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Can Sharing Lipstick, Lip Balm Or Cigarettes Give You Herpes?

Posted: 09/30/11 09:32 AM ET

As an NYC cosmetic dentist, I get asked all manner of questions from patients sitting in my dentist's chair. Many of them become blog posts, in fact. I figure if someone visiting me in person has a question, there are likely thousands of others out there with the same question.

And yes, today's topic comes right from my chair. A young lady asked me last week if sharing lipstick with a friend could transmit herpes. She was worried, because her friend had a cold sore, and while they were out clubbing they ended up sharing lipstick in the bathroom.

Well, I wish I had better news for my patient, but if what her friend had was indeed a cold sore/herpes then yes, it could be transmitted by sharing lipstick.

When discussing herpes in these types of instances, it's important to point out that we are generally talking about herpes type 1 (aka oral herpes), and not herpes type 2 (genital herpes). Both types are spread via contact -- however, in general terms, genital herpes is spread through sexual contact with the infected areas. (1) Oral herpes is also spread via contact with secretions, but since we're talking about the mouth, that takes on a myriad of forms.

It's very safe to say that sharing any or all of the following with a person who has oral herpes increases your risks of getting the same:

  • Lipstick
  • Lip Balms (chapstick, etc.)
  • Eating Utensils
  • Cigarettes
  • Smoking devices (pipes, etc.)
  • Toothbrushes
  • Razors

There's no getting around it -- almost anything that comes in contact with the mouth is going to transmit herpes type 1.

Now, this may not be as bad as it sounds. To start, there are some interesting facts about herpes. The biggest one that I came across is what I always suspected -- most of us already have it. It's estimated that 70 percent of the population has HSV-1 (herpes type 1, or oral herpes). (2) Ever have a cold sore? Then it's overwhelmingly likely you have the virus. It's pretty easy to spread because, as you already likely know, there is no cure. Plus, it does not have to be active (as in, noticeable) to be spread. So something as innocent as a grandparent kissing a child can spread HSV-1.

One thing I found while looking around the web is the prevalence of talk regarding "good herpes" or "bad herpes" (well, not that any herpes is "good," mind you). But there's this perception that HSV-1 is not that big a deal, and HSV-2 is something that carries a stigma. (3) I'm here to say that's really not true -- in general terms, the viruses are essentially the same, save for where they occur. HSV-1 is far more common and can be spread by sharing a fork (hence it gets the "good" label), whereas HSV-2 happens around our genitals and is spread when those genitals come into contact with somebody else's -- hence, the "bad" label. But in my personal opinion, I'll tell you that HSV-1 is no better or worse and even say that HSV-1 can be tougher to live with, because hey, it's right out there for all to see. But then again, since 70 percent of us have it, so what. Herpes is really just another name for cold sores, so is it really that big of a deal? This dentist says, "No, it is not. Refrain from kissing or sharing lipstick, but otherwise, go and live your life."

Ok, let's move on from herpes and just talk a little common sense in regard to sharing lipstick, forks or anything else. Not only can you transmit herpes but almost any other sickness that can be transferred via secretions or saliva. This includes mononucleosis (sometimes called "the kissing disease"), colds, flus, and even hepatitis (4). So basically, I would not be sharing a fork, cigarette, lipstick, toothbrush or any other "mouth related" item with anyone, unless they were someone I was actively kissing (hey, who hasn't sampled something from a spouse's fork?). So that should be the rule: "If you wouldn't kiss this person on the lips, then don't share a fork."

One more thing I want to touch on before we go is HIV. I have been asked "Can I get HIV from sharing a toothbrush or similar?" While I just spent an entire post pointing out things that can be transmitted that way, everything I have found on HIV suggests it is NOT transferred via saliva (5). So rest easy, friends -- while you may get herpes from sharing that lipstick, unless blood was involved, it's not likely you will get HIV from sharing such. Although, in the case of chapped, bleeding lips, I'd say caution is warranted if that situation is present. Hopefully, both parties involved already know that.

So to sum it all up, I like my kissing rule (heck, I like kissing in general!). Until next time, keep smiling!

(1) http://www.webmd.com/genital-herpes/pain-management-herpes

(2) http://depts.washington.edu/herpes/herpes_qa.htm

(3) http://www.herpesonline.org/articles/herpes_virus.html

(4) http://infectiousdiseases.about.com/od/respiratoryinfections/a/kissing.htm

(5) http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/qa/transmission.htm

 

