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Unleash the Kraken! Creationism, Kookiness, and Alleged Censorship

Posted: 10/26/11 12:12 PM ET

Here are some recent headlines:

"Darwin Challenged, Research Censored"
"Global Warming Study Censored by EPA"
"Darwin Censors Strike Again"

You might get the impression from such headlines that scientists are engaged in systematic suppression of dissent, ruthlessly silencing all those who fail to toe the party line on evolution and climate. One governor went so far as to compare those who reject the science of climate change to Galileo, suggesting such doubters are scientific martyrs.

While some fantasize that all scientists work together in a secretive Marxist cabal dedicated to ruining the economy with carbon caps and foisting godless materialism onto impressionable youngsters, the truth is quite different.

One place to see the tolerance and openness of the scientific community is at conferences. As it happens, I've just returned from one such meeting, the 2011 meeting of the Geological Society of America (GSA), one of the biggest get-togethers for earth scientists in the country.

GSA has a history of openness that might surprise those who imagine scientists as censors. As I detailed in an article for Earth magazine, in 2009 and 2010, the GSA allowed well-known young-earth creationists to run field trips and give presentations at GSA conferences. I have argued that because the young-earth creationists' presentations followed the guidelines for presentations, used normal techniques, and employed the standard geologic timeline, the GSA made the right decision in allowing them.

This year's conference again hosted a few more cryptic creationist posters, but these actually seemed tame compared to a few of the other presentations.

One odd GSA talk reinterpreted a fossil assemblage as the discarded meals of a giant "Triassic Kraken." In a titanic clash of science and sensationalism, this crafty cephalopod was conjectured to be the "most intelligent invertebrate ever" -- so talented, in fact, that it sculpted "the earliest known self-portrait" using the bones of its prey. Uh huh.

No word if this kraken was also able to predict the outcomes of World Cup games. One astute commentator, noting that there was "not a shred of actual evidence to back up the claims," suggested the talk should have been titled the "Squid that Ate Common Sense." Far from censoring even outlandish ideas, here the GSA here let a very wild idea see the light of day.

Not to be outdone, another GSA presentation posited "Plausible explanations for two major events in earth history." To the skeptic's ear, when the word "plausible" needs to be included, this is a warning sign that what is described may not, in fact, be so plausible. And this poster presentation did not disappoint. It described previously unrecognized impacts of "two large asteroids," which apparently caused the breakup of the ancient supercontinent Pangaea into different continents. These impact-driven land masses were hurled across the globe in "minutes rather than millennia." India, for example, slammed against Asia "with greatest initial velocity" to create the Himalayas. The evidence for all this was supposedly "readily observable via Google Maps." Uh huh.

What do these presentations tell us? For one thing, the idea that the scientific community ruthlessly enforces conformity is wrong. The claim that scientists are censors holds about as much weight as the idea that the thrashing of the tentacles of a giant squid is responsible for plate tectonics. (Hey, there's a thought for the next GSA conference...)

While purveyors of pseudoscience and deniers of well-established science alike complain bitterly about alleged exclusion and censorship of their ideas, the truth is that if they submitted their ideas for the scrutiny of the people attending a relevant scientific conference, or for the review of an appropriate scientific journal, they would likely get a fair hearing.

Consider this: Do you think arsenic is part of the DNA of Mono Lake bacteria? A paper positing this was published last year in Science -- and quickly debunked. Do you think you can create cold fusion using simple lab equipment? That claim was seriously considered -- and quickly shown to be false.

These ideas have something in common: They were not censored. Despite the accusations of scientists colluding in a conspiracy to silence dissent, the reality is very different.

One strength of science is its process for considering even outlandish proposals, giving them a fair and skeptical hearing, and discarding those ideas which simply do not have the evidence. Even after rejection, the door remains open for new evidence to change initial conclusions; perhaps a yet-undiscovered fossil will reveal a kraken in the act of composing a self-portrait.

