To Er Is Human
We've had the Birthers.
We've had the Baggers.
We've had the Deathers.
Now, In light of the IOC's slapping down of Obama's face to face bid for the Olympic games to be held in Chicago, we're now suffering the Smuggers.
Why, they sound almost cuddly, except for anything to be cuddled one must assume that thing capable of exuding warmth.
This latest group is merely a rebranding (or further classification) of people devoted to the sole purpose of defeating that guy who rightfully won a Democratic presidential election; a loose confederacy of street level strategists who are experts in the fields of clotheslining, kneecapping, smokescreening and all-out denying (also earning the honorary suffixation "ingers").
As a group, they are often confused with "Orers" and indeed many "Erer"'s have at one time or another been quite prodigious "Orers": jurors, conductors, matadors and--of course--chronic masturbators. But this is mainly a coincidence and should not in any way cause a furor.
No, these folks who have found meaning in their marginalization, who have turned their lemons into a batch of bitter, unsweetened lemonade, are once again wasting their loyalty--Wasters that they are--at the behest of their masters (Masters). Properly channeled, their unflinching party loyalty and awesomely terrifying zeal which distinguishes them from their ideological opponents would be more than enough to push through many an initiative benefiting America and humankind in general.
And then there's the Erers like me, the people who add the extra "er" denoting active participation within a defined group. But this isn't about me: Steven Weber.
Alas, befitting their ideological imperative, using their talents for positive effect as opposed to wanton obstruction just ain't in the cards. They are the epitome of--and Zeus forgive me--Sore Losers.
Sure, in some sense they are an amusement, fringe clowns with misspelled signs and Malaprop mentalities, enjoying their days in the sun courtesy of a media driven by salaciousness and spectacle and an audience keen to rubberneck when given their cue. When you really think about it, their toxic and divisive behavior, existentially speaking, is hilarious.
I tell you, those guys are killers!
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First, I am not a Republican ... In ordinary and sane circumstances I would love to see a US city host the Olympics. BUT ... This country is no longer ordinary, or in my opinion, sane. If the Olympics were held in this country with our paranoid TSA at all points of entry, we would end up with 6 million foreign sports fans in detention waiting to be screened as terrorists.
I though dissent was patriotic?
Oh I see, only when a Democrat disagrees with a Republican is dissent patriotic.
When a Republican disagrees with a Democrat, they must goosestep behind without objection.
Interesting.
Really? Because those of us who dissented against the war in Iraq and the loss of our civil liberties got the message loud and clear that we were the ones who were unpatriotic.
And by the way, there is a very big difference between honest dissent and obstructionism for no other reason than to see this president fail because you don't like him.
the Smuggers are pathetic --- Kristol, Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, Brooks and the rest of the GOP toadies cheered when Reagan, GH Bush went around lobbying for the US to get Olympic games even when their attempts failed
the republican's talking heads also didn't complain when GW Bush tried to win Olympic games for the US and failed it was barely noticed at the time, but in January 2008, then-President George W. Bush met with the Chicago 2016 Bid Committee and U.S. Olympic Committee members about bringing the 2016 summer games to the city and GW Bush gave a video presentation in support of New York's bid for 2012 Summer Olympics
www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2009_10/0...
www.stltoday.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=664004&start=12...
Soon, I'm afraid, something will happened. Something that changes everything. There won't be do-overs or second chances. This change will prove beyond the shadow of a doubt (finally) that progressives and liberals, lefties and hippies, and other assorted intelligent, empathetic, honest, caring, loving, and concerned, people had it right.
Yes, the world is about to sneeze, and it ain't god playing dice with the universe.....it's us playing dice with ourselves,and everything that makes life possible. Through ignorance, fear, stupidity, laziness, sloth, greed, prejudice, and more, we've brought it to this point. Once the forces of the universe kick in, we can point fingers and call it prophecy all we want, but some of us already know. We don't need to invent excuses. We can only keep trying to do the right things and hope, somehow ,we make it through.
As Mr. Weber so succinctly pointed out above, the absurdity of it all goes beyond the trappings of logic and reason , or even understanding, so why not laugh? It can't do any harm, no, on the contrary, it feels pretty good to laugh (out loud even) at these clowns. So laugh hard people, and laugh loud, real loud, point at them and go into a bent over belly aching whoopee. Do it now and be healthy my friends, for tomorrow , even that might be against the law.
You are correct, it is inevitable. The question remains, "How much damage will we do in the meantime?"
Why should Obama be cut a break. He spent tax money and c02 to fly to the event to promote the Olympics in his obvious home town which is special interest.
Reading the comments in the posts here the majority I see are "x is stupid" "x go read a book" "x is so dumb and we are smart". Constant demeaning and derogatory comments toward anyone who isn't part of the "club". If you don't like it when the right does it, why practice it here?
What goes around comes around. I don't see how the enlightened, intelligent liberals here think they can be as condescending as they please toward people while at the same time get a tiny slice of it handed back to them. The entire 8 years of Bush was the left hoping and publicly wanting him to fail. And try reading the Sarah Palin threads here. Nothing but repeating Palin is stupid 64200 times until people try to make the label stick.
