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Q Gathering 2010: Heralding the Arrival of a Post-Christian America

Posted: 05/11/10 12:03 AM ET

American Christianity is beginning to look a whole lot different.

Picture hundreds of jeans-clad 20- and 30-somethings filling the floor of a vintage opera hall in Chicago, armed with laptops, smart phones, and iPads. Picture a stage backed by a large screen, dark but for a large white image in the center -- not a cross, but an upper-case "Q." Picture a guy with the shaggy blond bangs of an indie-rock guitarist taking the stage to launch the proceedings with the matter-of-fact acknowledgment that we have entered a new "post-Christian context." Imagine three days of quick-hit presentations on everything from emotionally intelligent robots to nuclear weapons abolition, from fatherlessness to coffee-growing for the common good -- and nary a word about abortion or "reclaiming America for Christ."

If the arrival of the "post-Christian age" is upsetting to this emerging generation of (mostly) evangelicals, they did an awfully good job of hiding it at the recent "Q" gathering -- the signature annual event for these next-generation Jesus followers. In fact, judging from the spirit and energy reverberating through the hall, I get the sense that they find the whole thing liberating.

"Christians can bemoan the end of Christian America," shrugs Q creator and convener Gabe Lyons, "or we can be optimistic about it. What's good is that it forces us to get back to the basics of serving people and loving our neighbors. Through history, Christianity has affected more people from that position than from a position of dominance."

If this is how it's going to play out, the end of Christian America could turn out to be a profound blessing for American Christianity.

You can learn a lot about something from its name. Besides its edgy graphics and stage design, Q provokes surprise and curiosity with that name -- a name that reveals volumes about these young- and mid-adulthood Christians and where they are coming from in their conceptions of the faith and its place in the culture.

As they keenly sense, a major problem with evangelical Christianity in our time has been its bold assertion that is has an answer -- the answer -- to everything, namely, a particular understanding of the Bible and how it applies to present-day issues. Not that they are any less on fire for Jesus, but these Q-generation Christians are comfortable in complexity and ambiguity. The new guard seems to be pleading with the elders: "It's not that simple!"

Hence, the name "Q" and the ethos it suggests. Think of it an ongoing question-and-answer session--Q & A, but minus the "A."

"Having the quick answer to everything doesn't exhibit the humility that Christ exhibited," Lyons explains. "We don't want to project answers to questions that people aren't even asking."

Clearly, one of those questions-they-aren't-asking (or not asking as much) is how to get to heaven. A major focus of conventional evangelicalism, eternal salvation gets less emphasis from the emerging generation. Addressing the hells on earth is what really interests the activists, church-planters, innovators, and social entrepreneurs who form this loose movement.

Between pauses for praise songs and worship, the Q conference buzzed with new possibilities for meeting human need and alleviating suffering around the planet. Among the projects and causes promoted by speakers in their three-, nine-, and 18-minute time slots: gospel-fueled drives for nuclear disarmament and protection of the environment, a shoe company that gives a free pair to a poor child for each pair sold, a plan to reform American education, and a coffee company that grows its beans in Rwandan fields where former enemies now work together. But don't get the impression that this was a grand exercise in leaning left. One presentation, for example, made the case for delaying sex until marriage.

Fewer than a third of the participants at this year's Q are 40 or older. More than half work in professions -- or "channels," in Q parlance -- other than the church world, including business, arts, media, and education. One table included a brain surgeon from Kansas and the creator of a large organic farm in Idaho dedicated to feeding poor people. Appearing on stage were high-profile figures like CNN reporter Soledad O'Brien, who reflected on her recent experiences covering the disaster in Haiti, and Joshua Dubois, head of President Obama's Office of Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships.

In his new book To Change the World, religion professor James Davison Hunter uses the term "faithful presence" to describe his vision for a new kind of publicly applied Christianity. Hunter, a man in his fifties, is not a part of the Q generation. But he is clearly a sympathizer. He advances a model that that eschews political battles and aggressive promotion of doctrine. Hunter calls on Christians instead to use their lives and institutions as vessels to bring goodness and compassion into their social and professional spheres and the public square.

