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Define 'Charity,' Define 'Humanity'

Posted: 05/07/2012 1:57 pm

On his April 27 broadcast of "Real Time" on HBO, while challenging whether the Mormon Church is a charity, Bill Maher told viewers that donating to the arts also does not qualify as charitable giving. He brought up the Walt Disney Concert Hall in Los Angeles, and how people who give to it get tax deductions for their charitable giving. He argued that this, too, does not qualify as a charity, because "unlike food and water, access to Mozart is not a basic human necessity."

I did not initially see the show since HBO is available only to those who pay to subscribe, but I saw some of it online. It has been eating at me all week. As a person who depends on the not-for-profit sector for my livelihood and for my connection with a world larger than myself, I find it disappointing to hear this line of reason coming from Mr. Maher.

The few times I have seen his show I have often been entertained by him and in agreement with his logic. I do not wish to and am not qualified to argue the tax status of religious organizations. Needless to say, I also do not want to get into a "pissing fight with a skunk."

However, I am qualified to share what I think of the arts and of non-profit arts organizations and their place in our society. I might add that unlike commercial art endeavors -- Broadway, movies, or commercial music -- the non-profit arts for the most part are devoid of greed, excessive income, and the obsession with the bottom line. As a matter of fact, many end the fiscal year in the red. They always have but at another time they were still considered "worth it" and donors stepped up to the plate rather than lose the group.

We artists are in this world to make a difference and rarely do it solely for the money. The majority of arts organizations survive with small budgets and depend on volunteers. Many are grass roots groups in small communities. They are light years away from commercial art yet they make a big impact. Certainly, I have been fortunate enough to work for large budget organizations but if I had remained at a grass roots level my motivation would be the same.

In 2009 Michelle Obama gave a speech in Pittsburgh:

It is through our music, our literature, our art, drama and dance that we tell the story of our past and we express our hopes for the future. Our artists challenge our assumptions in ways that many cannot and do not. They expand our understandings, and push us to view our world in new and very unexpected ways...


It's through this constant exchange -- this process of taking and giving, this process of borrowing and creating -- that we learn from each other and we inspire each other. It is a form of diplomacy in which we can all take part... And... people who might not speak a single word of the same language, who might not have a single shared experience, might still be drawn together when their hearts are lifted by the notes of a song, or their souls are stirred by a vision on a canvas.

That is the power of the arts -- to remind us of what we each have to offer, and what we all have in common; to help us understand our history and imagine our future; to give us hope in the moments of struggle; and to bring us together when nothing else will...

Trying to find my own words to express the same thoughts, I am not as eloquent as the First Lady, and for that matter nor am I as ironic or witty as Bill Maher.

I have always been amazed by charitable giving, especially by incredibly generous donors. We never had much money when I was growing up so we volunteered rather than making financial donations. Sometimes I have been guilty of wondering why people give to the arts when there are so many causes directly addressing the basic needs of human beings. I even struggle with this when making my own donations. But the idea of giving anything freely -- time, money, attention, goods -- is a one to be encouraged, not discouraged. Where one gives is a personal choice and most causes are worthy.

Many people find peace and solace through the arts. Music and art therapy are noble professions that help so many. There is a reason for this: the arts are a reflection of humanity and for many are a basic emotional need. If we only look at all humans as only needing food, water, and shelter, we are diminishing not only ourselves but also those we intend to aid.

The Oxford English Dictionary online defines charity as:

1. an organization set up to provide help and raise money for those in need: the charity provides practical help for homeless people [mass noun] the body of organizations viewed collectively as the object of fundraising or of donations: the proceeds of the sale will go to charity 2. [mass noun] the voluntary giving of help, typically in the form of money, to those in need: the care of the poor must not be left to private charity help or money given to those in need: an unemployed teacher living on charity 3 [mass noun] kindness and tolerance in judging others: she found it hard to look on her mother with much charity 4. archaic love of humankind, typically in a Christian context: faith, hope, and charity

I suppose if Bill Maher was using the OED definition he might glean that the arts are not a charity. Many folks do fund the arts and take a charitable deduction. Some fund the arts and choose not to take the deduction. My own parents never declared to the IRS their contributions to their church or other charities, as they felt it was the antithesis of altruism. That said, if people want to be generous to the arts and are benefited or even motivated by the tax deduction, more power to them. OED definition of altruism -- disinterested and selfless concern for the well-being of others:

For the record, the IRS website states:
Generally, organizations that are classified as public charities are those that
• Are churches, hospitals, qualified medical research organizations affiliated with hospitals, schools, colleges and universities,
• Have an active program of fundraising and receive contributions from many sources, including the general public, governmental agencies, corporations, private foundations or other public charities,
• Receive income from the conduct of activities in furtherance of the organization's exempt purposes, or
• Actively function in a supporting relationship to one or more existing public charities.

