Hillary's Husband Was Also a Winner

Posted January 19, 2008 | 11:18 PM (EST)



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What Hillary Clinton's victories in New Hampshire and Nevada have demonstrated beyond any doubt is that her husband has been a helpmate not a hindrance to her campaign. Despite media criticism that the former president was acting too angry or too petulant during his campaigning in both states for Hillary, what most Democratic (and independent) voters saw, in fact, was the passions of the most popular leader in the party articulating the reasons why his wife would be the best choice for the party's nominee over her most formidable challenger, Barack Obama. In New Hampshire, voters took seriously Bill Clinton's argument that Senator Obama's anti-Iraq war stance was a "fairy tale." They listened with equal intensity to him in Nevada when he criticized a caucus system that favored a union backing Obama and they as well resented the implication that Clinton's critique of that set-up disrespected Hispanics. In the end, Hispanics in Nevada went 3 to 1 for Hillary over Obama. Bill Clinton has proven his sterling silver value to the Hillary Clinton cause -- and undoubtedly his presence will have much the same impact in the remaining primaries.

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- newsweek1945 See Profile I'm a Fan of newsweek1945 permalink

Be careful, America, we are falling once again into the jingoistic crap that blinded us twice.We are attacking each other with very little reason, just "knee-jerk" reactions when we differ. If we are not careful, the "bush" will live and leave its evil legacy alive, throbbing, and well...Well to do more damage to us and the world!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:39 PM on 01/21/2008
- Janelynne See Profile I'm a Fan of Janelynne permalink

If you don't like that Hillary will have Bill's counsel in the White House, what do you think of Dick Cheney's iron fistedness, Bush Sr. bequeathing Rumsfeld, and Henry Kissinger's secret visits with GW? What do you think of the cabal that Bush has gathered that has brought nothing but ruin?

Every President has advisors, yet I will be most reassured that Bill will be there. BC balanced the budget, improved the American reputation, he passed legislation that benefitted the middle class.

As one Clinton supporter recently remarked:
"What did you dislike the most about the Clinton Presidency: the peace or the properity?"

Bill Clinton did more for Democrats, more for the poor, more for the middle class, than all the modern presidents before or since.

Hillary is a world class candidate, and she happens to be married to Bill Clinton.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:10 PM on 01/21/2008
- Kane See Profile I'm a Fan of Kane permalink

Winning. That is the crux of it. Winning. Peel the onion, and that is at the very core of the Clinton campaign. Winning. Although they might deny it, that's what this campaign is all about for the Clinton's. Winning. And that's what it's always about for the DLC. Winning. And to hear many of the Clinton supporters speak, that is at the heart of this campaign. Winning.

Winning. It's a bracing idea. The idea of winning at all costs. The idea of winning by any means necessary. Winning. Granted, one must win before anything can be achieved. However, when the entire substance of a campaign is all about winning, there's little room for vision or hope or unity or character or morality or dignity or anything else. Winning for the sake of winning. It is what inspired Karl Rove and George Bush above all other things. Winning.

This singular vision of winning is the sole inspiration for the Clinton's. This would explain why the Clinton campaign has changed its campaign slogan so often. Because it's never been about a consistent message of change or health care or a vision to move the country forward or to bring the troops home or having a conversation or experience or getting things done or anything else. Those are mere bumper stickers to achieve the ultimate goal. Winning.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:42 PM on 01/21/2008
- bobh See Profile I'm a Fan of bobh permalink

What I want Bill to do is attack the Republicans, and the news media, not fellow Dems.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:40 PM on 01/21/2008
- bettyjean See Profile I'm a Fan of bettyjean permalink

Some years ago my two year old grandson Shawn was diagnosed with leukemia.

My son Ed was stationed at the Elmendorf AFB in Alaska, when it was discovered that Shawn was in bad shape with leukemia. Shawn had to be transported to a Takoma, Washington Army Base Hospital for three months. Ed stayed at his bedside.

My pregnant daughter-in-law Carolyn stayed on at Elmendorf AFB with the oldest son.

