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Halal Phobia in France

Posted: 03/03/10 12:15 PM ET

In France, Islamophobia is reaching new heights. A French town has recently filed a complaint against a fast food chain because the restaurant now prepares burgers from halal meat. One French politician warns against "Islamization" from eating halal meat. Apparently, eating meat killed according to Islamic butchering rules might make you Muslim. Beware.

The halal butchering rules were meant to promote health and humane treatment of animals. "Halal" means "permissible." Under halal butchering rules, the animal must be killed quickly by cutting its throat -- that was the quickest and most painless way in when the rules were developed over a thousand years ago. Additionally, it must be killed outside the presence of other animals. The words, "God is most caring, most forgiving," must be said before the animal is killed, to indicate that the animal is being killed for food and not sport. Torturing an animal is not allowed in Islam.

I fail to see the evil and subversive motive here in offering halal meat at restaurants.

Burgers made of halal meat should taste no different from those that are not halal. I cannot count the number of All-Beef Kosher hot dogs I've eaten, especially at baseball games. I don't feel "tainted" for having done so. I am still Muslim, and don't feel that part of me has become Jewish because I've eaten kosher food throughout my life. Indeed, Muslims have often preferred to eat kosher meat in the United States, rather than non-Kosher, because that is permissible, too. In fact, the Qur'an says that the food of Jews and Christians (except for specifically forbidden food, like pork) is permissible to eat.

It is therefore difficult for me to understand why non-Muslims would be averse to eating meat that was butchered according to halal rules that promote health and humane slaughtering.

But I suspect it's fear. Fear and politics. Fear of immigration -- which we have, too, in the United States, though it's directed more at immigration from Mexico -- and the politics that plays upon it. Right-wing pundits in the U.S. blame Mexican immigrants for everything from taking over our culture (Glenn Beck) to job loss to crime to leprosy (Lou Dobbs). Both fear and politics operate the same way in France, conveniently blaming all French social ills on Islam. Hence, the reaction toward halal.

It's not a new attitude, either. In 2003, Manuel Valls, the mayor of a Paris suburb, opposed a halal supermarket that did not sell pork or alcoholic beverages. He said, as the current litigants do, that the supermarket should have sold other kinds of meat, as well.

Should we apply the same logic and require Jewish delis to serve pork? Should vegetarian restaurants be sued because they discriminate against meat-eaters? Pastry shops because they serve almond croissants but no ham-and-cheese?

Discrimination against Muslim immigrants in France is very real. As Laila Lalami points out, while the unemployment rate for French university graduates is 5 percent, the unemployment rate for North-African French university graduates is 27 percent. Western portrayal of Muslims, she adds, focuses on the problems they cause and not the problems they face. Discussions are about Muslims, not with them. Protests against poverty are portrayed as "Muslim protests," and issues of civil liberties, like a woman's right to dress the way she wants, are portrayed as "Muslim" issues.

The problem is not Islam. American Muslims are proof that Islam does not prevent integration; a recent Pew poll described the American Muslim population as middle-class, mainstream, and moderate. No religion can survive, as Islam has, for 1400 years without being flexible and adaptable. Rather, the problem is the combination of socioeconomics, widespread ignorance of Muslim beliefs and practices, and fear of the other.

But until this is recognized, every action by Muslims and every action to accommodate Muslims -- like the fast-food chain serving halal meat -- will continue to be construed as threatening and hostile. In a world growing smaller by the day, this path is guaranteed to lead to conflict. I cannot imagine that this is the path on which any of us wish to be.

Sumbul Ali-Karamali is an attorney with an additional degree in Islamic law. She is the author of "The Muslim Next Door: the Qur'an, the Media, and that Veil Thing," (www.muslimnextdoor.com), a fun-to-read introduction to Islam and a Bronze Medal Winner of the 2009 Independent Publisher's Awards.

 
 
 
 
 
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12:12 PM on 03/05/2010
let us bring some semblance of objectivity into the situation.
The blogger accuses the mayor of Evry of Islamophobia.
Reality is that Evry's mayor, Manuel Valls, opposed supermarket refusal to sell French staple items (wine, for examaple) in the blighted area which has few supermarkets. therefore, non-Muslims poor especially those without cars will far to travel far to buy food.
Quote from the Mayor:
"We can't accept that neighbourhoods that are already at a disadvantage because of things like unemployment and poverty, be further disadvantaged by what we in France called 'ghettoization'
which is when a community turns inwards."
www.cbc.ca/world/story/2003/01/13/halalmarket030113.html#ixzz0hK3cmWJF

Certainly, this can be argued. But a blanket accusation of Islamophobia is made entirely too easily by Muslims hyper-vigilant about their religion.
12:55 AM on 03/05/2010
I don't get the big deal over this either. It's not as if all the restaurants are suddenly serving halal food or mandating it. Then I could see people getting upset. But this is the choice of a business and it's within their rights to do as they see fit....these restaurants are just catering to the demographics they think will be most profitable. Nothing wrong with the free market.
01:38 PM on 03/04/2010
"It is therefore difficult for me to understand why non-Muslims would be averse to eating meat that was butchered according to halal rules that promote health and humane slaughtering."

