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The Real Energy Future

Posted: 04/16/2012 1:25 pm

In this overheated political season, everyone is focused on the short run and even our reasonably thoughtful president continues to succumb to the mantra of the moment. The president is trying very hard to focus on jobs and the economy, and the more immediate the benefit the better. On Friday the 13th President Obama used his executive authority to form an interagency working group to encourage hydrofracking. According to the president's order:

"In 2011, natural gas provided 25 percent of the energy consumed in the United States. Its production creates jobs and provides economic benefits to the entire domestic production supply chain ... with appropriate safeguards, natural gas can provide a cleaner source of energy than other fossil fuels... To formalize and promote ongoing interagency coordination, this order establishes a high-level, interagency working group that will facilitate coordinated Administration policy efforts to support safe and responsible unconventional domestic natural gas development."

It is obvious that we will be using more natural gas in the United States than ever before, and it would be nice if this gas was extracted without destroying vital ecosystems and groundwater sources. It is true that natural gas burns cleaner than coal and oil, but it still pollutes and emits greenhouse gasses. All of this emphasis on extracting fossil fuels from the earth needs to be seen as a short to medium term solution to our energy needs.

Just as we are in the midst of a transformation from land line phones to cell phones, we will someday find ourselves in a transformation from a fossil fuel based economy to a post fossil fuel economy. Naysayers beware -- the fossil fuel free energy future will come. The only thing we don't know is when it will come and what technologies will fuel it.

Why am I so confident? First, the modern economy is built on energy. We need lots of it and India, China and eventually Africa will need even more than we do. The motivation to develop new sources of energy is incredibly high. Second, fossil fuel extraction damages ecosystems, and human life depends on well-functioning ecosystems. Third, fossil fuel use emits greenhouse gasses that cause climate change, and climate change disrupts human settlements, agriculture and infrastructure. These disruptions are expensive and climate change provides a strong motivation to develop alternatives to fossil fuels. Fourth, fossil fuels are finite and will eventually run out. As fossil fuels become scarce they will become more expensive, creating an even stronger motivation to develop lower cost alternatives. Fifth, fossil fuels are expensive to transport. All of these factors are stimulating a world-wide technological race to replace fossil fuels with other sources of energy.

As I've written before, somewhere in a garage in America or in basement in China, some teenager is working on a low-cost solar cell and battery that will make her a billionaire and reduce the cost of energy for everyone. OK, maybe it won't be a single teenager, but a team of older folks; and maybe it will be a series of inventions from a world scientific community that has never been more interconnected or in closer constant communication. But it will happen and when it does, the powerful interests that control the fossil fuel supplies will either get with the program, or get wiped out. Kodak was slow to recognize the end of the film business and ended up bankrupt. Borders couldn't survive the decline of the paper book. The oil companies use politics to fight dirty, so they will continue to promote fossil fuels, but the global clean energy business will not be stopped by campaign contributions and high-priced lobbyists. My guess is that these companies are smart enough to adapt to the fossil fuel free energy future.

Which brings me back to hydrofracking: We will be mining fossil fuels for the next several decades and since its going to happen we need to do it in a way that is as safe as possible. Mining should take place in the least fragile ecosystems and should be tightly governed by an aggressive regulatory regime. Damage will take place, but effective policing will reduce the destruction and the costs of regulation will not be ruinous. There will be plenty of short-term profits to be made by exploiting these natural gas resources, and a few percentage points of profit devoted to safety can be easily afforded. We just need to make sure we don't get too greedy for our own good.

Many of our economic and environmental problems stem from our dependence on fossil fuels. Nevertheless, we will be using lots of these fuels until alternatives are developed. When these alternatives come, fossil fuel use will continue for many decades and so we need to develop the technology of carbon capture and storage and we also need to learn to mine fossil fuels without damaging the environment. That is why I support the president's initiative to encourage and coordinate "unconventional domestic natural gas development." We need to learn how to effectively regulate fossil fuel extraction. The idea that we can simply stop mining fossil fuels is not realistic.

All of us are addicted to energy. It is more than a little hypocritical to oppose the use of fossil fuels while typing on our computers, listening to our iPods and communicating over the Internet. The jobs and economic growth so central to the presidential election campaign now underway depend on the availability of plentiful and reasonably priced energy. We use energy so frequently in the course of the day, that most of the time we are not even aware we are using it. We can use energy more efficiently than we do, but our real energy future will require much more energy than our energy present. The only question is the degree and intensity of the environmental damage that will result from our use of energy. We have the ability to contain that damage. Do we have the political will required to do so? That's a very good question.

