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History's Mad Hatters: The Strange Career of Tea Party Populism

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Crossposted with TomDispatch.com.

On a winter’s day in Boston in 1773, a rally of thousands at Faneuil Hall to protest a new British colonial tax levied on tea turned into an iconic moment in the pre-history of the American Revolution.  Some of the demonstrators -- Sons of Liberty, they called themselves -- left the hall and boarded the Dartmouth, a ship carrying tea, and dumped it overboard. 

One of the oddest features of the Boston Tea Party, from which our current crop of Tea Party populists draw their inspiration, is that a number of those long-ago guerilla activists dressed up as Mohawk Indians, venting their anger by emitting Indian war cries, and carrying tomahawks to slice open the bags of tea.  This masquerade captured a fundamental ambivalence that has characterized populist risings ever since.  After all, if in late eighteenth century America, the Indian already functioned as a symbol of an oppressed people and so proved suitable for use by others who felt themselves put upon, it was also the case that the ancestors of those Boston patriots had managed to exterminate a goodly portion of the region’s Native American population in pursuit of their own self-aggrandizement. 

Today’s Tea Party movement, like so many of its “populist” predecessors, is a house of contradiction, a bewildering network of crosscutting political emotions, ideas, and institutions.  What connects it powerfully to a populist past stretching all the way back to Boston Harbor is, however, a sense of violation: “Don’t Tread on Me.”  

Despite a recurring resistance to the impositions of powerful outside forces -- anti-elitism has been axiomatic for all such insurgencies -- populist movements have differed greatly on just what those forces were and what needed to be done to free people from their yoke.  It’s worth noting, for instance, that an earlier invocation of the Boston Tea Party took place at a 1973 rally on a replica of the Dartmouth -- a rally called to promote the impeachment of President Richard Nixon.

From the Know-Nothings to the People’s Party

Over the course of American history, the populist instinct, now resurgent in the Tea Party movement, has oscillated between a desire to transform, and so create a new order of things, and a desire to restore a yearned-for (or imagined) old order. 

Before the Civil War, one such movement that caught both these urges was colloquially dubbed the “Know-Nothings” (not for any anti-intellectualism, but because its members deliberately conducted much of their business in secret -- hence, if questioned, were instructed to say, “I know nothing”).  Know-nothing-ism exuded the desire to move forward and backward at the same time.  During the 1840s and 1850s, it swept across much of the country, North and South.  There were “know-nothing” candies, “know-nothing” toothpicks, and “know-nothing” stagecoaches. 

Soon enough, the movement evolved into a national political party, the American Party, that appealed to small farmers, small businessmen, and working people.  Its attraction was two-fold.  The party vociferously opposed Irish and German Catholic immigration to the U.S. (as well as that of Chinese and Chilean immigrants working in the gold fields of California).  Yet, in the North, it also denounced slavery.  As planks in a political program, nativism and anti-slavery might seem like an odd couple, but in the minds of the party’s followers they were joined at the hip.  As Know-Nothings saw it, the Papacy and the South’s slave-owning planter elite were both conspiring to undermine a democratic society of masterless men.

Keep in mind that conspiratorial thinking has long been deeply embedded in American populist movements (as in the Tea Party today).  In nineteenth century protestant America, alleged plots by Vatican hierarchs were a recurrent feature of political life.  In the North, a wave of crime and the rise of “poor relief” and other forms of dependency -- including wage labor, which accompanied the arrival of a flood of impoverished Catholic immigrants -- seemed to threaten an American promise of a society of free, equal, and self-reliant individuals (supposedly so noxious to the priestly elite of the Catholic Church).  In the slave South, where the master class was believed to be hard at work subverting the Constitution, conspiratorial machinations were self-evidently afoot.  By the mid-1850s, most “Know-Nothings” in the North had found their way into the newborn Republican Party which combined hostility to slavery with a milder form of anti-Catholicism.

