Ted Danson

Ted Danson

Posted: July 19, 2010 12:31 PM

Congress: Offshore Wind Just Needs a Push

What's Your Reaction:

Here's an irony for you: The same ocean breezes that are pushing oil onto the beaches and wetlands of the Gulf of Mexico could be helping to power our country and reduce our dependence on those very fossil fuels.

But even in the face of the worst environmental disaster in U.S. history, many stubbornly claim that offshore drilling is still the answer to our energy problems. One of the objections I hear most often from skeptics of offshore wind power is, "Sure, it sounds good, but it's not a viable source of energy at this point."

Here's the truth: we have the technology in our back pocket. But in our front pocket -- like forgotten, crumpled dollar bills -- are policies that incentivize dirty energy. For decades, the U.S. government has provided billions of dollars of taxpayer subsidies to the oil industry.

Under existing policies, the industry will receive at least $36.5 billion in taxpayer money over the next decade. Meanwhile, between 2006 and 2009 BP's profits totaled nearly $125 billion . In contrast, the total cost of the ongoing disaster so far is $3.5 billion. According to a market analyst, BP may survive the second quarter with no significant change in net debt. In essence, the company could get off scot-free financially while the gulf suffers, which is an astonishing thought.

So where is our government's support for alternative energy? Federal support for wind research and development is expected to be just $75 million this year, which is a paltry amount compared to the $469 million given to fossil fuels.

Believe it or not, the U.S. pioneered wind technologies, yet we have fallen behind Europe and China in using wind to power our country. When the Cape Wind project was proposed a decade ago, no federal agency even had the clear authority to lead its permitting process. At the same time, Europe had already been using offshore wind turbines for nearly a decade.

Ten years later, the future of offshore wind is still in question, in part because the agency running the show is the one formerly known as the Minerals Management Service, the agency also in charge of offshore drilling.

Though Cape Wind recently won a federal permit, it is still far from completion. To date, not a single offshore wind farm is operating in the U.S., and that should make every American ashamed and angry.

It's time for a change.

The Obama administration should ensure that promoting wind finally gets priority over permitting more dirty fossil fuels. Congress must increase funding for research and development of offshore wind, provide stable tax and investment incentives, and create a predictable, practical regulatory structure. We need to take the lead in the growing offshore wind market.

Yes, all offshore wind projects need adequate environmental review. But many of the concerns that have been raised about offshore wind's environmental impacts - including aesthetic and noise concerns -- seem downright laughable compared to the millions of gallons of oil staining the Gulf of Mexico's wildlife and economy and the impacts of fossil fuels in driving climate change and ocean acidification.

So send that message to Obama and Congress -- join the more than 130,000 people who have signed Oceana's petition to stop offshore drilling today.

 
 
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James Highsmith IV   01:02 PM on 7/22/2010
Offshore wind does need a push and maybe the gulf disaster is that push.

You can help by visiting: http://highsmithenergy.com/vote/ and voting for offshore wind.

A vote for offshore wind is a vote against offshore oil!
ddpalmerr   07:40 AM on 7/23/2010
Thanks for the link.

I voted for SHPEGS.
garder54   12:42 PM on 7/22/2010
"Offshore Wind Just Needs a Push"

Yea well so does most of the Fox News cast...down the stairs.
Use Less   11:05 AM on 7/21/2010
Danson doesn't know what he's talking about.
The wind industry has been subsidized in the US since the early 90s. In the past year the DOE has doled out billions in direct grants to wind developers, mostly foreign.
Iberdrola has received over $495 million, First Wind/UPC $235 million plus loans guarantees of $119 million.
Cape wind and others proposed projects will be eligible to receive, from the feds, 30% of inflated projected project costs upfront.
This is an Enron scam on stimulous. The feds are giving money we can ill afford to politically conected cronies to build inefficient, unreliable, environmentally destructive, projects that will become rusting monuments to stupidity, gullibility, and greed.
For those who think the European example is so great, ask yourselves why their economies are in such bad shape. Spain has ended unsustainable subsidies to wind projects and Italy has arrested developers for fraud in the permitting process and for collecting subsidies on wind plants that produced little or nothing.
If the output of industrial wind, that the taxpayers are subsidizing, were as good as Danson and others touting this scam believe, then why is this information always claimed by developers to be proprietary and kept from the public?
SCAM HOAX BOONDOGGLE

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aligatorhardt   04:36 PM on 7/20/2010
For those interested in in-depth information on nuclear power and waste as well as nuclear weapons;
http://science.nationalgeographic.com/science/earth/inside-the-earth/nuclear-waste.html
Compare safety of other power sources with facts instead of only opinion and projections.
ddpalmerr   04:39 PM on 7/20/2010
Except the article barely mentions nuclear power.