 

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In this overheated political season, everyone is focused on the short run and even our reasonably thoughtful president continues to succumb to the mantra of the moment. The president is trying very ha...
In this overheated political season, everyone is focused on the short run and even our reasonably thoughtful president continues to succumb to the mantra of the moment. The president is trying very ha...
 
 
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11:51 AM on 04/21/2012
Steve Cohen writes yet another example of what Dr. Bill Sloane once called "the energy entrepreneur fallacy"

Here's a quote from Cohen:
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"Somewhere in a garage in America or in basement in China, some teenager is working on a low-cost solar cell and battery that will make her a billionaire and reduce the cost of energy for everyone. OK, maybe it won't be a single teenager, but a team of older folks; and maybe it will be a series of inventions from a world scientific community...but it will happen"
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In fact as Sloan shows in his paper, this quote is an intellectual fallacy...it assumes that the same type of innovation in software/computers will work in other industries, like Energy. It's simply not true.

The energy problem is utterly unlike the rest of the high-tech industry, which is why essentially ALL of the much-hyped energy "startups" have failed miserably.

Sorry folks, I know everybody is hoping for some magic green solution to pop up. It isn't happening, time to get real.
Genders
Love, Tolerance, Enlightenment
03:37 AM on 04/22/2012
Oh, it's a fallacy alright. Solar panels are 85 cents per W or less. That's cheap. It's not the problem anymore, Solar is the cheapest electricity for millions of Americans and billion of people world wide.

The Magic green solution is here NOW.

Rooftop solar, offshore wind, efficiency, waste bio char and fuels and commuter hybrids can solve all our energy problems, cheaper, faster, clean, safe and forever.

The MAGIC we need is for people to realize it, wake up, and force their politicians to remove the huge 500M$ per reactor per year and similar for clean coal, ngas and trillion dollar wars for oil...
rooftop solar, offshore eff, wind waste and commuter hybrids. That is the combination that works.

Get real.
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aligatorhardt
Cut on the bias
09:42 AM on 04/21/2012
President Obama and Democratic congressmen have introduced many measures to spur investment in renewable energy and reduce our imports of oil, while protecting our water and air. Republican efforts have concentrated on defeating investment strategies and job creation, just to try and support the lie that Obama and Democrats are ineffective.   Republicans go so far as to block legislation, then blame Democrats for not getting the laws passed. Voters need to install more independent congressmen to counter the mob behavior of Republicans who are pushing a " big oil agenda ", at the expense of the American people. I recommend looking at the Green Party platform, as elections for Congress, state, and local offices approach. We need to break the stranglehold of the two party system, and give the support needed for Obama's winning strategies to make us more energy independent, and save money , while creating relevant jobs that will stay.
11:55 AM on 04/21/2012
The republicans don't have to do much really. They just sit back and wait for the green energy world to collapse from it's own weight. Pretty easy on their part.

Fossil fuels are so filthy, and nuclear is so radioactive. Like most people I really wish green energy was more viable.

But it's not, and wishing for it won't make it so. This isn't a Disney movie where wishes magically come true.
Genders
Love, Tolerance, Enlightenment
06:48 PM on 04/25/2012
Green energy is cheaper than nukes. Cheaper than clean coal, cheaper than wars for oil. Cheaper than replacing the fresh water fracking destroys.

Why do you keep repeating the claim that green is too expensive?
05:25 AM on 04/20/2012
The price of gas will keep on rising Solar and Wind power will look much more attractive then
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novelist2000
veritas non olet
07:46 AM on 04/19/2012
...' need to develop carbon capture and storage?' Billions have been poured into it and the result is still zilch. You need to guarantee 'no leakages' but nobody can see what exactly is going on down there.

More importantly, however, it raises electricity prices to astronomically levels, year by year.

Imagine, carbon capture and storage had been introduced 5 years ago. Today's electricity consumer would pay for the monitoring and maintenance of a 5 year storage facility. In 5 years, that customer will pay for the monitoring and maintenance of a 10 year storage facility, and so forth and so on.

That is unworkable or as we say here these days, that's a no brainer. Better check out what they're testing in Germany, with RWE amonst others: Use CO2 to make polyurethane foams.
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aligatorhardt
Cut on the bias
09:50 AM on 04/21/2012
Pilot projects have shown good results for using CO2 and hydrogen generated by electrolysis of water using electricity from wind to create a synthetic methane, that can be fed into existing natural gas mixtures.
That would be a far better way to consume CO2 instead of wasting energy trying to hide it. Using CO2 as a growth enhancer for algae biofuel operations is another method of getting the most return on CO2 collection. It is time for advancement in the energy industry, not retreat into old comfort zones, while ignoring the real costs of using dirty power.
11:57 AM on 04/21/2012
How many thousands of "promising pilot projects" have we see hyped, and then turn out to be a scam?

