Mike Huckabee: Everyone's First Choice for VP on the GOP Ticket

Posted January 25, 2008 | 09:17 AM (EST)



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There's a story that would be less disturbing if not true that George H.W. Bush asked a number of close advisers to send him their lists of who should be on his ticket as VP. Dan Quayle -- for whom Bill Kristol was chief of staff -- was No. 2 on most of these lists.

If Romney or McCain or Giuliani were to win the GOP nomination, the name that would come in first on most of those lists is Mike Huckabee. Some in the Republican camp are pushing Chuck Hagel as a partner for Romney if he wins the nod -- and I actually think that would be an excellent pairing, but most odds makers would favor Huckabee.

And as Krauthammer writes today:

Mike Huckabee is not going to be president. The loss in South Carolina, one of the most highly evangelical states in the union, made that plain. With a ceiling of 14 percent among nonevangelical Republicans, Huckabee's base is simply too narrow.

But his was not a rise and then a fall. He came from nowhere to establish himself as the voice of an important national constituency. Huckabee will continue to matter, and might even carry enough remaining Southern states to wield considerable influence at a fractured Republican convention.

Huckabee as a pre-9/11, pre-Cheney VP would not be that worrisome to me, but the nature and powers of the Vice Presidency have changed and thus the decision about who holds that power matters more than it ever did before in American history.

There is much about Huckabee that makes me feel uncomfortable. I'm not into faith-based politics.

That said, there's a pragmatic current running in him that few -- including me -- have paid much attention to, and perhaps that needs to be revisited.

Huckabee is getting counsel from people like JIm Pinkerton and Richard Haass, President of the Council on Foreign Relations. But Frank Gaffney, one of the co-governors of American neoconservatism, is also an adviser.

I should point out that while Huckabee has stated that he consults with Richard Haass -- I have not heard Richard Haass, who is a friend, publicly state that he endorses Huckabee. Haass is President of the Council on Foreign Relations, a non-partisan non-profit organization, and could easily be offering his expertise to any or all of the candidates on an egalitarian basis much like my New America Foundation colleagues and I try and do. But still, I hope that people like Haass have some real impact on Governor Huckabee. I have also not heard from Frank Gaffney that he has endorsed Huckabee. (Update: Just saw this -- so Frank Gaffney, like John Bolton may be off the list.)

The challenge this creates for people who care about smart national security and foreign policy decision-making is whether to simply rail at those who have features in their profile we don't like -- or alternatively, to see the candidates as franchises, or as schizophrenic enterprises, with some personalities around the candidate in the dominant position and others subordinate.

George W. Bush has always had realists around him, but they were subordinate and buried beneath the dominance of neoconservatives and pugnacious nationalists for much of his tenure.

If Huckabee increasingly looks like he has a lock on the Vice Presidency -- which is the way things are looking to me at this early stage -- then many will have to work to fix the realists in a dominant position around him and to curb the influence of international messianic crusaders who will also be part of the Huckabee mix.

-- Steve Clemons publishes the popular political blog, The Washington Note

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- KenoshaMarge See Profile I'm a Fan of KenoshaMarge

Maybe the Republicans just want to have a vice-president as dumb as Dan Quayle so that the country can was the taste of evil Dick Cheney out of their mouths. It is apparent that Huckabee is as capable of sticking his foot in his mouth as Dan Quayle ever was. And it would be a kindness to retire poor Dan Quayle as the perpetual winner of the "Dumbest Vice President Ever" spot in history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Quayle

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 AM on 01/26/2008
- GhostOfSchlesinger See Profile I'm a Fan of GhostOfSchlesinger

Religion is another "wedge issue" that "conservatives" have wielded with all the sophistication of a four year-old running about a daycare with a rusty hacksaw. But it's worked and that's our fault. For, while we fell silent whenever they said "God," they cut deeply and repeatedly into the American body politic, and in so doing managed to do real harm to both our political and religious institutions - an ominous outcome and one of which a nobler generation would've been ashamed.

Not long ago, some of our best and brightest intellectuals sought Doctors of Divinity, studying under generations of religious scholars that defined a Social Gospel agenda that placed Christianity in its right context - one of activism on behalf of "the least of these." Inherited by leaders like Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., the legacy of the Social Gospel, a distillation of the democratic and spiritual principles that underlay everything from the abolition of slavery to child labor laws, helped to "redeem the soul of America."

In the early 1980's a group of conservative ministers met to define and formulate a plan of action that called for an overturning of the Christianity that had inspired generations of reformers. This meeting, documented on the PBS series, Frontline, laid the foundations for a sea change that has redefined our national identity in a manner inconsistent with both Christianity AND the intent of our founders.

In short, the counter-revolutionary preachers sought to re-define Christian theology in a far right wing context. They removed pastors and seminary professors that disagreed with their politics in an ideological cleansing that still echoes from pulpits around the world. They sought to pack school boards with fundamentalist apparatchiks, a strategy that has forced a near-constant replay of the "Scopes Monkey Trial." With a majority of pastors politicized in a manner favorable to their intent, they leveraged the pulpit to elect candidates vetted by the Moral Majority, the Christian Coalition, and the American Family Association.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:15 AM on 01/26/2008
- Jacksonfromtejas See Profile I'm a Fan of Jacksonfromtejas

Steve Clemons writes approvingly of the "pragmatic current running" in Mike Huckabee and says that if the Huckster is to be VP, then "many will have to work to fix the realists in a dominant position around him and to curb the influence of international messianic crusaders who will also be part of the Huckabee mix."

