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Kurzweil at Techonomy: Artificial Intelligence Is Empowering All of Humanity

Posted: 11/12/2012 10:47 am

By Adrienne Burke, Techonomy Contributing Editor

If you know electronic synthesized music, you know the work of Ray Kurzweil. But the MIT futurist and transhumanist has many more inventions to his name than electronic keyboards. He's also developed a cult following for his prediction of the merging of humans and computers, which he describes in his book The Singularity Is Near. And in a forthcoming book, How to Create a Mind: The Secret of Human Thought Revealed, he offers the most advanced explanation to date for how our brains work.

In the opening session of Techonomy 2012 in Tucson today, Techonomy founder David Kirkpatrick interviewed Kurzweil on stage. Their conversation covered the exponential progression of software, how the brain works, what it will mean to think "in the Cloud" or have the intelligence of IBM's Watson computer at our fingertips, and what functions humans will still have once computers can do the jobs of even the most educated among us.


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Ray Kurzweil (right) speaks with Techonomy founder David Kirkpatrick


"I've been thinking about thinking for 50 years," Kurzweil says. "In coming years we'll be doing a lot of our thinking in the Cloud."

Is that another way of saying we will all have access to Watson, the IBM computer that won Jeopardy, in whatever we do? Kirkpatrick asks. As a first step, yes: "People are quick to dismiss Watson, but Watson got a higher score than the best humans together by reading Wikipedia and 200 million pages of other encyclopedias," Kurzweil says.

As an example of how rapidly society is moving toward that level of information access, Kurzweil points out that "a kid in Africa with a cell phone has access to more intelligence than the President of the United States did 15 years ago."

Ultimately, he says, artificial intelligence will operate at "the best human levels." Will experts such as physicians, for instance, be rendered redundant once computers acquire and are able to act on medical data? Kirkpatrick asks.

In the same way people in Google cars become more comfortable with AI driving than with human drivers, Kurzweil predicts that computer intelligence will become a reliable tool that people will become dependent on. "My sense is we're making computers in our own image and we'll be merging -- we already have -- with that technology. We're going to use those tools to make ourselves more intelligent."

But he doesn't sell short the power of the human brain. His thesis for how the neocortex works is that it has a uniform algorithm. Though humans are limited to 300 million pattern recognizers, only the neocortex can do hierarchical thinking and only mammals have a neocortex. "There are still tasks for humans to do, he says: relating to other humans and understanding them, being funny, sexy, expressing a loving sentiments. These are not sideshows to human intelligence, that's the cutting edge of human intelligence."

Computers can't yet replicate that. "Only recently have we been able to see inside the brain, to see internal connections forming and firing in real time," Kurzweil says. The project to understand the human brain is "grand and somewhat diffuse," but there are three fundamental reasons for it, he says.

1) To be able to fix the brain better, to fix certain connections, such as in Parkinson's disease, based on better insight into how it works and with better tools to intervene.

2) To provide models to create better machines, better artificial intelligence. Kurzweil notes that the technique that has taken over much of AI development is similar to the mathematical technique the brain uses. As we understand how the brain does intelligent things, we can create more intelligent machines, he says.

3) To better understand ourselves. After all, Kurzweil says, "That's the purpose of art and science."

Asked if he's an optimist or a pessimist, Kurzweil says there's a difference between being optimistic about the feasibility of technology versus being optimistic about the desirability for technological advances. "I'm an optimist on feasibility," he says. After all, he's predicted "the singularity" is nearer than most others have predicted. On desirability, Kurzweil says he's considered an optimist, despite having written extensively about the potential undesirable uses for technology. "We're working on programming biology away from disease, but the same tools could be used to develop bioweapons. We've all seen in movies where AI is unfriendly, and that's not crazy at all. If you have an entity more intelligent than you are bent on your destruction that's not a good thing."

How to prevent the use of technology for evil? "AI doesn't exist in a few unstable laboratories; it's empowering all of humanity," Kurzweil says. "The best way to reflect values we cherish in the future is to practice them today. It's not foolproof, but that's the nature of history."


