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To Live Together or Not To Live Together: That Is the Question

Posted: 04/20/2012 4:25 pm

The New York Times had a thoughtful article in it last week on cohabitation and about five different people emailed it to me, as just a few days earlier my boyfriend had officially popped the question. No, not that passé question of marriage that all Baby Boomer parents are waiting for; The Gen-Y question that is much more difficult for us to answer: Will I move in with him? We had talked about it abstractly before; a few months ago we prevaricated around a hazy outline of what might happen with our relationship in the Spring in terms of his lease being up and wanting to find a bigger place for us.

But this was different. The question was formally asked and necessitated an answer. I always imagined that I would be bugging my boyfriend about moving our relationship along while he was dragging his feet, not that I would silently freak out over nothing while he declared he was officially ready.

The thought of moving into a nicer placer with a man I love (perhaps with my own washer/dryer), where we would cook dinner together in a big kitchen makes me excited about the prospect of this step. But I also felt nervous -- which really surprised me.

I told him that I was excited but that there were a few logistical things I was concerned with, like money, for instance. He already pays three times what I pay in rent and he wants to move in to a nicer place. Of course, to him, this isn't an issue. I never expected you to pay half of the rent, he said at brunch. But I want to pay half! I lamented. He joked that it could be a very long time before I'm able to do that and he's probably right.

So I've spent the last few days doing what girls do when we have relationship decisions to make: haranguing all my girlfriends and getting their opinions on the subject. To each girlfriend I list my excuse, the finances, our differences in respect for the toothpaste cap, his Republican tendencies. I analyze the pros and cons. I try to separate each emotion I feel into a question that I must ponder. Till finally, the other night on the phone, my friend Beth shoots them all down. Who cares about this stuff? Do you want to live with him? she pressed me.

When she said that, I realized I was scared. I've written before about my hesitation when it comes to moving in together and why it may not be the best recipe for a successful marriage. In fact, I wrote a law school paper on why women should avoid cohabitation if they want to get married, which you can see here.

This recent New York Times article though offers new insight into co-habitation. It argues that there are two problems associated with co-habitation before marriage which lead to more divorce than for people who wait to live together till married. But the author proffers that the problems have solutions that seem to lessen the effect. Firstly, it acknowledges the sliding effect where a couple moves "from dating to sleeping over to sleeping over a lot to cohabitation [on a] gradual slope, one not marked by rings or ceremonies or sometimes even a conversation. Couples bypass talking about why they want to live together and what it will mean." I've seen this effect with a lot of my friends who just end up living with different guys. This however, will not be my problem. I've never lived with a boy before. On top of that, I analyze relationships and dating to obliteration for a living, so I'm very concerned with what all this means. If we do this, it will be a big decision and I already feel bad for the talks my boyfriend will have to endure.

Unfortunately, the other disadvantage cohabitation causes according to this new research is very worrisome. Men and women seem to view moving in together differently. Women are more likely to see it as a step toward marriage and men are more likely to see it as a "test run" for marriage. This is precisely what I'm bogged down in. My boyfriend and my guess is that more and more of my generation view moving in together as a good test for marriage. He has literally used the word "test" to discuss the philosophical value of living together. I, however, don't see it as a test. In fact, I'd prefer to wait till I'm engaged not because he needs motivation to move on, but because living together is always hard and I think if you're more committed to working things out, your relationship will fare better. And I don't want to be tested out for the role of some wifey image he has in his mind.

Plus, I know that living together means so much more to me than it does to him. I always assumed that a guy I was living with is the guy I'd marry, not that I would try out a bunch of different guys until I found a good fit and apartment I liked. This creates a huge problem for us because to him, getting a place together is not a big deal. To me, it's a huge deal. He's only asked himself Do I want to live with her? I'm asking Is this the person I'm supposed to marry? Is this the man I want to have children with? Can I accept that for the rest of my life he may never put the cap back on the toothpaste?

Of course, the article suggests that perils of cohabitation might be avoided by steering clear of the sliding factor and discussing your expectations for cohabitation. But what am I supposed to say to him? The fact is, moving in together is forcing me to ask myself the big questions right now and yet, he's not. He doesn't want to ask himself those questions until he's put our relationship through a test. He is a child of divorce ,so I understand his apprehension about moving too quickly, but I truly am worried that this step could damage our relationship. I'm not gong to be able to make this mean less and he probably won't be able to make it mean more at this point, so maybe that means that our relationship is not at the stage where moving in is right. But I really am so sick of finding quarters for my washer/dryer. I really feel torn about this whole thing. All I can say at this point is guess who's having a relationship talk this weekend? I'll let you know how it goes...