The Merriam Webster online dictionary defines charity as:

1: benevolent goodwill toward or love of humanity
2a: generosity and helpfulness especially toward the needy or suffering; also: aid given to those in need
b: an institution engaged in relief of the poor c : public provision for the relief of the needy
3a: a gift for public benevolent purposes, b: an institution (as a hospital) founded by such a gift
4: lenient judgment of others

The arts go back to early civilization, a word rooted in the latin: "civis" -- "citizen". Let me share the definition of civilization from the OED online:

1. the stage of human social development and organization which is considered most advanced 2. the process by which a society or place reaches an advanced stage of social development and organization. 3. the society, culture, and way of life of a particular area 4. the comfort and convenience of modern life, regarded as available only in towns and cities

Perhaps through the arts we as citizens can realize a larger picture of humanity and need in our world and our place in society. The arts can span an infinite number of topics and ideas. The arts can actually give some people a sense of purpose. Even better, the arts can soothe a troubled soul by putting things in perspective. For some, the type of self-expression that is an intrinsic part of music, art, drama, comedy and dance is a basic human need.

Unlike food and water, access to Mozart may not a basic human necessity, but why should we limit ourselves to basic human necessity when we are a socially developed and civic-minded society? I rather like the first definition of charity in the Merriam Webster: "benevolent goodwill toward or love of humanity."

The OED definition of humanity is:

1. human beings collectively; the state of being human 2. the quality of being humane; benevolence 3 (humanities) learning concerned with human culture, especially literature, history, art, music, and philosophy.

'Nuff said.

 

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On his April 27 broadcast of "Real Time" on HBO, while challenging whether the Mormon Church is a charity, Bill Maher told viewers that donating to the arts also does not qualify as charitable giving.
On his April 27 broadcast of "Real Time" on HBO, while challenging whether the Mormon Church is a charity, Bill Maher told viewers that donating to the arts also does not qualify as charitable giving.
 
 
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Melissa Ausua
Seriously, GOP? Seriously?
04:14 PM on 05/11/2012
I have not seen the actual argument, but it seems to me that, as long as an arts oganization is giving back to the community in some way, it should qualify as a charity. Offering these experiences at a lower cost for low-income families could really make a difference in some kids' lives. It would expand their knowledge of the world and maybe even inspire them.
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Marco De Leon
11:40 PM on 05/11/2012
That wasn't the argument.
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VIXIN
You cannot BAN the truth.....
09:22 PM on 05/15/2012
You know, if you apply the Stand Your Ground Law.

But, it wouldn't be self serving for you, so I imagine you'll just ignore that."

GZ s version is that he lost sight of
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bjdzyak
11:39 AM on 05/11/2012
Hobbies should not be tax deductible and religion is just another hobby for people to "do" on Sundays while they use the rest of the week to get as much cash out of others as possible. Rmoney is the perfect example of hypocrisy in action. The very definition of a multi-millionaire is someone who HAS millions of dollars. If he truly cared about others in a charitable way, he'd be a pauper, having given away his fortune to others in need. But he and many CONservatives aren't... they are wealthy beyond imagination and then claim to be more charitable than Liberals. I don't get to deduct my hobbies... neither should religious zealots. That was Bill Maher's point.
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Melissa Ausua
Seriously, GOP? Seriously?
04:06 PM on 05/11/2012
Churches do more than give people something to do in their spare time. There is a reason they qualify as non-profits. If you knew anything about either churches or non-profits, you'd understand this.
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Marco De Leon
11:39 PM on 05/11/2012
Have you even heard of Vatican City?

Have you even seen some of the churches, cathedrals, tabernacles, temples, and super churches? They didn't build themselves, and they didn't come free.

Everytime you see one of these gorgeous buildings, ask yourself how many starving children it could have fed.

Jesus would be extremely ashamed if he were around today to see that they have built these great and costly buildings in his name while so many people go wanting from basic necessities every single day.
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Marco De Leon
11:31 AM on 05/11/2012
I think I have to go with Maher on this.

Now, I don't want to come across as someone who doesn't like the arts or sees it as unnecessary. As a matter of fact, I love the arts. To the point, on Wednesday I spent the entire day listening to Mozart's Requiem while I did my work.

I frequently visit the museums with my four year old daughter to teach her how to appreciate the arts, and I often play classical music to her to expose her to the great composers in music history.

