May 17, 2008
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BarryChamplain
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For Assassination Joke, Huckabee Should Be Off TV
Electing Sweetie
lawchic:
Speaking as a hopefully enlightened male, I do understand your offense at the term, BUT...
You really don't have much of a feel for the average American, I'm afraid. If this were put to a popular vote, "sweetie" would be judged harmless. You would probably jump to the conclusion that most Americans are therefore sexist.
Well, no they're not.
Perhaps you work in a law firm where you are competitive every moment you are at the office. And your biggest competition is the Old Boy Network (members of whom are probably so "old", they're between 30 and 45).
You tear your hair out to be taken seriously. You get bleary-eyed, researching a case for weeks. You prepare a brief, and you present it in a meeting where Biff and Brad are busy digging your legs. Believe me... I get it. In the day-to-day rat race, you have something to PROVE.
The waitress at the coffee shop is a lot more laid-back. She may be a Democrat. She may vote Obama.
But call her "sweetie", and it's harmless, perhaps even a modestly bright spot in her day.
This is a class issue. You will, I am positive, continue to see it as a feminist issue. Just try to understand that not everyone lives in your particular bubble. posted 05/16/2008 at 20:30:25
Speaking as a hopefully enlightened male, I do understand your offense at the term, BUT...
You really don't have much of a feel for the average American, I'm afraid. If this were put to a popular vote, "sweetie" would be judged harmless. You would probably jump to the conclusion that most Americans are therefore sexist.
Well, no they're not.
Perhaps you work in a law firm where you are competitive every moment you are at the office. And your biggest competition is the Old Boy Network (members of whom are probably so "old", they're between 30 and 45).
You tear your hair out to be taken seriously. You get bleary-eyed, researching a case for weeks. You prepare a brief, and you present it in a meeting where Biff and Brad are busy digging your legs. Believe me... I get it. In the day-to-day rat race, you have something to PROVE.
The waitress at the coffee shop is a lot more laid-back. She may be a Democrat. She may vote Obama.
But call her "sweetie", and it's harmless, perhaps even a modestly bright spot in her day.
This is a class issue. You will, I am positive, continue to see it as a feminist issue. Just try to understand that not everyone lives in your particular bubble. posted 05/16/2008 at 20:30:25
"Pass for Black" is the new right-wing smear, over which the morons who listen to nazi talk radio and the like are all agog.
Instead of saying, "Ah ain't votin' for no NI--!", you throw it back on those who might. You'd vote for a Black man? Well, guess what? HE ISN'T **REALLY** BLACK! Thus, presumably, demoralizing and suppressing the vote of those who thought they were making a bold "change".
The nice thing about this smear is that it only seems to resonate with the assholes who are doing it. And they'd never vote for a non-Republican anyway, so their point is...??? posted 05/16/2008 at 13:23:17
Instead of saying, "Ah ain't votin' for no NI--!", you throw it back on those who might. You'd vote for a Black man? Well, guess what? HE ISN'T **REALLY** BLACK! Thus, presumably, demoralizing and suppressing the vote of those who thought they were making a bold "change".
The nice thing about this smear is that it only seems to resonate with the assholes who are doing it. And they'd never vote for a non-Republican anyway, so their point is...??? posted 05/16/2008 at 13:23:17
Memo:
"Boy" is worse than "sweetie".
(If "Sweetiegate" actually gets legs in this country, THAT's when I move. Don't wanna live in a country that fuckin' DUMB.) posted 05/16/2008 at 13:09:36
"Boy" is worse than "sweetie".
(If "Sweetiegate" actually gets legs in this country, THAT's when I move. Don't wanna live in a country that fuckin' DUMB.) posted 05/16/2008 at 13:09:36
John Cusack's War: The Actor Battles to Un-embed Hollywood With His New Film, War, Inc.
SEEN IT!!
Tribeca Film Festival, a few weeks back. Broke all records for a Tribeca movie premiere, we were told; 5 showings, all sold out.
This movie is the "Network" of political films. Tragedy that it's designed to open in NY and LA, and then burn to DVD. We had a Q-and-A with the director afterwards; as I told him then, the real impact would be in getting this thing into malls across the land. He responded that yeah, maybe they should just hype it as a "Hilary Duff movie", and see what happens!
Note: Hilary Duff should get an Academy Award for this. She basically nuked her entire "teen" career to go out on the risky limb of her character in this film, and she was great! We're talking real guts here, and according to Josh Seftel, she just won over everyone who took part in the production. He can't say enough about her.
Props again to Mr. Seftel, and to the enormously talented John Cusack, someone else I hope to have the privilege of meeting someday; go to his MySpace page. He seems like one amazingly thoughtful and insightful guy.
And if it's feasible for ya... go see "War, Inc."! Enjoy! posted 05/16/2008 at 21:48:40
Tribeca Film Festival, a few weeks back. Broke all records for a Tribeca movie premiere, we were told; 5 showings, all sold out.
This movie is the "Network" of political films. Tragedy that it's designed to open in NY and LA, and then burn to DVD. We had a Q-and-A with the director afterwards; as I told him then, the real impact would be in getting this thing into malls across the land. He responded that yeah, maybe they should just hype it as a "Hilary Duff movie", and see what happens!
Note: Hilary Duff should get an Academy Award for this. She basically nuked her entire "teen" career to go out on the risky limb of her character in this film, and she was great! We're talking real guts here, and according to Josh Seftel, she just won over everyone who took part in the production. He can't say enough about her.
Props again to Mr. Seftel, and to the enormously talented John Cusack, someone else I hope to have the privilege of meeting someday; go to his MySpace page. He seems like one amazingly thoughtful and insightful guy.
And if it's feasible for ya... go see "War, Inc."! Enjoy! posted 05/16/2008 at 21:48:40
Exclusive Video: McCain Was For Talking To Hamas Before He Was Against It...
Love to know the names of those blogs you're reading (pretty sure they're both fair, AND balanced! :-P). posted 05/16/2008 at 12:53:17
This is the new "certitude defense".
McCain is caught on tape, gun smoking, hands red, staking out an earlier position that is 180 from his current position, and for which he attacks others.
Campaign puts out a sound byte: "John McCain BELIEVES, AND HAS ALWAYS BELIEVED...", and then they simply plop a lie on the table.
But the CERTITUDE with which they pontificate; the sheer aggressiveness of the lie, beats back any attempt to state the obvious ("But--- but, that's a woman, there, in bed with you!" "No, it isn't.").
It's only going to work, if the Russerts allow it to. No goddamn reason why it should. A lie is a lie is a lie. posted 05/16/2008 at 12:46:01
McCain is caught on tape, gun smoking, hands red, staking out an earlier position that is 180 from his current position, and for which he attacks others.
Campaign puts out a sound byte: "John McCain BELIEVES, AND HAS ALWAYS BELIEVED...", and then they simply plop a lie on the table.
But the CERTITUDE with which they pontificate; the sheer aggressiveness of the lie, beats back any attempt to state the obvious ("But--- but, that's a woman, there, in bed with you!" "No, it isn't.").
It's only going to work, if the Russerts allow it to. No goddamn reason why it should. A lie is a lie is a lie. posted 05/16/2008 at 12:46:01
Conyers On Rove: "We'll Hold Him In Contempt"
Well then...
If it is "a violation of Congress' powers", does it not follow, then, that their original "power" to issue subpoenas is, therefore, a meaningless sham?
Well... DOES it?
Are you saying, then, that this is the official Addington/Cheney/Gonzales position of the Bush WH? C'mon, toss it out there! Commit. posted 05/15/2008 at 23:54:43
If it is "a violation of Congress' powers", does it not follow, then, that their original "power" to issue subpoenas is, therefore, a meaningless sham?
Well... DOES it?
Are you saying, then, that this is the official Addington/Cheney/Gonzales position of the Bush WH? C'mon, toss it out there! Commit. posted 05/15/2008 at 23:54:43
Is there any private, paramilitary force for hire, consisting of several hundred, lethally-armed, ex-Navy Seals/Green Berets, etc.?
Here's my thinking:
The Bush Administration will issue another "legal opinion" asserting that Rove doesn't have to do squat because the Unitary Executive said so and that ends it. The Secret Service, alerted to the possibility of a showdown, will dispatch members to protect Mr. Rove from any attempts to seize him.
