Maliki Endorses Obama Timeline in Huge Blow for McCain, Bush

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In a stunning diplomatic breakthrough for Barack Obama, Iraq's prime minister yesterday endorsed the Democratic candidate's 16-month timeline for withdrawing combat troops from Iraq.
Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki endorsed the Obama approach in a July 18 interview with the German magazine Der Spiegel, just as President Bush and Sen. John McCain were touting a vague new commitment to a "horizon" for withdrawal. The New York Times did not report the Maliki statement in its July 19 edition.

Uncertainty about Maliki's surprise statement persists since his top political spokesman told the Times only one week ago that troop withdrawals would take three to five years, if not longer. [NYT, July 11]. The number of American troops he would request as counter-terrrorism units, trainers and advisers could be tens of thousands.

But as Obama's plane touched down in Afghanistan, Maliki's comments were having a far-reaching effect on the war and presidential politics, with the Maliki government withdrawing from George Bush and making McCain appear foolish.

This could be the "Philippine option" predicted in Ending the War in Iraq, in which the US arranged behind the scenes for the Manila government to request the departure of the American fleet.
While the sequencing may be accidental, it appears that the Obama forces could reap a windfall. Obama will seem more successful than Bush in managing the last stages of the war, depriving McCain of the claim to superior foreign policy experience. Obama's imminent arrival in Baghdad could seem like a victory lap in the foreign policy "primary."

Why would Maliki break so sharply with his long-time US partner in the White House? Are the Iraqis more adept at playing American politics than the White House is?

As noted before at this site, Iraqi public opinion -- Shi'a and Sunni -- strongly favors a deadline for American troop withdrawal. The provincial elections to be held later this year [at the insistence of the US] will produce victories for candidates who demand ending the occupation, both in Sunni areas like Anbar and Mahdi Army areas like Sadr City. Maliki's coalition must appear to stand for Iraqi sovereignty and the departure of US forces.

Somewhere in the background is Iran with its strong ties to the entire Shi'a community in Iraq. The Iranian interest is in keeping Shi'a factions unified in a demand that the US troops and bases are folding up and returning home. Iran believes that a retreating US will be less able to strike from positions of strength on the ground if a US-Iran conflict takes place.

Besides Iran and the Shi'a bloc, the big winners in this scenario would be the multinational oil companies now subtly assuring themselves access to Iraq's oilfields after thirty years of absence.
The Bush Administration could mask defeat in claims of "mission accomplished", perhaps with garlands of flowers provided by Maliki at a joint ceremony.

Though genuine peace would a blessing, the real losers stand to be the Sunni minority which is the backbone of the insurgency, and the long-suffering Shi'a poor in Sadr City whose social-economic needs are little recognized by the dominant Shi'a party. In the region's geo-politics, Saudi Arabia would be angered at the rise of greater Shi'a and Iranian power in potentially competitive oil fields. And despite their alarm about Iran's nuclear plans, Israel would welcome an Iraq shorn of its power in the Sunni world.

As for al-Qaeda in Mesopotamia, they could claim a victory in helping drive the American forces out of Iraq, but their narrow public support would shrink further if Iraqis recover sovereignty. A loophole in the Obama plan, certainly endorsed by Maliki, would allow American counter-terrorism units to go after alleged al-Qaeda units operating in Iraq as US combat forces draw down.

The huge "if" hovering over this sudden development is simply whether the Bush Administration can force Maliki to back down from his statement, or at least retreat from going further.

Here is Maliki's statement, delivered as Obama's visit to the region was beginning:

Whoever is thinking about the shorter term [for withdrawal] is closer to reality. Artificially extending the stay of U.S. troops would cause problems... As soon as possible, as far as we're concerned... Those who operate on the premise of short time periods in Iraq today are being more realistic... Artificially prolonging the tenure of US troops in Iraq would cause problems. U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama talks about 16 months. That, we think, would be the right timeframe for a withdrawal, with the possibility of slight changes.


Tom Hayden is the author of Ending the War in Iraq [2007].

 
 

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- jialfpar See Profile I'm a Fan of jialfpar permalink

Maliki is part of a democratically elected government. Bush and Co. made a big deal of these elections. If Maliki and his party are truly theocratic, is that not the wish of the Iraqi people? Should we not respect their decision?

