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It's Enough To Make A Unicorn Blush: Our Problem With Talking About Sex

Posted: 03/19/2012 9:03 am

Not long ago I wrote a blog called "Sex, Love, and Unicorns," describing the ambivalence I was encountering when I talked about sex among us older folk. Everyone seemed to be embarrassed by the topic. Those who were doing it were a little sheepish and didn't want to go public. Those who weren't doing it were a little cynical and didn't want to hear others sing the praises of a revitalized erotic life. It got more than 500 comments!

Several things surprised me about those comments. First of all, a good proportion of them were from men, and a good proportion of those were celebrating their partners -- aging bodies and all. Why, they asked, were we women so critical of how we looked?

Second, I was struck by how honest and helpful the comments were. When one reader raised a problem or a fear, others jumped in with solutions and encouragement. "Ladies, don't ever give up on this wonderful part of your life," wrote an enthusiast. "It's not just about the physical; it's about connecting with someone so deeply that it transcends all of our problems."

And many went out of their way to assure the rest that the point was not what you did but whether it reflected a sense of personal authenticity. "If you like sex, fantastic," wrote one, "and if you've had enough to last a lifetime and would rather have a foot rub -- there's nothing wrong with you."

Most of all, I was bowled over by the sheer number of people who wanted to counter the question I implied -- why are we embarrassed about the topic of sex? -- by sharing their own experience and expertise. One addressed a common problem this way: "Hope folks can handle the truth because there is no fun in painful sex. Don't pretend it doesn't hurt, because it doesn't have to." Another recurring issue was erectile dysfunction. "Being there myself, I recognize that Old Guy performance anxiety can impair one/s partner's enjoyment," wrote another. He recommended Viagra.

There were even some sharp exchanges. When one woman wrote that in her experience "all sexual interest dried up after menopause, and that was such a relief. That energy is now diverted into activities in the community" another countered: "Speaking as an old lady who runs a charity, I think that community service and sexuality are not mutually exclusive." And some offered words of wisdom. "Sex is physics; love is chemistry."

Several writers expressed gratitude for the honest discussion. "I've been stressing out about these issues recently, so it's wonderful to read such positive comments," wrote one. But another thought honesty on the subject was overrated. "While my group of female friends has always talked at length about many things, speaking graphically about their sex lives has not been one of them. Seems tacky." Both comments confirmed that most people weren't comfortable talking about sex.

When I called my friend Laura Carstensen, who runs the Stanford Center on Longevity, she was intrigued. The thing is, she mused, sex performed by aging bodies is as taboo a subject as aging itself -- even among those who study our behavior. Of all the studies she has supervised that show the older we get, the happier we get, none of them asked the respondents about their sex lives.

Perhaps the researchers didn't know to look for sexual happiness, because they, like most of us, had not expected it to be a major source of joy at this stage of life.

One reason we don't talk about these things among ourselves, Carstensen suggests, is that as we move through the second adulthood years, there are more and more things that can go wrong. While we want to celebrate the good times and go after all that our reinvented lives have to offer, we are always aware of the disasters that lurk behind the same experiences. We understand that we will have many occasions to make peace with loss. So we want to enjoy the moment and not analyze it.

This tendency to appreciate the glass half full is, I have found, one of the saving graces of our current lives. In fact, one of the comments said as much: "One of the reasons that people might be satisfied with their sex lives as they age is that they finally learn to expect less and appreciate more. Lord knows, there is more and more that you can do nothing to change as you age." And more and more to discover about what brings you joy.

 
 
 
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Not long ago I wrote a blog called "Sex, Love, and Unicorns," describing the ambivalence I was encountering when I talked about sex among us older folk. Everyone seemed to be embarrassed by the topic.
Not long ago I wrote a blog called "Sex, Love, and Unicorns," describing the ambivalence I was encountering when I talked about sex among us older folk. Everyone seemed to be embarrassed by the topic.
 
 
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oregonian68
McCarthy was right.
01:31 PM on 05/07/2012
Sex is personal. Is there anything sacred in the world anymore?
RealistBC
Micro-bios must pass muster.
01:32 PM on 04/20/2012
Sex is only a "major source of joy" for a few. A couple of these women happen to be elder relatives of mine, so I know that not all women get to despising sex as they age. It's that too many do that doesn't help the situation any, for men are expected throughout their relationship years to always let her decide all the major issues about sex.
01:32 PM on 03/22/2012
Very interesting subject, You did the comment analysis well, of course the opinion changes person to person. Anyways here too you got a good number of comments for yet another analysis. Keep it up. Here I am via my long time web friend Shana Dines.
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ronruthnik
In awe of life
12:59 PM on 03/21/2012
There's no problems talking about sex if it's a comfortable, natural and regular part of your life. UNFORTUNATELY, we still exist in a Judeo-Christian-Victorian society that hammered most all of us from near infancy about how 'shameful' sexual activity was/is. THUS, talking about sex, intelligently, rationally, and the positive/negatives one finds in it and their partners styles, is quite difficult for many.
11:23 PM on 03/21/2012
Never in my life have I been told -- by a parent or credible authority figure -- that sex was shameful. Yeah, when I was a teenager, a few repressed adults suggested sex was bad, but they were harmless and powerless.

