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Mother-Daughter Relationships: Why Being Your Daughter's Best Friend Is a Bad Idea

Posted: 10/27/10 09:45 AM ET

While writing my book on the trials and tribulations of female friendship that came out last fall, several women spoke of the importance of setting an example for their daughters when it came to female bonds. For instance, if you, as the mother, are a jealous friend, a misery-lover, or a user, then you are setting a poor example for your daughter. If you are a sharer, a mirroring friend, or the authentic friend, then there is solace and safety in your friendships, and your daughter does well to consider you as her model. Either way, few of us can deny that female friendships are complicated for women of all ages. Certainly mothers and daughters alike strive to have healthy friendships among their peers, despite the obstacles. But what about another scenario, one in which mothers and daughters prefer to be in a friendship rather than a parent-child relationship?

Not that we haven't heard of it before, but this lack of hierarchy between mother and daughter is both a growing trend and a dicey proposition. Beyond that, there are mothers who consider this a successful way to go; in fact, a survey by Kelton research shows that 71 percent of women between the ages of 21 and 54 counted their mothers among their best friends. And while this might seem suitable for the mothers and daughters who subscribe to this concept, a pecking order between mother and daughter is actually a wiser and better balanced method of mothering than being enmeshed with our daughters. Still, mothers who choose the "BFF" route justify their actions. One mother, 35, with six-year-old twin girls, is an advocate. She told me that her daughters were her best friends and that she never wanted the mother-daughter relationship she'd had with her own mother. "My mother was in charge. She had all this power, and basically I did what she wanted. I vowed that one day I'd be a better mother if I had daughters. I'd be easier, lighter ... I'd do things with them."

Ironically in our culture, as our daughters need to feel safe now more than ever before, mothers consider the friendship role as an option, and to this end, they blur the boundaries and confuse the relationship. If you are busy being your daughter's friend, you certainly aren't protecting her, whether she is 10, 20 or 30 years old. It takes guts to stand one's ground on this topic; it takes courage to be a mother, to be harsher, stricter, tougher. One mother, 48, with a 17-year-old daughter, said that her decision to be a "drill sergeant" at times was "horrible but worth it." She says:

My daughter can't stand when I lay down the law or when I tell her what she has to do. She says the other mothers are nicer and act like friends to their daughters. They probably are nicer. But in the end, I think she respects me more for what I've done. Secretly, I would have preferred to be her pal. Why not? It's more fun. But I knew I had to be in charge, for her sake and mine.

Another advantage of mothers and daughters having a hierarchical relationship is that it also allows the mother and daughter to have age-appropriate friendships with their peers. Sure, there are times when it's enticing to be with your daughter the way you would be with a friend. Say you're a single mother and you have no plans on Saturday night and your daughter, 20, is home for the weekend from college and will spend time with you until about 10 p.m., when her night really begins and she goes out. It's tempting to fill your loneliness with her company, but deep down you know that it isn't in either of your best interests. If you can anticipate this scenario and can be honest with yourself, you'll avoid it. Instead, you'll call one of your friends and make a plan, just as your daughter has done, and in this way you won't jeopardize the mother-daughter bond or allow your daughter to feel guilty. The truth is, someone has to be the adult, and because you're the mother, it's you. That means that you respect your daughter's independence and she respects yours, and you have lives of your own, each with the friends you choose.

 
 
 

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While writing my book on the trials and tribulations of female friendship that came out last fall, several women spoke of the importance of setting an example for their daughters when it came to femal...
While writing my book on the trials and tribulations of female friendship that came out last fall, several women spoke of the importance of setting an example for their daughters when it came to femal...
 
 
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dancingstu
Christian, liberal lawyer
04:38 PM on 11/01/2010
If you and your daughter are "best friends", what happens when you're at an age where you both like the same guys? Is it cool for a guy to break up with mom and then date the daughter?
03:29 AM on 10/29/2010
Hmmm, as the adult child of a mother with very poor boundaries I have to say that I agree wholeheartedly that children need parents not "parental peers." In my mind it's not really about being a "drill sergeant," it's about not making your children feel responsible for your feelings. There's another term for making your child your BFF, it's called emotional incest.
02:27 AM on 10/29/2010
Does anyone think that it is the same for Father and Son?