The 35-year-old Lyons has perhaps an even more compelling way to describe a role for Christians in pluralistic America -- to be a "blessing" to society. A huge and necessary first step, he says, is for evangelicals to break free of the Christian subculture they constructed over the last century and engage with non-evangelicals. "We have a chance now," Lyons says, "to show that following Jesus is not defined by heritage or politics, but by the church serving as countercultural example and as a curious, winsome presence in a broken world."

If anyone understands the attitudes of younger Americans on questions of faith and culture, it's Lyons. A graduate of Jerry Falwell's Liberty University, Lyons is the co-author, with David Kinnaman, of a highly influential book that used extensive public opinion research to explore and document public perceptions of Christianity. The title of the 2007 volume summed up the findings with a stark phrase: unChristian. Since then, Lyons has been on a mission to help steer Christianity in a direction that makes it more humble, hopeful, and attractive, a vision he describes in his forthcoming book The Next Christians: The Good News About the End of Christian America.

The Q cadre has its work cut out. Around the time of their late-April gathering, the news outside was menacing. The storylines about the Gulf of Mexico oil spill were changing from "problem" to "disaster." Anger was boiling over the just-passed immigration law in Arizona. A would-be terrorist almost succeeded in wreaking carnage with a Times Square car bomb.

But in their presentations and intermittent table conservations, the young Christian idealists seemed undaunted. They plotted ways to use social media more effectively to collaborate on projects. They made commitments for serious action that they would take over the next year. They saw opportunities to take immediate action -- and did. Such was the case with one foursome who, when asked for a few coins by an African-American homeless man on their way to a nearby sandwich shops, did him one better and invited him to dinner. What followed was 45 minutes of intense listening, prayer, and, at the urging of their homeless guest, a quick burst of gospel-singing on the street corner.

If this is what the end of Christian America looks like, it portends good things for Christianity. Not to mention the rest of that "post-Christian" society sharing space and time with these galvanized young Jesus followers.

 
 
 
American Christianity is beginning to look a whole lot different. Picture hundreds of jeans-clad 20- and 30-somethings filling the floor of a vintage opera hall in Chicago, armed with laptops, smart ...
American Christianity is beginning to look a whole lot different. Picture hundreds of jeans-clad 20- and 30-somethings filling the floor of a vintage opera hall in Chicago, armed with laptops, smart ...
 
 
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08:05 PM on 05/13/2010
This seems to be more about being “post-religious right” than “post-christian”. Principles like loving the poor and fighting for social justice are at the very heart of Christianity’s historical core. These folks are merely reconnecting to the real Christian narrative that fundamentalist bible-belters have hijacked. I think the “liberal” media is also much to blame for molding Christianity into what is basically the moral majority’s b!tch. As long as outlets like Huffpo and MSNBC keep showcasing the inanity of what is actually a very small slice of Christendom, then Americans will think that the moral majority is actually the majority, when it’s not. There are plenty of Christians who are gay, don’t believe in eternal damnation, or are hyper-liberal anarchists. There are movements representing each of the aforementioned but they don’t get the media coverage of fundamentalist wingnuts, nor care to.

What all of these seemingly random sects do have in common, however, is the shared belief that a Jewish dude named Jesus entered the world 2000 years ago to put an end to evil and suffering through his death and resurrection. They wait for the hopeful day when all will be made right and “every tear will be wiped away”. They may might over the details of how, why, when this will all happen, but the core hope remains the same.
02:40 PM on 06/09/2010
I don't think the Q attendees are saying that they themselves are 'post-Christian,' though your label of 'post-religious right' seems accurate. They are saying that American culture as a whole is now post-Christian, and the point of the article is that, they don't necessarily view that as a problem.
01:03 PM on 05/12/2010
This weekend I heard some radio preacher trying to convince listeners to give 10% of their income to God. And by "God," he means him. It was like listening to Beavis and Butthead on the radio. Evangelization attempts like this are typical, and the reason organized religion is loosing followers by the the day. I personally believe in what Jesus stood for. No organized religion today represents my perception of him. The idea of an organized religion with a hierarchy is antithetical to what Jesus stood for. On the contrary, Jesus rebelled against the very organized religion he was born into - Judaism.