It is because they do not understand and are afraid in their ignorance. The town(which town?)'s actions are severely insensitive and wrongheaded.
11:05 AM on 03/04/2010
The nice thing about the US is that they can make no laws concerning religion ~ in Europe that is different. Muslim across Europe feel that the only way they can live in a country is to impose the Shari'a on the entire society.

And one of the ways they are doing this is through the anti-racist laws. It is 'racist' to challenge the Shari'a in many parts of Europe. Long held rights are being threatened.

Political Islam ~ is what has Europe so annoyed with Islam.

British TV Docu: Britain's Islamic Republic
http://en.sevenload.com/videos/3DoEQKD-Dispatches-britains-islamic-republic

EU & US Muslim immigrant ~ the difference is that most EU immigration comes from arranged marriages mainly to family members back in the old country ~ are often of a low education background ~ and they have been doing this for generations. EU governments are now cracking down on the every child is a passport practise.

Note: in this US ~ often honor killings are connected to these arranged marriages ~ so the US is simply behind Europe.

Why can't Muslims eat chicken that is not halal ~ demanding that the entire society eat chicken blessed by an Imam is a step too far!

I am glad France is standing up for its free Republic.
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KIVPossum
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06:02 AM on 03/04/2010
Are we still beating this horse?

If you go into a burger joint and order a bacon burger and they say they don't make bacon burgers, do you get mad? Nope, you get a burger, eat it and go about your business. What if they served halal meat and didn't tell you - would you notice? Of course not, unless you are a French politician, then you'd catch The Islam.
01:01 AM on 03/04/2010
"As Laila Lalami points out, while the unemployment rate for French university graduates is 5 percent, the unemployment rate for North-African French university graduates is 27 percent. Western portrayal of Muslims, she adds, focuses on the problems they cause and not the problems they face. Discussions are about Muslims, not with them."

Economic deprivation caused by inability to obtain & hold jobs is occurring across many societies, not only in Europe. This will always cause resentment, unrest, incitement, but the local govt. leaders should not capitalize on these emotions. (They certainly do in the USA, unfortunately.) Whatever the motivations of the French pols, the tendency of Muslim families to spend a large percentage of their budget on food is not missed by European marketeers who are retooling food producers to take into account Halal standards as many more Halal products are currently being sold, abroad as well as here in the USA.

P.S. Sumbul, I've got your book! It's great!
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LMPE
I connect the most dissimilar things
09:41 PM on 03/03/2010
It reminds one of the claims by the religious right that any exposure to gay culture will turn someone gay. Even after going to that gay strip club, I'm as heterosexual as ever.
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joeinvt
the human being and fish can coexist
09:00 PM on 03/03/2010
The complaints about halal burgers in France is ridiculous especially since the beef is likely to be better. Having said that, where is the reciprocity here? Saudi Arabia prohibits the import, use, or possession of any item that is held to be contrary to the tenets of the Islamic Faith. This includes non Islamic religious materials, pork, alcohol products and illicit drugs. The Saudi customs and postal officials widely define what is contrary to Islam and therefore prohibit it. Conviction for breaking alcohol, pork, and other prohibited articles to the Kingdom and preaching religions other than Islam may result in imprisonment. Any product that is related to pork even if it's not used as food like pig skin is still prohibited in Saudi Arabia.
02:10 AM on 03/04/2010
So humanely killing animals and higher quality food is against Christianity? Or is it against French law?
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joeinvt
the human being and fish can coexist
05:19 PM on 03/04/2010
Some people have a problem with pork products, some with halal foods. They are both nuts in my book when they try to prevent others from eating them simply because it offends their religious or cultural sensitivities.
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Derek Flood
07:59 PM on 03/03/2010
To me this talk is irrelevant because part of the beauty (or success) of living in an industrialized society is the freedom NOT to eat animals. How an animal is killed is immaterial in the larger context of the global environmental movement. Six odd billion people all consuming animals with no end in sight is highly unsustainable in nature. In lightly or medium populated pastoral or recently post-pastoral societies like Afghanistan or Kurdistan, I don't have a problem with people killing animals to survive but in the post-industrial West, be it in the US or the EU, it all adds up to conspicuous consumption in the aggregate not to mention unnecessary.
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TStringfellow
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03:12 AM on 03/04/2010
You're missing the point. It isn't about animal rights, it's about religious persecution.
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Aedh Wishes
05:37 AM on 03/04/2010
It's even more banale than that -- it's about votes.