Ed got orders to be transfered back to Lackland AFB in San Antonio, Texas (where they were stationed before being stationed at Elmendorf). Lackland AFB had the facilities to treat leukemia.

Andrews Air Force Base in Maryland was only two hours away from the Philadelphia and Jersey areas where the majority of the extended families lived. Although Andrews didn't have the facilities to treat leukemia, Walter Reed Army Hospital did, which was nearby Andrews.

My son, his wife and many, many professional people emailed petitions for the Air Force to change the orders from the Lackland AFB in Texas to the Andrews AFB in Maryland, to no avail. They were told the final answer was NO.

One evening I worked late and called the White House for the Clintons' fax number. I faxed a personal plea to Bill Clinton the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces and Hillary Clinton the good lawyer to please change the Air Force's final orders of NO to a YES for Ed's family to transfer to Andrews AFB.

It took a week or two and then the Pentagon called and told them the Texas orders would be overturned and that they would be transfered to Andrews AFB in Maryland near family instead of Lackland AFB in Texas.


I personally would vote for Hillary for president (with Bill as her helpmate) and for Obama as vice-president

or the other way around,

Obama for president and Hillary for vice-president (and Bill as her helpmate).

Respectfully,

Shawn's Grandmother

















    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:57 PM on 01/21/2008
- ibsteve2u See Profile I'm a Fan of ibsteve2u permalink

Interesting perspective...anti-union, pro-sterling silver. It reminds me of Pelosi's "If they were poor and they were sleeping on my sidewalk, they would be arrested for loitering, but because...".

They really need a new name for such quasi-Democrats...Repuborats?

I wonder how long it will be before someone from the Clinton camp - or one of their mouthpieces - says "Let them eat cake!"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 PM on 01/21/2008
- Walterba See Profile I'm a Fan of Walterba permalink

Bill Clinton can't win. What if WJC had gone off with Nelson Mandella or somemone else to work on one of his projects instead of campaigning for his wife? What would the TV bloviaters like Dim Russert and " Frothing at the Mouth " Mathews have to say? Remember that one of the analyses of Gore's defeat was that he shut out Bill Clinton from his campaign. Oh yes, Bush 41 did not campaign very much for his son, No. 43, we are told by the bloviators because 41 was upholding the dignity of the Presidency. On the contrary 41 knew what we were getting in "W" and did not want to have to carry any of the blame. But BO had better stop whining. A factual defense , if BO has one, would not be a bad idea. It is one of the signs of maturity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 PM on 01/21/2008
- ljsfolly See Profile I'm a Fan of ljsfolly permalink

Bill wants Hil to win as his ego is as big as the world and he sees it as an extension of him. Also he will say anything to get her into the house he feels should be his. Unfortunately too many people are voting for him. Even though the ballot says Hillary the people who remember the 90's fondly think she will be he once they get into the house. Not reality at all as she has been at the side of bush jr since he started war talk and she has given him damn near anything he has wanted without question. Would Bill have done the same? Bill had no 9/11 nor any war to fix nor was the economy so bad he was looking at total failure of wall street. Sure it was good and in the black but Hil ain't bill and I can only hope people wake up and see this. She also will be much more fickle than bill ever was. I see no good coming from yet another repeat. Bush sr was a goof but he made it through without major problems. Bush Jr has almost destroyed the whole country and made so many friends/allies enemies without a thought to how it would affect us. Bill made it through and might have been lucky that the economy waited to start down until bush jr got into office. I had thought the clinton haters would have been out in force by now but who knows. Stupid is as stupid does and these same people voted for bush....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 PM on 01/21/2008
- Bocababs See Profile I'm a Fan of Bocababs permalink

Bill Clinton has been a help to his wife's campaign. Bill Clinton is THE MAIN REASON I voted for Obama. I am sick and tired of divided politics in this country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 PM on 01/21/2008
- blankmw See Profile I'm a Fan of blankmw permalink

Wake Up! Many of the comments on all things Hillary at HuffPost are from either: 1) NeoCon Repugnantkins posing as Democrats; or, 2) young and oh so idealistic Democrats who are too young to even remember life before George W Bush.