Populism with a capital “P,” the great economic and political insurgency of the last third of the nineteenth century that blanketed rural America from the cotton South to the grain-growing Great Plains and the Rocky Mountain West, would bear its own distinctive ambivalence.  The People’s Party indicted corporate and finance capitalism for destroying the livelihoods and lives of independent farmers and handicraftsmen.  It also attacked big business for subverting the foundations of democracy by capturing all three branches of government and transforming them into coercive instruments of rule by a new plutocracy.  Populists sometimes attributed what they termed an American “counterrevolution” to the conspiratorial plots of the “great Devil Fish of Wall Street,” suspected of colluding with Great Britain’s elite to undo the American Revolution.

The remedies proposed, however, were hardly those of Luddites.  These instead anticipated many of the fundamental reforms of the next century, including government subsidies for farmers, the graduated income tax, direct election of the Senate, the eight-hour day, and even the public ownership of railroads and public utilities.  A tragic movement of the dispossessed, the Populists yearned to restore a society of independent producers, a world without a proletariat and without corporate trusts.  Yet they also envisioned something new and transformative, a “cooperative commonwealth” that would escape the barbaric competitiveness and exploitation of free market capitalism. 

The Great Plains of Resentment

For the next four decades, populism remained emphatically against corporate capitalism and held on tightly to its resentment of powerful outsiders as well as a penchant for conspiracy mongering.  During the 1930s, however, the location of Conspiracy Central began to shift from Wall Street and the City of London to Moscow -- and even New Deal Washington.  Anti-communism added a new ingredient to an already roiling American politics of fear and paranoia, a toxic element which still inflames the Tea Party imagination two decades after the Berlin Wall was torn down.

During the 1936 presidential campaign, in the midst of the Great Depression, three populist movements -- Louisiana Senator Huey Long’s “Share Our Wealth” clubs, the Union for Social Justice formed by the charismatic “radio priest” Father Charles E. Coughlin, and Francis Townsend’s campaign for government pensions for the elderly -- coalesced, albeit briefly and uneasily, to form the Union Party.  It ran from the left against President Franklin Roosevelt, nominating as its presidential candidate North Dakota Congressman William Lemke, a one-time spokesman for radical farmers. (The vice-presidential candidate was a labor lawyer from Boston.) 

The Union Party expressed a broad dissatisfaction with the failure of Roosevelt’s New Deal to relieve economic distress and injustice.  Senator Long, the latest in a long line of Southern populist demagogues, had been decrying the power of land barons, “moneycrats,” and big oil since his days as Louisiana’s governor.  His “Share Our Wealth” plan called for pensions and public education for all, as well as confiscatory taxes on incomes over $1 million, a minimum wage, and public works projects to give jobs to the unemployed.  Townsend’s scheme was designed to solve unemployment and the penury of old age by offering monthly government pensions of $200, financed by taxes on business, to everyone over the age of 60.  Coughlin, an early supporter of Roosevelt, trained his fire on finance capitalism, inveighing against its usurious, unchristian “parasitism.”

But Long and especially Coughlin were at pains to distinguish their form of radicalism from the collectivism and atheism of the Red menace.  Father Coughlin expressed support for labor unions and a just wage.  He was, however, an inveterate foe of the left-leaning United Automobile Workers union, and roundly condemned the sit-down strikes which spread like a prairie fire following Roosevelt’s triumphal landslide victory in the 1936 presidential election, as workers across the country occupied everything from auto plants to department stores demanding union recognition. 

Indeed, in his radio addresses and his newspaper, Social Justice, the priest ranted about an incongruous conspiracy of Bolsheviks and bankers whose aim was to betray America.  He would eventually add a tincture of anti-Semitism to his warnings about a Wall Street cabal.  His growing sympathy for Nazism was not so shocking.  Fascism, after all, had its roots in a European version of populism that conveyed a post-World War I disgust with the selfishness and incompetence of cosmopolitan ruling elites, a virulent racial nationalism, and a hatred of bankers and especially Bolsheviks.    