But, we have to be objective and ask ourselves, especially in these dire times, where there is a greater need. And, I think this is what Maher was trying to get at. As much as I love the arts, helping those who are hungry or in need of medical attention is much, much more important than the arts will ever be.

I don't think he was saying that people should not donate to the arts. He just pointed out that the absurdity of building a multi-million dollar building for the arts while people starve and die from lack of medical attention.
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Melissa Ausua
Seriously, GOP? Seriously?
04:08 PM on 05/11/2012
People will starve and lack medical attention with or without the arts.
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Marco De Leon
11:29 PM on 05/11/2012
True.  But, honestly, is it ethical to build a 40 million dollar building to have a few concerts a year when there are children that are starving in our very own country, people in dire need of medical attention, and schools that can't afford to pay teachers?
If you can say that it is ethical to do so, then you've just welcomed yourself into that elite echelon of our country's society.
No one is saying that we need to do away with the arts, not even close.  Maher didn't say that and he didn't even insinuate that.
What he did say is that the wealthy would better using their monies as tax deductions by donating them to charities that help those in need, rather than donating to entities that will only benefit them and those like them.
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JungleBoi Tee
11:28 AM on 05/11/2012
Forget dictionary definitions, they're not going to help here. Yes, of course, the arts remind us of what we each have to offer and inspire us to be better humans. They do that - and a lot more.

If you die from hunger or sickness that could have been prevented, you're not around to be inspired.

Isn't part of the point of the Arts that Human life is sacred? We should not incentivize giving to the arts at the same level as feeding the hungry, treating the sick.

They are simply not the same.
11:22 AM on 05/11/2012
I too am conflicted by these arguments having worked in philanthropy and nonprofits for most of my career and was often distressed that the Opera or Symphony would receive millions of dollars while social service agencies would be lucky to receive $10,000 or $20,000.

Perhaps the distinction should be between the capital "A" Arts and the other "arts." For example, if an arts organization organizes free or low-cost showings to their community or outreach to schools or exposure for artists building their careers, it feels very different to me than larger arts organizations that can be argued are more like a business. They charge high ticket prices that exclude the majority of people from attending and rarely offer much in the way of public programming.

The YMCA was in a trouble a while back because gyms thought they were being offered an unfair business advantage in using their nonprofit status to unfairly offer more reasonable fees while discontinuing many of their social welfare oriented programming.

It seems to me a similar argument might be made for organizations like operas and symphonies. Are they much different the hollywood movies or television? They too serve an "arts" purpose in society but they rely on adverstising dollars for their sustainance.

Not sure of the solution but I certainly can see the problem Bill has with "Castle building."
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jmorgan1981
Veni, Vidi, Vici.
10:35 AM on 05/11/2012
He wasn't arguing that people should not give to these causes, he was arguing on whether or not people should be able to subsidize these interests with their tax dollars, in other words deducting those contributions from their taxes.

I donate money to college scholarships, however, I do not take deductions on those contributions. I certainly could, but I am not interested in subsidizing it, because I believe that both have intrinsic reasons for being paid.
10:29 AM on 05/11/2012
He isn't saying you shouldn't donate to the arts he's saying you shouldn't get a tax credit for donating to something you enjoy or you find as a hobby. You aren't giving money to feed the homeless or get water to a 3rd world country you are giving money to keep a symphony going or a theater that you frequent open its different than a charitable donation. Charity is something we do to help those in need those who cannot fend for themselves those who don't have the means to do so on their own. So he's not saying abandon the arts don't give your money to them but he's saying you shouldn't get a tax credit for doing so and I'm a huge supporter of the arts and would give my money not expecting anything in return because I believe in it as should anyone else who loves the arts. Not having a tax credit wouldn't deter me from doing so and I doubt anyone who gives that large amount of money would stop giving it if they couldn't get a tax credit many do it for the love of the arts not for the credit.
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TeamSanity
strong emotions don't equate strong arguments
03:49 AM on 05/10/2012
It's like any other rigged game. I gladly contribute $ to art that will not continue without these monies. I get nothing directly out of it, but the intangible knowledge that art must be maintained is more than worth what little I give.

