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David Flumenbaum: Scandal of the Ages: Documents Reveal Underage Chinese Gymnast



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- alexiaangel120 See Profile I'm a Fan of alexiaangel120 permalink

I for one believe the accusations against the Chinese government are true. Hasn't anyone thought that the links being disabled is a sure way the government is trying to cover their tracks? If they really aren't guilty of this crime then why did they do that? They do not want to be incriminated any further than they already are.
Furthermore, I understand each country wanting to get the most medals, but being underhanded isn't the way. This is supposed to represent world peace and yet it doesn't. With China, the host country putting children in at the age of 14 and younger, shows they aren't really with the program.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 AM on 08/28/2008
- war-mouse See Profile I'm a Fan of war-mouse permalink

alexiaangel120, what you say may be a possibility. But there could be other reasons why those websites got disabled. Maybe their really sixteen, disabling the links would prevent any further misunderstanding then there already is out there. After all, Is it possible that all news on the Internet is accurate?.
China won gold many times, but only got to host the Olympics once. As such, they want their Olympics to be perfect. They wanted to show the world what a great country it is. It would be unlikely for them to engage in the act of cheating over a few gold medals. They Olympics means more to them.
Like I said, we can't confirm whether their 14 or 16 for the time being. Let's leave this to the IOC.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 PM on 08/29/2008
- war-mouse See Profile I'm a Fan of war-mouse permalink

This case is based on accusations with no solid proof. These athletes have passports saying their 16 years of age... yet people say the passports are fake. Then comes the documents saying their 14 years old, couldn't they be fake as well?.
This case is still under investigation, nobody cheated as far as I know.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 AM on 08/27/2008
- coco77 See Profile I'm a Fan of coco77 permalink

It's not just that being younger, smaller, and lighter gives an advantage, but ignoring the age rule also greatly increases the pool of athletes the country can choose from. It's funny how smaller countries like Romania, N. Korea and Australia obeyed the age rule despite being so disadvantaged compared to China with 1.3 billion people. As some examples of what small, young girls have done see videos on Kim Gwan Suk (1991-1992 bars), Shantessa Pama (2004 bars dismount), Nastia Liukin (2005 floor and quad attempt). Could they still do those skills at age 18? How many exceptional juniors were left off Olympic and world teams for the past 20 years because they were underage?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 PM on 08/26/2008
- minikinann See Profile I'm a Fan of minikinann permalink

One word...
Totalitarianism.
You'd think that China would have tried a bit harder to clean up the truth, you know, before the Olympics started. Should have used Nineteen Eighty-four as a instructional booklet, imo.
This whole affiar reeks of newspeak and big brother.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:35 PM on 08/25/2008
- greatdane44 See Profile I'm a Fan of greatdane44 permalink

Let's face it things aren't perfect in the western world either but I don't think you would find falsified passports being issued because somehow it would be leaked to the media. It's called "freedom of speech" which probably isn't directly translatable into any of the chinese languages as know one there has ever heard about it.

The olympics are supposed to be about fair competition and world unity. Unfortunately there's so much pressure to perform and financial incentives to win gold that cheating athletes can be found in most sports, across many nations. Never before have I seen so much bad judging in an olympics however, especially when it came to helping the host nation. The whole country has felt the pressure to win medals that they've done whatever they could to get their athletes on the podium.

I really don't care how old someone looks but when articles are repeatedly contradicting government information we have an issue. The IOC has no intentions of investigating the matter just as we don't see decisions being overturned when it's obvious there was match fixing, or bad judging. China can have it's gold medals but they certainly haven't earned the respect of the world which this olympics was their opportunity to do so.

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