Followers of Long and Coughlin loathed big business and big government, even though big government -- back then anyway -- was taking on big business.  For them, “Don’t Tread on Me” meant a defense of local economies, traditional moral codes, and established ways of life that seemed increasingly endangered by national corporations as well as the state bureaucracies that began to proliferate under the New Deal.  Union Party campaign oratory was filled with references to the “forgotten man,” an image first invoked by Roosevelt on behalf of the working poor. 

In the years ahead, kindred images would resurface during a time of turmoil in the late 1960s in Nixon’s appeals to the “silent majority” of “Middle America,” and more recently in the Tea Party’s wounded sense of exclusion.  “Forgotten man” populism conveyed the irate politics of resentment of precariously positioned Americans against the organized power blocs of modern industrial society: Big Business, Big Labor, and Big Government.

Race, Resentment, and the Rise of Conservative Populism

Over the last half century populism has drifted steadily rightward, becoming ever more restorationist and ever less transformative, ever more anti-collectivist and ever less anti-capitalist.  What were subordinate themes in the older style populism -- religious orthodoxy, national chauvinism, phobic racism, and the politics of fear and paranoia -- have come to the fore in our time.  At least in broad terms, both the Barry Goldwater and the George Wallace insurgencies of the 1960s displayed this trajectory.

Goldwater, the Arizona senator and 1964 Republican candidate for president, an “insurgent”?  Yes, if you keep in mind his condemnation of the too-liberal elite running the Republican Party, who, in his eyes, represented a clubby world of Ivy League bankers, corrupt politicians, media lords, and “one-worlders.”  Or consider the way he flirted with the freakish John Birch Society (which called President Dwight Eisenhower a “dedicated, conscious agent of the Communist Party” and warned of a Red plot to weaken the minds of Americans by fluoridating the water supply).  Or the Senator’s alarming readiness to threaten to push the nuclear button in defense of “freedom,” which could be thought of as the Cold War version of “Don’t Tread on Me.” 

Above all, Goldwater was the avatar of today’s politics of limited government.  In his opposition to civil rights legislation, he might be called the original “tenther” -- that is, a serial quoter of the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution, which reserves for the states all powers not expressly granted to the Federal government, with which he justified hamstringing all efforts by Washington to rectify social or economic injustice. For Goldwater the outlawing of Jim Crow was an infringement of constitutionally protected states’ rights.  Moreover, he was an inveterate enemy of all forms of collectivism, including of course unions and the welfare state.

As the Goldwater opposition sank its grassroots into the lush soil of the Sunbelt, its desire to restore an older order of things was palpable.  At a time when New Deal liberalism was the reigning orthodoxy, the senator’s reactionary impulses seemed startlingly adrift from the mainstream, and so strange indeed.  

Goldwater's rebellious constituents were an oddly positioned band of rebels.  Unlike the declining middling sorts attracted to the Union Party, they came mainly from a rising Sunbelt stratum, a new middle class significantly nourished by the mushrooming military-industrial complex: technicians and engineers, real-estate developers, middle managers, and mid-level entrepreneurs who resented the intrusion of Big Government while in fact being remarkably dependent on it. 

They could be described as reactionary modernists for whom liberalism had become the new communism.  How shocking when this Arizona “maverick” -- he deserved the label far more than John McCain ever did (if he ever did) -- won the Republican nomination in a knock-down brawl with the presidium, led by New York Governor Nelson Rockefeller, that had run the party until then.  Might the Tea Party accomplish something similar today? 

Think of Alabama Governor George Wallace as the other missing link between the economic populism of yesteryear and the cultural populism of the late twentieth century.  He was all at once an anti-elitist, a populist, a racist, a chauvinist, and a tribune of the politics of revenge and resentment.  “Segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever”: a line spoken at his inauguration as governor in 1963 that would be his signature defiance of the civil rights revolution and its alliance with the federal government.  In no uncertain terms, it signaled the militant racism of his bed-rock supporters.

His appeal, however, ran far deeper than that.  The whole tenor of his politicking involved a down-home defense of blue-collar America.  Like Huey Long, he was sensitive to the economic predicament of his lower-class constituents.  As governor he favored expanded state spending on education and public health, pay raises for school teachers, and free textbooks.  When he ran for president as a third party candidate in 1968, he called for increases in social security and Medicare.  As late as 1972, Wallace increased retirement pensions and unemployment compensation in Alabama.