At that point, I think it will be a high-rated news day at CNN, when the Secret Service is confronted by about 500 heavily-armed and -armored professional practitioners of lethal force, willing to launch a showdown in blood between the Legislative Branch and a rogue Executive Branch.
... because that's what it will have to come to, if you think you're going to see Karl Rove arrested.
We are a nation of laws... allegedly. All laws are backed-up by the implied threat of force; whether that be the local police, or the Armed Forces.
Short of the Civil War, I can't think of any time when the government was told to go take a flying you-know-what by a rogue sector of that same government. Maybe I'm an optimist, but I don't see the Armed Forces coming in, shooting and killing deputized officers of the Congress of the United States.
Civil War. I believe Bush would take us there. posted 05/15/2008 at 23:29:25
Here's my thinking:
The Bush Administration will issue another "legal opinion" asserting that Rove doesn't have to do squat because the Unitary Executive said so and that ends it. The Secret Service, alerted to the possibility of a showdown, will dispatch members to protect Mr. Rove from any attempts to seize him.
At that point, I think it will be a high-rated news day at CNN, when the Secret Service is confronted by about 500 heavily-armed and -armored professional practitioners of lethal force, willing to launch a showdown in blood between the Legislative Branch and a rogue Executive Branch.
... because that's what it will have to come to, if you think you're going to see Karl Rove arrested.
We are a nation of laws... allegedly. All laws are backed-up by the implied threat of force; whether that be the local police, or the Armed Forces.
Short of the Civil War, I can't think of any time when the government was told to go take a flying you-know-what by a rogue sector of that same government. Maybe I'm an optimist, but I don't see the Armed Forces coming in, shooting and killing deputized officers of the Congress of the United States.
Civil War. I believe Bush would take us there. posted 05/15/2008 at 23:29:25
John McCain Trades Straight Talk for Unadulterated Fantasy
What the hell do you expect from Obama? There are Rethug oppo researchers working 24/7, to parse every phrase he's ever uttered, from his critcism of Bush not wanting to talk with other nations ("Obama wants to NEGOTIATE WITH TERRORISTS!!!"), to "Sweetie" ("See? Obama is SEXIST!").
When he talks in broad generalizations, you don't like that either.
Know what? He ain't talking to you. You go vote for McCain, and best of luck with that world of 2013. posted 05/15/2008 at 16:12:17
When he talks in broad generalizations, you don't like that either.
Know what? He ain't talking to you. You go vote for McCain, and best of luck with that world of 2013. posted 05/15/2008 at 16:12:17
Soul Survivor: Al Green
BILLY STEWART! YESssss!
One of the most unique jazz/pop singers ever to crack the charts with something... DIFFERENT. Destined to pass into the shadows of history, because somebody couldn't drive; but mostly, because Radio just decided to lose him. They do that. Because they can.
No clue what I'm talking about? Just when you think you've been knocked over by "Summertime", along comes "Secret Love" (now, let's take a quick inventory: the first was Gershwin; the second was Doris Day... no, I'm not kidding... and both charted R&B and Pop!!). posted 05/15/2008 at 10:23:50
One of the most unique jazz/pop singers ever to crack the charts with something... DIFFERENT. Destined to pass into the shadows of history, because somebody couldn't drive; but mostly, because Radio just decided to lose him. They do that. Because they can.
No clue what I'm talking about? Just when you think you've been knocked over by "Summertime", along comes "Secret Love" (now, let's take a quick inventory: the first was Gershwin; the second was Doris Day... no, I'm not kidding... and both charted R&B and Pop!!). posted 05/15/2008 at 10:23:50
Obama Calls Reporter 'Sweetie' In Michigan
Thank you, Joe Scarborough! :-P posted 05/14/2008 at 23:59:41
Lead item on four Fox News shows for two weeks.
Five pundits will debate it on "The Situation Room".
Six on "Hardball".
Tim Russert will have an Obama spokeperson on, and ambush them with seven more unearthed quotes where he called someone "Sweetie".
Joe Scarborough will predict the end of the Obama campaign because of the irreparable damage to women voters.
Rachel Maddow will disagree, and Joe will call her the "c" word, rip off his mic, and storm off the set. posted 05/14/2008 at 23:57:14
Five pundits will debate it on "The Situation Room".
Six on "Hardball".
Tim Russert will have an Obama spokeperson on, and ambush them with seven more unearthed quotes where he called someone "Sweetie".
Joe Scarborough will predict the end of the Obama campaign because of the irreparable damage to women voters.
Rachel Maddow will disagree, and Joe will call her the "c" word, rip off his mic, and storm off the set. posted 05/14/2008 at 23:57:14
Hillary Agonistes: Why Doesn't She Concede?
I sure hope, for his sake, that Obama has a low-profile*, back-burner campaign going, to corral America's registered Muslim voters into a voting bloc, as well.
Just remind them that they're about one bus stop away from concentration camps, the way that even mainstream politicians and pundits are so quick to agree that being branded "Muslim" is akin to Instant Political Death.
* = And that is why Obama can't stump for Muslim-American votes, overtly. This poor guy can't even say his damned middle NAME, without being accused of being One Of Them!
Which is an interesting trick, when the other Bad Thing you did was to be pastored by a Black Baptist preacher. These idiots cannot process the fact that a "Muslim" and the parishoner of a "Black Baptist preacher" are, um, mutually exclusive... fascinating what these guys can make America's Stupids believe! posted 05/14/2008 at 16:16:36
Just remind them that they're about one bus stop away from concentration camps, the way that even mainstream politicians and pundits are so quick to agree that being branded "Muslim" is akin to Instant Political Death.
* = And that is why Obama can't stump for Muslim-American votes, overtly. This poor guy can't even say his damned middle NAME, without being accused of being One Of Them!
Which is an interesting trick, when the other Bad Thing you did was to be pastored by a Black Baptist preacher. These idiots cannot process the fact that a "Muslim" and the parishoner of a "Black Baptist preacher" are, um, mutually exclusive... fascinating what these guys can make America's Stupids believe! posted 05/14/2008 at 16:16:36
"... at least white folks know how to spell!!"
And right there, is your "working class white". Formerly known as "racist".
As identifiable a voting bloc, to the evil bastards crunching the numbers and studying the graphs, as the anti-choice, one-issue voters.
The reason Hillary has gone from an admired leader of the Democratic Party to a reviled figure among the rank-and-file, is NOT because "she's a woman", or any of these other whiny memes about her victimhood.
It's because she and her advisors have decided that, if she can use the racist bloc to her advantage... um, then, what's yer point?
See, the thing is... Democrats don't DO that. Simple damned concept. posted 05/14/2008 at 15:54:01
And right there, is your "working class white". Formerly known as "racist".
As identifiable a voting bloc, to the evil bastards crunching the numbers and studying the graphs, as the anti-choice, one-issue voters.
The reason Hillary has gone from an admired leader of the Democratic Party to a reviled figure among the rank-and-file, is NOT because "she's a woman", or any of these other whiny memes about her victimhood.
It's because she and her advisors have decided that, if she can use the racist bloc to her advantage... um, then, what's yer point?
See, the thing is... Democrats don't DO that. Simple damned concept. posted 05/14/2008 at 15:54:01
Good point, ME.
Also, be on the lookout for the latest right-wing meme, already in progress: "How come, if Barack Obama is not the 'Black candidate', he gets 92 PERCENT OF THE BLACK VOTE??? HUH?!?"
No one ever pointed out to these MENSA scholars that in every previous presidential election since we "allowed" Blacks to vote, *100%* of the Black vote sorta kinda went to a white candidate... :-) posted 05/14/2008 at 15:35:02
Also, be on the lookout for the latest right-wing meme, already in progress: "How come, if Barack Obama is not the 'Black candidate', he gets 92 PERCENT OF THE BLACK VOTE??? HUH?!?"
No one ever pointed out to these MENSA scholars that in every previous presidential election since we "allowed" Blacks to vote, *100%* of the Black vote sorta kinda went to a white candidate... :-) posted 05/14/2008 at 15:35:02
psst! BigLib!
Is "Barry" the new "Democrat Party"?