 

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The New York Times had a thoughtful article in it last week on cohabitation and about five different people emailed it to me, as just a few days earlier my boyfriend had officially popped the question...
The New York Times had a thoughtful article in it last week on cohabitation and about five different people emailed it to me, as just a few days earlier my boyfriend had officially popped the question...
 
 
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07:23 AM on 04/25/2012
In my opinion, if you aren't confident enough in the relationship to marry the person, you aren't confident enough to live with them, either. So my advice in this case? Don't. In fact, if you're considering marriage *ever*, don't live together. Living together should be for those who have rejected the concept of marriage for philosophical or other reasons, and for whom it represents an equivalent commitment.
02:25 PM on 04/24/2012
You're allowed to have two separate tubes of toothpaste, you know.
10:56 AM on 04/23/2012
we did not live together, at my wife's insistence, until we were engaged. At the time I didn't like this, but hey, what's a few months or a few years with separate places if you are going to spend your life together?
09:22 PM on 04/22/2012
With the death of marriage in the US, a better question is " to live or not live together if you have children". This article raiser some interesting points.
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minto
you know what they say about opinions...
12:39 AM on 04/22/2012
I say don't. This is just my opinion and since I am a stranger, it shouldn't mean much to you. However, I don't think that living together is a good test. There is nothing like marriage. The knowledge that you have committed for life and if you want to break up, you need lawyers to get involved changes the dynamic of a relationship. Living together just isn't the same thing.

I am a child of divorce as well. The reason that I am against living together is because I watched my dad live with different women as I was growing up and it seemed very one sided. They were much more involved than he was. I have been married for 18 years and it is great but there have been rough times and if there wasn't that commitment there, I don't know that we would have lasted as long as we did.
09:27 PM on 04/22/2012
Minto, marriage is dying, looks at that stats. In the very near future co-habitation or living alone will be the only options. There will be no marriage "test". I am not anti-marriage, just a realist. Europe is already well on the their way down this track. It's a shame, really.
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To those who waited 6 hrs to vote, THANK YOU!
06:25 PM on 04/21/2012
I would never get married unless I lived with them first. Whether choosing to live with your fiance or living with your best friend in a college dorm, cohabitation can make or break your relationship.
It is so much different than dating with your own space to return to, and so many things that are more annoying than the toothpaste cap being left off.
Small stuff like the little hairs in the sink from shaving, the toilet seat being left up, and replacing the toilet paper by balancing a new roll on top of an empty toilet paper holder can cause problems.

The same goes for him. We do alot of irritating things too. We talk too much, tell too many details in a story, and we usually have a lot more stuff than guys do. Living together relieves you of the obligation to stay because you're married. If you are compatible, you can get married because you really want to, faults and all.
01:08 PM on 04/21/2012
Men, don't move in with her. Keep her on call and in rotation with three other girls and enjoy life away from the legal prisons of cohabitation and marriage.
12:08 PM on 04/21/2012
But stats aren't everything. What matters isn't what happens to most people, it's you and your boyfriend. You're taking the right step here - talking to him about what living together means to you. If it means something else to him, it's a good idea to wait. That doesn't mean you have to break up and you can even live together later on.

It sounds like another issue the two of you may have is that he's from a family of divorce and is more worried about commitment than you are. That may be an ongoing issue for years to come - that doesn't doom anything, it's just probably part of how he looks at things. So time to get talking and thinking and growing together.
12:05 PM on 04/21/2012
The statistics that say living together makes you more likely to divorce are probably wrong. They compare the divorce rate of people who've been together for seven years, for example, to people who've been together only five. Any group that's been married longer has a higher divorce rate. So you can take comfort that from the point of view of statistics, you're not doomed if you live together.
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abhorson
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02:40 AM on 04/21/2012
" I analyze relationships and dating to obliteration for a living..."

Consider the subject beaten and flogged mercilessly to obliteration ...

Now, after you've exhausted the poor guy, consulted ALL your friends, ran a poll on the Huff, did a regressive analysis of all live-in relationships by entering data into databases and pulled pie-charts and graphs to statistically determine the chances of said relationship, as a last resort consulted a fortune-teller with astrology bio-charts ...

there's now only one thing to do ! CHANGE YOUR MIND... or just 'go with it'...
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Terri Skau
Sí... bajo una hermosa luna de la cosecha...
05:42 PM on 04/21/2012
I want to comment on this but, I feel you may know and understand why I cannot. It's personal and this is not the place. ;-))