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Thomas Alter

Posted: May 1, 2010 03:18 PM

Keep Protesting The Arizona Diamondbacks

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Wrigley Field, known usually for it's green ivy and drunken yuppies, has entered the center of a national political firestorm. The Arizona Diamondbacks are in Chicago this weekend, and they've brought their state's problem with them. Since Jan Brewer signed last week's controversial Immigration bill, boycotts of Arizona products have been popping up around the country. As demonstrated by the pickets in Chicago, these boycotts have reached Major League Baseball.

The presumed reason why the D-Backs have drawn heat is their owner Ken Kendrick. Kendrick is one of the faces of the franchise, as well as a primary booster for the same politicians who created the bill. Nearly every Arizona business is experiencing losses right now, so it's not surprising that an organization with close ties to the controversial bill is facing protests.

I've heard all the arguments for why protesting the Diamondbacks is pointless: It's unfair to single out Kendrick when there are many team owners. It's not the players fault what's going on in their state. It's just baseball, why bring important political issues into it?

This last point is the most hypocritical. The Diamondbacks have six Latino players on their active roster. I'm sure these guys are overjoyed that they can now legally be pulled over and hassled because of their race. The major argument against this bill is the question, "How does anybody know what an illegal immigrant looks like?" Rodrigo Lopez is a key cog in the D-backs rotation. If you put him in a lineup with four Mexican immigrants without seeing him before, can anybody say they could honestly pick Lopez out? I know I wouldn't be able to. Baseball isn't like football or basketball where the players always physically stand out. This adds to the allure of the game and the irony of this current situation.

This issue does not start or end with the Diamondbacks. Major League Baseball has turned a blind eye to players with murky immigration status such as Joakim Soria, all-star closer for the Royals. There are dozens of players in the big leagues alone whose citizenship is in question. What happens when the Royals come to Arizona? What happens if Soria makes the all-star game in 2011 which is scheduled to be played in Phoenix? If a police officer sees Soria are they legally bound to arrest him? If not, than the bill is pointless. It says that you can pick on the poor migrant worker but not the million-dollar baseball player. This is precisely why the MLB Players Union has come out strongly against the bill. They realize how absurd it is that a quarter of their league would be racially profiled if they lived in Arizona. For a league that's very conscious of their image within the Latino community, this issue could be devastating.

I don't suggest that the Diamondbacks organization take the blame for what their state government has done. Still, sports whether you like it or not, captivate a segment of the American population in a way politics never will. If picketing the Diamondbacks helps brings this issue to the opening of Sports Center, then by all means, get your signs ready.

 
 
 
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01:25 PM on 06/01/2010
As for sports teams. - Boycott all of them. - Make them move.

They just screw up traffic.
01:23 PM on 06/01/2010
How illegal immigration will destroy the US as you know it in ~ 40 years or so.

This Lecture was done in 1999. - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FM1YU-Ni_84

Looking at the chart when he gets there,
What they estimated in 1999 for 2010 is spot on what actually happened.
[Estimated in 1999 it would be just over 300 million in 2010.]

When he gets to the gumball demonstration keep in mind the large jar represents the people in the world that are WORSE OFF than Mexicans.

Because of illegal immigration from 1999 to present we've had to:
Build TWICE as many schools.
Build TWICE as many roads.
Build TWICE as many sewer plants.
Build TWICE as many power plants.
Build TWICE as much about anything else.
Had to add twice as many cops and firemen and teachers. [Or leave areas under serviced.]
And use TWICE as many trees and other natural resources.

Anyone that thinks illegal immigration isn't a significant load on our economy and natural resources is a moron.

If you don't want every city in the US to become a giant LA Slum within our or our children's lifetimes then it has to STOP NOW!

~

Link to just the chart. [Sorry about the quality.]
http://www.numbersusa.com/content/files/imagecache/fpage/files/cck_images/population.jpg...
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12:31 PM on 05/08/2010
Mom, apple pie, baseball and racial profiling -what could be more American?.
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chaz
02:00 PM on 05/05/2010
Wake up! This isn't an Arizona problem it's a national problem. There's an estimated 500 thousand illegals living in Arizona at a cost annually of 2 billion dollars.
It's estimated that over 20 million illegals live in this country to day at an expense that is unsustainable. If you don't think this is a national problem your nuts.