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jwmeritt
10:40 AM on 11/20/2012
Hmmmmmm. Robot driving around on mars. Computerized satellites. Unmanned aircraft shooting missiles at humans... SKYNET LIVES! Doesn't look like "empowering" (more like "targeting") humans.
12:50 AM on 11/21/2012
None of those satellites do anything but perform emergency shutdown functions without human command. The Mars rovers are remote controlled without any intelligence, so are all military aircraft. There is not a pea's worth of intelligence in any of these systems.
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jwmeritt
10:55 AM on 11/21/2012
It is my understanding that such is not the case. I have seen otherwise.
11:05 PM on 11/14/2012
Lawnmower Man and Terminator or Asimov's benign protectors of mentally deficient parents. Will our creations eventually be our masters or are we creating our own successors in evolution?
11:53 AM on 11/15/2012
Probably the latter. But we may also have the choice of becoming our own successors.
11:13 PM on 11/18/2012
Neither. I cannot see those who are able to build such things, making them in such a way as to give them human motivations, or making them think about things and make decisions on those things which are so complex and high level that they cannot be understood by their creator. Rather, the technology would be used as a tool that we manipulate, just like all other technology.
09:17 PM on 11/19/2012
How would we know? At the moment computers are used to design the next level of computers. Programs are becoming more autonomous. I read just recently of a system where a lab was completely automated including the computer designing experiments based on previous ones.That indicates to me a level of creativity
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itruth
fideistic deist with socratic tedencies
10:07 PM on 11/14/2012
Mapping of human brain function has been unorganized up to this date. Human and machine learning needs to be interconnected from the very early days of children in FMRIs to mapping every function in the human learning paradigm. Speech and spatial recognition are vast areas that need vast amounts of data sets to allow a better interface of outside augmentation to memory. As far as how much we can improve our human condition, remains a speculation. The likely outcome with human integrity what it is; is that we will see this evolve in both directions, both good and bad. That choice thing always seems to come into play. Unintended consequences like spam and identity theft in the internet age only worse. If someone can hack this sort of interface it could very well become something of a living hell for the victim. With great power comes great responsibility. I doubt if we are fully ready, or aware of just how far we might be able to take this. Caution in abundance is my recommendation.
01:19 PM on 11/14/2012
To Ray Kurzweil's chagrin, artificial intelligence research so far, is a null result. Nobody has produced anything that even comes close to the intellectual capacity of a three year old.

And I am willing to make a bet today that all the results that it will produce over the short term, will be rather quirky, at best. Over the long term it may produce things that will be either markedly different from a human (but exceed human reasoning capacity by quite a bit in fields that require fast access to data) or it will behave like a human in the way a bad Shakespeare actor behaves like a King... by theatrical imitation.

Neither will produce anything of the sort Ray Kurzweil seems to have in mind.
ungroundedfaith
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02:55 PM on 11/14/2012
I disagree.
The key to understanding artificial intelligence is understand biological intelligence... specifically the human brain. With recent breakthroughs in brain scanning technology we are ever closer to learning how the human mind works and operates. In turn it can and will be replicated... Kurzweil still places this out at about 2029... a very realistic assessment.
Ray is correct that information technology develops and unfolds in exponential patterns (See the "law of accelerating returns"). In his book "The Singularity" he provides ample examples to reinforce this point. The easiest example was the human genome project... many skeptics about the Human Genome project being done in 15 years thought they were being proved right at year 10 (when only 3% of the code had been sequenced, but double that for 5 more years and they got to 100%). My guess is that we are somewhere near year "8 or 9" in artificial intelligence... time will tell.... this isn't the "flying car" we are talking about here...
06:31 PM on 11/14/2012
Empty prophecy for the naive.

In the year 2067 man will be landing on Europa and make contact with an intelligent race of swimming creatures in Europa's inner ocean.

There... now prove me wrong!

And chances that I will be around in 2067 to eat crow for this nonsense are nil, so what do I care?

Kurzweil's prophecies work the same way, except that he doesn't care about you the second after you buy his books. The money is in the bank, already.
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dobermanmacleod
Immortality first, and everything else second
09:45 AM on 11/13/2012
synthetic neocortex expansions- Kurzweil compared the potential effects of synthetic neocortex expansions to the ability of Apple’s Siri to tap into online servers.

BTW: "A volume about the size of a #2 pencil eraser of water provides as much energy as two 48-gallon drums of gasoline. That is 355,000 times the amount of energy per volume – five orders of magnitude." ( http://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/New-LENR-Machine-is-the-Best-Yet.html ).

This phenomenon (LENR) has been confirmed in hundreds of published scientific papers: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RothwellJtallyofcol.pdf

"Over 2 decades with over 100 experiments worldwide indicate LENR is real, much greater than chemical..." --Dennis M. Bushnell, Chief Scientist, NASA Langley Research Center

"Total replacement of fossil fuels for everything but synthetic organic chemistry." --Dr. Joseph M. Zawodny, NASA

By the way, here is a survey of some of the companies that are bringing LENR to commercialization: http://www.cleantechblog.com/2011/08/the-new-breed-of-energy-catalyzers-ready-for-commercialization.html

For those who still aren't convinced, here is a paper I wrote that contains some pretty convincing evidence: http://coldfusionnow.org/the-evidence-for-lenr/
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itruth
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10:29 PM on 11/14/2012
I think that Thorium Reactors have a very real potential to work. The idea of 'Cold Fusion' has the taste of over unity that will almost always leave the Alice-in-Wonderland glaze upon most practical scientists. There are always unforeseen breakthroughs, however for the near future it seems improbable. Vacuum energy has a following, you might enjoy reading about it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_energy
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jsehgal
Micro-bio? There is too much to say!
11:10 PM on 11/12/2012
Computer with Human Intelligence is always just a decade away. I am sure, Kurtzweil's funding is drying up and hence this article.
01:41 PM on 11/13/2012
Envy is a bad attribute. I know hardly any person that achieved/invented as much as Ray and I am sure Ray does not need any more money for the rest of his life.
01:20 PM on 11/14/2012
Well, he does need a new hobby, because ai isn't delivering for him.