I view this Q movement with a healthy dose of skepticism - although it seems they're on the right track. The bottom line, don't tell me how to live a moral life, show me.
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04:02 PM on 05/12/2010
I think, if you take it at face value, Jesus' message was exactly that you(anybody) don't need religion, church, priests, rabbis, etc. you dont need any of it because he taught his followers that they could have a direct relationship with God.
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12:31 PM on 05/12/2010
Another in a long line of evangelical gimmicks to capture the youth for Christ by being "relevant." We got blue jeans, rock music, Christian tattoos and iPads to go along with our delusions and control. Oh, and by the way we need some money.
I can see the planning of this event: "And, and, we'll have iPads!." "Yes, yes, that will be cool, the kids these days, they like their iPads."
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04:04 PM on 05/12/2010
I am very close to somebody who is directly involved in this type of youth ministry development. That is exactly the kind of cynical thinking that goes on.
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07:25 PM on 05/13/2010
I used to be involved with this too, until I saw the light - the real light of the sun shining upon me.
10:41 AM on 05/13/2010
Agreed. The movement seems to be almost entirely about re-packaging and marketing, and only incidentally about a new message. (Although moving away from a literal and simplistic reading of the bible is altogether healthy--sure to get them labled as "moral relativists, who believe in nothing.")
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Fed up, dang it!
03:59 AM on 05/12/2010
Too many for too long have used christianity and religion in general for their own ends that I find it very difficult to take any of it seriously. It is shameful that so many have taken something that has the potential for good and turned it around to serve selfish causes, I am not inclined to endorse any of it.

I don't claim any serious affiliation although I was born into a catholic family, I don't participate. The shame and stain that Catholicism has placed on itself is offensive and repugnant. Destructive self-interest has muddied the waters and until that changes, I'm uninterested.
07:00 PM on 05/11/2010
I am a young 20-something evangelical and I have personally attended "emerging" movements and confrences like the one described in this article. Everyone wears dark clothes, drinks a lot of coffee, has a lot of apple products, and in general think themselves very deep and important. There's usually some rock bands playing (which I personally enjoy) and people have weird haircuts and religious tatoos.

At first it feels refreshing - here are all of these cool young people ready to change the world for Jesus, as opposed to those boring old people in the traditional churches who read the Bible and listen to sermons. But after a while it begins to feel hollow. These people aren't going to change the world. They're not "soul-winners," and very few people become Christians because of them. They talk a good game, but very few of them are actually involved in volunteer work. The reason they fight for politcal causes like nuclear disarmament and global warming is A) they're not particularly interested in the gospel or bringing people to salvation and B) these causes demand very little personal sacrifice.

Many are just hipsters rebelling against their evangelical parents who have passion for everything except God. They'll bail once they settle down and find steady employment and have a family.
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04:06 PM on 05/12/2010
Many are just crafty marketing folks, developing a new or expanded market.
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01:53 PM on 05/11/2010
If the positive actions become more and more and the prayer and praise begin to fade and disappear, they might have something here.
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04:53 PM on 05/11/2010
Stop talking them out of it. :)
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01:37 PM on 05/11/2010
"Having the quick answer to everything doesn't exhibit the humility that Christ exhibited"
Good point. As related in the Bible, Christ often talked in parables with the point being that you should reflect on his answers and not just take them at face value. Asking the questions and not focusing on the anwers is a good first step!
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04:08 PM on 05/12/2010
After all, that's how man invented god in the first place.
09:55 AM on 05/15/2010
Agreed...quick answers definitely are not always the best answers. HOWEVER, I would venture to say that asking a lot of questions, but never seeking or believing that there is a definitive answer is really just saying "what ever I want to believe (with or without evidence) is the truth." It is the kind of "anything goes" to "each his own" mentality, that is fine for people just trying to be "good people" for the sake of being "good people". To say that ultimate truth is very difficult to answer and should lead to more and more questions is not a great concept, but "Jesus Christ either IS the way the truth and the light" OR he is not. Why waste your time asking questions that you already believe have no answers? There is nothing profound or inciteful about making up new religions that ask lots of questions, but never lead you to anything.
11:03 AM on 05/15/2010
Ok..what I meant to say was that ultimate truth IS often difficult to answer and SHOULD lead to more and more questions. This is a great concept. (Take out the "not.")
Except, what is the point in asking if you really believe that there are NO answers?
01:27 PM on 05/11/2010
Thanks Tom for writing about Q. It was a pleasure meeting you in Chicago. We chatted briefly backstage. I appreciate your perspective and fair assessment of the event.