Some of the best instruction available was the instruction and advice I got from two columns that appeared every month in Playboy Magazine -- the Playboy Advisor and the Playboy Philosophy.
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oregonian68
McCarthy was right.
01:51 PM on 05/07/2012
http://www.cdc.gov/std/health-disparities/age.htm

Just imagine, if the older folks were as loose as the younger generation, they too could benefit from massive STD rates.
12:43 PM on 03/21/2012
I'm waiting for sex after altzheimers. You forget your partner, so you think you just scored with a new babe.
12:42 PM on 03/21/2012
Sex after 50, sex after 60 sex after 70 - all can be terrific if you want it to be. I have a hard time believing that my generation (boomers) who invented the asexual revolution will ever stop having sex -unless they want to or are physically unable. We are not our parents senior citizens. Sex, drugs and rock and roll have a whole new meaning in your senior years! Rock on!
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oregonian68
McCarthy was right.
01:36 PM on 05/07/2012
Sorry, but nature has endowed humanity with sex for a reason. Reproduction. I'm tired of reading articles that make older people feel like their relationship will end if granny doesn't wear Victorias Secret and act like a 20 year old. There is a reason sex drive goes down as we age. First, because older women should not have babies. Second, older people often have health issues that make sex unsafe. Marriage is about friendship as we age. Too much emphasis on sex is mentally unhealthy.
11:16 AM on 03/21/2012
As comedian of the 1960's, Shelly Berman, use to say, "The best thing about having sex with a woman over 50 is, they don't yell, they don't swell, they don't tell, and their greatfull as hell".
What can I say?
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oregonian68
McCarthy was right.
01:48 PM on 05/07/2012
I can't find the comment I replied to, but the link below is a refutation of the posters assertion older people have higher rates of VD.

http://www.cdc.gov/std/health-disparities/age.htm
10:29 AM on 03/21/2012
I didn't know sex stops at 50 for anyone. What is the point of such articles?
RealistBC
Micro-bios must pass muster.
05:41 PM on 03/30/2012
To educate those of us whose partners stop having sex after 50.
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altheschrod
I'm pedaling hard.
10:25 AM on 03/21/2012
The best part of sex after 50 is that you don't need it, and neither does your partner--if you have one. If you have an erection and someone is around to help make it go away that's fine, but if you do nothing at all that's fine too! Using your hand or having intercourse can be vey enjoyable, but rolling over and going back to sleep can feel good as well.
RealistBC
Micro-bios must pass muster.
05:42 PM on 03/30/2012
I'll bet you're the life of the party.
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oregonian68
McCarthy was right.
01:37 PM on 05/07/2012
Eeeew. I can't believe society is so depraved people talk openly about masturbation. Some things in life should be private.
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Louie Rey
09:59 AM on 03/21/2012
The best thing about having sex post 50 is just that, HAVING SEX! What kind of revelation is that? The best part of sex after ANYTHING is having sex. Thank God for erectile dysfunction drugs because as the late, great George Burns said when he was in his nineties, "Sex at my age is like shooting pool with a rope!"
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dancinggrandma
Therapist, writer, dancer
01:31 AM on 05/03/2012
Having dated a few men over 60, I can attest that ED can't always be rectified with Viagra. Encountering this several times, I googled and learned that over 20% of men do not get the desired result from the meds. Another problem of the over-60 male is being unable to ejaculate (even though erections can last indefinitely).
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oregonian68
McCarthy was right.
01:38 PM on 05/07/2012
If a man has ED, his body is telling him something.
09:26 AM on 03/21/2012
i thought the best part of having sex post 50 was having sex post 50.
02:49 AM on 03/21/2012
Great book about senior sex is Joan Price's "Naked at Our Age: Straight Talk About Senior Sex."

I long wanted some educational material to give or recommend to my sex therapy clients--mostly seniors--and then I discovered this book. Now I try to ensure that each client gets this book and reads it. There is not much else out there, but this one is excellent.
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10:03 PM on 03/20/2012
Jesus. At 60+, geriatric sex is one of the most depressing topics I can think of. "To every thing, there is a season. . ."
02:50 AM on 03/21/2012
Seniors are have more sex than young people now. It only gets better.
02:07 PM on 03/21/2012
Not sure that's true, but I do know the rate of STDs (what we called VD) is markedly higher in seniors than in young teens/adults.
08:50 AM on 03/21/2012
Maybe for you. speak for yourself. I hope that is what you are doing.
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libertysanders
10:27 AM on 03/21/2012
You must be kidding...I'm 57 and she's 65 and it's never been better!!!
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12:16 PM on 03/21/2012
Well, of course I speak only for myself. By fifty, sex had gradually changed from a pleasure to a burden to drudgery. Dunno what the wife does these days - hopefully she's got someone who gives her what she needs.
Autora
No micro-bio for me, thanks
05:09 PM on 03/20/2012
Does it matter to anyone what your opinion is? I can see that you may be trying to put 'out there' what shy or reluctant people may be thinking, but I haven't seen any evidence that they are espousing you as their spokesperson.
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TRex86
Enjoying life in West Ohio
04:38 PM on 03/20/2012
A little appreciated historical footnote. In the early 80's the drug Methaqualone (Qualude, Sopors) was put in the same legal category as heroin because it was thought to be an aphrodisiac. (It's not, just a sedative that disinhibits behavior like alcohol and other "downers"). The old white guys in law enforcement couldn't stand the thought. Thirty years later you can see the commercials for ED pills on every channel but Nick-at-Nite. Who knew?
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oregonian68
McCarthy was right.
01:53 PM on 05/07/2012
The old white guys in law enforcement were right about quaaludes.