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Southern Baptists: More Lost Than the World They Wish to Save

Posted: 06/26/2012 10:27 am

If you have been following the deliberations at the annual meeting of the Southern Baptist Convention (but then, why would you, there are better circuses to watch?), you are aware of their decisions -- all of which underscore the point of this post that Southern Baptist are more lost than the world they wish to save.

In the last few decades, the denomination has become increasingly marginalized. It is rapidly declining and today is the laughingstock of the Christian and non-Christian world, not to speak of the religious and non-religious.

The five most notable decisions made by Southern Baptist at this year's convention meeting are these:

• They changed their name. Well, not officially. They call their new designation a mere "descriptor." From now on, Southern Baptists will be described as "Great Commission Baptists."

That clears things up, doesn't it? Everything except the thorny-little-issue-today-that-soon-will-be-a-big-issue tomorrow. Perhaps you, too, can hear the question from a confused but newly-designated Great Commission Southern Baptist? "Now that we're Great Commission Baptists, are we to make disciples of 'all people' or just the 'elect'?"

It is for this reason, I suppose, the leaders of these Great Commission Southern Baptists...

• Reaffirmed the Baptist Faith & Message statement concluding it provides "sufficient understanding of the doctrine of salvation."

Whew! It's a good thing that passed. Had it not, there might have been a division in this ever-diminishing denomination as a debate ensued on the floor of their Convention between the Calvinists-Baptists and Arminian-Baptists or the "Particular-Atonement Great Commission Southern Baptists" and the "General-Atonement Great Commission Southern Baptists." That debate which, coincidentally, is coming will have to wait for another day. One can handle only so much confusion in one convention.

• For the first time in their history, they affirmed the "sinner's prayer" as the means of activating Divine grace, but warned, "it is not an incantation that results in salvation merely by its recitation."

I bet Bill Bright and D. James Kennedy just turned with excitement in their graves. Their "sinner's prayer" is on its way to becoming a dogma within the Baptist denomination.

• They reaffirmed their belief in the doctrine of inerrancy to save Adam and Eve.

Maybe it's just me, but I find it ironic that these Great Commission Southern Baptists will readily debate whether you or I or anyone else might be among the "elect," but, by golly, they will stop at nothing to save Adam and Eve, even if they must pass a resolution every year at every annual Convention.

"To hell with Adam and Steve, we must save Adam and Eve." Which is, of course...

• Why they once again at this year's convention denied the efforts of others to legalize "same-sex marriage" by reaffirming that, to these Great Commission Southern Baptists, it is not a "civil-rights issue."

In other words, just in case Adam and Steve might have forgotten, these Great Commission Southern Baptists want us to remember that God created Adam and Eve NOT Adam and Steve.

Like I said earlier, there are better circuses to watch. Which makes this one all the more unfortunate. Southern Baptists...Great Commission Baptists...whoever these people are -- and I'm pretty certain they no longer know -- have found themselves yet again engaging in meaningless debates and making disastrous and divisive decisions. Proof further, if you ask me, Great Commission Southern Baptists are more lost than the world they once hoped to save.

 
 
 

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09:04 PM on 06/26/2012
McSwain takes such a 'holier than thou' attitude.... amazing! Who do you say Jesus is?
11:28 AM on 06/26/2012
I was raised as a child in the Southern Baptist church. I think they are driven by fear, not love. They constantly paint vivid images of hell and scare kids. I look back on it as child abuse which I still find myself working to overcome.
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checkmoot
We have met the enemy and he is us.
10:27 AM on 06/26/2012
There's enough of them that a guy like Santorum could win presidential primaries in the states they control. At least the Taliban are in Afghanistan, these people are here.
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Wes Hopper
Preferring facts to opinion or blind faith
09:34 AM on 06/26/2012
If it wasn't for the human suffering that these fundamentalist doctrines cause, I'd be cheering them on. My wife is an ordained minister (in a "godless liberal" denomination) and the faculty, staff and her class at seminary were populated with LGBT refugees from fundy churches including the Southern Baptists. Those bigots have no idea what they're doing by chasing away some of their very best and brightest people, but our response is "Send us more!" We've gotten fantastic ministers, speakers, musicians, Board members, writers and teachers, and they in return have found a community that values inclusiveness, scholarship, science, and inquiry. The stories of the pain and persecution that they've endured in denominations like the SB's is heartbreaking. Hopefully the young evangelicals will change these denominations, but in the meantime people still suffer.
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bigone4u
Polymath--Thinking is serious work.
09:15 AM on 06/26/2012
They are the nation's largest Protestant denomination. They just elected a black President, just four years behind the nation. They stood up for what they believe the Bible says no matter the pressure to do otherwise.

It seems to me this group has a lot of fight left for a group "more lost than the world it set out to save.".
08:53 AM on 06/26/2012
Steve,
Thanks for reporting on the Southern Baptist Convention. I'm a Southern Baptist and while I agree that we are an imperfect denomination that may be declining, I see a lot of good coming out of our churches and people. I see a lot of hungry people being fed, a lot of hurting marriages and families being healed and a lot of imperfect sinners like us finding a Savior in Jesus. While we do discuss many issues at our annjual meeting that may appear silly to the watching world, I see a group of people who for the most part love God and who are trying to follow Him by faith.
I would encourage your readers to seek out a local Southern Baptist church and get to the know the people. I think you will find a group of very loving but imperfect people in all 50 states.
Have a great day,
Bill
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whirlpool
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10:37 AM on 06/26/2012
A couple of Baptists came to my door to invite me to church. When they found out I was a scientist who "believes" in evolution, they became very insulting and aggressive. A fist fight almost broke out. Who needs this pfister?
01:04 PM on 06/26/2012
Nobody needs this. Shame on the man who came to your house. He was wrong. I've been wrong before too. I bet you've been wrong before too. Do you believe in sin? Do you believe we need a Savior?
10:38 AM on 06/26/2012
I agree that some Southern Baptists can be loving if imperfect; however, it is the organization as a whole and some of their churches that I find problematic. They are too politicized and their members seem to be more fans of Jesus than followers. Their members often are very good at judging others but not themselves. I have attended Baptist churches, by the way, and so speak from some experience.
01:06 PM on 06/26/2012
I've met some pretty goofy people too... no denomination, no church is perfect. We are sinful, messed up people. All I'm saying is that there are very many good people doing good things as well. Sometimes that gets lost in all this hate speech.
06:35 AM on 06/26/2012
Predestination is an interesting diet of worms. Many in the pre-Reformation Church favored this doctrine as a logical conclusion of god's omniscience & omnipotence though we tend to think of it these days as being a peculiarly Calvinist belief.

The two issues it raises are interesting as they are at the heart of the absurdity of all Abrahamic faiths.

1. If all is predestination through god's will and knowledge then morality is irrelevant and we can do anything we want. This led to big problems in the early Reformation.
2. And good works are useless.

The rationalization required to justify and impose a moral system is necessarily self-contradictory, in fact nonsensical as are arguments that good works are worthwhile.

The story of Calvin and Servetus shows what kind of horrible person Calvin was, sending a scholar to the Inquisition to show how orthodox he was. No doubt god willed it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Servetus
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forestlady
10:55 AM on 06/26/2012
Why are you talking about predestination? I don't know of any Christian faith that espouses that concept except for Jehovah's Witnesses.
11:17 AM on 06/26/2012
Then you should read more.