Yet he championed the hard-hat American heartland by hailing its ethos of hard work and what today would be known as “family values” far more than by proposing concrete measures to assure its economic well-being.  Wallace railed against the know-it-all arrogance of “pointy-headed” Washington bureaucrats, the indolence of “welfare queens,” and the impiety, moral decadence, and disloyalty of privileged long-haired, pot-smoking, anti-war college students. 

Bellicose calls for law and order, states' rights, and a muscular patriotism fueled the revanchist emotions that made Wallace into more than a regional figure.  When he ran in the Democratic primaries in 1964 (with the support of the John Birch Society and the White Citizens Council), he won significant numbers of votes not only in the Deep South, but in states like Indiana, Wisconsin, and Maryland, a sign of the Southernization of American politics at a time when the spread of NASCAR, country music, and the blues were Southernizing its culture as well.

Wallace’s venture into third-party politics (on the predictably named American Independent Party ticket) terrified the Democrats, who feared the loss of part of their blue-collar base.  He called Vice President Hubert Humphrey, then running for president against Richard Nixon, as well as Northern liberals generally, a “group of god-damned, mealy-mouthed sissy-britches” -- shades of Senator Joe McCarthy and the 1950s -- and he promised to take the gloves off, if elected, and bomb North Vietnam back to the Stone Age. 

Wallace’s popularity revealed a possibility to Nixon and the Republicans denied them since the end of Reconstruction: that, on the road to an Electoral College victory, they might begin to develop a “southern strategy.”  In the meantime, his populist cry that there “was not a dime’s worth of difference between the Democratic and Republican parties” won him 10 million votes, 13.5% of the total and 46 votes in the Electoral College.  And remember this: a crowd of 20,000 attended a Wallace rally in 1968 at a sold-out Madison Square Garden in New York City.

Don’t Tread on My Taxes

So what does this episodic and checkered history of American populism have to do with the Tea Party?

As a start, the Tea Party movement reminds us that the moral self-righteousness, sense of dispossession, anti-elitism, revanchist patriotism, racial purity, and “Don’t Tread on Me” militancy that were always at least a part of the populist admixture are alive and well.  For all the fantastical paranoia that often accompanies such emotional stances, they speak to real experiences -- for some, of economic anxiety, insecurity, and loss; for others, of deeper fears of personal, cultural, political, or even national decline and moral disorientation. 

Though such fears and feelings are, in part, legacies of the corporate liberal order -- one of the dark sides of “progress” under capitalism -- in this new populist moment, anti-capitalism itself barely lingers on.  Though outrage at the bank bailout did help propel the Tea Party explosion, anti-big-business sentiment is now a pale shadow of its former self, a muted sub-theme in the movement when compared to the Wallace moment, not to mention those of Huey Long or the Populists. 

This is hardly surprising since, at least economically, capitalism has, according to recent surveys of Tea Party membership, served many of them reasonably well.  Like Goldwater supporters of the 1960s, those who identify with the Tea Party movement are generally wealthier than the population as a whole, and more likely to be employed.  They are also apparently better educated, so their fondness for Sarah Palin’s intellectual debilities may be more a case of resentment of bicoastal cultural snobbery than eye-popping ignorance.  

Alongside an exalted rhetoric about threats to liberty lies a sour, narrow-minded defensiveness against any possible threat of income redistribution that might creep into the body politic… and so into their pockets.  “Don’t Tread on Me,” once a rebel war cry, has morphed into: “I’ve got mine.  Don’t dare tax it.”  The state, not the corporation, is now the enemy of choice.    

Tea Party populism should also be thought of as a kind of identity politics of the right.  Almost entirely white, and disproportionately male and older, Tea Party advocates express a visceral anger at the cultural and, to some extent, political eclipse of an America in which people who looked and thought like them were dominant (an echo, in its own way, of the anguish of the Know-Nothings).  A black President, a female Speaker of the House, and a gay head of the House Financial Services Committee are evidently almost too much to bear.  Though the anti-immigration and Tea Party movements so far have remained largely distinct (even if with growing ties), they share an emotional grammar: the fear of displacement.