Curb the messianic influence? Steve, Huck's an evangelical Baptist preacher. Have the drugs kicked in, or is it just too many years inside the D.C. beltway?

The Republican base has now sunk into the religious conservative southern part of the U.S. We saw that in the 2006 midterms. Liberal/moderate Republicans lost in the northeast, in Virginia, in states up and down the Mississippi, and westward.

The l'affair Schiavo from 2005 wasn't an anomaly. The circus surrounding her death, the attempt to inject the government into that private family matter, was the result of a political party wedded to "messianic crusades." Former Senator John Danforth, Republican and ordained Episcopal priest, writes cogently about what has happened to his political party in the recent book "Faith and Politics," and it ain't that pretty at all (as the late Warren Zevon put it.)

Don't be fooled by Huckabee's populist rhetoric, his tales of single mothers trying to get by. George W. also ran on compassionate conservatism. He was the guy the beltway boys said we wanted to have a beer with....just as Huckabee today cribs the same notion when he says "I want to remind you of the guy you work beside, not the guy who laid you off."

Don't be fooled by a pleasant demeanor, clever lines in stump speeches. Huck's a loon. A likable loon, à la Gomer Pyle, but a loon who thinks Armageddon may have started, denies evolution, wants biblical creation taught in schools, thinks wives should submit to husbands in decision-making....I could go on.

Any attempt to thoughtfully address Huck's good points is an attempt that denies his broader beliefs.

We don't need more of that...not in a complicated 21st century!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 AM on 01/26/2008
- boaz16 See Profile I'm a Fan of boaz16

McCain attracts moderates and independents. Huckabee can bring hard core Christians out en masse and rally the Republican base. For Democrats, this is the ticket we need to worry about most.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 PM on 01/25/2008
- normathumb See Profile I'm a Fan of normathumb

I am always amused when people say they, (whoever) don't have experiance. In the last forty years the only two presidents with any appreciable foreign policy experiance were Nixon and Bush senior. W and his gang gloated in their ignorence. "We don't do nuance", they famously proclaimed and we can see the result. We are hated more then ever and even our oldest closest allies don't trust us. These were the guys who ran in 2000 screaming Clinton had been too adventurist in foreign affairs. These were the guys who said we shouldn't/couldn't engage in nation building. These were the guys who said Iraq would take "months not years" but now say we should think in terms of a Korean type engagement, (approaching 60 years). Bush had no experiance and we were to take comfort he had old hands like Cheney and Rumsfeld to guide him. And they did, into the ignominy of being one of the most stupid men to ever hold that office. No one ever said Nixon was stupid, not even his worst detractors. Whether or not W is as stupid as apparently so will always be the hallmark of discussion down through the years. The Buckleys and Wills and others of the Right intelligentsia must be absolutely mortified. All their years of crafting a movement co-opted by a gang of churlish middlebrow beaureaucrats leading an otherwise empty cipher who doesn't even ubderstand half the words they tell him to say. I would love to have watched their expressions when they heard him say he had read some "Shakespeare's".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 PM on 01/25/2008
- DietrichMoody See Profile I'm a Fan of DietrichMoody

I wouldn't be surprised if the persuaded Condoleeza Rice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:30 PM on 01/25/2008
- isis See Profile I'm a Fan of isis

He can have the squirrels but hide your dogs!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 PM on 01/25/2008
- OSUMercutio See Profile I'm a Fan of OSUMercutio

With a Democratic congress, I think it's much more likely Huckabee will get the Fair Tax passed rather than social reforms. So I'd vote for him over Hillary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:39 PM on 01/25/2008
- NicoleAnonymous See Profile I'm a Fan of NicoleAnonymous

Did he really cook squirrels in a popcorn machine?

I don't even know what to think about that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:23 PM on 01/25/2008
- Crowhaul See Profile I'm a Fan of Crowhaul




Beautiful. And maybe Chuck Norris can take over Condi's job as Sect. of State.


    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 PM on 01/25/2008
- EngineerBill See Profile I'm a Fan of EngineerBill

Steve your post is clear, reasonable, logical and wrong. Look, whatever the republicans are they are not stupid. I am sure that McCain would kindly explain to the Gov. that in the general election Huck at the VP post would hurt rather than help. That is why I believe he will be the H&HS secretary in the McCain administration. I also think that McCain will choose Joe Lieberman to be his running mate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 PM on 01/25/2008
- KarenZipdrive See Profile I'm a Fan of KarenZipdrive

Huckabee for VP?
You've got to be kidding.
America needs to weed out the evangelicals in top political spots.
Eight years of evangelical Bush taught us everything we need to know about born-agains.
We dont need another Southern Jesus Freak hick in power.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:56 PM on 01/25/2008
- Jazzylady26 See Profile I'm a Fan of Jazzylady26

why would anyone want Murder By Proxy Mike for vp or worse yet, president? this is a man without conscience, judgment, or compassion of any kind. he also lacks experience of kind, especially as concerns foreign policy, for holding such an office. I fail to understand why anyone would seriously consider this man for street sweeper.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 PM on 01/25/2008
- cynical1 See Profile I'm a Fan of cynical1

The Huckster would be a great choice - for the Democrats. Any presidential election is going to be won by getting the indepedent vote. Huckee won't help in getting that, in fact, he would probably scare them off.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 PM on 01/25/2008
- blooddoc See Profile I'm a Fan of blooddoc

Yet another good reason (possibly the best) not to vote for a Republican for president.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 AM on 01/25/2008
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