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04:09 AM on 10/16/2011
Shock!!!! My friend who is living with herpes told me a report from CNN said that the world's largest herpes dating and support site MeetHerpes.com which is powered by plenty of fish now has more than 1,560,000 members. Also, more than 80% of members on the site are good looking and sexy.
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BlackYowe
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12:55 AM on 10/04/2011
It's best to use as little make up as possible not only because of bacteria and viruses but because all that crap made in Asia that is full of chemicals is getting right into your bloodstream. How do you suppose nicotine patches and stick on birth control get into your blood stream? The main component of our skin is lipid and any topical preparation that is lipid soluble is absorbed at minimum locally , systemic absorption (getting into blood circulation) depends upon type of preparation and its concentration at the site of application. Pregnant mothers are frequently warned about substances that can pass though the skin and enter the blood stream. It is important to remember your skin is a living organ not a vinyl coating that is water proof.
08:22 AM on 10/03/2011
People should keep this in mind - even if we think it is common sense. I got into a huge argument with a friend that used my lip balm and has oral herpes but she did not think it was a big deal. Needless to say I chucked the lip balm.
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GOODDOC1
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03:36 AM on 10/03/2011
One thing about either form of Herpes -- if you get it in your eye, you can lose the sight there, or even your eye. So wash your hands!
11:16 PM on 10/02/2011
Wow! So glad someone is there to tell me what I already knew - share things that touch my body with someone I'm not intimate with and possibly get a disease. We knew that and should have remembered it from Kindergarten; use someone else's comb and get cooties! I don't even share with my husband or kids - it's just gross people. you're eating or drinking someone else's saliva.
Also, yes you can get HIV from sharing a toothbrush; if each of you has an open wound in your mouth, you can get it - and almost everyone has some open wounds in their mouths at all times, the chances are good you'd be at risk. The risk is small, but it is still (conceivably) there.
11:09 PM on 10/02/2011
What the author fails to mention is that you can transmit HSV1 to the genitals during oral sex. People who think that all HSV infections in the nether regions are type two are mistaken. And, this is probably why the disease is rampant. People think "cold sores" are no big deal so don't tell their partner they have it, and then oral sex occurs leaving someone infected. Unless you have a Western Blot test done you don't really know what type you have.

The stigma is always going to be with people who have it below the belt unfortunately. In all actuality HSV 1 is worse disease to have as it can cause more problems, such as encephalitis.
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10:30 PM on 10/02/2011
They should teach this stuff in school...oh, wait, they can't because of uptight conservatives that think all kids are celibate and do not experiment.
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11:03 PM on 10/02/2011
You are funny....no stupid....no funny...no silly...no funny...no on drugs...no funny, oh darn, your lips look dry wanna use my lip balm?.....stupid!!!
09:55 PM on 10/02/2011
Of course sharing lip balm can transfer sickness & disease, duh.
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07:47 PM on 10/02/2011
When I was a kid growing up in the streets of New York in the 60's I never had to worry about catching aids, herpes, or for that matter most of the deseases of today. Yes there was also deases out there but for the most part there was no problem. Today it is another story. If you are going to kiss someone it has gotten to the point that you want to see their health card and when you are making love wear all kinds of protection to include gloves and face mask. What in the world has happened to the human race? It is scary out there..
07:32 PM on 10/02/2011
Sorry but it IS true that Herpes type II carries a stigma. Perhaps he meant it shouldn't carry one however that is wrong too. Why?

Type I, easily spread through innocent behavior doesn't have the overtone of rampant sex (though since 1 in 6 have genital herpes that's not really the cause).
Also, when he says that type I is more obvious so could be more of a stigma and more of a problem. That's ludicrous. For one thing, it's a COLD sore by common understanding, it simply happens. For another, type II genital herpes can be VERY painful and is incurable as it is a virus and will only go into remission until the next time.
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05:02 PM on 10/02/2011
Well, duh!..............You think maybe?............................gee wiz!
02:07 PM on 10/02/2011
I guess Preparation H is completely out of the question!
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BlackYowe
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04:51 PM on 09/30/2011
LOL I won't use or share make up. My skin breaths and I won't paint over it. The worst thing that makes me ill is the idea of going someplace and getting your nails done. Talk about asking to bring home something gross! UGH!
03:05 PM on 10/02/2011
Actually, the "my skin breaths" (by which, I presume you mean "breathes") thing is false. You shouldn't wear too much makeup, but as long as you have access to oxygen (via your nose and/or mouth), makeup or even full paint won't cause you any problems.
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BlackYowe
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12:49 AM on 10/04/2011
No its not a myth, its science and why poke at me for typos, did I hit too close to home? How do you suppose nicotine patches and stick on birth control work, BamaRainbow? The main component of our skin is lipid and any topical preparation that is lipid soluble is absorbed at least locally , systemic absorption(getting into blood circulation) depends upon type of preparation and its concentration at the site of application. Pregnant mothers are frequently warned about substances that can pass though the skin and enter the blood stream.

http://www.ncsu.edu/ehs/www99/right/handsMan/lab/skin%20absorption.pdf
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dickn2000b
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03:59 PM on 10/02/2011
You are a wise woman. I wish I could convince my wife of the dangers lurking in nail parlors.
09:53 AM on 09/30/2011
I'm sure tacos and White Owl Cigars can carry viruses.