Lame. Lots of respectable people in this country have the name "Barry". "Mr. Conservative" was named "Barry"!
It won't take. Just trying to help :-) posted 05/14/2008 at 15:27:44
Is "Barry" the new "Democrat Party"?
Lame. Lots of respectable people in this country have the name "Barry". "Mr. Conservative" was named "Barry"!
It won't take. Just trying to help :-) posted 05/14/2008 at 15:27:44
SensibleAmerican: "Pastor Wright and Bill Ayers are not going away!"
Those are just about the verbatim words of Rush Limbaugh.
Rush Limbaugh gets his "show prep" directly from the highest levels of the GOP. Daily.
You just parroted Rush.
Tell us again how you are really a Hillary supporter.
If this campaign produces anything of worth, I want it to be a larger number of Americans who finally can hear through the bullshit, and see the bamboozlements to which we alleged flyover Dummies are subjected, on an ongoing basis. posted 05/14/2008 at 15:23:30
Those are just about the verbatim words of Rush Limbaugh.
Rush Limbaugh gets his "show prep" directly from the highest levels of the GOP. Daily.
You just parroted Rush.
Tell us again how you are really a Hillary supporter.
If this campaign produces anything of worth, I want it to be a larger number of Americans who finally can hear through the bullshit, and see the bamboozlements to which we alleged flyover Dummies are subjected, on an ongoing basis. posted 05/14/2008 at 15:23:30
Honestly? That is the most plausible explanation for what she's doing, that I've heard yet. Next to the one which gets the most denial and outrage from the pundits; mainly, that she's muddying-up the presumed Democratic candidate so badly, that he'll lose in November. And she finally can run against McCain, in 2012. Heaven forbid anyone should say that Hillary is bad for the Democratic Party!
Curious whether anyone connected with the Obama campaign has yet been apprised of the vice-presidential pick theory? posted 05/14/2008 at 15:05:33
Curious whether anyone connected with the Obama campaign has yet been apprised of the vice-presidential pick theory? posted 05/14/2008 at 15:05:33
Half the problem is that conventional wisdom regularly gets reported as FACT:
*Convinced, correctly, that after running a lousy campaign she has finally hit her stride as reflected in her solid victories in Texas, Ohio and, on Tuesday, in West Virginia. "
Texas was not only NOT a "solid victory"... it was a LOSS FOR HILLARY. The unsung matter of caucuses vs. primaries. Texas sends more delegates to the convention for Obama. I wouldn't call that a "solid victory" for her.
But the thing which sticks in my craw is when the media goes apeshit over a Hillary "victory" in general.
I bet if you polled most Americans, they don't actually know that a Democratic primary isn't "winner take all". If Obama starts with decisively more delegates, and Hillary "wins!!" a primary with x+1 delegates, to Obama's x delegates, HE'S STILL IN THE LEAD. To hear it reported in the news daily, Hillary has kicked his butt. This is nothing more than blatant news management (by whom, I wonder?).
Reality check on what's happened, here:
Team Obama has gone 8 innings in a ballgame, where he leads 21-10. In the 9th inning, with two outs, Team Hillary, plagued throughout the game with the lousiest hitters in the league, brings up its three Home Run Kings in a row, which it has been saving for the very end of the game.
The guys in the press box gush about how Team Hillary really could win this game. posted 05/14/2008 at 14:42:58
*Convinced, correctly, that after running a lousy campaign she has finally hit her stride as reflected in her solid victories in Texas, Ohio and, on Tuesday, in West Virginia. "
Texas was not only NOT a "solid victory"... it was a LOSS FOR HILLARY. The unsung matter of caucuses vs. primaries. Texas sends more delegates to the convention for Obama. I wouldn't call that a "solid victory" for her.
But the thing which sticks in my craw is when the media goes apeshit over a Hillary "victory" in general.
I bet if you polled most Americans, they don't actually know that a Democratic primary isn't "winner take all". If Obama starts with decisively more delegates, and Hillary "wins!!" a primary with x+1 delegates, to Obama's x delegates, HE'S STILL IN THE LEAD. To hear it reported in the news daily, Hillary has kicked his butt. This is nothing more than blatant news management (by whom, I wonder?).
Reality check on what's happened, here:
Team Obama has gone 8 innings in a ballgame, where he leads 21-10. In the 9th inning, with two outs, Team Hillary, plagued throughout the game with the lousiest hitters in the league, brings up its three Home Run Kings in a row, which it has been saving for the very end of the game.
The guys in the press box gush about how Team Hillary really could win this game. posted 05/14/2008 at 14:42:58
Obama/McCain: Kennedy/Nixon or Eisenhower/Stevenson?
It is disputed.
But it only even has to be, when someone like you trots-out this sick and discredited urban legend.
Third time's a charm:
http://www.slate.com/id/91350/
"Facts are stupid things"-- R.W. Reagan, the Holy Messiah of Death-Metal Republicans, 1988 posted 05/14/2008 at 13:59:37
But it only even has to be, when someone like you trots-out this sick and discredited urban legend.
Third time's a charm:
http://www.slate.com/id/91350/
"Facts are stupid things"-- R.W. Reagan, the Holy Messiah of Death-Metal Republicans, 1988 posted 05/14/2008 at 13:59:37
"American exceptionalism" is hardly a virtue.
My own memory of JFK and afterwards is that when it became apparent that we were using the horror of war as one more political tool in our belt, to shape foreign policy to our own liking (regardless of the morality involved, or lack of it), JFK: [a] refused troops for a military followup to the unauthorized Bay Of Pigs, which the CIA had cooked-up behind his back; [b] issued the order (NSAM 263) to just say the hell with it and start pulling the troops out of Viet Nam.
(We all know how that last one ended up.)
So there goes the argument that "American exceptionalism", which is more a belief system of the Bush/Cheney cabal, somehow was one of the traits that endeared Kennedy to a wide swath of the American people. I really don't think so. posted 05/14/2008 at 13:42:24
My own memory of JFK and afterwards is that when it became apparent that we were using the horror of war as one more political tool in our belt, to shape foreign policy to our own liking (regardless of the morality involved, or lack of it), JFK: [a] refused troops for a military followup to the unauthorized Bay Of Pigs, which the CIA had cooked-up behind his back; [b] issued the order (NSAM 263) to just say the hell with it and start pulling the troops out of Viet Nam.
(We all know how that last one ended up.)
So there goes the argument that "American exceptionalism", which is more a belief system of the Bush/Cheney cabal, somehow was one of the traits that endeared Kennedy to a wide swath of the American people. I really don't think so. posted 05/14/2008 at 13:42:24
ResidentChimp:
Everything you wrote is a lie.
[a] Cite your sources, on the "corrupt" thing. Or be branded the liar you are;
[b] As your scroll finger is impaired, you obviously didn't see where I made fertilizer out of the gentleman below, concerning that old, old Kennedy crap... emphasis on CRAP.
Here, morally- and intellectually-impovershed troll. Read, weep, disappear:
http://www.slate.com/id/91350/
"Facts are stupid things."-- Ronald Wilson Reagan, 1988 posted 05/14/2008 at 03:34:46
Everything you wrote is a lie.
[a] Cite your sources, on the "corrupt" thing. Or be branded the liar you are;
[b] As your scroll finger is impaired, you obviously didn't see where I made fertilizer out of the gentleman below, concerning that old, old Kennedy crap... emphasis on CRAP.
Here, morally- and intellectually-impovershed troll. Read, weep, disappear:
http://www.slate.com/id/91350/
"Facts are stupid things."-- Ronald Wilson Reagan, 1988 posted 05/14/2008 at 03:34:46
noneIn2008:
Google is your friend.
Go find out if Richard Nixon ever undertook an investigation of the "stolen" 1960 election, and what happened (I'm not doing it for you).
(... oh, screw it: http://www.slate.com/id/91350/ :-)
Facts are stupid things. posted 05/13/2008 at 23:29:48
Google is your friend.
Go find out if Richard Nixon ever undertook an investigation of the "stolen" 1960 election, and what happened (I'm not doing it for you).
