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Was Iraq Lost on the Playing Fields of New England?


Recently, I had the pleasure to interview Louis Auchincloss, one of the great American novelists, and undoubtedly the greatest American novelist of power, money and politics. He was almost constitutionally incapable of talking about the war in Iraq but he did draw some interesting parallels with Vietnam, and specifically, the class of patrician who "pushed" that "disgusting" war. The following extract is from my profile of Auchincloss in the Sept 22nd Financial Times:

"I used to say to my father," he says," 'If my class at Yale ran this country, we would have no problems.' And the irony of my life is that they did." He pauses before invoking a 20th-century American foreign policy who's who: "There was Cy Vance, Bill Scranton, Ted Beale, both Bundys, Bill and McGeorge -- they all got behind that war in Vietnam and they pushed it as far as they could. And we lost a quarter of a million men. They were all idealistic, good, virtuous," says Auchincloss, "the finest men you could find. It was the most disillusioning thing that happened in my life."

Auchincloss has struggled to understand just how their shared patrician background could have produced this disconnect. And the answer would appear to be that wars are lost, if not always made, on the playing fields of New England. "Bill Bundy and I shared a study at Groton, and one day he came in from a football game, and I said: 'Who won?' and he said: 'We lost,' and then he burst into tears. You cannot lose. Groton cannot lose. That's what they believed in, no matter what," explains Auchincloss. "They all would have all been willing to die, if they hadn't already been in high positions. They believed America cannot lose. We stand for every virtue and right that's in the world."

For more, including his excretory dismissal of the Bush family, read "The Irony of my life." But if you are a political junkie, his 1980 novel, The House of the Prophet, whose protagonist is based on Walter Lippmann, is an indispensable meditation on the motivations and failings of the political pundit and public intellectual class.

 
 
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12:46 AM on 09/23/2007
The USA has a problem with its elite. The so called elite define the qualities of an elite based upon the traits of character which they think that they exhibit. The image of themselve which they see is grossly incomplete & most distorted. They are afflicted with a terminal genetic condition which they wrongly identify as idealism. This sad condition has destroyed their families, their class & this nation. The self-defined best & the brightest produced Robt Strange McNamara, John Foster Dulles, James Forestal [sic] & others of that sadly, pathetic ilk. Each generation of the mediocre so called elite becomes less capable than their ancestors of previous generation to function as leaders in a very complex & constantly changing world. The USA's so called power elite confuse scruples with principles & shallow emotions with what is called consciance.
The USA's so called elite discover cynacism far too late in life-if they ever become aware of any sort of cynacism-to use it as a guide in their careers.
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08:52 PM on 09/23/2007
Americans aren't honest about their own attitudes toward elites. They make a big show of disdaining the elite--and US popular culture, in TV shows like THE BEVERLEY HILLBILLIES and movies like TITANIC, is replete with anti-elitist cliches--yet their behavior tends to reflect a pathetic desire to climb upward into that same elite. Martha Stewart and the manufacturers of designer jeans understand this contradiction well enough to make fortunes.

Look at how every autumn VANITY FAIR has a list of "The New Establishment," with largely the same people year after year being presented as triumphant newcomers. (How long can you be the New Establishment without simply becoming the Establishment?) It's like the millions of middle-aged baby boomers who still pretend to be young!

Every democratic nation gets the elite it deserves.
11:03 PM on 09/24/2007
It would be rude to call those who compile the pecking order of those in almost every class, endevor, occupaton, etc plus those who avidly read them pecker checkers. On the other hand it would be fun & accurate to boot.
08:00 AM on 09/25/2007
Americans strive to become part of the elite they revile, but not because they want to act like elitists. Rather, they harbor a fantasy that if they ever became part of the elite, they would remain "just plain folks" and show those pedigreed snobs a thing or two. This is one of our most powerful and popular myths, played out in everything from "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington" to "Dave" to the above-mentioned "Beverly Hillbillies."
Act I: Bumpkin somehow stumbles into the domain of wealth,power, and privilege.
Act II: Elitists who inhabit that world feel threatened by the interloper; they scorn and undermine him in an attempt to destroy him.
Act III: Bumpkin turns the tables on elitists and prevails, thanks to down-home goodness and folksy wisdom.
Every American mutt has had this fantasy, and no producer has ever gone broke staging it for the masses--even an inferior telling of the myth like "King Ralph" turned a tidy profit.
It's why Reagan and Elvis were and are so popular with the average hayseed; they looked to be living the fantasy. With Reagan, it was a fraud, an elaborate and cynical role—the folksy "aw shucks" president out of Frank Capra. Elvis was the real thing: He actually was a Beverly hillbilly.
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07:15 PM on 09/21/2007
"Americans play to win at all times.... I wouldn't give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed! That's why Americans have never lost and will never lose a war"--General Patton
08:41 PM on 09/21/2007
Thanks FF for that gem of a comment and the truly tragic sentiment it conveys.

Trevor
09:39 PM on 09/21/2007
We haven't won one recently, have we?
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06:25 PM on 09/21/2007
Yale does figure in here, since Bush, Cheney, and John Bolton were all Yalies in the late 60s. What happened there was interesting. The class of 1970 (admitted in 1966) was an experimental pure meritocracy--they had the highest scores in the history of the SAT, and came from all over the country, mostly middle class high schools. When they got to Yale, they were at first stunned and then infuriated by the privilege they saw all around them--some of them had never really imagined what was there, even in the Beineke Rare Books Library alone. They were also quite smart and arrogant about their intelligence, and while gravitating toward leftist politics, they managed to sneer at the George W. Bush types in the fraternities, who were already there. There was quite a class divide. Everything came to a head in '69. Bush (class of '68) resented the uppity underclassmen and Bolton (class of '71, I think) was in ROTC and hated the anti-war sentiments on campus. Cheney was a separate matter. He came to Yale some years earlier, but couldn't cut it, and had to go back to Wyoming. He was humiliated by his first bid to enter the ruling class, and redoubled his efforts. But all three of them were shaped by the resentment they felt toward the world of Yale. Those lefty meritocrats were interesting, too, because a lot of them were so appalled by the ruling class that they found at Yale, and the protections that Yale gave them (for example from the draft, which was claiming their buddies from high school) that they dropped out of the rat race completely.
08:38 PM on 09/21/2007
Jane,

Thanks for your fascinating comments. One of the things that frustrated me enormously (as someone who switched from English literature at the undergrad level to history at the grad level) is how dismissive so many critics have been of Auchincloss's subject material. Too upper class, too rich, too obscure. Yet the social history that he effectively has created in his fiction seems to me of vital interest. Would that there was a novelist of his caliber to limn the Yale of the Vulcans! On a separate note, what significance do you give to the Prep tradition of "muscular Christianity"? Is the blended ethos of the sports field and the alter still alive today?
05:49 PM on 09/21/2007
This mentality or win or lose does nothing to affect any strategy of the "NOW' of the Iraq war.

That is the real tragedy as more lives are lost in quest for the "win" column as opposed to what is right or safe for the troops.
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10:34 AM on 09/24/2007
The Iraq WAR WAS LOST IN CONCEPTION.
Sadam was trying to force the Saudi's to increase the price of Oil. They resisted and he attacked. Their "WHITE SLAVES", as the Saudi's refer to the Americans, came to thier rescue.
Now the Saudi's want protection from Iran who has the same desires as Sadam.
So the WHITE SLAVES go off into a never ending battle.