Love your work :-)

I hope this will be the beginning of a healthy, reciprocal relationship between Church and Culture.
11:23 AM on 05/11/2010
This sounds really great, and this generation of christians sound like the REAL "salt of the earth" types. I guess my question would be - what does any of this have to do with christianity? You will find just as many people of other beliefs and non-believers to agree with these principles. Why not just leave christianity out of it completely, and advocate for people in need, repsonsibility for our planet, etc. because we care; because it's the right thing to do; because we have human empathy????
12:35 PM on 05/11/2010
Right, all it takes is people of good will deciding to work together, there's no need for religion in the mix. Religion easily ends up being a divisive issue in so many instances.

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01:32 PM on 05/11/2010
Agreed. Probably the only difference between the two groups would be the REASON they are doing it. Christians may say "to glorify god", or something like that, whereas atheists would give the reasons in my previous comment. But we're all there pushing for the same result, so in my view it's better to leave divisiveness behind and work together.
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12:55 PM on 05/11/2010
Well, I think in part that's why 'Christianity's' gone so far off the rails and become such a menace and destructive force: they become more about 'Christianity' than about actually living up to their own sales pitches. This could be just another crass attempt at rebranding and image therapy to keep some people acting like a 'silent majority' for the aggressive-and-oppressive ones, to be roped in later to the nasty stuff when fear and disillusion set in,

Or it could be some sincere people who aren't going to take the bait-and-switch a religion concerned only with political and social and money influence sells.

The author's lament that they didn't emphasise claiming Christianity to be the sole authority and claim to goodness and spirituality... May actually mean some are solving that problem and hope to be good neighbors to the rest of us, rather than claiming to be overlords, blaming everyone else for the world's problems, claiming non-Christianity must be 'evil deceptions,'' and the good things other people do as 'Well, Jesus must have made you do that.'

Those claims to 'only salvation' simply ring hollow in a pluralistic world. They dehumanize others, and in a 'post-Christian world' they must realize that this won't fly. Christianity in those regards, claiming authority over life and death and souls and kings.... spent a long time deserving its reputation: ranging from 'exploitive and oppressive and imperialist hypocrisy' to usually, at best, 'Self-centered and patronizing hypocrisy.'
05:25 PM on 05/11/2010
The problem I see with the foundation of evangelical christianity is that at the core of the belief are three destructive premises:

1. Human beings are fallen, sinful (when people assume they are depraved, they act depraved);
2. Belief that jesus christ died for our sins is the ONLY way to heaven (christians have the only Truth)
3. They have a responsibility to share the good news with the world (evangelism).

Because these assumptions are so central to christianity, any belief system that does not include these beliefs would no longer be labelled as such. I am happy to see that the new generation is more evolved and rational; but if they still believe the above premises they are still going to be a negative and divisive force in society (in my opinion).
11:21 AM on 05/11/2010
Great article. I'm a filmmaker who attended Q in Chicago. Gabe's philosophy and talks are always spot on. The event in general is one of those rare opportunities where I can recharge my batteries so that I can go about making my contribution to the "Common Good" of the world through my work.
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08:02 AM on 05/11/2010
"What's good is that it forces us to get back to the basics of serving people and loving our neighbors."

WHOA!
My hands went right up into the air.
It's about time someone said that!
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12:33 AM on 05/11/2010
Speaking as a long-time heathen, first-time critic(OK, that's not honest, more like frequent flyer) of religion in general, I'm perfectly happy to see various forms of organized religion take a Big Step Back, Christianity included. If it's not the nuts, fruits, and flakes, it's the fraud. Or, in the modern context, the religious feuding between sects, religions, and even, countries. The Invisible Man routine may be profitable, may make some people think they're pretty darn important, but at the point when various types think that it then empowers them somehow to all but start dictating how other people are to live, that's that little dotted line they shouldn't stride across, because suddenly you're advancing beyond religion, into theocracy, and we've all seen how great THAT action works out overseas, right? So, don't go there.
07:58 PM on 06/10/2010
Good point!