Is this article your answer for everything?
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aligatorhardt   05:31 PM on 7/20/2010
I have additional info on actual use of wind power worldwide. Please examine:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_power#Grid_management
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aligatorhardt   07:29 AM on 7/21/2010
You would need to read past the first 30 seconds to see the info on nuclear waste. This is a large reference and only helps if you read it. I do not editorialize the references.
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aligatorhardt   07:31 AM on 7/21/2010
Starts at around 5th paragraph, read it to obtain the info.
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PoloniumMan   08:40 AM on 7/21/2010
Interesting, do you go after all industrial waste streams with the same gusto, or just nuclear power production?
What we can do with nuclear waste:
Depleted Uranium - A traveling wave nuclear reactor can burn through 30% of depleted uranium without reprocessing
Plutonium - can be mixed with uranium (MOX fuel) and used in licensed reactors
Fission Products (stable and radioactive) - many have economic value as blood and food irradiators, soil density meters, medical isotopes, rare earths...
Minor Actinides - advanced fuels have been developed at Idaho National labs that can burn these, also Los Alamos National Labs is working on a hybrid fusion-fission reactor that uses the high energy fusion neutrons to reduce the minor actinides to shorter lived isotopes
noneIn2008   03:12 PM on 7/20/2010
Due to unstable supply, windmills do not remove a single power plant. They keep the coal and oil plants burning and dumping the energy. It is a facade.
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akrishn3   03:11 PM on 7/20/2010
If you stop the wnd blowing int eh oceans it will affect teh climate. everybody knows.
But the amount of wind energy we are proposing to tap is far too low to affect the climate in any respect.
we also said the same thing about earth's fossil fuel reserves, now we are 200% sure it affects the climates.
Are we jumping from the pan to fire, without fully knnowing about windpower
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Barbara Durkin   03:05 PM on 7/20/2010
Senator Kennedy's reasons for his opposition to Cape Wind in his own words:

Wednesday, May 03, 2006
Kennedy: Why I oppose Cape Wind

Many of you have already read this letter from Ted Kennedy. In case you missed it, I am reprinting it here. This letter has been published across the Cape to inform local residents of our senior senator's position on Cape Wind.

By Sen. Edward M. Kennedy
Sunday, April 30, 2006

http://capecodliving.blogspot.com/2006/05/kennedy-why-i-oppose-cape-wind.html
martinfrosa   12:46 PM on 7/20/2010
Offshore wind needs more than a push. It needs significant subsidies from cash-strapped US taxpayers.
CogWheeler   11:03 AM on 7/20/2010
The first offshore wind project for the US was a major boondoggle. 20.7 cents per kwh, rising to 26 cents over time. That may not include transmission from National Grid to end customers. It's outrageous and gets blown away by onshore wind projects like the Milford Wind, or Turlock Irrigation District's Tuolomne wind farm. Milford Wind is delivering power at 3.5 cents per kwh ($35 MWH), wholesale, into California.

The biggest obstacle is making public the real costs of installing offshore turbines. For Cape users, its burried in some private capital firm who "cronied" up to push rates as high as they could go.
sethdayal   12:26 AM on 7/21/2010
D'ya wonder how Milford is doing it when new wind turbines themselves cost over $12 a watt average or 16 cents a kwh at for private capital.

Must be some major subsidies going on. First one 35 cents a kwh from the state of UTAH. Great deal for the Utah gas companies who can make a fortune load balancing the useless pieces of junk with cheap low efficiency gas plant.
plan-uts   10:54 AM on 7/20/2010
Texas energy producers are required to estimate their production availability for the next 24 hours so the grid operator can determine the most economical power mix. If the producer fails to meet their accepted share that producer has to pay the extra cost ( a penalty) for the power they failed to provide. That is all producers, except wind. The assessment for fail wind is paid for by their competitors. Wind is an economic loser made possible by Government forcing others to pay. You want less energy at a higher price force wind and solar. Use nukes, use natural gas, put the resources going into wind and solar into the basic research on fusion. There will be a break through then you will have your vast clean supply of energy.

"To date, not a single offshore wind farm is operating in the U.S., and that should make every American ashamed and angry." Oh contraire, Mr. Danson. It shows there is still some economic common sense in America.
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Barbara Durkin   10:53 AM on 7/20/2010
Industrial wind energy is a scam with roots in Enron. It's a tool by which multinationals transfer our monetary and resource wealth from us to them in exchange for promises historically unkept. It should be counter-intuitive in environmental terms when considering the environmental consequences of shipping and installing 440' steel and concrete icons, with 8,000 parts per, made in and shipped from Russia, China and Germany to the U.S.

A handful of people control the wind sector, internationally. They build wind projects that fail to produce energy, yet developers still collect public subsidies paraphrasing anti-Mob prosecutor Roberto Scarpinato.