(... oh, screw it: http://www.slate.com/id/91350/ :-)
Facts are stupid things. posted 05/13/2008 at 23:29:48
If Barack Obama ever even dared to say directly that McCain is a "hero who wasn't felled by our enemies but by the grinding corruption of Washington insider politics", the GOP smear machine would go into Full Frontal Outrage, and the mainstream media would demand... DEMAND!.. that Obama apologize immediately, for calling the Straight Talking War Hero Maverick "corrupt".
And that is why just about all Obama has ever uttered have been platitudes, bromides and motivational spiel. Blame him for that if you want, but you must understand that literally anything he utters that is not squeaky-positive will be ground back into his face, and he will have no friends in the media, when the GOP bares its scary teeth at them.
There won't be one chance in this election for anyone except, perhaps, MoveOn.org... and just wait until you see what gets said about THEM (like they care, fortunately!)... to speak the necessary truth to John McCain publicly. And the opportunities for them to be heard by vast numbers of voters will be kept to a minimum. posted 05/13/2008 at 23:22:23
And that is why just about all Obama has ever uttered have been platitudes, bromides and motivational spiel. Blame him for that if you want, but you must understand that literally anything he utters that is not squeaky-positive will be ground back into his face, and he will have no friends in the media, when the GOP bares its scary teeth at them.
There won't be one chance in this election for anyone except, perhaps, MoveOn.org... and just wait until you see what gets said about THEM (like they care, fortunately!)... to speak the necessary truth to John McCain publicly. And the opportunities for them to be heard by vast numbers of voters will be kept to a minimum. posted 05/13/2008 at 23:22:23
Pentagon "Media Analysts" Appeared On Major Networks Or Were Quoted More Than 4,500
ute: Ever wonder why that moron was so blunt, in divulging how his administartion leads the press around by the short and curlies?
BECAUSE THAT'S HOW IT WAS EXPLAINED TO **HIM**! I'll bet more than a few faces of Bush staff curled-up in pain, when they heard that idiot repeat it publicly! :-)
This blog can keep flogging the Pentagon propaganda story all it wants. It should be clear by now that, as far as the mainstream media goes, it is simply NOT a story. Unless Obama brings it up in a nationally-televised debate... and this goes for McCain's dirty lobbyists, and all the other stuff over which we tear our hair out. Jenna Bush will get more ink and air time.
But don't count on his doing that. Obama's handlers quite clearly have made the calculation that nothing but "positives" come out of Obama's mouth. There is merit to that strategy, but there is merit and a critical need to counterbalance the bullshit of the Straight Talk Express (where the beer and the BJ's flow freely!). Unless Obama seizes the sound bytes and brings up McCain's NUMEROUS Achilles heels himself, the low-information voter will remain a mushroom. posted 05/13/2008 at 13:43:58
BECAUSE THAT'S HOW IT WAS EXPLAINED TO **HIM**! I'll bet more than a few faces of Bush staff curled-up in pain, when they heard that idiot repeat it publicly! :-)
This blog can keep flogging the Pentagon propaganda story all it wants. It should be clear by now that, as far as the mainstream media goes, it is simply NOT a story. Unless Obama brings it up in a nationally-televised debate... and this goes for McCain's dirty lobbyists, and all the other stuff over which we tear our hair out. Jenna Bush will get more ink and air time.
But don't count on his doing that. Obama's handlers quite clearly have made the calculation that nothing but "positives" come out of Obama's mouth. There is merit to that strategy, but there is merit and a critical need to counterbalance the bullshit of the Straight Talk Express (where the beer and the BJ's flow freely!). Unless Obama seizes the sound bytes and brings up McCain's NUMEROUS Achilles heels himself, the low-information voter will remain a mushroom. posted 05/13/2008 at 13:43:58
Did the Limbaugh Effect Also Flip Michigan?
A few months ago, saying the following would have been unthinkable (not to mention "shrill"):
Someone, like maybe Howard Dean and his crew, needs to stay in close contact with all members of the Rules Committee, to see that no one on that committee is being blackmailed, or unduly pressured.
I'd bet the farm and the firstborn that, ongoing, there have been not a few phone calls to these people, from... shall we say, interested parties.
(To say nothing of the superdelegates...) posted 05/13/2008 at 13:15:08
Someone, like maybe Howard Dean and his crew, needs to stay in close contact with all members of the Rules Committee, to see that no one on that committee is being blackmailed, or unduly pressured.
I'd bet the farm and the firstborn that, ongoing, there have been not a few phone calls to these people, from... shall we say, interested parties.
(To say nothing of the superdelegates...) posted 05/13/2008 at 13:15:08
Terrell Owens Headed To Primetime - As A Sitcom Actor
Would you really like to know WHY this turd included his race?
Because ever since conservative gasbags have been whining about how unfair "political correctness" (originally a right-wing term, let us remember) is to the downtrodden White Males of America, the bar has moved inch by inch, until now it's finally "okay" for unreconstructed racists to express publicly their angst and frustration about living in a Black or Brown planet.
Case in point: Rev. Wright. Here you had mainstream conversation and media, saying things about the Scary Black Man, they would NEVER have gotten away with in polite society, a few short years ago. They now had a pass. Because there was a consensus about Wright; we ALL knew Wright was a Scary Black Man, so..!
But, at long last, the white folks could all agree: it's OKAY. Sort of like when O.J. happened... open season on racial slurs. Not a few of which seeped into the mainstream, with no repercussions to the racists.
... that's why. posted 05/12/2008 at 18:48:19
Because ever since conservative gasbags have been whining about how unfair "political correctness" (originally a right-wing term, let us remember) is to the downtrodden White Males of America, the bar has moved inch by inch, until now it's finally "okay" for unreconstructed racists to express publicly their angst and frustration about living in a Black or Brown planet.
Case in point: Rev. Wright. Here you had mainstream conversation and media, saying things about the Scary Black Man, they would NEVER have gotten away with in polite society, a few short years ago. They now had a pass. Because there was a consensus about Wright; we ALL knew Wright was a Scary Black Man, so..!
But, at long last, the white folks could all agree: it's OKAY. Sort of like when O.J. happened... open season on racial slurs. Not a few of which seeped into the mainstream, with no repercussions to the racists.
... that's why. posted 05/12/2008 at 18:48:19
See The Dress That Got A High-School Senior Arrested (PICTURES)(VIDEO)
Right, timregler, and if they don't knuckle-under, teach them a valuable lesson by sending them off to the justice system. Tough love!!
All right... you want to know how you, or any father of six girls (wow, YOU sure had a lot of sex, for a moralistic bastard!) should handle such a situation? LIKE THIS:
Your daughters can commit any transgression there is, and you can correct them and guide them any way you please.
But when authoriity figures, acting "in loco parentis", abuse your child this way, YOU DEFEND THEM, UNQUESTIONINGLY.
You let them KNOW that as long as you're alive, NOBODY attacks your goddamned kid! GET IT?
Loving father, my ass. Get help. posted 05/12/2008 at 14:02:32
All right... you want to know how you, or any father of six girls (wow, YOU sure had a lot of sex, for a moralistic bastard!) should handle such a situation? LIKE THIS:
Your daughters can commit any transgression there is, and you can correct them and guide them any way you please.
But when authoriity figures, acting "in loco parentis", abuse your child this way, YOU DEFEND THEM, UNQUESTIONINGLY.
You let them KNOW that as long as you're alive, NOBODY attacks your goddamned kid! GET IT?
Loving father, my ass. Get help. posted 05/12/2008 at 14:02:32
robX:
SUGAR LAND. Different from Houston. A goldmine of racial horror stories, for many decades.
Notice that KHOU... IN Houston... took a measured and sympathetic approach to the girl. In an age where TV "news" jumps on every tabloidish, tongue-clucking bandwagon there is, this tells you a little something about the jaundiced view of Sugar Land that the real "city" in that area has. posted 05/12/2008 at 13:52:30
SUGAR LAND. Different from Houston. A goldmine of racial horror stories, for many decades.
Notice that KHOU... IN Houston... took a measured and sympathetic approach to the girl. In an age where TV "news" jumps on every tabloidish, tongue-clucking bandwagon there is, this tells you a little something about the jaundiced view of Sugar Land that the real "city" in that area has. posted 05/12/2008 at 13:52:30
I am assuming you Black Women don't allow your kids to buy the artistic product of Beyonce or any edgily-attired artists of the day? Tell me, how is THAT going over?