When rich people give, they act as the patrons of old, and God Bless Them! Nevertheless, I've worked in these circles, and the contributions seem to be the guilt money for the fabulous parties, expense accounts, political favors ... the rich do support the arts, but they get a ***** lot out of their efforts. A whole lot more than my metaphysical pleasure. They get tax breaks and political favors and the potentially guilt-free opportunity to spend tons of money on self-indulgent parties.
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Mallika Rao
05:38 PM on 05/10/2012
Thanks for your comment! With the perspective you have, do you think its worthwhile to consider streamlining arts funding so we don't rely on patrons who, as you say, might use their charity to justify other behavior that's bad for us economically?
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BigLittle
06:33 PM on 05/09/2012
The definition of "charity" that counts is one the taxman uses. The tax code carries lots and lots of "charities" that would no doubt offend Maher, but, what doesn't offend him? Like his clones both right and left, being offended is how he makes HIS profit.
WishfulThinkingRulesAll
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02:05 PM on 05/09/2012
Charity is obviously going to mean different things to different people. I personally think classifying donations to religions as charity as foolish. If an actual charitable organization (let's say for example, Doctors Without Borders) only spent 5 cents of every dollar on helping others, with the rest on 'overhead' they would be shamed out of existence. But when a church does this (by using 95% of the funds to pay for salaries and buildings for themselves) people consider it charity? I don't think so. On the other hand, some folks think a bigger Church organization, with more buildings and more shiny temples, is a worthwhile charitable cause, since potentially more people will join their faith.
01:24 PM on 05/10/2012
It does mean different things to different people, I agree with you there. Your explanation is a perfect example :D
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Melanie226
Former Riotgrrl & Current Jewish Suburb Mom
01:17 PM on 05/09/2012
I have worked in the nonprofit sector for over a dozen years, and I didn't agree with Bill's rant against the arts, either. Yes, Mozart is not a basic need, but the majority of the arts institutions also have educational outreach components. Arts programs are being cut from schools throughout the U.S., and reputable institutions such as Stanford have released studies showing that students with exposure to arts programs do far better in school than those who are relegated to the 3 Rs. Arts nonprofits are picking up the pieces that are being cut from public schools and it is more important now than ever to support the arts.
01:24 PM on 05/08/2012
I agree completely with Susanne. The organization I work for issued a report authored by Holly Sidford titled Fusing Arts, Culture and Social Change, the third in our series of High Impact Strategies for Philanthropy. Sidford makes a compelling case as to how the arts are a powerful means to overcome differences, identify ourselves and foster a sense of community. The report also notes the imbalance of funding, highlighting the fact that large national arts organizations garner the lion’s share of available funding while grassroots artists and organizations remain a low priority. While I usually find Maher rather entertaining, I disagree with his perpetuation of the notion that arts are ā€˜frill’ and serve only elite interests. There is a strong connection between arts and social justice, and a need for more funding - public and philanthropic - for community-based arts and culture organizations and individual artists.
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Gazelle Emami
Culture editor, The Huffington Post
05:31 PM on 05/10/2012
Thanks for your comment. I'm curious your thoughts on how we should decide what arts organizations we give to should qualify as charitable. Do you think this applies to all non-profit arts groups?
09:19 AM on 05/14/2012
Thanks for your question. I'd like to invite you to read the executive summary (http://www.ncrp.org/files/publications/Fusing_Arts_Culture_and_Social_Change-ExecSummary.pdf) or the full report (http://www.ncrp.org/files/publications/Fusing_Arts_Culture_and_Social_Change.pdf that Holly wrote for us. The data in it suggest a misalignment of the way arts and culture funding, including philanthropy, are provided. Holly cites data from the NEA about the demographics of public participation in the arts. Members of the public who attended classical music concerts, the composition was close to three times as many white people compared to African Americans and for musical and non-musical plays, that figure for whites was about double than that of Hispanics. Using information from the Cultural Data Project as analyzed by San Francisco Grants for the Arts in an informal study showed that Bay Area groups that have budgets of less than $250,000, on average, received 24 percent of their contributed revenue from public sources compared to 6 percent of revenue for groups that have budgets larger than $1 million. (more below)
09:20 AM on 05/14/2012
To answer your question, I think it's important for all arts organizations to receive both public and philanthropic funds but they should be provided with some intentionality regarding a) the budget size of the organization b) the demographics of the populations that they serve and c) to the groups doing work on evolving aesthetic and arts forms she mentions. In short, there is an opportunity for philanthropy to contribute to a more equitable participation in the arts that reflects the evolution of our society and especially because of the cuts in public funding, philanthropists should engage in some critical self-reflection of their funding priorities. Please feel free to ask more questions and/or to also post anything on our blog (http://blog.ncrp.org/) should you like to do so. Thanks.
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Marco De Leon
11:45 AM on 05/11/2012
I'll preface what I'm about to say that I LOVE the Arts.

But, in defense of Maher, many times the arts can seem to be rather elite.

For example, one ticket alone to see the symphony will put me out $75. When you add my wife and daughter, that's a whopping $225 for one night. Meanwhile, a night out at the movies will set me back less than $50.

The fact is, the general populace, more often than not, can't afford to to take part of the arts because the cost is prohibitive. So, only those with the means to purchase those tickets can enjoy the events.

