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Steve Clemons

Posted: July 6, 2010 08:00 AM

Aspen Ideas Festival: Ferguson, Gergen & Zuckerman Fear-monger on Deficits

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The opening forum at the political celebrity and policy wonk packed Aspen Ideas Festival which opened yesterday was titled "The Financial Crisis: Will It Lead to America's Decline?" and featured historian Niall Ferguson, US News & World Report owner and real estate mogul Mort Zuckerman, and presidential adviser David Gergen.

The discussion was interesting on a number of fronts -- mostly because Zuckerman, who is normally someone who has been making a strong case for more substantial infrastructure investment in the US (and to his credit, he did raise this in this session) and Ferguson decided to use their time in the Aspen sun to fear-monger about deficits and fiscal responsibility.

Ferguson argues that fiscal reform and austerity are the path America must take to reinvent itself, if it can. Zuckerman too hammered on the big spending of recent years, particularly the ineffectiveness of the stimulus when it came to infrastructure and job creation.

I agree with Ferguson that America's spending on two power-sapping wars is one of the major drivers of America's political and economic weakness today, but his policy prescriptions could move America right back where it was in 1937 -- when the US cut back its economic stimulus during the Depression thus deepening and lengthening America's economic mess then.

Gergen didn't call on me -- though you'll see me continue to put my hand up in the video above. But if he had, I would have asked "1937??"

Even center-right economists Kenneth Rogoff and Carmen Reinhardt, both fiscal conservatives, fear that the US should not cut back spending too much at the moment.

As Niall Ferguson was racing out -- mouthing from the stage to Pom and Fiji Water entrepreneur Lynda Resnick that he just couldn't do dinner with her and Barbra Streisand that night -- to get to London to give a talk at St. Paul's Cathedral titled "'Men, Money and Morality: How Can Trust in Banking Be Restored", I asked him whether he had any concern about a 1937 redux.

He responded by emphasizing that he wouldn't make "near term cuts." Fair enough.

But that point needs a lot more punctuation and Fergusonesque emphasis at a forum like this where many need to hear about what the consequences of a collapse in demand are for American workers and the American middle class.

If the government doesn't create that demand when private households are deleveraging, firms are holding back investment, and Europe is posturing itself as a global deflationary ball and chain around global growth, then America is heading back into recession.

That should have been a view represented more squarely -- and debated -- at the Aspen Ideas Festival.

I should add that this ideas festival is an amazing experience -- eclectic participants, high quality debate and discussion. I'll be speaking on the "soft power" panel this morning along with Harvard scholar Joseph Nye and former US AID Administrator Henrietta Fore.

-- Steve Clemons publishes the popular political blog, The Washington Note. Clemons can be followed on Twitter @SCClemons

 

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09:12 PM on 07/12/2010
First the economist, then the historian. And both have to do with military policies.
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SamEllison
I feel so clean!
10:29 PM on 07/07/2010
Who do you listen to about the economy,
a Harvard historian or a Nobel Prize winning
economist from Princeton?
To me it's a no brainer.
12:53 PM on 07/06/2010
It seems like discussion­s at this level should be covering the subject of how we create and employ global institutio­ns to achieve systematic relief of global poverty.

But that may be too much to ask from exactly the segment of world population that has the most to gain at the personal level from seeing the inequities continue.

On the other hand, one can also be plenty disappoint­ed that they seem more than content to debase the quality of life even in the developed world solely for purposes of fostering personal gain.

Maybe we need to have special taxes on participan­ts at Aspen, TED, Jackson Hole, Sun Vallry, etc. that can be used for deficit reduction. Even if we only talked everyone out of attending, to avoid payment for their privileges­, at least we wouldn't have the power elite systematic­ally and frequently holding huge brain storming sessions to conspire against the welfare of everyone but themselves­.
12:09 PM on 07/06/2010
welcome to keynesian fantasy land. The failure of their ideas is only proof we need to try again.
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Ishmael1
Step aside, Shallow Water, & Let the Deep Sea Roll
11:22 AM on 07/06/2010
Sounds to me like the Aspen Ideas Festival is fresh Out of Ideas to me. Some of the questions I'd have liked to ask had I the dinero to attend.

Is US Imperialis­m necessaril­y a good thing?

Why do we NEED troops in 75 countries across the globe?

What's wrong with restoring the tax rates on the top 1% to 1950's levels?

Is the paradigm of constant growth a solution or a recipe for disaster?

How does the Power Elite plan to deal with climate change, resource exhaustion and environmen­tal degradatio­n?
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thinkagain2
02:43 PM on 07/06/2010
"What's wrong with restoring the tax rates on the top 1% to 1950's levels?"

hmmm. now aren't these the folks screaming loudest about deficits? Pony up for a couple of years, rich boys.