This young lady will be a designer on 7th AV (or someplace) by the time she's 21. She'll be a Name, before she's your age. You'll still be working the day shift, babysitting the grandkids, and clucking your moralistic tongues at everyone skinnier than you.
Tell me again how this creative young woman is disgracing "your" community. posted 05/12/2008 at 13:48:05
This young lady will be a designer on 7th AV (or someplace) by the time she's 21. She'll be a Name, before she's your age. You'll still be working the day shift, babysitting the grandkids, and clucking your moralistic tongues at everyone skinnier than you.
Tell me again how this creative young woman is disgracing "your" community. posted 05/12/2008 at 13:48:05
KY:
I'm guessing because: [a] You don't like kids; [b] you REALLY don't like independent-minded kids; [c] she's Black.
What do I win? :-) posted 05/12/2008 at 13:15:42
I'm guessing because: [a] You don't like kids; [b] you REALLY don't like independent-minded kids; [c] she's Black.
What do I win? :-) posted 05/12/2008 at 13:15:42
One hundred years from now, there will still be the ongoing war between the creative, beautiful people, and the authoritarian, stick-up-their-behinds Guardians Of Society. Read some of the comments here. They showed up in force, today.
Yeah, yeah, "welcome to adulthood", my ass (see authoritarian comment, below). What you really mean is, "Welcome to the realization that once you enter the Rat Race, the stick-up-their-behinds people like me run things, and people like you... FOLLOW DIRECTIONS. Get used to it!!"
Then there's the racial dimension. Far be it from me to suggest that a beautiful, young Black woman, who is creative enough to have designed her own fashions, is treated, ooh I'd say, a tad differently from a gazillionaire designer of a starlet's gown at the Academy Awards.
"But!!" you say. "The principal [or whatever that schmuck in the piece was] is Black!"
Listen, folks. IT'S SUGAR LAND, TEXAS. The only reason Sugar Land lets Black folks be the school administrators for Black kids, is because the good white folks don't give a crap about them. What better way to institutionalize this, but to let Uncle Tom run the joint? Again... IT'S SUGAR LAND, TEXAS. You ain't been there? You know Squat. posted 05/12/2008 at 13:08:45
Yeah, yeah, "welcome to adulthood", my ass (see authoritarian comment, below). What you really mean is, "Welcome to the realization that once you enter the Rat Race, the stick-up-their-behinds people like me run things, and people like you... FOLLOW DIRECTIONS. Get used to it!!"
Then there's the racial dimension. Far be it from me to suggest that a beautiful, young Black woman, who is creative enough to have designed her own fashions, is treated, ooh I'd say, a tad differently from a gazillionaire designer of a starlet's gown at the Academy Awards.
"But!!" you say. "The principal [or whatever that schmuck in the piece was] is Black!"
Listen, folks. IT'S SUGAR LAND, TEXAS. The only reason Sugar Land lets Black folks be the school administrators for Black kids, is because the good white folks don't give a crap about them. What better way to institutionalize this, but to let Uncle Tom run the joint? Again... IT'S SUGAR LAND, TEXAS. You ain't been there? You know Squat. posted 05/12/2008 at 13:08:45
The Most Important Piece of Paper in America
"... the Bush tax cuts caused MORE money to enter into the government coffers than ever before."
This is one of those brilliantly-constructed distractions that Movement wingnuts use.
I'd be thrilled to see the sourcing for this statement. If there's any truth to it at all (there's always some), then the concept of "entering the government coffers" is asterisked up the ass. Does it mean more revenues available for government services? Or "trickling down" to the taxpayers' common good? Doubtful.
And proportionally, did this money come more from those below Charlie Gibson's "middle class" [g] than they did before Reagan began, and Bush accelerated, the redistribution of wealth? Probable.
I don't look for a "perfect solution", Mr. timothe. I just want to see zero working poor, zero homeless, and NO bailouts of corporations and banks "too big to fail". There are PLENTY of easily-achievable goals, where there's a will. And there hasn't been, especially in the last 8 years.
Plus, there's the little matter of Barack Obama wanting to "punish" the rich. Only a drooling idiot possibly could believe that is Obama's position. If intellectual dishonesty were a crime, you'd have flames shooting out of your ears, while the lights flickered on and off.
timothe, if you are not very wealthy, yourself, and you believe that shit about the persecuted, downtrodden rich, then you live a fantasy life in which your secret aspirations reflect nothing of what you'll ever realistically be. posted 05/12/2008 at 03:26:47
This is one of those brilliantly-constructed distractions that Movement wingnuts use.
I'd be thrilled to see the sourcing for this statement. If there's any truth to it at all (there's always some), then the concept of "entering the government coffers" is asterisked up the ass. Does it mean more revenues available for government services? Or "trickling down" to the taxpayers' common good? Doubtful.
And proportionally, did this money come more from those below Charlie Gibson's "middle class" [g] than they did before Reagan began, and Bush accelerated, the redistribution of wealth? Probable.
I don't look for a "perfect solution", Mr. timothe. I just want to see zero working poor, zero homeless, and NO bailouts of corporations and banks "too big to fail". There are PLENTY of easily-achievable goals, where there's a will. And there hasn't been, especially in the last 8 years.
Plus, there's the little matter of Barack Obama wanting to "punish" the rich. Only a drooling idiot possibly could believe that is Obama's position. If intellectual dishonesty were a crime, you'd have flames shooting out of your ears, while the lights flickered on and off.
timothe, if you are not very wealthy, yourself, and you believe that shit about the persecuted, downtrodden rich, then you live a fantasy life in which your secret aspirations reflect nothing of what you'll ever realistically be. posted 05/12/2008 at 03:26:47
McAuliffe Says Russert's Dad Is 'Watching From Heaven' -- He's Alive (VIDEO)
After we're through giggling at the dumb mistake, let's return focus to this "2209 delegates" business:
This is yet another attempt (which might yet be successful) to bamboozle the mainstream media into repeating that FL and MI must be included in the delegate count, to be legitimate. They've been pulling this, now, for at least a week if not longer.
Does anyone honestly think that Howard Dean will knuckle-under to this, due to conventional wisdom and pundit pressure? Yeah... maybe if the Hillary campaign takes his children hostage, or something. Dean, bottom line here, knows that if Hillary steals the nomination, he's finished, and so's 3 years of hard work on strengthening the Party.
If I were running the Obama campaign, I'd drop a mess-o-money on West Virginia, and drive home this basic message:
"Don't send our presumptive nominee to the convention, fresh off a big loss in West Virginia... this could hurt him in November! A REPUBLICAN might become president! So VOTE OBAMA!"
Hell, at the least, it might make her margin of victory a lot smaller, and a lot more embarassingly insignificant. posted 05/11/2008 at 19:10:41
This is yet another attempt (which might yet be successful) to bamboozle the mainstream media into repeating that FL and MI must be included in the delegate count, to be legitimate. They've been pulling this, now, for at least a week if not longer.
Does anyone honestly think that Howard Dean will knuckle-under to this, due to conventional wisdom and pundit pressure? Yeah... maybe if the Hillary campaign takes his children hostage, or something. Dean, bottom line here, knows that if Hillary steals the nomination, he's finished, and so's 3 years of hard work on strengthening the Party.
If I were running the Obama campaign, I'd drop a mess-o-money on West Virginia, and drive home this basic message:
"Don't send our presumptive nominee to the convention, fresh off a big loss in West Virginia... this could hurt him in November! A REPUBLICAN might become president! So VOTE OBAMA!"
Hell, at the least, it might make her margin of victory a lot smaller, and a lot more embarassingly insignificant. posted 05/11/2008 at 19:10:41
Michelle Vetoes Hillary As Veep Pick
Oh Christ, here it comes.
Rev. Wright is played-out; the new Scary, Angry Black Person is MRS. Obama.
Can't throw his own wife under the bus, can he? Brilliant, if obscene. The media will be ecstatic and rejuvenated. Won't be a day goes by, without Scary, Angry, Black Michelle in it.
Get out your umbrellas. 'cuz here it comes. And thank you, trolls, for telegraphing it all. posted 05/11/2008 at 19:30:14
Rev. Wright is played-out; the new Scary, Angry Black Person is MRS. Obama.