Maybe the best way to shed the "elite" is to make events more accessible to the general populace.
10:22 AM on 05/14/2012
I agree with you that the arts can seem rather elite and that the costs are often prohibitive. That said, I also agree with you that one of the ways arts and culture can be made less elite is by making them more available and accessible to the poor and other historically underserved communities because the arts, as noted in other comments, contribute to, e.g., better learning and thus better future earnings potential. The way that public and philanthropic support for the arts are currently provided are seemingly not attuned to the economic, demographic and aesthetic evolutions in our society as Holly Sidford notes in the report she authored for us which I invite you to read: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/susanne-mentzer/bill-maher-charity_b_1492085.html. But there are positive trends such as the Arts and Social Justice Working Group, comprised of foundations with a primary focus on education or community development partnering with arts organizations and artists.
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Timothy Unrine
Commit to the Lord whatever you do - Prov 16:3
11:45 AM on 05/08/2012
The question is really simple, Mormons claim to be Christians, and as Christians, the Sermon of the Mount teaches Christian Charity - Matt 6:1-5. No trumphets blowing, no press releases.

If you expect something in return from your"charity" then it isn't charity. Mormons expect "goodwill" publicity, like erasing the damage of Prop 8 and other anti-gay Mormon efforts.

So we know Mormon "charity" isn't Christian charity - therefore it is a marketing tool; a commercial.

"Here we are, the good Mormons coming to the rescue."

Mormons wait for a chance to send press releases to announce humanitarian aid, hoping to get the good will, and possible acceptable of Missionaries in the area, and Book of Mormon placement.

Charity expects nothing in return.

Marketing/Commercials are designed to get a return on the investment.

Pretty pathetic that Mormons used Mormon Helping Hands extensively in California this last month to try to erase the damage of Prop 8.
06:09 AM on 05/08/2012
Mr. Maher is an atheist who has often expressed his desire to eliminate religious belief and the institutions that support it. He wants government to have the power to seize the assets of not for profit organizations through taxation. One of the reasons to attack churches and other nonprofit organizations is that they show how inefficient government is in its efforts to improve people's lives.

As for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints specifically, note the following: there are no career clergy among Mormons. The bishop of a local congregation, and the president over groups of congregations in a city, are all unpaid parttime workers who donate their service. That service includes giving aid to the unemployed as food and financial support such as a rent payment. The food comes from farms operated by the church with labor donated by church members. Food is also donated in disaster areas like Haiti and the Gulf Coast. Mormons have fed millions of people.

The funds to aid the poor come from Mormons fasting for 24 hours once a month and donating the food money saved to aid the poor. Mormons go to the homes of widows and do house repairs, and help people pack household goods for moves to other cities. Mormons serve as.missionaries teaching health practices and building clean wells for remote communities. They donate to an education loan fund for members in developing nations.
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Timothy Unrine
Commit to the Lord whatever you do - Prov 16:3
11:47 AM on 05/08/2012
Since no real audits exists for well over the last four decades, no one knows how much percentage wise is use for 'charity" versus the upkeep of the many properties of the church elite.

Could be less than 1 percent; and from the latest cook the books of how many Mormons are in the church, we know, collectively, any numbers supplied by Mormons are suspect.
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12:47 AM on 05/08/2012
I think Maher's point about "charities" owning "castles" was a good one.
I think Ms. Mentzer however justifiably missed that point.
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Timothy Unrine
Commit to the Lord whatever you do - Prov 16:3
11:59 AM on 05/08/2012
Voices of reasons are usually jumped on to silence them - no one wants the truth.

Romney's donation to the church, lowered the treasury operating budget by the tax amount on that much of a deduction - - how is that money spent? is it spent on political campaigns like Prop8?

Is it used to pay for the lifestyle of the Mormon ruling elite? The last prophet lived rather well as a General Authority, Apostle and Prophet. Sure, they threw some bones, he sat on LDS owned company boards to hide how he really gets paid - but it isn't non-paid. Only at the lowest local level are Mormons non-paid clergy - the rest live pretty well on tax payer funded deductions.

Deductions to all religious organization should not be tax deductible. That is not violating the First Amendment, that is why churches APPLY for 501c3 status, and can be DENIED, it is not automatic.

Carter was aiming at the Mormons tax exempt status in 78 when the Mormons gave in and gave blacks the priesthood.

Churches could still get a different tax status, which doesn't allow for the donations to be tax deductible, but the church itself wouldn't have to pay tax on the donations it receives.

If Mormons are truly faithful. will they still give a ten percent tithe, if it doesn't come with a tax deduction.