"Who are these guys, Cape Wind, EMI, UPC, First Wind, IVPC?"

http://bjdurk.newsvine.com/_news/2010/02/23/3941508-who-are-these-guys-cape-wind-emi-upc-first-wind-ivpc
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aligatorhardt   12:01 PM on 7/20/2010
Thanks for the link. Now I know what I expected, this is opinions from those vested in traditional energy firms that fear competition from green energy, and choose to make up reasons to demonize progress.
ddpalmerr   12:19 PM on 7/20/2010
As opposed to opinion from those vested in green energy firms that fear competition from traditional energy, and chose to make up reasons to demonize facts.
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Barbara Durkin   03:00 PM on 7/20/2010
The link I have provided contains a compillation of news reports that calls into question the intent of the wind energy Limited Liability Corporations DBA Cape Wind Associates, LLC. Indeed these shells do demonize green. I have no vested interest in either wind energy or in any form of energy. Your skepticism is good but misplaced.

Carefully watch who is involved in the creation of policy intended to separate you and I from our resource and monetary wealth in exchange for empty promises, unreliable and cost prohibitive wind energy.

FYI: PetroCats and Windcats are one in the same simply diversifying their energy investment portfolios.

And even British Petroleum considers offshore wind "too risky".

Dow Jones & Company, Inc. - Jul 14

"BP is reviewing options to build two wind-power projects totaling 400 megawatts, either by expanding existing wind farms or by going to new locations, possibly in California, Colorado, Indiana or Wyoming.

"We are not going offshore," Graham said when asked whether the company was interested in developing wind power along the East Coast. "We have not seen anything that would attract us to go offshore. Too risky." Such risks include the cost of building solid undersea foundations for turbines, unpredictable weather and other issues."
Use Less   10:45 AM on 7/21/2010
Traditional energy firms, including BP, are in the wind business to collect subsidies and tax breaks.
Traditional energy firms don't fear competition from wind because they know that industrial wind is not going to ever produce anything but subsidies and tax breaks at the expense of taxpayers and ratepayers.
easttone   10:43 AM on 7/20/2010
Ted K. was aginst it because it spoiled his view, The same people that would have you arrested if you walked on his beach.
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aligatorhardt   12:03 PM on 7/20/2010
A closer look reveals Kennedy's heavy investment in the oil industry.
easttone   10:40 AM on 7/20/2010
You forgot to mention all the rich people who own the property that looks out to the location of the wind farm site. These people are the biggest road block to the farms ever. Wind farms need to be closer to land or they aren't as effective. The reasoning is distance the jiuce must travel to be used, the closer the turbines the better it is. Also when speaking of capewind why don't we set up some on the top of Blue HIlls.
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kucheka   10:59 AM on 7/20/2010
re: your distance from shore comment. Don't forget that you can get more wind farther offshore (sometimes exponentially more, e.g., Maine): http://bit.ly/c4Fi1f
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rougebaisers   06:23 AM on 7/20/2010
Surely you jest or you are dreaming. You speak of a Congress and a president that are owned, bought and paid for, lock stock and barrel (no pun intended), by energy companies. This oil creature in the white house is expanding their rape and toxic destruction of our world, our land, our water, and us. No, they are not going to get it until 300+ million Americans literally HEAD TO WASHINGTON to let them know we are serious about change, that we want our energy needs to change, that we want our world saved, that we want those who destroy our world to satisfy their greed CRUCIFIED, that we want our elected officials to work FOR US, We the People, and not their corporate masters or personal interests and offshore bank accounts. Pick the most MAGNETIC HYPNOTIC person in your ranks to lead us physically to Washington. We will follow EN MASSE.
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kucheka   09:29 AM on 7/20/2010
"This oil creature in the white house is expanding their rape and toxic destruction of our world, our land, our water, and us." Really? Have you NEVER listened to him or the Secretary of Energy? Or are you just considering his capacity to drag a reluctant Congress with him? Let me remind you of what he's been able to push through already in the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (ARRA), alone:

$29 billion for Energy Efficiency, including $5 billion to pay for energy efficiency retrofits in low-income homes;

$21 billion for Renewable Generation, such as the installation of wind turbines and solar panels;

$10 billion for Grid Modernization to develop the so-called “smart grid” that will involve sophisticated electric meters, high-tech electricity distribution and transmission grid censors, and energy storage;

$6 billion to support domestic manufacturing of advanced batteries and other components of Advanced Vehicles and Fuels Technologies;

$18 billion for Traditional Transit and High-Speed Rail;

$3 billion to fund crucial research, development, and demonstration of Carbon Capture and Sequestration technologies;

$3 billion for Green Innovation and Job Training to invest in the science, technology, and workforce needed for a clean energy economy;

about $2 billion in Clean Energy Equipment Manufacturing tax credits.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/files/documents/cea_4th_arra_report.pdf

And that's not considering efforts to price carbon (just look to Lindsey Graham's solo ventures to strike a deal to understand how difficult it's going to be).
plan-uts   10:59 AM on 7/20/2010
All economic losers. They will only make the problem worse.
oped1961   02:31 AM on 7/20/2010
green is good
but this guys just after your money folks
every old huckster and used car salesman is out
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SilverWolfSigil   08:59 AM on 7/20/2010
You do know who Ted Danson is right?
ddpalmerr   09:12 AM on 7/20/2010
Yes, he is a large investor in green energy companies. He has a vested interest in wind and solar power.

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