Can't throw his own wife under the bus, can he? Brilliant, if obscene. The media will be ecstatic and rejuvenated. Won't be a day goes by, without Scary, Angry, Black Michelle in it.
Get out your umbrellas. 'cuz here it comes. And thank you, trolls, for telegraphing it all. posted 05/11/2008 at 19:30:14
Obama And McCain Open To Unmoderated Debates Across Country
My instant reaction was, "WHA--?!?!?" I never believed McCain would ever agree to ONE debate, where his well-known true ignorance of the issues, and his positions which run counter to the American majority's, could be exposed to the public by the millions... let alone a series of debates... and UNMODERATED? Be still O my heart!
Then I began to think about it...
The political junkies, and "HIGH-information voters", will watch these debates. Their preferences will be reinforced by what they see.
The mainstream media, meanwhile, will tell the story of how the debates go, based on how they always cover McCain. He will get pass after pass, and the Rovian smears and accusations he throws at Obama, while they will be handled admirably on the spot, will rise again in print and on television the next day as unresolved "issues" for a troubled Barack Obama.
The debates will become what the MSM says they were, and sadly, most of America's less interested citizens will come away with a much different picture of what the well-informed will be seeing.
It's one thing to be articulate, and on the right side of things. It's another to have the press watching your back, always. posted 05/11/2008 at 21:54:41
Then I began to think about it...
The political junkies, and "HIGH-information voters", will watch these debates. Their preferences will be reinforced by what they see.
The mainstream media, meanwhile, will tell the story of how the debates go, based on how they always cover McCain. He will get pass after pass, and the Rovian smears and accusations he throws at Obama, while they will be handled admirably on the spot, will rise again in print and on television the next day as unresolved "issues" for a troubled Barack Obama.
The debates will become what the MSM says they were, and sadly, most of America's less interested citizens will come away with a much different picture of what the well-informed will be seeing.
It's one thing to be articulate, and on the right side of things. It's another to have the press watching your back, always. posted 05/11/2008 at 21:54:41
Hillary's Chances: Growing Chorus Says It's Not Going To Happen
Stevie:
To quote the great political thinker, Craig Ferguson: "It's WRITTEN DOWN! It must be TRUUUUUUE!"
(My friend, you're not our peer, here. You cannot debate in this venue, as you are not intellectually equipped. You are dismissed. Have a nice beverage and watch TV.) posted 05/09/2008 at 19:15:22
To quote the great political thinker, Craig Ferguson: "It's WRITTEN DOWN! It must be TRUUUUUUE!"
(My friend, you're not our peer, here. You cannot debate in this venue, as you are not intellectually equipped. You are dismissed. Have a nice beverage and watch TV.) posted 05/09/2008 at 19:15:22
Stevie:
This is for you, this is for McCain, and this is for any low-information voter, like the ones you're trying to sell this shameless crap to, whose scrotum curls up inside his body cavity at the word "terrorist":
I'd like you people to picture, if you can, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, winning his third term re-election victory on the eve of World War II against Willkie; or his fourth term, in the most trying moments of the denouement against Dewey... by claiming that his opponent was Adolf Hitler's favorite candidate.
(Interestingly, at least one of these guys played the "traitor" card against FDR. Worked out REAL well.)
But the difference in strategies shouldn't surprise any of us. John McCain is no Roosevelt (shit, he ain't even a Dewey).
You know, my only question throughout all this is: why are we continually shocked and appalled, when these sleazebag tactics are employed by the GOP? Is Karl Rove, in 2008, still an unknown entity to mainstream America? REALLY? posted 05/09/2008 at 18:21:30
This is for you, this is for McCain, and this is for any low-information voter, like the ones you're trying to sell this shameless crap to, whose scrotum curls up inside his body cavity at the word "terrorist":
I'd like you people to picture, if you can, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, winning his third term re-election victory on the eve of World War II against Willkie; or his fourth term, in the most trying moments of the denouement against Dewey... by claiming that his opponent was Adolf Hitler's favorite candidate.
(Interestingly, at least one of these guys played the "traitor" card against FDR. Worked out REAL well.)
But the difference in strategies shouldn't surprise any of us. John McCain is no Roosevelt (shit, he ain't even a Dewey).
You know, my only question throughout all this is: why are we continually shocked and appalled, when these sleazebag tactics are employed by the GOP? Is Karl Rove, in 2008, still an unknown entity to mainstream America? REALLY? posted 05/09/2008 at 18:21:30
Burma Disappears the Cyclone
We in the "civilized" world can't fathom why a nation's leaders would let its people plotz, and keep pesky meddlers from doing anything about it. We're appalled by the insensitivity.
Well, why is this such a mystery? Not every government derives its power from the people, yada yada. Not every government exists to provide for the social good of its citizens.
Some of them could care less. Because that's not what these folks are in the government business for. Amassing personal wealth for themselves and their cronies, maybe... but "the people" are only useful when they produce quietly and don't require high maintenance. Otherwise, like any cockroaches, they must be swept away efficiently.
I know one government of a major, well-known nation, about whom it was said it deliberately and radically let a natural disaster destroy the underclass of a internationally-known city, in order to send its population the message: "Don't come around here, looking for relief. That's not what your government DOES, any longer. Get used to it."
I see no difference between that, and Myanmar. But I do see a trend. And that's what happens when the world's role model becomes the world's largest banana republic. posted 05/09/2008 at 21:22:50
Well, why is this such a mystery? Not every government derives its power from the people, yada yada. Not every government exists to provide for the social good of its citizens.
Some of them could care less. Because that's not what these folks are in the government business for. Amassing personal wealth for themselves and their cronies, maybe... but "the people" are only useful when they produce quietly and don't require high maintenance. Otherwise, like any cockroaches, they must be swept away efficiently.
I know one government of a major, well-known nation, about whom it was said it deliberately and radically let a natural disaster destroy the underclass of a internationally-known city, in order to send its population the message: "Don't come around here, looking for relief. That's not what your government DOES, any longer. Get used to it."
I see no difference between that, and Myanmar. But I do see a trend. And that's what happens when the world's role model becomes the world's largest banana republic. posted 05/09/2008 at 21:22:50
Truth Alert: McCain's Freudian Slip is Showing (and Very Telling)
Let's just cut to the chase.
My hero, Karl Rove (I think I just puked a little, writing that!), has built a very successful career out of attacking his opponents' STRENGTHS. War hero Kerry is a traitor; AWOL Bush is a War Hero (etc.). It's made us nuts.
Let's do what WORKS. Let's just cut the crap and destroy this shit stain McCain, for once and for all.
Forget issues. Forget explanations. Just take it straight to the low-information dummy; take on his "maverick" staright talker" persona, head-on, for once and for all.
50 MILLION BUMPER STICKERS, 50 MILLION T-SHIRTS... distrubuted coast to coast:
'McLIAR!"
That is all. Glad to help. posted 05/09/2008 at 20:54:11
My hero, Karl Rove (I think I just puked a little, writing that!), has built a very successful career out of attacking his opponents' STRENGTHS. War hero Kerry is a traitor; AWOL Bush is a War Hero (etc.). It's made us nuts.
Let's do what WORKS. Let's just cut the crap and destroy this shit stain McCain, for once and for all.
Forget issues. Forget explanations. Just take it straight to the low-information dummy; take on his "maverick" staright talker" persona, head-on, for once and for all.
50 MILLION BUMPER STICKERS, 50 MILLION T-SHIRTS... distrubuted coast to coast:
'McLIAR!"
That is all. Glad to help. posted 05/09/2008 at 20:54:11
Eva Mendes Topless And Toe Sucking In New Photoshoot (PICTURES)
No, I'll tell you when I knew you were being snarky: when you said that if you wanted to see this stuff, you'd watch Fox News.
If Fox News started showing nude hotties, I might be persuaded to lower my viewing standards. Think of it: "The Women Of The Fox News Channel" (of course, I wonder how sexually exciting I would find women in Nazi uniforms... perhaps, totally nude, except for the armbands... :-) posted 05/11/2008 at 21:40:04
If Fox News started showing nude hotties, I might be persuaded to lower my viewing standards. Think of it: "The Women Of The Fox News Channel" (of course, I wonder how sexually exciting I would find women in Nazi uniforms... perhaps, totally nude, except for the armbands... :-) posted 05/11/2008 at 21:40:04
Dan Rather Amends Complaint, Claims CBS Killed His Other Opportunities
Broadcasting executives are notoriously vindictive, in their dealings with discarded employees.