Oh goodie, here's another one.
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novelist2000
veritas non olet
02:45 AM on 04/22/2012
I wholeheartedly agree. Find uses instead of putting it out of sight and just hope there won't be any leak. Glad to hear there is another use and maybe someone more knowledgeable than me could consolidate that in a list.

Sydney University had successfully made hydrogen from seawater and sun energy - but somehow we still hear about coal. It sounds like a default position, research and discuss - and then come back to coal and nuclear. Why do the big boys love it so much? Their grandchildren will also have to breathe (I guess) and the higher the CO2 content, the more difficult breathing becomes and underground storage can never be leakproof I guess, apart from the costs accumulating year by year. And all discussions always leave the accumulating costs out!?!? So I felt I had to mention it.
Genders
Love, Tolerance, Enlightenment
06:50 PM on 04/25/2012
Absolutely. And what happens when we get a major quake and all the gas is released?

Waste bio char is the only good way to capture atmospheric carbon and store it in stable sold form.

Meanwhile the radioactive heavy metals also continue.

Fossils and nukes are dead ends.
11:19 PM on 04/17/2012
Another Big Oil informercial promoting natural gas and its partner the not so renewable/gas backup scam.

Modern factory produced nuclear is cheaper than natural gas and far cheaper once gas exports begin.

Note that studies have shown gas to be a worse GHG producer than coal because of system methane leaks.

International gas prices are now up to $18/mcf as much as 8 times US cost. Big Oil's spokespersons never wonder why we aren't building LNG plants when the gas is only a $2/mcf LNG ride to the international market.

Can it be that Big Oil is holding off construction, dumping gas as fast as they can pump and paying our politicians and Big Media to deny LNG licence until coal plants get converted to gas instead of the feared nukes? Why is that enormous LNG plants are being built in Australia where paid off governments have antinuke legislation?

Already nuke hydrogen or natural gas based Shell Qatar type GTL plants make diesel cheaper than tar sands petrol can.
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aligatorhardt
Cut on the bias
10:00 AM on 04/21/2012
We have heard the false promises of cheap electricity too many times, while electric bills go up constantly, and consumers are asked to then pay extra surcharges for the building of reactors, that now cost  $8 billion and more. Then the public is left standing on liability costs, in the case of an accident like Fukushima, can cost hundreds of billions of dollars, while still leaving people chased from their homes and farms, jobs and neighborhoods, and the medical expenses continue for decades. Even normal operation of reactors have resulted in increased cancer rates nearby. Then we have the waste issue, which even after many years of  contributions by the nuclear industry, the funds for waste are not even enough to cover the cost of transport for a nation with 104 reactors holding up to 50 years of radioactive wastes.
Stop the nuclear industry welfare programme | Bernie Sanders and Ryan Alexander | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk

French court finds nuclear too expensive - News - Renewables International

Economics of nuclear power
Genders
Love, Tolerance, Enlightenment
06:52 PM on 04/25/2012
New nukes power is more expensive than rooftop pv solar, twice the costs of wind and waste.

But you keep leaving out the capital cost of the reactors and the 500M$ in breaks per reactor per year.
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Overtone
See bio on the Aesop Institute website
07:32 PM on 04/17/2012
Black Swans are being born - highly improbable innovations with surprising implications.

For example, the hydroelectric fuel cell invented in Vietnam. You add only water: fresh or salt.
A 2,000 watt generator for homes is headed for production at a price of $1,600.

See Moving Beyond Oil and Cheap Green at www.aesopinstitute.org to learn more about this and a few others in the gathering flock.

Top Threat on that site will explain why superseding nuclear power now has extraordinary urgency.

Wise action in that regard will sharply accelerate decentralized renewable energy beginning with rooftop solar.

It can boost the economy and generate jobs!
11:07 PM on 04/17/2012
Aesop was known for his fables.
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Overtone
See bio on the Aesop Institute website
01:21 AM on 04/18/2012
Yes! He was a fabulous storyteller. By means of his fables, he taught the way the world really works - as opposed to what was taught in schools.

The academic world is no less out of touch with reality today.

However, arrogant ignorance has become far more dangerous.
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Robert Lee Harrington
I'd Love To Change The World..
02:14 PM on 04/17/2012
The future is electric....

