Conservatives have wrecked government so massively that it fails in New Orleans, fails in Iraq, and fails in its most basic regulatory missions. And this is the reason we need to elect more conservatives to high office?
I refuse to get too wrapped up in the question of who "won" the debate. In general, unless one candidate obviously self-destructs, this question is answered subjectively and personally. That's not to say I didn't think Biden did better. I did.