I wonder if Maliki sees Obama as a district attorney who has come to rescue him from a Mob protection racket.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 PM on 07/21/2008
- rrussell See Profile I'm a Fan of rrussell permalink

Americans want withdrawal from Iraq and U.S. troops home, U.S. troops won the war in 2003, there's stability and security. America needs to CHANGE THE COURSE in Afghanistan, because Mujahadeen (with U.S. support) won the war in the 1980's, (Soviet Union 26,000 deaths/injuries and 1 million Afghan deaths (http://www.answers.com/topic/soviet-war-in-afghanistan)), Afghans and Americans want PEACE, not war funding, Afghans need schools, hospitals, bridges, roads.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 PM on 07/21/2008
- Garvagh See Profile I'm a Fan of Garvagh permalink

The Iranian government wants stability in Iraq and Afghanistan, and it supports the territorial integrity of both countries. The destruction of the Sunni power structure in 2003 meant that the only way the Sunnis will be able to exercise power effectively in Iraq is in combination with Kurdish and Shiite leaders, with overall Shiite control a certainty even if the US withdrew all of its forces within the next year. Iran tried to head off the US invasion of Iraq because it feared the civil war that in fact resulted.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 PM on 07/21/2008
- ApolloSpeaks See Profile I'm a Fan of ApolloSpeaks permalink

MALIKI, IRAN AND THE INTERVIEW

The Maliki-Hakim gov't are pro-Iran, pro-Hezbollah, pro-Hamas. It is largely the creation and creature of Iran. When Tehran tells Maliki-Hakim to jump they ask how high. For them to defy Iran would be perilous. Hakim heads the most powerful faction in the Shiite dominated gov't. He is a committed theocrat whose vision for Iraq is modelled on Iran's oppressive regime. Which brings us to Maliki's interview: Because Iran endorses Obama's 16 month plan, the mullahs want US troops out of the region to achieve their geopolitical aims, they will pressure Maliki-Hakim to advance Obama's candidacy. This interveiw could be the start of that process.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:16 PM on 07/21/2008
- ApolloSpeaks See Profile I'm a Fan of ApolloSpeaks permalink

The mullahs are in love with Obama and his plan to remove US forces from the region. As Ahmadinejad said last summer. As soon as the US departs we will fill the power vacuum with our regional friends." What Ahmad seems to have in mind is a kind of Hitler Stalin Pact for dividing up Iran with the Saudi-Sunni Bloc the Pact that plunged the world into the 9th rung of hell.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 AM on 07/21/2008
- neesy08 See Profile I'm a Fan of neesy08 permalink

Right, and I am the Queen of Sheba.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:10 PM on 07/21/2008
- arvay See Profile I'm a Fan of arvay permalink

"Why would Maliki break so sharply with his long-time US partner in the White House?

My guess is that he's grown accustomed to having his head firmly affixed to his body, and hopes to continue that arrangement.

Most of the Iraqis want us out, Sadr is clearly restraining his well-armed militia so we can claim "victory" and Iran is poised to firm up its relationship with Iraq as a regional power. With a friendly Iraq, Iran also gets a superb early-warning system against an Israeli attack and a very useful platform for a counterstrike.

Maliki has his own oil, I doubt he cares squat for what the Saudis think. If he's smart, he will treat the Sunis with equanimity and squelch religious strife, there's plenty of oil money for that.

Bottom line is that this is a huge win for Iran, sponsored by George W. Bush, who should get an Iranian national holiday named for him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:53 AM on 07/21/2008
- ApolloSpeaks See Profile I'm a Fan of ApolloSpeaks permalink

As Mike Weir of CNN is tireless in pointing out the Sunni leadership is hell bent on taking back Iraq from the Shiites. They hate Maliki and the Shiite leadership and are training an army of 100,000 strong to revive the insurgency once US forces depart. That is why Maliki will not impose a time table for US withdrawal. he doesn't feel equal to the growing Sunni challenge.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 AM on 07/21/2008
- SnapShots See Profile I'm a Fan of SnapShots permalink

I must remember to take a couple of deep breaths and concentrate on the situation, not the person, which is why, Apollo, I am not attacking you personally, but your words.

Mike Weir means nothing. He is an embedded correspondent. He knows nothing of real Middle East or Iraqi culture. He sees and hears what our military decides. None of these mainstream media people would do what they do if it wasn't for the money. I don't give them any credibility.

The Shiites and Sunnis got along just fine before the US went in and screwed everything up. They intermarried. There were shia and sunni mixed families. Nobody cared who was Sunni or Shia.

The troubles began when the U.S. started promoting a power struggle in Iraq. Once groups/factions started to get power, they liked it and didn't want to give it up. Deep down it's really not Shia vs. Sunni. It's faction leader against faction leader. The U.S. is stirring the pot, providing money and guns to people who eventually end up fighting each other.

To sit around and overanalyze this to nausium is a complete waste of time. Give the Iranians their country back and they'll be just fine.

And don't tell me I'm an idiot. I have Iraqi friends who stayed in Iraq as long as they could before fleeing to Egypt. I have had months of time with them in Egypt discussing this whole disastrous situation.