Regional elections are coming up.
Not one customer complained when the restaurant switched to halal beef in November.
Then ultra-right politician Marine Le Pen made a fuss about it, the local mayor agreed, and -- hey presto -- halal was suddenly the thin end of the wedge, "undermining" French culture... way to get the "anti-immigration" vote.
07:24 PM on 03/03/2010
French politicians are right. I was once eating a sandwich while listening to Bon Jovi at Central Park West in 1980s accidentally. I immediately got converted from ABBAish pop to punk rock. I don't know how many Muslims I may have converted to that genre ever since then.

I say ban those Halal restaurants. French can easily become Muslims eating that food.
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Aedh Wishes
06:26 PM on 03/03/2010
What a storm in a teacup. The fast-food chain mentioned in the article introduced halal meat in 8 of its 362 restaurants back in November. Nobody was bothered and not a single complaint was made until Marine Le Pen decided to turn it into a convenient political football a couple of weeks ago in the run-up to regional elections -- and the local mayor jumped on board.
03:40 PM on 03/03/2010
Nothing wrong with ethnic food. This is an obvious over-reaction.
08:50 PM on 03/03/2010
We finally agree.
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03:06 PM on 03/03/2010
This sounds JUST like what the Spanish said back in the 15th Century about Jews. No Christian should eat food prepared by a Jew or it will lead to the Judaization of good and moral Spanish Christians.
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Aedh Wishes
06:18 PM on 03/03/2010
Excellent analogy. (Fanned)
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Talossa
Liberal. Pro-Israel. Recovering atheist.
02:24 PM on 03/03/2010
Can Palestinian opposition in the 19th and early 20th century to Jewish immigration be accurately described as "Judeophobia"?

It's funny when the shoe is on the other foot.
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03:07 PM on 03/03/2010
I would, wouldn't you? We tend to call it antisemitism though. People forget that many of the Palestinian leadership in Jerusalem between 1930-1940 were receiving money and training from the Nazis.
03:37 PM on 03/03/2010
Al Husseini, the head of Palestinian Council after WW2 was a ranking officer of SS.
05:48 PM on 03/03/2010
There was an SS regiment later division,... the Hanzar, made up of Muslim troops. Husseini was its ceremonial commander.
02:19 PM on 03/03/2010
"American Muslims are proof that Islam does not prevent integration."
Agreed.
Couple of possible reasons:
1.U.S. doesn't provide generous social benefits. This allows many European Muslim immigrants to live without having to learn the language of the host country and ignore the mainstream society altogether.
In U.S. immigrants must work, learn English and co exist with other people as a matter of survival.

2. Europe is inundated with foreign ultra-conservative mullahs and imams from Turkey, Saudi Arabia , Pakistan etc. This is especially true for Salafist missionaries. This phenomenon plays havoc with integration policies and prevents adaptation of European cultural values. In U.S. this phenomenon is less prevalent.

3.U.S. is a nation of immigrants. Those demostrably dedicated to ethics of work and education are genrally accepted into the mainstream.
Many countries in Europe ( with some exceptions) have had less experience with immigrants, especially opposed to European values and culture. there is a considerable push-back against immigrant minorities who are dismissive of European values and culture.

Notably--just as in U,.S.-- other Asian communities,(Chinese and Vietnamese) have been far more successful navigating European societies. Primary reason--- less religiosity.
02:54 PM on 03/03/2010
#1 Absolutely wrong.

#2 I think everyone is a nationalist in Europe.

#3 I won't deny it.

Your note is not off base either.
03:11 PM on 03/03/2010
#1. Have you ever been to Europe?
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Talossa
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04:59 PM on 03/03/2010
#2 French people wanting to eat French food in a French restaurant on the one hand, and radical Muslim clerics who call on their followers to "shed blood for Islam" on the other, are morally equivalent?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article2402973.ece
03:30 PM on 03/03/2010
two things that seem more likely to be salient.

1) Muslims in the US are not here because they used to be dependents of US colonization, nor or they here because they were invited in as cheap labor with the expectation that they would eventually go home.

2) The US vision of the melting pot does not require that groups surrender their national identity. While it is not unheard of for people in the US to complain that malls are putting aside space for muslims to pray, or that kosher seals on food drive up the cost (maybe as much as 1cent on a bottle of ketchup) this are recognizably fringe complaints.
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Talossa
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04:52 PM on 03/03/2010
How many malls have put aside space for Greek Orthodox to take communion, or for Mormons to baptize people?