But identity politics aside, Tea Party anger reaches far beyond the ranks of the modest Tea Party movement.  It resonates with other Americans who understandably feel that political and economic elites, serving themselves at the expense of everyone else, have failed Americans.  The big question is just exactly how (or even if) that private and personal rage gets transformed into moral and political outrage.  If the heirs of George Wallace and Barry Goldwater, or the Sarah Palins of today, have their way, the outcome won’t be a tea party. 

Steve Fraser is editor-at large of New Labor Forum, co-founder of the American Empire Project, a writer, TomDispatch contributor, and an historian.  His latest book is Wall Street: America’s Dream Palace.

Joshua B. Freeman teaches history at the City University of New York.  He is currently completing a history of the United States since World War II as part of the Penguin History of the U.S.

This piece is an adaptation of an article that will be published in the Fall 2010 issue of the magazine New Labor Forum.

Copyright 2010 Steve Fraser and Joshua B. Freeman 

 
 
 
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awake108
09:34 AM on 05/04/2010
The tea party blames everyone except themselves. They voted repub and saw the mess george made saw the crash that was caused by conservative philosophy of reagan. I don't see them placing the blame where it belong. They were duped and they are still being duped.Our government doesn't work because of their poor choices in who they have elected. They should get out of politics and let the rest of us try and fix the mess.
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goatboyslim
It's a good day to die,but I prefer to wait
01:10 AM on 05/04/2010
Actually, the first Boston Tea Party was in protest of a tax decrease. King George lowered the tax rate on the East India tea company so that they could compete with the smugglers, who of course paid no tax at all. This included John Adams, who lost a ship that ran aground (the "Liberty") while being pursued by the British Navy.
12:23 AM on 05/04/2010
I just started reading the Huffington Post and this is one of the best articles I've read so far.
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smarti
We're all mad here..
09:07 PM on 05/03/2010
But I have no doubt that in a pinch, these folks will be pulling the R levers in the next elections, unless they manage to pull a Perot and run "Tea Party" candidates against the R's and split the vote, in which case this can be a good thing for the Dem's. My guess is the R's will run hard to the right (check out McCain and his "non-mavericky" stances lately, along with Palin the Tea Queen stumping for him) in order to co-opt the Tea Party vote, because they as well see the writing on the wall. However, they may find themselves in a bind, because despite the Tea Party self perception as themselves as the "silent majority", they are not, and the hard right stances will scare off the moderate, "real" independents that actually can and do swing between Dems and Repubs given the issues and current environment.
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smarti
We're all mad here..
09:06 PM on 05/03/2010
I kinda wonder at labeling the Tea Party as some "new" Populist movement. To me, they seem to make up the right wing conservative base of the Republican Party, aka the 20%'s that still rated Georg W Bush's presidency as high performing at the end of his term, and are also made up of the same crowds that turned out for Palin rallies during the election. They are upset that they lost the last several elections and blame it on the so-called "RINO's" in the Republican party who they perceive as failing the conservative platforms, so to distance themselves from the Republican brand they re-grouped under the "Tea Party" banner. and are trying to pass themselves off as some new demographic of independent voters.
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Freesia2
I'm nicer than I appear in print. :-)
09:48 AM on 05/04/2010
They aren't a movement. This is Dick Armey and Freedomworks helped along by Fox. They registered a website for a Tea Party before there was a Tea Partier to even click on the site. It's astroturf. A prefab way for grouping of the same old crowd.

The Republicans needed to energize their base and they knew that what would do it. Tapping into their racist rage at having a black President. Enter Palin - she ran for Vice President by race baiting. She became their queen.