If you want people to be nice, you have to be nice to them. Nearly every liberal I meet is condescending, rude and name calling and I am a classic liberal. I know its old fashioned but NICE really does work. Try it sometime.
"handed back"? you must've been in a coma the past eight years, as well as the last nine months.
the "dish it out but can't take it"-crowd is HILARIOUS.
as far as trying to "make the label stick", do you mean like "pallin' around with terrorists"? or "his reverend is a racist"? or "socialist"? "fascist"? "marxist"?
i LOVE the sound of a hit dog hollerin'.
Cute Steven, but not harsh or accurate enough.
Traitors.
And for the righties who squawk at that, are you really gonna try and tell me that if Dallas had been up for the Olympics during Bush's administration and liberals had exulted in Bush's failure to make that happen, that that is not what YOU would have been calling THEM?
Really?
Now, now Blackie, heal boy, no need for that language. After all, the Bushites were calling us "Traitor" too, remember? Good times.
As David Brooks noted in a recent NYT column, the radio talk show and cable TV nut jobs really don't wield as much influence as we might think. Voters repeatedly have ignored their hate based exhortations to react. While their vile smear tactics are hard to ignore because they're so extreme, most people are sane enough not to actually believe these freaks.
We need to understand that these destructive, anti democracy side shows pander to an angry fringe of society for the primary purpose of generating ad revenue. The more we react to them and recognize them as having any legitimacy whatsoever, the more value we give them and the companies that present them.
The sad reality is that there are 9 sore loser voices to every 1 progressive voice on talk radio.These overpaid corporate front men are cowards, but they have the microphone. They are debaters, but afraid to have the other position heard. This is why they are petrified of any Fairness Doctrine.
When you go to a debate and the other side can't speak it is easy to choose the facts you want to support your opinion. (see talk radio), however, if the whole story and all facts could be heard Americans would see what these clowns really are....hateful,overpaid, political hacks that front the special interests groups. W deserve better from our public airwaves and should demand that these cowards tell the whole story and be held accountable for lying and inciting hatred towards our Country, Govt and President, based on pure partisanship.
The conservative talk shows are afraid of hearing the other side? Hilarious! Liberals talk shows fail because no one wants to listen to liberal whining-not even liberals. These shows are entertainment shows (not news broadcasts) and the marketplace-the listeners and viewers-decides which ones succeed. A good product sells; a bad product doesn't. Don't you think that liberals need to take a hard look at their product?
As far as the fairness doctrine goes-it doesn't. It isn't fair. You can't force consumers to listen to shows they don't want. Liberals can't win fairly in the marketplace, so they want a law that says that half the product sold has to be liberal!
Here's a suggestion. Let's pass a law that says half the college professors, teachers, newspapers, broadcast networks, NPR, public television, etc., are conservative. Is that okay with you. That would be fair.
You sound like one of the reasonable, thoughtful type of conservative so I will attempt to respond in kind.
1. These liberal talk shows (which I don't watch either) arose precisely because of the factless bombast (and yes, the financial success) of the rabid right shows. It is no different than someone creating Burger King to compete with MacDonald's.
2. A good product sells, a bad product doesn't: So, by this standard a big mac is better than a charbroiled ribeye? Big macs should become the nutritional standard by which all other foodstuffs should be judged?
3. You can't force consumers to listen to shows they don't want. By this standard - many consumers of a 100 years ago would surely have wanted shows that portrayed black people chained and whipped and sleeping 20 to a house, and by your reasoning they should have got it.
4. College professors, teachers, newspapers, broadcast networks, NPR, public television, etc tend to be more liberal on the whole because they are educated. They know the difference between a Big Mac, whatever the Burger King equivalent is, and a ribeye.
"...no one wants to listen to liberal whining-not even liberals."
Question: Why do you think conservatives want to listen to conservative whining?
The fact is liberal talk radio can compete when given the chance. It's about ownership and trust-busting.
Try listening to Thom Hartmann. He doesn't whine and is very educational. Who knows, you might learn something. You are capable of learning, aren't you?
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These shows are entertainment shows (not news broadcasts) and the marketplace-the listeners and viewers-decides which ones succeed. A good product sells; a bad product doesn't. Don't you think that liberals need to take a hard look at their product?
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Not true. Rush Limbaugh gives away his putrid product for free--he doesn't sell it:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-mann/limbaughs-dirty-little-se_b_185965.html
Media losers are kept propped up on our public-owned airwaves and in the press by their corporate sugar daddies to spew their corporatist talking points and propaganda:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cenk-uygur/conservative-media-vs-pro_b_224073.html
- Tom
With all due respect, most liberals have better things to do. Someone recently looked at Fox numbers versus those of CNN and found that Fox viewers are glued to the screen most of the evening, whereas most liberals tune in for a few moments to hear the news and then tune out. Then again when you are opposed to everything it is easy to listen to blowhards and cheer them on, but when you care about improving the world you live in that seems like an infantile waste of time. I could be wrong and am open to hearing your beliefs on the subject.