Even if Rather loses this case... even if the whole shebang gets thrown out of court (don't worry, it won't)... from now on, media execs as a group will either back off a bit on the whole ruination thing, or they'll be more calculating in not leaving fingerprints when they do. I tend to think the former; not because I'm an optimist, but because I know these guys. They're lazy. And they're paranoid.
This lawsuit puts the fear of God in these guys, no matter what they say in public. So... thanks, Dan! posted 05/07/2008 at 14:25:26
Even if Rather loses this case... even if the whole shebang gets thrown out of court (don't worry, it won't)... from now on, media execs as a group will either back off a bit on the whole ruination thing, or they'll be more calculating in not leaving fingerprints when they do. I tend to think the former; not because I'm an optimist, but because I know these guys. They're lazy. And they're paranoid.
This lawsuit puts the fear of God in these guys, no matter what they say in public. So... thanks, Dan! posted 05/07/2008 at 14:25:26
Obama Victorious, Clinton On The Ropes
I'm honored at your recognition, sir. Glad to know these fulminating fingers have not lost the Magic :-)
As repulsive as I find Rush's lies and hate speech, during election times I ALWAYS make it a point to monitor this sick, nazi drug addict. With the proper filtering on for what I'm hearing, it's a virtual pipeline from Karl Rove's war room, to my ears.
Fueled, I say again, by those with a vested interest getting out The Message. posted 05/07/2008 at 13:06:50
As repulsive as I find Rush's lies and hate speech, during election times I ALWAYS make it a point to monitor this sick, nazi drug addict. With the proper filtering on for what I'm hearing, it's a virtual pipeline from Karl Rove's war room, to my ears.
Fueled, I say again, by those with a vested interest getting out The Message. posted 05/07/2008 at 13:06:50
Obama wins NC, says near nomination; Clinton wins Indiana
Ah klintonista. Isn't that lovely? Even as she goes down in flames, she race-baits: "SEE? Those dirty Black mayors commit voter fraud! Because, you see, they're BLACK! What did you EXPEC T from BLACK people? They're BLACK, for godssake!"
It is so over for the Clinton family. All they've got is their millions, a gigantic house in Chappaqua, and a legacy that's tainted for all of history.
All she ever had to do was NOT TRIANGULATE... NOT RACE-BAIT... just run on all the real good that she ever actually accomplished, cut the crap... like voting for an immoral war to "look tough".,, and you know, she really would have been the Presumptive Nominee, as we speak.
But no.
Good night. I'm going to bed and observing Radio Silence on the media, tfn. Send me up a carrier pigeon when That Woman finally agrees to get off the goddamned stage, and go home. posted 05/07/2008 at 01:01:19
It is so over for the Clinton family. All they've got is their millions, a gigantic house in Chappaqua, and a legacy that's tainted for all of history.
All she ever had to do was NOT TRIANGULATE... NOT RACE-BAIT... just run on all the real good that she ever actually accomplished, cut the crap... like voting for an immoral war to "look tough".,, and you know, she really would have been the Presumptive Nominee, as we speak.
But no.
Good night. I'm going to bed and observing Radio Silence on the media, tfn. Send me up a carrier pigeon when That Woman finally agrees to get off the goddamned stage, and go home. posted 05/07/2008 at 01:01:19
Exit Polls: Indiana, North Carolina Latest Information
That doesn't BEGIN to cover it...
They KNOW he's a Muslim.
And they HATE his Baptist preacher!
The conflict alarm has STILL not gone off in their little pea-sized Low-Information brains, yet, about this.
Ya gotta love it! posted 05/06/2008 at 19:10:01
They KNOW he's a Muslim.
And they HATE his Baptist preacher!
The conflict alarm has STILL not gone off in their little pea-sized Low-Information brains, yet, about this.
Ya gotta love it! posted 05/06/2008 at 19:10:01
Rashnak:
I have been waiting for someone like you to come along, for quite some time now.
"Low-Information Voter" is an "elitist" term, huh? Guess what, my clueless compadre?
IT'S A **PROFESSIONAL** POLITICAL TERM!
Used BY the pro political consultants, to describe , um, the flyovers. The Stupids.
You think it's a disdainful term? GUESS WHAT?? IT IS!
GUESS WHAT, AGAIN?? It isn't a liberal, progressive, or Democratic term.
IT WAS DEVELOPED BY THE GOP. As a means of identifying America's Truly Gullible.
Now, don't you just feel... so... so LOW-INFORMATION? :-) posted 05/06/2008 at 19:06:24
I have been waiting for someone like you to come along, for quite some time now.
"Low-Information Voter" is an "elitist" term, huh? Guess what, my clueless compadre?
IT'S A **PROFESSIONAL** POLITICAL TERM!
Used BY the pro political consultants, to describe , um, the flyovers. The Stupids.
You think it's a disdainful term? GUESS WHAT?? IT IS!
GUESS WHAT, AGAIN?? It isn't a liberal, progressive, or Democratic term.
IT WAS DEVELOPED BY THE GOP. As a means of identifying America's Truly Gullible.
Now, don't you just feel... so... so LOW-INFORMATION? :-) posted 05/06/2008 at 19:06:24
Indiana, North Carolina Primaries: Voters Get Ready To Settle Remaining Contests
Vet:
Your "sergeant" is forcing you to listen to Republican propaganda? How many of "you" are there? Is this a daily event?
A guy named Spec. Jeremy Hall is currently involved in a lawsuit, and he's expressed the same fears that many military folks have in the past few years: there is currently a very identifiable infiltration of the armed forces by "Rapture" types, who are literally forcing their peculiar brand of religion down the troops' throats in an official manner. To turn away from this indoctrination is to invite retribution.
Hall and others are rightfully concerned that it's a grave national security risk to have military weaponry and order-making authority in the hands of religious nut jobs who freely admit that they WANT the world to end, and that you are expected to sign-onto their agenda (as well as to follow their orders).
What you describe sounds ominously like it may be the other arm of that infiltration. More details, please? posted 05/06/2008 at 13:35:24
Your "sergeant" is forcing you to listen to Republican propaganda? How many of "you" are there? Is this a daily event?
A guy named Spec. Jeremy Hall is currently involved in a lawsuit, and he's expressed the same fears that many military folks have in the past few years: there is currently a very identifiable infiltration of the armed forces by "Rapture" types, who are literally forcing their peculiar brand of religion down the troops' throats in an official manner. To turn away from this indoctrination is to invite retribution.
Hall and others are rightfully concerned that it's a grave national security risk to have military weaponry and order-making authority in the hands of religious nut jobs who freely admit that they WANT the world to end, and that you are expected to sign-onto their agenda (as well as to follow their orders).
What you describe sounds ominously like it may be the other arm of that infiltration. More details, please? posted 05/06/2008 at 13:35:24
Yes, phreso, in fact we do mean "Democrats".
Because your "team" (rah-freakin'-rah, it's all a big game, isn't it?) has anally raped our country to the point where any decent American with a desire to see our very system of government SURVIVE, wants you filthy people, and by that I mean "Republicans", banished to the Phantom Zone for eternity.
And currently... we're in the MAJORITY (no matter how many times O'Reilly tells you we're "far left"!).
So. Any other questions? posted 05/06/2008 at 13:18:16
Because your "team" (rah-freakin'-rah, it's all a big game, isn't it?) has anally raped our country to the point where any decent American with a desire to see our very system of government SURVIVE, wants you filthy people, and by that I mean "Republicans", banished to the Phantom Zone for eternity.
And currently... we're in the MAJORITY (no matter how many times O'Reilly tells you we're "far left"!).
So. Any other questions? posted 05/06/2008 at 13:18:16
And don't forget: when Obama really did cut Hillary's 20-point lead in PA down to 9.2% (or, as Hillary called it, "Double digits!"), the MSM immediately swung into action, and spun it as if Obama were, all of a sudden out of left field, going down the tubes... because he "lost".