This is the same white evangelical, gun totin' base that the GOP have been using for the past 4 decades. This is just the lastest version of the Southern Strategy.
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missouriwatcher
military veteran, veteran teacher, father, grandpa
01:23 PM on 05/04/2010
Hi, Freesia. What tickles me pink about this "movement" is that the GOP cronies created it, but cannot control it. Teapartiers will take away GOP votes; the Dems will not be affected much since these hangin-off-the-far-edge-rightwingers never voted Dem (at least not since the days of the Dixiecrats).
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smarti
We're all mad here..
09:22 PM on 05/04/2010
Exactly! They are the Palin voters trying to run away from the Repub brand that lost so badly in the last 2 elections. Yet the media wants to portray them as some new-found demographic group.. I say look at the demographics themselves: older, white, and lean more conservative than the rest of the nation aka the Republican base!
09:53 AM on 05/04/2010
I wouldn't characterize the Tea Party as a populist movement. It seems too contrived. Now that corporations can contribute unlimited funds to the Repuppets, the teabaggers are unnecessary.
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edgarcaycedoc
08:38 PM on 05/03/2010
The T-B@ggers are not supportive of freedom of speech unless it is their own. When someone speaks out to disagree with them, they ridicule them and shout them down. One woman was talking about HCR and the recent death of her husband, as she supported HCR. They booed her, and when she began to cry, they ridiculed her. Likewise the Parkinson's victim was ridiculed and treated abusively by these modern day "patriots." They may have their points, but they are NOT very nice people.
01:57 AM on 05/04/2010
The Left is equally guilty of not supporting free speech except their own.
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06:10 PM on 05/03/2010
I agree with much of this article. Much I do not. When and if anyone has the time of inclination try and access the book written by Carol Quigley, "Tragedy and Hope". It give a clearer picture of not only historical twists and turn, but the forces behind them, which for the most part are very powerful men
08:36 PM on 05/03/2010
The Tea Party is orchestrated by Fox News, Freedom Works, and Americans for Progress. It is not a populist uprising.

Enough said.
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08:59 PM on 05/03/2010
sorry. Obviously you have gotten your knowledge and opinions of the current Tea Party (ies) only from here or perhaps TV and radio. It was born on the internet thru people not able to get their views in media of any other kind. Just like Ron Paul during the last election cycle.
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09:02 PM on 05/03/2010
listen to Olberman and Maddow or Beck or Hannity. They are pure actors and actresses. Some even admit they are there for entertainment.
Do the research somewhere other than TV and Radio and mass media
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mom2luke
05:55 PM on 05/03/2010
The last episode of Bill Moyers Journal had a very good piece on what REAL populism is: focused, united, good vs. evil, right vs. wrong.
Sad that it is so rare because there are so many issues/problems that could be solved with united activism from factory farms to toxic aluminum in vaccines and women's antiperspirants (amid growing suspicions it plays role in neurological damage, cancer, etc) to how FCC doled out the airwaves and now we all listen to national radio stations...
but again and again the deck is stacked against the little people in favor of corporate interests.
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Skunkman
old & decrepit
05:22 PM on 05/03/2010
We know the Tea Party movement isn't about taxes, govmint spending, big government, or individual freedoms, because these people were conspicuously silent during the previous administration. It isn't about wars of choice or unfunded mandates, either. I am not so cynical as to think that these people are upset that 30 million people will soon have access to medical care, and steps are being taken to stop Wall Street from engaging in fraudulent activities designed to bilk the small, unsophisticated investor out of his life savings. We also know it isn't about race, because the Tea Party people are very quick to identify the non-white(s) at their rallies and put them on the podium to show they are not racialist. Besides, it is my understanding that many Tea Party people have some very good friends who are black.