The years of the Clinton presidency were marked by peace, prosperity, general trust in our government and being respected and even loved overseas. Yes, Bill Clinton had flaws. Yes, he lied about a blow job. Yes, he did the stupid "don't ask don't tell". But, being a gay man, I thought that was better than pretending that gay people in the military didn't even exist and providing NO protection at all to gay and lesbian people in the military.

And, yes, it is disgusting that Bill is making nice with Pappy Bush.

But, put things in perspective. Isn't lying about a blow job a little different than lying about the reasons to start a preemptive war that has killed and maimed hundreds of thousands of people, destroying our international reputation, denying poor and middle class children adequate health care, and destroying any trust conscious Americans have in their government?

Bill Clinton was a god compared to the pathetic looser Dubya that retarded ignoramuses voted for in the last 2 election cycles!!!!!

Hillary and Bill will be great in the White House again! I can't wait. And I hope you idiots that voted for Bush will remember your mistake every 4 years for the rest of your lives. You caused this invasion of Iraq. Yes, it was your fault, not Congress', not Big Bad Hillary, not Prescott Bush. It was YOUR fault for having voted for this clown OVER AND OVER! Don't ever forget it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 PM on 01/21/2008
- dsigeorge See Profile I'm a Fan of dsigeorge permalink

Gag me. Bill Clinton is grasping at all the dirty political straws he can to get himself back into our white house. His tactics will soon be recognized for what they are and he and his wife will ultimately be rejected by the majority of Americans.
It's a little past time for Barack to take off the gloves and hit back. He should not worry about NOW and the hard core female vote but should be hitting at Hillary-Bills records, their divisiveness, their inability to govern mainstream America and their unelectability. It's time to wake up to the damage the Clintons have done to the democratic party and to our nation. We can't afford any more of the Clintons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 AM on 01/21/2008
- RonC See Profile I'm a Fan of RonC permalink

I have been reading comments al over the web about this election. I have yet to see any Clinton supporters personally degrading Obama, yet there are literally thousands of comments calling both Clintons names, bad names. When did the campaign of hope morph into the campaign of hate? Do you people think that this type of thing will possibly get people to vote for Obama?
The Clintons were the object of a multi-million dollar rightwing witchhunt, and the only thing they discovered was that Bill got a blowjob. Bigass deal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 AM on 01/21/2008
- shelleybear See Profile I'm a Fan of shelleybear permalink

I'm quite sure Hilarity will win.
Over the weekend, I listened to "This American Life" and they told the story of "Baby Nubbin".
It was a doll that could not be sold due to factory defects.
It was joked about. Battered.
Almost drop kicked. But it was white.
But, when Christmas time came, and all the whgite asian and hispanic dolls had been sold, the only one left that as the proper color was (you guessed it) "Baby Nubbin".
So, ignoring all the black dolls in their cute little incubators, it was sold to an obnoxous white woman and her bratty child.
Yep, Hilarity Clintoon (or as I will now call her "Baby Nubbin").
Will, in fact be the next president of the U.S.
Not because she should be, but because, in a toy store full of black dolls, as damaged as she is, she is STILL White.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 AM on 01/21/2008
- EngineerBill See Profile I'm a Fan of EngineerBill permalink

Bill Clinton 1992 - Buy one get one free.
Hilary Clinton 2008 - Buy good cop get bad cop free.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 AM on 01/21/2008
- wrabbitt See Profile I'm a Fan of wrabbitt permalink

The Clintons know how to manipulate the system. The losers in these pre elections rituals are the people! With the Clintons,gaining that means my vote in Novembers election will be against them, not for someone else! If people want four more years of stagnation in congress, and more lobbyists controlling the senate re-elect the same senators/congressmen. Health care will be put to rest if HRC gets elected, i can't afford it now, if she tells me i have to have it i still won't be able to afford 900$ a month! We don't need her! we need real change! If elected she will be unable to get anything thru deadlocked, antiquated,congress controlled by entrenched,senile,earmark mongers who are only looking out for their own interests! HELP, we need a direction, and no, down is not a direction!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 AM on 01/21/2008
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