Bush is manipulating us. Wake up!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:53 PM on 07/21/2008
- civillibertieslost See Profile I'm a Fan of civillibertieslost permalink

An interesting side note, and one that is a fact, is that "insurgency" is the American/British term for what the Iraqi's refer to as "liberation". Over the recent years I've found that the reporting from the American & British media should never be the sole source for information for this war.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:07 PM on 07/21/2008
- arvay See Profile I'm a Fan of arvay permalink

That' s funny because he's just called for one. It's true we've bribed the Sunni tribes into quietness, if he's smart he'll continue. I'm sure Weir has found some Sunni leaders who'd like to return to the old Saddam days, but Maliki seems to be able to handle himself. In any case, we don't need to re-insert ourselves into a civil war.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 AM on 07/21/2008
- SEQUOIABISON See Profile I'm a Fan of SEQUOIABISON permalink

Transferring the battlefield to Afghanistan will be fraught with great difficulty and even greater danger for our troops than Iraq.

History recalls the many nations who suffered defeat in this part of the world, the British lost 16,000 troops back in 1842, a horrific massacre and defeat for the British Empire and their occupation of that entire region. The Russians have also tried to subdue the Afghans but to no avail.

Afghanistan is the gateway to Southeast Asia and its enormous Gas and Oil resources, hopefully we will not lose sight of our mission to capture the perpetrators of 911 with the help of all nations belonging to the UN not just another American catastrophic solo adventure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 07/20/2008
- juangault See Profile I'm a Fan of juangault permalink

It might be better to focus on getting the people who are trying to get us, and get out. Let India and China divy up the hydrocarbons. For the US to become lean and mean again, we have to somehow get out of the oil importing business. I'd say start by trying to be hemispheric self sufficient, only importing from the America's, then only from Canada, and finally, being self sufficient. It won't be easy, but it will be the right thing to do. We could return to fighting defensive wars against tyranny with allies. If the Muslims burn China like how they did it to Ghengis Khan, then those two world powers could wear each other out, maybe in Afghanistan. America would benefit from passing THAT torch on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:28 PM on 07/21/2008
- KillgoreTrout43 See Profile I'm a Fan of KillgoreTrout43 permalink

"Why would Maliki break so sharply with his long-time US partner in the White House? Are the Iraqis more adept at playing American politics than the White House is?"

My guess would be yes. The bush white house has never learned, because they don't play by the rules. They are so used to cheating and underhanded approaches to political problems, that they have no idea what real diplomacy is. It's like the kid who cheats on all his college exams, and then gets out into the real world and becomes a failure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 PM on 07/20/2008
- athy See Profile I'm a Fan of athy permalink

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/07/19/almaliki.obama/index.html#cnnSTCText

Is Iraq's prime minister back-tracking here? Is there any way we can get transcripts of original Reuters interview- and have them translated by impartial third party?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 AM on 07/20/2008
- chrisincalif See Profile I'm a Fan of chrisincalif permalink

Why not read Der Spiegel's English language website directly:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:54 PM on 07/20/2008
- booksnmore4you See Profile I'm a Fan of booksnmore4you permalink

Ah, I see he finally got strong-armed by the Bush regime. He knows which side is buttering his bread.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 PM on 07/20/2008
- SShaw490 See Profile I'm a Fan of SShaw490 permalink

No, all he said is he didn't want to be misconstrued as endorsing Obama as a candidate. He's not. He's endorsing Obama's timeline for withdrawal from Iraq - which of course implies Maliki doesn't think much of McCain's plan to never leave Iraq - ever.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 PM on 07/20/2008
- Vinca See Profile I'm a Fan of Vinca permalink

I am VERY GLAD that we finnaly got it right, MALIKI WANTS TO END THE OCCUPATION BY 2010, This admin wants to stay forever, IT'S BEEN VERY PROFITABLE FOR SOME OF THEM

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:05 AM on 07/24/2008
- CTmom13 See Profile I'm a Fan of CTmom13 permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 AM on 07/20/2008
- MaryfromMontcoPA See Profile I'm a Fan of MaryfromMontcoPA permalink

Worried about Iraqi chaos when we leave? Check out what Iraqi Raed Jarrar of Raed in the middle has to say about the Iraq he knows. Disarmingly direct. Totally rings true. Irresistible reality.

http://www.pinkyshow.org/archives/episodes/080704_raedjarrar/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 AM on 07/20/2008
- MaryfromMontcoPA See Profile I'm a Fan of MaryfromMontcoPA permalink

Regarding the "sectarian chaos" that is predicted to break out when we leave, check out what Iraqi Raed jarrar explains about Iraq as known by Iraqis. As opposed to the sectarian strife that Bush/Cheney's (imperial) governor Paul Bremer set up after our initial war of aggression there.