As near as I can tell, their entire agenda can be written on 2 bumper stickers such as "Flat Tax: So Easy Even a Democrat Could Do It" and "Nobama". There's also the purposely vague, emotionally-laden rhetoric like "Take our country back", which of course begs the question that the typical Tea Party person (white, male, 50ish) has somehow lost his seat at America's table. The 'anti-incumbency' thing is interesting, because this energy seems to be exclusively directed at elected officals with a 'D' by their name, and I can't see the end game if a Tea Party person should be elected,
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06:26 PM on 05/03/2010
I want no incumbents period. Maybe Alan Grayson, Ron Paul and a few that dare stand up to the international banksters. But that's it.
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uniquindividual
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09:16 PM on 05/03/2010
I've found the tea party folks on this post to be very anti redistribution. However, they generally remain silent or seemingly dumbstruck when it is explained to them that police, courts, prisons, schools,fFire departments, community water/sewer systems, roads, bridges, airports, national defense, food safety,workplace safety, product safety, social security, medicare control of big busness abuses (Until Banks, S & Ls and Electricity deregulation anyway) are all provided by government and represent redistribution of wealth.
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ColoradoTaxpayer
If u didn't vote-you have no right to complain
02:13 AM on 05/04/2010
Maybe we are quiet because it is painful to try and educate idiots...over and over and over...
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Skunkman
old & decrepit
07:19 AM on 05/04/2010
Hi Uniquindividual: Your post is a lesson on how to write a good post.
Short, with all the information a person would need. I have yet to learn
that a few words with a cogent point. is the way to go. Thank you.

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c-tom
Badges we don't need no stinking badges
04:35 PM on 05/03/2010
With the tea naggers you don't have to go any further back than the Dixiecrats and the John Birch Society .
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mabinog
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04:59 PM on 05/03/2010
exactly, the teabaggers have little to nothing to do with the original tea party other than it being co-opted for PR purposes.
04:01 PM on 05/03/2010
Interesting article. Very fascinating how the entire notion of populism (at least in America) is really just one big contradiction about reconciling the past with an every-changing future; politically, economically, and socially.
04:01 PM on 05/03/2010
I've been to two tea party rallies and found them to be nothing more than a grassroots group of citizens that feel the federal government has gotten too big and costly (not anti govt, just anti big govt). There were absolutely no signs of hatred or racism, just concern for the furure generations that will have to carry the burden of our out-of-control government spending. This movement should have started back in the Bush years, but better late that never. After Bush, the national debt was $56,000 per household. It grew to $72,000 in just the first year of the Obama administration. It is projected to grow to $170,000 per household by 2020. This is not a Repub or Dem issue. Nor is it a right or left issue. It is a major concern toward halting our great nations spiralling debt that will lead to national bankrupcy if not stopped.
04:12 PM on 05/03/2010
I agree about the debt issue but we have to get out of the recession first. If Obama had cut back on spending this would have made the recession worse. The government's goal is to get the recovery started and create an upward momentum. Once this mementum starts and takes a foothold, Obama can begin to reduce spending. Then down the road, increase taxes to help balance our budget. It is Economics 101 folks. During times of recession, you cannot cut back on spending.
04:34 PM on 05/03/2010
You must have missed the part about the projected budget for 2020 being $120,000 per household. Any spending to improve the economy will surely end long before 2020. The problem is increases in entitlements, not jobs bills.
04:40 PM on 05/03/2010
The Repubs and Dems have really done a great job on scaring the American Public about debt, so the public want insist on spending for our national future. It's amazing how we have lots of money to drop bombs on people, lots of money for corporation and business interests, lots of money to donate to political campaigns but no money to invest in the American People. This is a matter of setting national priorities and spending money where it counts. We should know that making vital investing in this country's people and infrastructure is sound spending and creates the foundation for future economics success. Look around the world, India, China, and many other countries, they are investing in their countries future. What is the cost of the burden to the next generation when we are no longer competitive? A Hint! jobs continuing to be outsourced overseas. Frankly, I don't care if this countries government is big or small, as long as it meets the countries needs.
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swimbiker
07:17 PM on 05/03/2010
what are you talking about? Dick Cheney said for years "the debt doesn't matter." The Democrats aren't scaring the public about debt--they see the real need for government spending now to get the recession not to be a depression. No, the national priorities issue is that people do not want any taxes!
03:37 PM on 05/03/2010
What is interesting about this Tea Party phenomenon is that this is a media created groupy. If the media had not spent so much air time coverting a group that is not even a good proportional representation of the population, these people would be nothing today. So lets say thank you to the media for making this nothing group into "something".
03:58 PM on 05/03/2010
Very true, but that's the whole point. If the other 95% of real Americans are exposed to the ongoing tea bagger craziness at least once every day, we will be more inclined to vote blue. We'll see if that strategy works in November..
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06:20 PM on 05/03/2010
sorry the original Tea Party movement was born on the internet. It was hijacked by the Republican Party and now seems to so many as "right wing". .IT was hijacked and taken over by media on the left and right. The left made it look racist and the right made it look ignorant. I assure you if you do the research this party had nothing to do with either party in it's beginning. It was a true grass roots movement that was tired of our policing the world and continuation of wars. Taxing ourselves to death. And the continuation of printing and borrowing money. Money which is based on nothing but debt.
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swimbiker
07:21 PM on 05/03/2010
Oh please! The "left" didn't make the Tea Party "look racist" ---their signs and their words did that. Dick Armey and his PAC sponsored the buses and gave the Tea Party money. It is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Republican Party.

