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Should We Have Celebrated Osama Bin Laden's Death?

Posted: 05/02/11 09:11 PM ET

"In the Shambhala warrior tradition, we say you should only have to kill an enemy once every thousand years."
--Chogyam Trungpa

Osama bin Laden is dead. We killed him. It seemed there was no choice. We were clearly in an "us-or-them" situation, and if we didn't kill him, he was going to continue to do everything in his power to kill us.

As Buddhists, we are supposed to abhor all killing, but what do you do when someone is trying to kill you? Obviously, great theologians have pondered this question for millennia, and I'm not going to try to pile on with my point of view, which would be totally useless.

Instead, I'll pose this question: How do you kill your enemy in a way that puts a stop to violence rather than escalates it?

Strangely, I keep coming back to the same rather ordinary conclusion: the answer is in our ability to face our most intense emotions. When we know how to relate to our anger, hatred, despair and frustration fully and properly, they self-liberate. When we don't, when we can't tolerate them and therefore act them out, we create enormous sorrow and confusion.

Look at your own reaction this morning.

Was there even a hint of vengefulness or gladness at Osama bin Laden's death? If so, that is a real problem. Whatever suffering he may have experienced cannot reverse even one moment of the suffering he caused. If you believe his death is a form of compensation, you are deluded.

There has been an outpouring of misdirected jubilation, as if a contest had been won. Nothing has been won. Unlike winning a sporting event, this doesn't mean that our team has triumphed. Far from it. There is only one team, and it is us. When those of us (especially our leaders) who now foment violence choose instead to try to create peace, then we will truly have cause for celebration.

One of us is gone -- one apparently horrific, terrible, vicious person among us is gone. I don't feel regret for him or about this. I'm regretful for the rest of us who are now left thinking that this is a cause for celebration. It is not. It is a cause for sorrow at our continued inability to realize that there is no such thing as us-and-them, that whatever we do to cause harm to one will harm us all.

When we hate, we cause hate. When we think we have won by vanquishing our enemy, we have lost. In killing Osama bin Laden, "they" lose because one of their leaders is gone. But we lose, too, because we have deepened the causes and conditions that lead to more hatred and its consequences. This is not over.

So what do we do? I don't really know, but for me, rather than cheering on this day, I'm going to rededicate myself to the idea of brotherhood toward all, even those that want me dead -- and not because I'm some kind of really good person (I'm not), but because I know it's the only way to stay alive in the only kind of world I want to inhabit.

Perhaps the way to kill your enemy as a way of putting a stop to violence rather than escalating is to shift our view of "enemy" altogether. Our enemy is not one person or country or belief system. It is our unwillingness to feel the sorrow of others -- who are none other than us.

So take aim at this enemy completely and precisely. Feel your sadness for us and them so fully and completely that all boundaries are dissolved and we are left standing face to face, human to human, each feeling the other's rage and despair as our own, one world to care for.

"[W]hen you do not produce another force of hatred, the opposing force collapses."
--Chogyam Trungpa

If you'd like to try to generate such a switch, please try lovingkindness meditation. Here is audio instruction in the practice.

 
 
 

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"In the Shambhala warrior tradition, we say you should only have to kill an enemy once every thousand years." --Chogyam Trungpa Osama bin Laden is dead. We killed him. It seemed there was no choice. ...
"In the Shambhala warrior tradition, we say you should only have to kill an enemy once every thousand years." --Chogyam Trungpa Osama bin Laden is dead. We killed him. It seemed there was no choice. ...
 
 
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YrthWyndAndFyre
01:42 AM on 05/08/2011
If you are Buddhist, you know that all things have consequences. Bin Laden visited his hatred on the United States deliberately and in great abundance. His choice has had its consequence.

It is not, in my opinion, a thing to rejoice, but neither is it a thing to grieve. It is a thing. It occurred because it occurred. I am not so manifestly omniscient that I can say with confidence that it was good or bad. Perhaps he was himself a vehicle of kharma. That does not excuse, because he had other choices. Those who chose to kill him also had other choices, and now must likewise face their consequences. The wheel turns because it turns.