So the next time you hear someone claiming their ideas about evolution or climate change are being censored by scientists, tell them that if they truly have evidence, they should submit it and let other scientists critique it. Science is not a spectator sport; get in the game or go home.

 
 
 
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03:53 PM on 11/02/2011
The only thing that has corrupted science on a regular basis is money and ego. Many drug companies fund testing on their drugs and end up using scientists that will ignore data that doesn't fit with what the drug company wants because they would lose their paycheck. Another instance of conflict of interest. The drug companies shouldn't be allowed to pick the people doing studies on their drugs. Just like companies with securities to be rated shouldn't be allowed to pick the rating company.
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
04:04 PM on 10/29/2011
The evidence for the kraken stuff is a bit thin, but is consistent with how octopuses fiddle with things today; it also led to the headline `smokin' kraken', which is a hall-of-famer. In contrast, the `flying continent' stuff is BS on a stick.
07:00 AM on 10/29/2011
TELEPATHY
At Edinburgh University, experts conducted controlled experiments to see if telepathy is possible.
The Edinburgh University Koestler Lab could never confirm if telepathy works but they never did any experiment on Vinko Rajic
or Uri Geller, maybe they do not want to find that what are they looking for.

- James Randi offer 1000000$ for any paranormal evidence, but Vinko and Uri can use telepathy or maybe NOT?

- CIA's "remote viewing" , "Stargate Project", the ability to psychically "see" events, sites,
or information from a great distance.
Actually there is not evidence that this would be possible. Telepathic people like Vinko Rajic never know who is
sending to them. Human brains have not any number and is maybe impossible to know from which head you are receiving and to
which head you are sending. Theoretical this is impossible to localize someone on very long distance and connect it.

Telepathy works also??
03:10 AM on 10/27/2011
Good science is based on a combination of empirical data, rigorous work, and peer review. Using these criteria it is pretty easy to judge the scientific merit of kraken studies, creationism, or even contra climate science misinformation propagated by think tanks funded by fossil fuel companies, the Cokes, etc. Nevertheless this sort of anti-science propaganda is quite effective in eroding the trust of citizens in scientific results and therefore muddying the political and social discourse around pressing issues of our time. I suppose there has always been a certain degree of kookiness lurking on the edges of scientific community, although the kookiness to clearheadedness ratio ebbs and flows throughout the modern era.
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TheCycad
Shape The Future, Don't Be Swept Away By It
12:05 PM on 10/27/2011
F & F
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HawaiiSteve
be your own lamp... let truth be your light!
03:24 PM on 10/27/2011
F&F from Hawaii!
01:39 AM on 10/27/2011
In reality science has its own orthodoxy and is quite intolerant of ideas that they consider heretical.
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Draekia
Open-minded thinker and traveller
02:35 AM on 10/27/2011
Except... No. Not true. Unless of course you mean evidence-lacking conjectures that fly in the face of all the data we have so far. Then, yes. But that is the nature of science, if you have an idea, research it an bring it up to the community. Tees people want to understand, not live by some religious doctrine devoid of all higher brain functioning.
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chrisd3
07:13 AM on 10/27/2011
Not if you have a reasonable idea, sound logic, and good evidence. They will listen. Remember that most of the stuff we now know to be true--including both evolution and climate change--were "heretical" at one point. Good science wins over the scientific community every time.