Solar or Nuclear or Hydroelectric
12:01 PM on 04/21/2012
Solar electric still doesn't break even. They still can't build large-scale plants ... cost overruns and engineering.

Hydroelectric is shrinking...not expanding, because dam sites are being dis-approved for environmental reasons.

So, what's left is Nuclear.

Right?
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aligatorhardt
Cut on the bias
08:38 PM on 04/23/2012
Wrong
02:04 PM on 04/17/2012
If a single person in a basement were to invent the next gen energy source, they won't be a billionaire... they will be the world's first multi-trillionaire. Which ever nation become the owner/supplier of the next gen energy will be the #1 super power.
09:44 AM on 04/17/2012
Just a reminder - small is beautiful.
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Davidc Smith
Montani Sempre Liberi
10:28 PM on 04/16/2012
The changes will not only come in generation technologies, but how we use energy. There are limits as to what the market will bare, even in monopolies like power companies. As the price per kilowat hour climbs, people will turn off the lights, and opt for appliances that are more efficient. Price of gas gets over 4 bucks per galleon, fuel efficient cars pay for themselves in savings. Already, low powered LED's are available for lighting. These efficient technologies, which get more bang for the buck will fuel the new generation technolies as less power is needed. The next wave will be exceptionally fuel efficient houses, with at home power generations. Economics will dictate it.
01:20 AM on 04/17/2012
I believe we will look back thirty years from now and laugh at the notion that we were using too much energy. The source of our energy and the inherent destruction that source wreaks is a problem; however, once we cross into the post-pyro era of energy production - we will arrive at an entirely new sense of how much energy we can and should consume. We are at the knuckle-dragging stage in energy evolution and their are some fossils that would like to keep us there.
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aligatorhardt
Cut on the bias
10:39 AM on 04/21/2012
I agree, that we need not suffer from lack of electricity. Clean, fuel free power sources allow for higher consumption without the extreme damages of dirty power. Once the equipment cost are paid, it is only maintenance left to pay for. I recently looked at energy star refrigerators and found that they use 1/4 the power as my old one, and still cost about the same as 12 years ago. The new TVs are much more efficient than the old rear projector big screens, or picture tube tvs. I use an LED desk lamp, bought for $12 dollars that uses about 1/10 of the electricity as an incandescent bulb lamp. Air conditioners are much better, and solar water heaters reduce hot water costs greatly. Efficiency gains have already resulted in lower electricity use than predicted in past years.
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Trustfunded1
09:46 PM on 04/16/2012
Horses,mules,ox and manual human labor will be needed to produce enough food for an expanding human population without petroleum.
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aligatorhardt
Cut on the bias
10:40 AM on 04/21/2012
Pffffttt!
12:07 PM on 04/21/2012
Horses and mules are like, the most inefficient, environmentally destructive form of transportation ever invented.

Otherwise, good point.
Genders
Love, Tolerance, Enlightenment
09:29 PM on 04/16/2012
"The only thing we don't know is when it will come and what technologies will fuel it."

Maybe "we" don't, but there is a perfectly good plan: rooftop solar, offshore wind, efficiency, plug in electric commuter hybrids and waste bio char bio fuels....

Can supply many times the energy we need even with first world energy use for all 9B people peak.

Chepaer than nukes, clean coal and aproaching ngas asnd dirty coal, 24/7 using waste bio fuels in existing fossil plants, but clean without the radiactive heavy metals, and carbon negative if you use the char as fertilizer.

Forever. safe clean, faster to install. and doubling every year or so now, and ready to replace fossils and nukes within 7 years if we pushed it.

If we dumped all the huge breaks that fossils and nukes still get into green energy.

Solar cheaper than nukes and energy source amounts: http://cleantechnica.com/2011/08/23/solar-power-intro-3-key-solar-power-points-top-solar-power-news/ Note the fossil and nuke numbers are totals, the solar wind and waste are PER YEAR!

http://www.ncwarn.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/NCW-SolarReport_final1.pdf

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Comparative_electrical_generation_costs
shows overlap in solar and nukes costs at around 13 cents.

http://cleantechnica.com/2011/05/29/ge-solar-power-cheaper-than-fossil-fuels-in-5-years/

http://nukepimp.blogspot.com/p/renewable-and-energy-efficiency.html 3 cents
11:25 PM on 04/16/2012
I always get a kick out of Genders posting of links from his solarian religious sites. Most of the time he doesn't even read them.