Concern yourself with the thing you can change, not the things you cannot. Maybe the world will never be as beautiful as you would like - or maybe it already is. Are you certain you would know either way?
11:06 AM on 05/05/2011
Dear Ms Piver, How can I thank you for putting into words what I was feeling. When I first heard of this situation regarding the death of Bin Laden I knew in my mind it had to happen this way but my heart was heavy with a sadness I couldn't quiet comprehend. I live in NYC so why wasn't I happy to hear about the end of this man who caused such sadness and heartfelt pain for so many. He shocked us all and for a very short time made us feel frightened at our vulnerability in our own homes..
Yet when I heard about the end of Bin Laden the other night I felt numb and realized I felt sad. Why? I couldn't think of any reason to feel sad about him. Reading your words helped me to understand the sadness I am feeling. I have been brought to a level I don't want to be at even if it is a necessity I hope and pray the retaliation will not be too great.
I praise the Navy Seals who undertook this mission and hope they do not lose that part of them that allows them to be sensitive to life because they had to take this one.
God bless America, all of us, and pray God show us the right path to follow through and keep freedom alive. We are examples to the rest of the world.
Thank you Ms Susan Piver for your words.
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Alison Rose Levy
Connect the Dots www.healthjournalist.com
07:39 AM on 05/05/2011
Dear Susan: Thank you for your post and it encouraged me to write my own response which is up today: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alison-rose-levy/osama-bin-laden-death_b_857332.html

The sense on the ground and in the city at that time is very different from seeing the whole thing on TV through the lens of media hype. This piece helped me to say that. Alison
10:35 PM on 05/04/2011
I think it's very easy to be self-righteous in your article. Even though bin Laden’s death does not end the fight it shows a nation’s resolve to defend the will of its people. I felt great satisfaction in the news of his death and even more so, a sense of pride in our country’s ability to methodically execute bin Laden with a mercenary-like professionalism. News of bin Laden’s death immediately brought back all the helplessness, disbelief, and rage felt in the aftermath of the September 11th attacks. One of the greatest articles I have ever read was Black Edition of TIME magazine advocating anger, not healing, in response to the attacks. I’m not a monster, but yes, I took extreme satisfaction knowing brave soldiers representing our people took life from this lowly excuse for a man.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1000762,00.html
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mercedes1947
GOP: "We don't got to show you no stinking facts."
08:08 PM on 05/04/2011
Susan,

This was the most stimulating debate I have enjoyed in a long time. Just mention peace and watch what happens. We have a ways to go. Still I prefer this path even though still a minority.
03:38 PM on 05/04/2011
It's a celebration of Justice. This is what we'd set out to do, isn't it? This murderer who perverted his religion is dead, and can never again murder or inspire murder. He lived by the sword, and he died by the sword. How many people would be alive today if this man had been killed in Tora Bora in 2001? We can all sleep a little bit sounder at night knowing he's dead. After nearly ten years, our troops can come home in victory. If there were any doubts about the planned Afghanistan pullout, they've been extinguished.
This is worth celebrating. Nobody is wrong to celebrate it. You don't have to if you don't want to, but don't you dare preach because we disagree with your oversimplified ethics.
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Susan Piver
Writer, Shambhala Buddhist teacher/student
04:31 PM on 05/04/2011
Ditto.
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Susan Piver
Writer, Shambhala Buddhist teacher/student
03:37 PM on 05/04/2011
Everyone, all I'm trying to say (without success, evidently) is the following:

I think we were totally justified in killing bin Laden. There was no choice. We did the right thing.

The "Should we have celebrated..." headline was not mine. The HuffPo editors wrote it and frankly I think it's a bit inflammatory. Not at all the point of my post.

I feel incredibly relieved that he is gone, mostly for the families who suffered losses on 9/11.

I totally support our right (and the need) to take military action to defend ourselves.

I believe that the only route to avoid such situations in the future is to develop compassionate relationships, even with our enemies.This is a very complex thing. It should only be attempted by grown-ups. Someone has got to go first. I suggest that we be that someone.

Most of all: I love our country. I love our President.

I desire peace above all things so that our children can live under different circumstances. Because right now, we're on a collision course for only more violence.

If this makes me a sanctimonious, arrogant, judgmental, cruel, holier-than-thou Mac user, then so be it. (Yes, one accusation leveled at me was that I am a Mac user.)
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Terrance Heath
Black. Gay. Father. Vegetarian. Buddhist. Liberal.
05:09 PM on 05/05/2011
I got what you were saying immediately. As I wrote in a post on my own blog, I was reminded of a banner I saw outside a church at the start of the Iraq war. It said, "How are you living your life to prevent the next war?" I had to stop and think about that before I understood it. Then I got it. We have to start by changing ourselves, and the part of the world that's in arms reach. That's what I felt you were trying to say.
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Nils Montan
Book Fanatic, Social Critic
07:58 PM on 05/05/2011
It took me a little while to grock what you are saying Susan, but now I completely get it. Sorry, I am a little slow sometime. You are completely right.
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michelesda
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02:33 PM on 05/04/2011
"Was there even a hint of vengefulness or gladness at Osama bin Laden's death? If so, that is a real problem... If you believe his death is a form of compensation, you are deluded."