It's the cranks, crackpots, and all-knowing amateurs that they don't have much time for.
tonybfine
fractional reserve lending is counterfeiting
01:25 AM on 10/27/2011
I am going to take issue here. The Mono Lake bacteria that appeared to be using arsenic instead of phosphorous in DNA and ATP are still being studied by the harshest critics of the original paper. Pons and Fleischman's work has gone on quietly and the initial problems were due to inability to reproduce the material science and the deuterium loading. These reactions in the solid state seem to have different branching ratios than in plasma with the more common reactions producing very little radiation. Andrea Rossi meanwhile is demonstrating 100% success on a little (50 mL) low energy reactor involving nanoparticle nickel and hydrogen, with a proposed transmutation of one isotope of nickel to one of copper and then back to another isotope of nickel. More energy than any conceivable chemical reaction. 6 months on one charge of reactants. The science establishment can be a bit Medieval Catholic Church at times, not as small "c" catholic perhaps as it should be. I shall now do a bit of out-there speculation for fun. A satellite to sample the solar wind found a composition (heavier elements) different from Earth suggesting maybe the Earth came from somewhere else. Is unusual bulge on far side of Moon that folks speculate was a large asteroid impact. Maybe the two connected and inter-galactic stellar engineers brought things together and seeded life here with Moon same angular size as Sun so we would get discover astronomy and space travel. Honestly for fun.
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Steven Newton
08:52 PM on 10/27/2011
Well, I think this concurs with my more general point that even if original outlandish ideas prove to be unfounded, that doesn't preclude later developments from supporting the original hypothesis. Who wouldn't love for cold fusion to become a reality? How cool would it be if arsenic could be part of DNA? These ideas just need a _lot_ more empirical support.
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
03:58 PM on 10/29/2011
Dude - seriously. Listen: do NOT give any money to Mr Rossi. I fear I might be too late with this advice.
10:50 PM on 10/26/2011
Speaking from a completely non-scientific viewpoint, the lectures about Krakens and continental collisions sound like much more fun than the real science.

I'll take my theories with a side of the fantastical, please.
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TheCycad
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12:09 PM on 10/27/2011
LOL
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Steven Newton
08:55 PM on 10/27/2011
You make a good point: Many scientists do an awful job of marketing their discoveries in ways that the public can easily understand. In fact, some scientists hold that those who _can_ communicate with the public (Carl Sagan being the prime example) aren't "real" scientists, just as associate professors who make an effort to teach well in undergraduate classes aren't "real" scientists because they're taking time away from their research. Both these ideas are prevalent--and wrong. And by all means, let's make every presentation as interesting as the Kraken idea.
02:26 AM on 10/28/2011
Steve, I just cam home from a panel discussion of "No Dinosaurs in Heaven." Fun evening.

I think we disagree about creationists at GSA, unless there is a strong effort at the meeting to expose and refute creatocrap. We should also make every effort to document that the creationists, like Steve Austin, never make any presentations inconsistant with standard geology, and are lying to their church audiences when they claim they have won converts from the meetings.

PS: I thought the kraken idea was very creative.
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Arturo Ramrez
11:37 AM on 10/29/2011
"You do not really understand something unless you can explain it to your grandmother" Albert Einstein.

If Woody Allen can make jokes about Calabi Yau space, that means that even really complex scientific concepts can be explainable (without over-simplifying, that's why Discovery Channel gets to my nerves, they have a teleological view of evolution).
05:19 PM on 10/26/2011
I love it when someone ask me if I believe in _________ (evolution, global warming, etc. ) I know they have religion mixed up with science.
Science is about data. It is not a belief system. It is interpretation of data. Data points to possible answers.
Religion on the other hand is faith which has nothing to do with data or science.
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Steven Newton
08:56 PM on 10/27/2011
right, science is about _accepting_ ideas because of a preponderance of evidence
11:06 AM on 10/30/2011
I like your description here, and would add that data points lead to prediction of future results.

If you can get reproducibility, ie predict results, the social & political effect will be that a predictor can/ will censor whatever they want. Integrity is about not overreaching here, ie sensing your limits.

OTOH, religion (or any ideology) is about faith despite the absence of evidence - and obviously leads to error.
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MikeCm
Occupy Reality
12:48 PM on 10/26/2011
Here's Neil deGrasse Tyson's lecture "Naming Rights".

This is what happens when revelation replaces investigation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oxTMUTOz0w&feature=related