Or are the male relationship dynamics much different?
03:14 PM on 10/29/2010
I think it's different for men as fathers and for boys as children. Fathers also have a different relationship with daughters than the mothers do - still fun and challenging and extremely important, but maybe less risk there of smothering the daughter with things that interfere with the daughter's ability to make her own friends. But the potential for emotional boundaries to be crossed, for a parent to be immature and selfish, to infringe on their child's childhood and childhood friendships of their own, etc. - that exists in any case.
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11:47 PM on 10/29/2010
As the mother of sons, I don't see the dynamics being that different. A Father should not sit down with a young son and talk with him as a friend. A Father is there to guide the child and he can say things to him that a Mother cannot. A Mother, however, has the same responsibility for guidance. She is not her son's peer and shouldn't try to be. I've seen Mothers tag along with their sons' friends and go dancing. That is totally inappropriate for both parents but particularly so for the Mother. It should be stated, however, that a Mother must take over as the male parent if that parent is not in the picture. One of my son's became sexually active while his Father was overseas on a six-month job assignment. I bought the condoms that his Father would have purchased had he been home. I put them on our son's bed and never said a word about them. That son is now 43 and he still talks about the day he understood his Mother wasn't totally out to lunch about sexual things!
11:45 PM on 10/28/2010
Brilliant and very true. I hope more mothers follow your advice.
10:03 PM on 10/28/2010
My daughter is in her 40s and I am 70. I see our relationship slowly changing - she to the more 'powerful' (if that is the word) as I age. She's very caring and protective of me - as I was of her when she was younger. We have a wonderful and close relationship. We live in the same city but not together tho we both wish we could afford a duplex or house with an in-law unit. I know I am not her best friend - I am more than that. I'm her mom . . . I'm the one person she can depend on no matter what. And I know the reverse is true. She's there for me (I'm a widow) when ever I need her. We have our own friends, our own lives - but do things together as well. We check in with each other every day to assure ourselves that all is well. We do favors for each other - help each other all the time. Her friends know me by virtue of holidays shared, etc. but I don't hang with them. We say 'I love you' to each other - all the time - and mean it. Yep, a mom is more than a best friend. So is a daughter.
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janejoad
01:24 AM on 10/29/2010
SO true! I do notice that since my daughters (38 & 27) have had children, they have become more powerful, and that's ok.

I've always told them, I am NOT your friend, I am your parent, YOU are not my peer. As your parent I have a responsilbility that affords me the right to know where you're going and with whom. I'm held accountable for you because you're a minor. Friends are not held accountable for your actions, but parents are.

I reminded them and their brother, when they each turned 18, that I was no longer required by law, to house, clothe, feed, or be responsible for their actions anymore, especially if they broke the law. That was the hardest thing for them to hear. They each said, "Well, I'm still your kid. " I laughed and said yes, you're still my kid. So, there was never any issue about being a friend or not, but it meant everything that I would still be their parent no matter how old they are. Your friends don't care if your eating a home cooked meal, or just need a hug.

I think these women who want to be friends with their kids , are STILL sort of children, determined not to conform, even when they become parents. So they rebel against their own childhood through their kids. But, I agree, a Mom is more than a best friend. so is a daughter. Fanned and Faved
02:26 AM on 10/29/2010
Congrats on what sounds like a very good and healthy relationship.
08:19 PM on 10/28/2010
"One mother, 35, with six-year-old twin girls, is an advocate. She told me that her daughters were her best friends and that she never wanted the mother-daughter relationship she'd had with her own mother."

This is unbelievably stupid and dangerous on this mother's part. Her daughters are SIX YEARS OLD!!! They are too young to be an adults best friends. They need kindness, but also direction and boundaries to be set AND enforced. And they may need a drill sergeant as well!! This mother sounds like a real twit to me. If she's really as dumb as she sounds, she will probably pay for her lax parenting soon enough.
03:49 PM on 10/28/2010
Male / 50, my sister just moved out of house after several years with her daughter, my niece of 14. I can say first hand that I've witnessed what NOT to do.

Moms being BFF are a VERY BAD idea.

Why ? I'll tell you briefly. The teenager doesn't see you as you see yourself. She sees you as a peer with strange values, bad taste and terrible jokes, and poor skin. Why in God's green earth would she listen to you when it comes to advice, or help or guidance or safety ? Here's a hint : She wont. EVER.