Tommy I suggest you stick to the simple things in life.
09:40 AM on 05/05/2010
No, I already wrote letters to the the MLB, the Arizona Diamondbacks, Philadelphia Phillies, Boston Red Sox, NY Yankees and Mets, etc., to ask them to accept Arizona's enforcement of exiting federal law and support their hosting the MLB All-Star game in 2011. Face it, just as most terrorists are Muslim, most illegals in Arizona are hispanic (along with Muslims who use the southern border to enter the US). I'm all for what Arizona has done, and only hope that other states follow suit. Profiling....YES! Sometimes it's necessary to weed out those that have no right to be here, both Muslim AND hispanic. And yes, I'm a democrat.
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07:59 AM on 05/05/2010
I thought sports were not political - silly me.
10:28 AM on 05/04/2010
What is hypocritical is that most of those Arizona legislators came from the same states that are now protesting Arizona. The native born legislators in Arizona voted mostly against the bill. I've lived in Illinois for the past 10 years now. Don't dare tell me that Chicago is more tolerant of other cultures and has less racism than Arizona.
06:37 PM on 05/03/2010
Thanks Thomas. I've already informed Ken Kendrick and the DBacks organization that I will never take my kids to go to see their games or buy their products if the club continues to take no stance on the SB 1070 issue. Like most teams in MLB, this club has a huge Latino following in their local area. I am letting all of my friends and family members know that they do not deserve our business.
04:14 PM on 05/03/2010
Congratulation Shakira for standing up for the “Human Rights Violations†done by the Arizona’s Government.

Just kidding!

I am a Colombian citizen as well as Shakira does. Colombian laws require the following:

Every just born must be register and prints of their foot is taken.
Every kid must carry an ID card at all times with him or her when demanded by the authorities. Finger printed is also done and parents that fail to ID their kids are subject to punishment.

Every person that reaches 18 years of age must obtain the “CEDULA “ national ID card, also fingerprinted is mandatory, every person must carry this document at all times and authorities can request it any time at any place with no reason.

Every adult must also register for military service, mandatory no exemption.

Why Shakira had never complained about this so-called human right violations?

We have in the USA the Legal Immigrants who abide to the laws and rules of the republic, and the Illegal Aliens who break the laws and do not assimilate to the American society.
Be sure to make a difference among them who abide to the law and those who do not.

Congratulation to the people of Arizona that stand up against the invasion and the corruption in Washington.
08:54 PM on 05/03/2010
I have to agree. No other country in the world worth living in is as indulgent of mass illegal immigration. No sensible government or nation would tolerate 12 million violations of their sovereignty. It is a fundamental right of all sovereign nations to control who does and does not enter their territory so I don't understand the uproar against efforts like these. I don't care how hard an illegal immigrant works or what a great person they are (because most are), but they are not entitled to be here without leave from the government in the same way I'm not entitled to go live in Canada without asking, even though I think it's a nice place. I don't support the Arizona law because I think brown skinned American citizens will be arbitrarily detained and I'm not okay with that, nor do I support mass sweeps and expulsions because I don't think they would be terribly practical, but it concerns me how strong the pro-illegal immigrant lobby is in this country.
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07:20 PM on 05/06/2010
Exactly right! If the illegals had any backbone or any loyalty to their own country (we know they don't have any to the U.S.) they would work to change Mexico for the better. Instead they come here, work under the table for less than minimum wage, use social services and medical services and expect the citizens and LEGAL immigrants of the U.S. to pay for them - not to mention the ESL classes and other education for their children.
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03:38 PM on 05/03/2010
What happens if Soria makes the all-star game in 2011 which is scheduled to be played in Phoenix? If a police officer sees Soria are they legally bound to arrest him? If not, than the bill is pointless. It says that you can pick on the poor migrant worker but not the million-dollar baseball player.

Excellent point.
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02:48 PM on 05/03/2010
In fairness, don't we all have to boycott the Washington Nationals because of decades of Congressional inaction on immigration reform?
02:24 PM on 05/03/2010
Wow, I've come across a cool time machine. Only problem: I ended up in the 1950's, and in the south of all places. Just look at all the made up reasons for being a bigot! The bigots were so clever back then. Like "of course those black men are criminals, our jails are full of them" and "they always want to do things the easy way instead of working for their living."

Problem is it wasn't true of african-americans back then and it isn't true of undocumented Mexicans today. But just look back at the clips of the police/state response to peaceful protesters back then: attack dogs, fire hoses, beatings by police for "probable cause," lynchings.

Yeah you bigots, keep spouting your hatred. Welcome back to the 50's; unbelievable!
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02:40 PM on 05/03/2010
If I sneak into New Zealand looking for the promise of a better, war-free life, and work without documentation, and they catch me, they're going to kick me out.