It this was a true grass roots movement, how come it was entirely absent until Barack Obama was elected? Even before he has put forth any policies, the Tea Party was there, opposing him.
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Kristen777
03:25 PM on 05/03/2010
No one will ever convince me that this teaparty movement is about anything but "getting our country back". "Our" being the descendents christian colonials, to whom "god" delivered this country. The rest of us being "14th amendment citizens".

Now that a 14th Amendment citizen is their president - they want their country back. That's all it is.
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swimbiker
07:21 PM on 05/03/2010
Bingo!
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LisaLisa1234
08:51 PM on 05/03/2010
I have to agree.
03:08 PM on 05/03/2010
frankly, I don't know much about the tea party movement. But there seems to be a consensus that is a broad movement of disaffected citizens.
Hence, I find supremely ironic that American liberals decry this grass-roots( I assume) movement of common folk. Despite having for decades urging common people to demand their rights, stand up and be counted. Well, they have--- "be careful what you wish for... "
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03:33 PM on 05/03/2010
Well. With respect, I'd warn against that assumption you admit to. The ties to corporatists are pretty easy to find online. The whole thing kicked off with that scripted wall street whiner and his "shot heard round the world." Agreed that there seems to be a consensus that the Teabaggers are mostly white, mostly old, and mostly racist. And funded by right wing elements and propped up by FOX entertainment news channel. Of course, yes, there are other elements. When people talk about those factions that make up most of the crowd, they are generalizing to give a greater sense of truth than might be attained by mentioning the tiny other elements.
03:46 PM on 05/03/2010
"Agreed that there seems to be a consensus that the Teabaggers are mostly white, mostly old, and mostly racist. "
Hmmmm... Surely, a rather cavalier slash- and- burn attitude with a strong whiff of racism against the "white' and the "old"on your part.
In addition you seem o imply that the "white" and the "old" Americans should be ignored and their voices unheard, solely because you disagree with their stance.
This is seriously misguided approach toward your fellow citizens.
Even more revealing-- your instance that concerns and needs of illegal aliens are heard and addressed.
Hmmm.....
03:49 PM on 05/03/2010
And just where does this consensus that tea partiers are racist come from - obviously those who want to discredit the populist movement against big government. Have you been to a tea party? Have you polled a cross-section of tea partiers. If not, you have absolutely no basis for your negative comments and are victim of the unsubstantiated drivel generated by the liberal MSM.
03:52 PM on 05/03/2010
The tea baggers in America today are frauds who are simply expressing their closeted racial prejudices whenever they assemble. Yes, their leadership consists of former politicians turned Wall Street lobbyists as well as their beloved Fox News propaganda machine. The tea bagger movement is NOT a grass-roots effort, it is a corporate-funded reactionary expression of the death of conservatism in America.
04:17 PM on 05/03/2010
Only politically and culturally naive try to dismiss this movement whcih polls ahead of Republicans and seems to have millions supporters. One might want to counter the movement and its ideals, but this kind of cavalier dismissal of millions of people is childish, at best.