These 'ers, as you call them, are so stupid they are funny. However, their language is getting increasingly violent which makes them not so funny any more. And they seem to be the last dregs of the GOP swirling around in the bowl until it gets unclogged—and finally flushed. (Hopefully soon)
People should just roll their eyes and stop listening to them. And the last thing this country needs is The Sarah Palin Show: another clown talk jockette who stirs up a frenzy of hate among stupid weak selfish racist anxious people who can't see she is working against them by taking lots of money for pushing GOP/corporate agenda, and then distracting the people while politicians/lobbyists/corporations go on their stealthy way laughing all the way to the bank.
The 'ers are like the weak, straggling part of the herd slowing it dangerously down. The rest of them need to shake them off and leave them behind.
You forgot the truthers. You know-the weirdos that think 9/11 was an inside job, George Bush's plot. It doesn't get any nuttier than that!
I think I finally figured all of this out. People who disagree with Obama really don't personally dislike Obama. He's actually very likeable. But I know lots of Steven Webers. They are really obnoxious. We're just taking it out on the President. Probably not fair to him but thats politics.
I personally dont mind the President going over and making a pitch...but to suggest this was not a F-up is wrong...THINK OF IT THIS WAY STEVEN: Your agent tells you that you have a part, you go meet with the producers, and they have you read? You would be pretty pissed....ot times that by a thousand...The President should not put himself in that situation. I was rooting for him, but the U.S.O.C. which Valarie Jarrett is on the board, screwd him.
Question-So if you think that the stimulus was wasted on pet projects, that the omnibus was nuts, that Cap&Trade can't be done in this economy (notice the left does not like to talk about the $1700 tax that will be seen by everyone -which I know is nothing for a guy like Mr. Weber), and that the health Care Bills math does not add up, especially after year 10...even the CBO says it wont, then you are a what again????
What are these people? http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=612
middleoftheroad: "notice the left does not like to talk about the $1700 tax that will be seen by everyone..."
From FactCheck.org: "Boehner, Sept. 20: 'It’s a cap-and-trade system, this big giant tax on the American people that this week, we just find out, the Treasury Department said will cost the average family $1,700 per year'. That’s not true. That estimate came from CBS News blogger Declan McCullagh, not the Treasury Department."
The Treasury Department memo that McCullagh is referencing doesn't contain the $1700 figure he's talking about. He made it up.
A little research can go a long way in keeping you from looking foolish.
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/09/boehner-and-the-cost-of-cap-and-trade/
Thanks for clearing that up. It also proves again that the republicants will say anything because their stoopid followers will believe anything they say.
See K.J. Dwyer's Profile
After the behavior of the United States (especially in the last eight years since 9/11), the last country on the face of the earth who deserves to host the Olympics -- an event celebrating sovereign nations' individual and collective excellence -- is the United States.
Moscow's Olympics suffered mightily when they took the decision to invade Afghanistan in 1979. 62 countries, led by the United States, boycotted the 1980 Games there, while a handful of others did not participate in the opening ceremonies. The United States has yet to experience anything in the way of international sanctions over its illegal, unjustified invasion of Iraq; not to mention the use of torture, which alone should automatically disqualify the United States from hosting any such international event.
Chicago's campaign for the Olympics was unseemly. Given our deserved disgrace in world opinion right now, we would do well to focus on cleaning up the mess we've made rather than trying to capitalize on international events celebrating values we have so notoriously degraded.
Obama's participation in the Chigaco campaign was a remarkably insensitive, callow and craven act of rehabilitating the image of the United States without first acknowledging and addressing our grievous international misconduct.
Many Americans were shocked that Chicago was disqualified on the first ballot. Having lived abroad for the last five years, believe me when I tell you, they were the only ones.
Right, because the venue is always awarded to the shining beacon of human rights and freedom.
I guess that explains China.
Hey sore loser-you voted for the people who disgraced this country twice. Shut your noise already, torture lover
Well, if it hasn't already been said, Steven had it half right.
They are their "Masters", and their "Baiters"....
Seems kinda right?..
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But above all else......they are dangerous.
Thoe "killers" couldn't get away with all the media attention etc if democrats showed some spine and stood up to them and realized in regard to healthcare reform with a publc option that the only way to treat these right-wingers is to shove that public option down their throats by a reconciliation vote. All 'criminals' have someone aiding and abetting them in some way, whether directly or through testimony about a criminal's good behavior and what a decent person the criminal is or was etc. Dems have aided and abetted all the sh*t that has come from republicans by raising a yellow standard in D.C. and the man who's supposed to lead the democratic party and who sis in the oval office is the maiin one responsible. WALl we get is double talk and practically every day about healthcare reform and seldom the mention of a public option any more and plenty of talk about "bipartisanship", something that doesn't exist. Obama should have had a plan that everyone understood and at least by last June. The only thing we're going to get in the end, and really in the 'end', is screwed.
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