Are they racists for that?
04:04 PM on 05/03/2010
I would have suggested that the term "unbelieveable" more closely fits you. Where did logic go and how does a legal American citizen be he black, hispanic, asian or otherwise relate to an illegal alien in this country without the proper authorization to even work here?
What's bigotry got to do with it? They're illegally here. Would you welcome the Taliban, or Al Qaeda here as well so we don't offend Middle Easterners? Just because illegal aliens want to work here doesn't mean we have to allow them in until they take the normal path of gaining entry legally.
When will political corectness end and logic and reason return?
02:18 PM on 05/03/2010
Superb idea!! I do it all the time.
02:05 PM on 05/03/2010
Don’t let the facts get in the way of your argument. The law doesn’t allow the police to stop someone because of the color of their skin, or appearance of national origin. What do you think should happen to someone who is pulled over for a traffic violation, or is involved in an accident and is unable or unwilling to produce any identification? Just let them go? Sorry, if you don’t speak English and have no identification I don’t think it should be considered racist to investigate further. I think it is just good, normal, and routine police work. It is classic to hear that it is the job of the Federal government to investigate these matters. I don’t see the Fed’s making routine traffic stops or responding to traffic accidents.
02:32 PM on 05/03/2010
Sure police can stop anyone when a traffic infraction has happened. The BIG difference is now the police in KKKzona can also arrest you if you look like you might be here illegally. Oh and, if you forgot your driver's license (tell me who hasn't done that), you're screwed. You'll be treated like a criminal for doing 42 in a 30; if you're lucky, you can call someone and ask them to bring you your wallet. If not, sit tight and get comfortable.

No one reading this has ever heard of police acting illegally, going overboard, right? Yeah, some fantasy land you live in Brent7777. Just say you're views are bigoted and get it over with!
03:36 PM on 05/03/2010
Actually no, I have never been pulled over by police and realized I forgot my license. If I did, I would expect to be detained. It's my fault!

Tell me where in the law it states you can be arrested if you look like you might be here illegally!!! Look at what the law says, not what might happen if this and if that. Have a little faith in law enforcement.

If I am a bigot for following our laws and expecting the same of others than so be it.
04:30 PM on 05/03/2010
Brent, Do you really expect that if a 60 year old white woman is pulled over for speeding that some cop will ask to "see her papers?" It is fair to assume that this neutrally written law will not be neutrally applied. It's no one's job to investigate anyone based solely on their appearance, and, as much as I understand that border states have a lot of immigrants, Arizona is still part of the United States (at least since "we" took it fair and square from Mexico) and we all have a stake in all people being free from unreasonable search and seizure.
12:17 AM on 05/04/2010
Louis, the point you are missing is the only "papers" the police will ask for is a drivers license. And yes, they will ask that 60 year old white woman for her drivers license if she is speeding. If she has no license the police will do a little more investigation before they consider if safe to let her go. The law does not require anyone to carry a birth certificate, or social security card. If you are unable to provide a license or other ID though, expect to be questiond no matter the color of your skin. How is that racisit. I live in Arizona, we have many hispanic men and women in law enforcement, If I am pulled over for a traffic violation by one of them and they ask me for my drivers license I don't consider them to be racist, why would it be racist if the table was turned.
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08:04 AM on 05/05/2010
I am a 73 year old "white" woman - blue-eyed blonde going grey - and when I went to get my AZ driver's license two years ago I had to produce my birth certificate. I had been licensed in Utah for 18 years and for years in California before that.

EVERYONE has to produce a birth certificate - not just one race.
01:59 PM on 05/03/2010
I am from Phoenix Arizona, a Democrat, and a fourth generation
Mexican American who supports this law! Leave our D Backs alone!
The citizens of Arizona, 70% that support this law also paid a sale tax
to help build Chase Field! Keep politics out of sports! Sports are games
where Democrats and Republicans are united in supporting there city's team.
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03:44 PM on 05/03/2010
Thank you for that. I'm Hispanic and hope the law peacefully succeeds and comes to pass in California.
We need to keep our communities safe. Undocumented criminals are impossible to catch never mind MS13. They don't care if your Hispanic, white, or black when they assault or rape woman. I hope police follow the law as it is written and not pull over based on profiling. As it is written, that is not legal, but could happen. We can only hope for the best out of our boys in blue as this is a hard spot to be in right now. But something had to be done and an extreme route was taken.
KEEP POLITICS OUT OF SPORTS!
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01:22 PM on 05/08/2010
70% of southerners at one time supported slavery at least the ones who could legally vote (white landowners) .so that 70% argument is 100% moot.