Offshore wind now tariffed at 25 cents a kwh still isn't producing any power in the US since first proposed in 1991

NREL tells us rooftop PV can provide at most 3% of US energy requirements.

Ontario's tariff of roughly 60 cents a kwh for solar is the actual cost of providing it with another 20 cents a kwh for 8 times sized transmission builds and 100% name plate gas backup providing close to 100% of the power from the solar/gas backup scam. Add green storage add another buck a kwh. For wind subtract 40 cents a kwh from that

Real solar install in service Jan 2011 by expert engineers at Duke Energy using real solar panels not the Walmart quality Chinese junk that Big Oil's not so greed media pushes with the same service life as everything else you buy at Walmart.

http://www.pv-tech.org/project_focus/davidson_county_solar_farm_north_carolina

$43 a watt average, 65 cents a kwh at Dukes discount rate.

Waste biomass can supply only a tiny percentage of energy needs at enormous cost.

Real cost of nukes

Units 26 and 27 of Candu technology.all on time in 4 years and on budget at $2B/Gw or less than 3 cents a kwh.

Google cnnc 168 candu
Genders
Love, Tolerance, Enlightenment
02:39 AM on 04/17/2012
Look it up folks. 1$ per watt rooftop solar pv. installed. 65 cents per watt for new panels.
This guys "facts" are so ridiculous he just proves he not honest.
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aligatorhardt
Cut on the bias
10:51 AM on 04/21/2012
Offshore wind has been delayed for a decade, and that is tragic. There is far more than enough wind resources to power the entire countries needs from that source alone. We have 5 states obtaining more than 20% of electricity from wind onshore. I see you found a time capsule to get wind costs out of. Wind is running averages of 6 to 8 cent/kwh. Over 24 TWH of wind was throttled back last year in the US, to keep the price of electricity high, and because of lack of modernization of the grid does not allow power shifting. These shutdowns of turbines are often the result of protecting the profits of older power plants.
25 TWh of Wind Power Idled in 2010 in US – Grid Storage Needed - CleanTechnica

Wind Levelized Cost of Electricity (LCOE) at All-Time Low - CleanTechnica

Google, Citi Invest Lots More In Wind Power
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RagMag
still living a Ragtime Life
07:20 PM on 04/16/2012
Good article. I would only question the energy usage attributed to computer communications. It seems to me that the internet is a huge energy saver, saving folks the necessity to travel as much.
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aligatorhardt
Cut on the bias
10:54 AM on 04/21/2012
The US Postal service is dealing with the loss of all the mailed checks, and papers, forms that used to be sent in the mail, but are now replaced with electronic transfers. With FAX and E-mail, paper use is greatly reduced. If more people would take advantage of video conferencing, travel could be reduced.
12:16 PM on 04/21/2012
Unfortunately, the internet is an energy hog. Yes, it saves on paper transport etc. However it requires humoungous server farms, humming away 24 hours a day, which such up MASSIVE amounts of electricity.

The Internet is the fastest-growing energy expenditure of the modern world.

Of course, you won't see articles honestly discussing this, on any green web sites. They hate to think that they ARE the problem.
06:00 PM on 04/16/2012
....Naysayers beware -- the fossil fuel free energy future will come. The only thing we don't know is when it will come and what technologies will fuel it......

If we do not know what technologies that will fuel it, why are we giving billions of dollars to solar cell companies and other green technologies that may never produce enough affordable power to power the economy?

OH! That right. We give them billions of dollars because they contribute to the Obama campaigns!

Duhhh!

HOPE and CHANGE!
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whirlpool
founder walnut tree congregation
09:27 PM on 04/16/2012
Complete nonsense. Just about everything of value in our infrastructure was started and developed by governmental subsidy and sponsorship. Where I live we prosper because of dams, rural electrification projects, irrigation systems, land reclamation projects, airports, highways, railroads, land grant colleges, nuclear stations--every one of them started by governmental intervention and subsidy at least at the beginning going back to the Great Depression and before. We still have a surplus of low cost power because of the dams built by the government. Green technologies will have to be subsidized for a time to get them going. As the article said we have no other choice. Governmental/private partnerships are the key to the future. You need to find some other reason to dislike Obama.
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Robert Lee Harrington
I'd Love To Change The World..
02:16 PM on 04/17/2012
I'm sure all of your fans agree with you; all 3.
04:35 PM on 04/16/2012
If someone where to develop a low cost solar cell or an advanced battery it would be stolen by corporations armed with an army of lawyers. No singular inventor ever succeed in our time. We have given everything to the publically traded corporations and they will determine the future.