Be an adult, suck it up, your in charge and its your responsibility what happens to her. Your investing in creating a person with better character than you. That takes great work and diligent discipline and focus.

You can't help her if she's your peer.

You might feel better about YOUR life and you would have created a friend for you to eat popcorn and watch movies but lets be adults for a second and face realty : YOUR BEING LAZY. GO GET YOUR OWN FRIENDS.

If you do it all right, she'll grow to be your BFF and maybe help you when your both older. She's not a pet she's a human. Your prepare her and kick ass out of the nest and pray she flies. Better than we did. Thats your blessing thats your job.
11:46 PM on 10/28/2010
Agree...agree...agree!
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Gneirre
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02:20 PM on 10/28/2010
My job is to parent not to be your friend. My job is.....

1. to tell you "no, you can't get your way" so that you will be prepared for this world of disappointments. I can not have you live in a world where you think your words and wishes will be tended to every minute.

2. to tell you that you can not and better not go out wearing what you think YOU should wear because that's what your friends are wearing. You will be judged on your appearance. If you look loose, you will be treated loose. Respect yourself and dress respectfully; then others will respect you.

3. to let you know that nothing you can think of or do will ever go unnoticed. Yes, I will smile with delight at all of your accomplishments and awards. No one will be your biggest fan, but don't think you can pull the wool over my eyes either.

4. to give you love and support. No matter what happens in this world, I am your mother and I will always love you...NO MATTER WHAT! Friends are not always this loyal.

I am your mother not your friend. I don't want to be your friend, I love you more than that. My discipline comes with love, my rules are for your own good. I am your mother, your fan, your audience, and your cheering section...and that will never change.
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rbot
03:09 PM on 10/28/2010
As the mother of two very young daughters, your words give me hope for fighting these battles in the future. I think your approach is outstanding, thank you for sharing! F&F
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03:22 PM on 10/28/2010
I completely agree with you.... while your children are children. But once they become adults, that all changes, or at least from my experience as a daughter.
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01:08 PM on 10/28/2010
One of the first lessons good teachers learn: that you aren't there to be friends with your students but to help them grow and mature as learners. That's why teachers are expected to be adults, with a greater base of knowledge and experience than their pupils.

The same is true of parenting. Typically people see teen parenting as a less than optimal situation, because teens aren't ready to be parents. They are still children themselves and haven't had the experiences that lead one to be a good parent. So why should an "adult" who does have this knowledge base think that he or she should be on an equal level with his or her own child? This discounts the experience and learning a parent should bring to the table, and ignores that the child, even a teenage child doesn't have that knowledge yet.

My son is ten, and I am continually frustrated by the number of classmates he has that are in this "parents as friends" situation. A parent is there to guide, and doing so sometimes means taking the reins or doing things that are less than popular.
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robjh1
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10:58 AM on 10/28/2010
A bad idea when the mother starts competing with the daughter for dates.
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Lisa Shields
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07:45 AM on 10/28/2010
This AGAIN?

As a woman who had to deal with a mother with Narcissistic Personality disorder, who frequently said "I'm not your friend, I'm your MOTHER"...then proceeded to be neither, I find the concept confusing.

I made myself available to my daughter. I knew that there were questions I could answer, and preferred she be able to trust me. I am honored that she counts me as a friend...but always I am her mom. To tell a child that they are not "your friend" is damaging, in my opinion, and can lead to major disconnects when a parent is actually needed.

So far, its worked well. I don't have to play detective if my daughter has issues. I also don't have to play 20 questions to figure out how and IF I can help. But for the most part, I let her determine if she needs me in "mom" mode...or not. I have parented so far by going EVERYTHING the opposite of my controlling mother. The results have been amazing.
09:45 AM on 10/28/2010
I share your frustration with articles like this. I think it's probably to get parents riled up for increased post hit counts.

Anyway, it sounds like you have found a way to connect with your daughter and build trust. Only good things can come of this. Your daughter is very lucky to have you as a mom.
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07:46 PM on 10/28/2010
Exactly! Every mother/daughter relationship is different. But all should lead toward the daughter becoming a strong, independent woman. My daughters and I are now very good friends.