Disarmingly direct. Hard to stop watching because it makes so much sense.

http://www.pinkyshow.org/archives/episodes/080704_raedjarrar/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 AM on 07/20/2008
- kjdwyer See Profile I'm a Fan of kjdwyer permalink

Thank you so much for posting this link. Everyone should have to listen to Raed Jarrar before forming an opinion about the U.S. occupation of Iraq.

It reminded me of a lecture of Noam Chomsky's I saw at Columbia University a few years back. Both of them have this amazing facility to cut through all of the propoganda and identify REALITIES that, for whatever reason, are being obfiscated and/or manipulated for a variety of imperial interests.

A brilliant piece; thank you again for posting it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 PM on 07/21/2008
- Doofus See Profile I'm a Fan of Doofus permalink

This clarification just in, from the NYT blog, by way
of the US military"s Central Command press office:

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/19/maliki-backs-obamas-troop-withdrawal-plan/

Dr. Ali al-Dabbagh, a spokesman for the Iraqi government, issued a statement saying Mr. Maliki"s statement had been "as not conveyed accurately regarding the vision of Senator Barack Obama, U.S. presidential candidate, on the timeframe for U.S. forces withdrawal from Iraq," but it did not address a specific error. It did soften his support for Mr. Obama"s plan and implied a more tentative approach to withdrawing troops. More of the statement, which came from the U.S. military"s Central Command press office:

Al-Dabbagh explained that Mr. al-Maliki confirmed the existence of an Iraqi vision stems from the reality with regard to Iraq security needs, as the positive developments of the security situation and the improvement witnessed in Iraqi cities makes the subject of U.S. forces" withdrawal within prospects, horizons and timetables agreed upon and in the light of the continuing positive developments on the ground, and security that came within the Strategic Plan for Cooperation which was laid and developed by Mr. Maliki and President George Bush. The Iraqi government appreciates and values the efforts of all the friends who continue to support and supporting Iraqi security forces. ...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 07/20/2008
- Doofus See Profile I'm a Fan of Doofus permalink

This clarification just in, from the NYT blog, by way
of the US military"s Central Command press office:

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/19/maliki-backs-obamas-troop-withdrawal-plan/

Dr. Ali al-Dabbagh, a spokesman for the Iraqi government, issued a statement saying Mr. Maliki"s statement had been "as not conveyed accurately regarding the vision of Senator Barack Obama, U.S. presidential candidate, on the timeframe for U.S. forces withdrawal from Iraq," but it did not address a specific error. It did soften his support for Mr. Obama"s plan and implied a more tentative approach to withdrawing troops. More of the statement, which came from the U.S. military"s Central Command press office:

Al-Dabbagh explained that Mr. al-Maliki confirmed the existence of an Iraqi vision stems from the reality with regard to Iraq security needs, as the positive developments of the security situation and the improvement witnessed in Iraqi cities makes the subject of U.S. forces" withdrawal within prospects, horizons and timetables agreed upon and in the light of the continuing positive developments on the ground, and security that came within the Strategic Plan for Cooperation which was laid and developed by Mr. Maliki and President George Bush. The Iraqi government appreciates and values the efforts of all the friends who continue to support and supporting Iraqi security forces. ...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 07/20/2008
- eNewsReference See Profile I'm a Fan of eNewsReference permalink

I think leaders abroad will welcome a clean break from the Bush administration especially coming from someone whose views were shaped by real experiences of growing up and having family abroad... http://www.enewsreference.wordpress.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 AM on 07/20/2008
- hank48188 See Profile I'm a Fan of hank48188 permalink

Last week Obama did a interview with Fareed Zakaria and Fareed asked him a question about that. Fareed asked Obama what he remembered most about living in Indonesia, Obama said "It was when my Mother told me she married a man from Indonesia and that we were moving there" That must be Obama most vivid memory of his life in Indonesia, sounds like it put him into shock for a year and really rocked his little world. What's so funny about this is that more than a year ago Obama said his foreign policy experience is better than the other DEMS running because he had lived overseas.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:03 PM on 07/20/2008
- AbbieXHoffman See Profile I'm a Fan of AbbieXHoffman permalink

I don't think it meant he really had more policy experience, its just that BO was saying that he has a wider global view of the world in part because of his international upbringing.

I buy that. I lived over seas when I was younger and it really does change the way one looks at the world. Europe, for example is keenly aware of details of issues outside their country, unlike many Americans who have a US-centric view of the world and rarely know (on average) what's going on in the rest of the world.

Unlike Bush's worldview of throwing our weight around to demand people follow our lead, Obama's approach appears to be one of harmony and his understanding that the leader of the free world has to act with stunning grace, respect while wielding its power for the good of the whole, not JUST the good of the US.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 PM on 07/23/2008
- marchamlin See Profile I'm a Fan of marchamlin permalink

If you would actually read the book, Obama has a lot of vivid memories from that point in his life. Your assumpions have made you look very ignorant on the subject.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 07/20/2008
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