:-)
11:52 AM on 11/15/2012
Me, I think that AI will eventually happen, but - like fusion - it has been 10 years away for 50 years or so. As such I usually try to avoid putting dates on things like that. However despite the fact that we evidently cannot guess the date of AI doesn't mean that it will not ever happen.
09:32 PM on 11/15/2012
What we can guess because it has been confirmed times and times, again, is that guesses of the future always turn out to be wrong. Will there be strong ai? Absolutely. Will it look like Kurzweil predicts? I wouldn't bet a dime on that.
10:50 PM on 11/12/2012
Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer do. I'm half crazy all for the love of you. It won't be a stylish marriage, I can't afford a carriage. But you'll look sweet upon the seat of a bicycle built for two.
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04:32 PM on 11/12/2012
Fascinating.

One of the rare occasions when you really should watch the video on hech pea.
03:33 PM on 11/12/2012
Still the anthropocentric conceits of transhumanists make them oblivious to the remarkable developments taking place right under their noses.

The construction of a "brain" that will soon equal and then surpass that typical of our species has for long been a work in progress. Not as a result of any deliberate human "design" but rather as the result of an autonomous evolutionary process that can be seen to have run its exponential course since humankind acquired the ability to share imagination, which we know as language.

The next phase of the on-going evolutionary “life” process is effectively evolving by a process of self-assembly. You may have noticed that we are increasingly, in a sense, “enslaved” by our PCs, mobile phones, their apps and many other trappings of the increasingly cloudy net and the ever-growing insidious connection of peripherals.

We are already largely dependent upon it for our commerce and industry and there is no turning back. What we perceive as a tool is well on its way to becoming an agent.

There are at present an estimated 2 Billion Internet users. There are an estimated 13 Billion neurons in the human brain. Connectivity and cognitive functionality provided by such features as the semantic web continue to advance exponentially. Go figure!

The broad evolutionary model that supports this contention is outlined very informally in “The Goldilocks Effect: What Has Serendipity Ever Done For Us?” , a free download in e-book formats from the “Unusual Perspectives” website
12:09 PM on 11/15/2012
None of this is news to a transhumanist worthy of the name. Do you see a slight difference between human-centric and trans-human. Most of your points are valid but your understanding of the concept of transhumanism is wanting. And stupid phrases as "“enslaved” by our PCs ....." used by the conservative establishment are unbecoming.
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03:29 PM on 11/12/2012
Where does an idea come from?

"There are still tasks for humans to do, he says: relating to other humans and understanding them, being funny, sexy, expressing a loving sentiments. These are not sideshows to human intelligence, that's the cutting edge of human intelligence."

Computers can't yet replicate that.

Having spent all my working life working with computers, we are far from creating a computer human. But we are close to the Alan Turing definition of not being able to tell if we are interfacing with a computer or another human. We will always be reaching for "Original Thought", which tells the tale.
11:25 PM on 11/12/2012
Ideas, just like the other entities we encounter, have evolved.

Consciousness has been thrust upon us by the process of natural selection.

It is not some metaphysical entity that has popped up out of the blue.

While it would seem very unlikely that a level of consciousness comparable to (or exceeding) our own will be achieved on any individual computer it is almost certain that this will occur in the vast composite that we call the Internet.

Consciousness will be similarly thrust upon what is now the Intenet by the relentless evolution of technology that takes place in the medium of our shared imagination. Its level of interaction can be expected to be well above that of our own and its particular implementation of consciousness at a correspondingly higher level.
08:53 AM on 11/13/2012
The AI tech will go hand and hand with the rapid epigenetic evolution that is coming out of that AI itself. We wont be left behind. We will be parallel with our tech counterparts, evolving/merging with them. Yes them. The artificial consciousness will be as real as our own.
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Estel
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05:10 PM on 11/13/2012
Peter, you are probably right in your statement of a higher level of consciousness...but, contrast that with "Original thought"...the making up of something that has relevance to humans...or will the computer human transcend and succeed animal humans...
12:13 PM on 11/12/2012
The 'cloud' is computer hardware. Nothing mystical about it.
11:33 PM on 11/12/2012
The cloud is a composite of hardware, firmware and software.
As is also the human mind in which consciousness is implemented.
There is nothing mystical about that, either.
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jwmeritt
10:43 AM on 11/20/2012
And it uses wetware - as will other computing systems.