I did not have a good relationship with my mother, but have amazing relationships with my (now) grown daughters. Like you--I used my mother's example of how not to treat one's children.
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06:03 AM on 10/28/2010
Interesting topic.

My partner is the one who the family rightly considers the center of everything, while I am the one that everyone depends on, but feels safe in getting mad at. Everyone in our family knows that they are safe letting their anger out at me, and that ability to let off steam helps to keep things healthy. Strange, huh?
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midwesthousewife
11:41 PM on 10/28/2010
Sounds tough for you. Your family is lucky to have you so accepting of an arrangement which seems to benefit the whole while at a personal cost to you.
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BlueZoo
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11:53 PM on 10/29/2010
You have horrific self-esteem issues and I fear for your mental and physical health. If you believe your partner should "rightly" be considered the center of everything while everyone vents their anger on you, you should seek help. There is only so much that the human mind (and heart) can take before they both break down, and you are headed in that direction. While everyone gets "healthy" letting their anger out on you, you are getting sicker and sicker. You might not realize this yet but there will come a day when you are going to ask yourself WHY!
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kbella
04:07 AM on 10/28/2010
I think it's important to have the hierarchy when your daughter is still considered a child. I know I needed the drill sargent from time to time. Now that I am 25, married and independent, we have a much more friendly relationship. I don't think I'll ever be best friends with my mom; our relationship just isn't like that. But, I do have friends who have grown into friendships with their moms as they have become adults, and it doesn't seem to be a problem.
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bthechangeyouseek
08:58 AM on 10/28/2010
I agree with you that a mother and daughter's relationship changes as the daughter or son grows. My daughter and I are very close. As my children grow older, I have become more of a mentor than a boss. Offering advice only when asked. I hope that I have modeled the behaviors early that my children will use in life. I go shopping with my daughter, hit the movies early on a weekend and take time to cultivate hobbies that we enjoy together. But I don't infringe upon her time with friends nor do I shop the juniors section for clothing.

I think some mom's don't know where to draw the line and it's become more of a competition of sorts with their children.
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martigras
01:12 AM on 10/28/2010
Once a daughter passes into adulthood, is it really necessary to have a hierarchical relationship?
If you have done a good job of raising your child, she should have the maturity and self confidence to guide her own life.
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bthechangeyouseek
09:00 AM on 10/28/2010
I think as you both grow older, you role changes to guidance rather than directives.
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scodwyer
05:25 PM on 10/30/2010
I could not have said it better. My daughters are 13 and 14 and I am 51. I have a much healthier open relationship with them than I ever did with my mother growing up. However when I got into my mid 20's their was less of a hierarchy and more of a friendship. She did not interfere in my life unless I asked for help or advice. THat is the way it ideally should be I think. I am very happy my daughters can talk to me more than I could my mom growing up. I realize that they do and will hold back, especially through the adolescent years, but they know they can come to me with any issue without judgement.
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07:47 PM on 10/28/2010
Excellent post--in a nutshell.
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crom14
10:51 PM on 10/27/2010
My Thirty year old daughter is my best friend. She is kind, sweet, warm and loving. Why would I not choose her to be my best friend? We have fun, laugh and celebrate life together. So blessed!
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midwesthousewife
11:51 PM on 10/28/2010
Well, I can think of one reason. My mother died when I was 27. She was so much more than my mother--my best friend and my biggest cheerleader. She was also an amazing woman--it was standing room only at her funeral. But the loss of her was truly devastating to me, for years afterwards. All that I treasured in our relationship only became a source of intense pain to recall. Thirty years later, I'm still not sure how to process it. Rightly or wrongly, I have kept more of a separateness between myself and my daughter as a result. I don't want my children to be as affected by my death as I was by my mother's.
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crom14
09:57 AM on 10/29/2010
I'm sending you a hug. I understand your pain, I lost my only sister twenty three years ago. The loss left me in sadness for a very long time. Recently I have been abel to let go of much of the pain. We grieve as much as we loved. I hope for your daughter that you can let go of the pain and embrace your Mom in spirit to guide you to eventually be best friends with your daughter. I have lost my Mom to mental illness and it has been a very long road to getting where I am. I'm learning to live in the moment and it is wonderful.