Wow, incredible, the power of supposed religious convictions to make a simple issue complicated!
01:56 PM on 05/04/2011
This is not, not, NOT, about revenge! And it's not about hatred! It's about self-defense! In killing Osama bin Laden, we have won a major victory in a decades long war! Please stop preaching about the morality of it. These people celebrating were youngsters--how many of them even remember 9/11? How many were even alive at the time of the first WTC or the Embassy bombings in places like Kenya! I fail to see how we should feel sorrow at the passing of this monster. It needed be done, and we did it.
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mercedes1947
GOP: "We don't got to show you no stinking facts."
01:53 PM on 05/04/2011
Susan,

bin Laden continues to divide us. I have after some thought come to the place where celebrating his death is inappropriate.

But the evil in him is with us still. We are fighting and sniping at each other all over HP. Here is a quote from John McDevitt responding to my post about the real cost of bin Laden:

"But I have better things to do than read the blatherings of old women who most likely smell of cat food and kitty litter."

And this was the nice part. The post made it to comments activity, but did not make it to this board.

bin Laden has us - again - at each other. There is no reason to celebrate this man in life or in death.
01:29 PM on 05/04/2011
Susan,

You have my full support. I understand the anger people feel (i've felt it too), but the question is, "Do we want things to change IN THE FUTURE?" If we do, we have to go BEYOND emotion, to STRATEGY. Spiritual strategies work. That is why i love the quote you put at the end of your article:

[W]hen you do not produce another force of hatred, the opposing force collapses."
--Chogyam Trungpa

I give you credit for writing an article that was sure to be controversial, in the interest of expanding the conscientiousness of everyone, with the ultimate hope of spreading peace. We know what spreading hate does. We also know Gandhi positively affected a nation using a spiritual/peaceful strategy.
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Ed and Deb Shapiro
12:16 PM on 05/04/2011
LOS ANGELES — The Dalai Lama seems to suggest the United States was justified in killing Osama bin Laden.

Speaking Tuesday to about 3,000 students at the University of Southern California, the 75-year-old Tibetan leader says bin Laden, as a human being, may have deserved compassion and even forgiveness.

But the Los Angeles Times says the Dalai Lama added: "Forgiveness doesn't mean forget what happened."

He says it is sometimes necessary to take counter-measures.
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Terrance Heath
Black. Gay. Father. Vegetarian. Buddhist. Liberal.
05:18 PM on 05/05/2011
I'd agree with him. In this situation, given the man's capacity to destroy human life and the likelihood that he would do so again, it is necessary to stop him. Compassion does not mean allowing an individual to do harm to others. It is not compassionate to allow him an opportunity to kill.

What I appreciated most was that the president opted for a targeted surgical strike instead of bombing, because the latter would have lead to a greater loss of human life and less certainty about the mission's success. This is how I wish we'd done it in the first place, in 2002 when we knew he was at Tora Bora and wounded.

In the end, I think this was the best possible outcome. Maybe it's justice. I don't know. It can't bring back any of his victims, but if it disrupts any future attacks he was planning, then perhaps it stops him from creating more victims. That's enough for me.
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Cindy Tregan
Proud D.F.H. Lib'rul
11:59 AM on 05/04/2011
I also have mixed feelings. I understand the New Yorker's desire to celebrate that the person who orchestrated the 9/11/01 horror would never again orchestrate any such thing. I wasn't happy to see Americans acting like Palestinians did on 9/12/01, however. A bit of dignity would have been more appropriate, in MY opinion. Your mileage may vary.

However - what I felt when I heard the news was a form of "happy relief" - relief that a chapter in the hatred between East and West had been closed. Certainly the book is not finished, but again, never again with this monster have the opportunity to plan and execute more atrocities against ANY people, regardless of nationality, religion or race. And I do not accept that this feeling is in any way, shape, form or fashion "wrong".
11:09 AM on 05/04/2011
Susan,
Thank you for so aptly putting to words my complex emotions about this situation. Bravo!
Pier
08:08 AM on 05/04/2011
You are obviously a better person than I am even when you say you are not a good person. I honestly can't see myself rededicating to the idea of brotherhood to all specially when it comes to the death of someone who's actions have caused so much pain and sorrow. The lost of innocent lives, the price our men and women in the military and their families had paid and keep paying to this day is far too big for me to feel an ounce of sorrow. I rather feel sorrow for all the lives lost because of this man hatred. I feel sorrow for the sacrifice we military wives had to make having our husbands go to war, missing their kids first years. Some of them come back badly wounded physically and emotionally, others not so lucky come back in a coffin. I feel sadness for all the young people he has contaminated with his venom. Because of this man hatred we were throw into a war we were not looking for. Bad choices were made by our former president going into this war, yes but that doesn't change the fact that this man did horrible things to us as a nation. I can't judge those who were cheering in the streets because if it wasn't for the fact that we are overseas right now, serving our country, I'll be cheering on the streets as well. Your lack of empathy saddens me!
09:01 AM on 05/04/2011
*whose actions