Never minding that his delegates increased some more, and hers were still lagging sharply, after PA! Any Low Information Voter, reading or watching literally anything the week after PA, would have thought the PA primary was "winner take all". posted 05/06/2008 at 13:09:18
Never minding that his delegates increased some more, and hers were still lagging sharply, after PA! Any Low Information Voter, reading or watching literally anything the week after PA, would have thought the PA primary was "winner take all". posted 05/06/2008 at 13:09:18
Don't count on it, flatus. Ask Governor Siegelman about how his opponents' numbers were simply cut-and-pasted into his column, and vice-versa.
Read yourself some Greg Palast. Sure, fudging a 52%-48% election is easier because it's all so close and somewhat murky... but if the real numbers are, say, 60-40, ask yourself: do you really think They are just going to relinquish their hold on power voluntarily... because a wider vote theft might "look bad"?
These are not dainty little flowers with a penchant for maintaining the appearance of propriety. They'll do whatever it takes. WHAT. EVER. Christ, you saw a Supreme Court justice give America the finger over the 2000 election on "60 Minutes" a couple of weeks ago... how much blunter do these sons of bitches have to GET with you? posted 05/06/2008 at 13:01:34
Read yourself some Greg Palast. Sure, fudging a 52%-48% election is easier because it's all so close and somewhat murky... but if the real numbers are, say, 60-40, ask yourself: do you really think They are just going to relinquish their hold on power voluntarily... because a wider vote theft might "look bad"?
These are not dainty little flowers with a penchant for maintaining the appearance of propriety. They'll do whatever it takes. WHAT. EVER. Christ, you saw a Supreme Court justice give America the finger over the 2000 election on "60 Minutes" a couple of weeks ago... how much blunter do these sons of bitches have to GET with you? posted 05/06/2008 at 13:01:34
Fine. Take the 18.4 cents off each gallon of gas FROM THE RETAIL PRICE ("record profits", remember?), and leave the tax intact, so that roads get repaired, and the construction workers who do so get to feed their families, and pay THEIR taxes.
Unh-UHH. Can't do THAT, now, can we? That's just crazy talk! Pointy-headed ECONOMISTS!
(Oh yeah. Like she can't mess with the oil companies, but she's really gonna "take on OPEC". This campaign is PRAYING for a surfeit of Stupids.) posted 05/06/2008 at 12:45:07
Unh-UHH. Can't do THAT, now, can we? That's just crazy talk! Pointy-headed ECONOMISTS!
(Oh yeah. Like she can't mess with the oil companies, but she's really gonna "take on OPEC". This campaign is PRAYING for a surfeit of Stupids.) posted 05/06/2008 at 12:45:07
What John McCain Told Me, and What it Says About How Far He's Fallen
Sadly, Findlay, many of us more jaded observers must disagree.
Once the race is underway in earnest, the only evidence of McCain's lack of integrity will be revealed in what measured criticism the Democratic candidate may dare to offer in paid television commercials.
Anything truly damaging to McCain that is said on the stump or by surrogates will be ignored by the mainstream media.
America's Stupids will hear exactly what corporate media wants them to hear. They will do any and everything to help the GOP savage the Democratic candidate. And the Dems, as always being too "high road", will never savage anybody.
I'm telling you: unless, two months before the election, the man dies... as in rigor mortis and funeral-type "dies"... he's your next president. I'm really sorry about this, believe me. posted 05/05/2008 at 23:56:26
Once the race is underway in earnest, the only evidence of McCain's lack of integrity will be revealed in what measured criticism the Democratic candidate may dare to offer in paid television commercials.
Anything truly damaging to McCain that is said on the stump or by surrogates will be ignored by the mainstream media.
America's Stupids will hear exactly what corporate media wants them to hear. They will do any and everything to help the GOP savage the Democratic candidate. And the Dems, as always being too "high road", will never savage anybody.
I'm telling you: unless, two months before the election, the man dies... as in rigor mortis and funeral-type "dies"... he's your next president. I'm really sorry about this, believe me. posted 05/05/2008 at 23:56:26
You can keep catching John McCain in big, documentable lies for "100 more years".
In the mainstream media, he will always be the "straight talker". Period. They have their narrative, and goddammit, that's IT. Stop annoying them with these futile distractions.
Unless the man literally dies... as in "drops dead and has no pulse"... in Sepember, the mainstream media will dutifully trash the Democrat, and continue to cannonize this lying, phony, corrupt sonofabitch.
Representative democracy no longer works. For some strange reason, the Founding Fathers, when configuring our system of governement, did not take into consideration 300 million people, getting their Reality 24/7 from corporate-owned mass media.
... and if you don't believe me, let's see how much of Arianna's hard-hitting retort makes it into the WaPo, the Times, NBC or CNN. posted 05/05/2008 at 23:34:20
In the mainstream media, he will always be the "straight talker". Period. They have their narrative, and goddammit, that's IT. Stop annoying them with these futile distractions.
Unless the man literally dies... as in "drops dead and has no pulse"... in Sepember, the mainstream media will dutifully trash the Democrat, and continue to cannonize this lying, phony, corrupt sonofabitch.
Representative democracy no longer works. For some strange reason, the Founding Fathers, when configuring our system of governement, did not take into consideration 300 million people, getting their Reality 24/7 from corporate-owned mass media.
... and if you don't believe me, let's see how much of Arianna's hard-hitting retort makes it into the WaPo, the Times, NBC or CNN. posted 05/05/2008 at 23:34:20
Clinton Camp Says It Will Use The Nuclear Option
Abbie baby:
Did it ever once occur to you that if Sen. Clinton had merely stuck to all the good you admit she accomplished, and not felt the need to triangulate (e.g., vote for war; vote against amendment on vote for war; vote for Kyl-Lieberman; race-bait in the primary...), you'd have your candidate in the GE, already?
Get real. She and her flying monkeys strategized that the nation was a whole hell of a lot more Republican than it really is. I understand; those goopers can be mighty mean and loud and scary and intimidating. To hear Rush tell it, there's six of us, and the whole rest of America is a toxic waste dump of friggin' idiot dittoheads. Too bad your mama there bought right into that horseshit.
But it would have been nice if the old broad had stuck to PRINCIPLES, instead of trying to CYA, as shamelessly and obscenely as she did.
Your favored candidate needs to take some responsibility for her own tactical screwups (prolly not in MY damned lifetime...). posted 05/05/2008 at 13:57:12
Did it ever once occur to you that if Sen. Clinton had merely stuck to all the good you admit she accomplished, and not felt the need to triangulate (e.g., vote for war; vote against amendment on vote for war; vote for Kyl-Lieberman; race-bait in the primary...), you'd have your candidate in the GE, already?
Get real. She and her flying monkeys strategized that the nation was a whole hell of a lot more Republican than it really is. I understand; those goopers can be mighty mean and loud and scary and intimidating. To hear Rush tell it, there's six of us, and the whole rest of America is a toxic waste dump of friggin' idiot dittoheads. Too bad your mama there bought right into that horseshit.
But it would have been nice if the old broad had stuck to PRINCIPLES, instead of trying to CYA, as shamelessly and obscenely as she did.
Your favored candidate needs to take some responsibility for her own tactical screwups (prolly not in MY damned lifetime...). posted 05/05/2008 at 13:57:12
No, billsmile, silly...
The "far left" is anyone who disagrees with Bill O'Reilly's position on anything (and if that should change in midstream, kindly change along with it, or forever be branded with the fatal epithet of being "far left", yourself!).
Hope this clarifies things [g]. posted 05/05/2008 at 13:45:31
The "far left" is anyone who disagrees with Bill O'Reilly's position on anything (and if that should change in midstream, kindly change along with it, or forever be branded with the fatal epithet of being "far left", yourself!).
Hope this clarifies things [g]. posted 05/05/2008 at 13:45:31
I was curious if you are aware that the election for President Of The United States takes place in *November* of this year?
Special mention: the NOMINATION. Or, as I like to call it, the subject of this discussion. It's pretty well-known that once a candidate has the NOMINATION (no matter who it may be), all sorts of tectonic shifts occur.
Your post assumes that by consulting a theoritcal stat based on current polling conditions, you somehow have the line on who will win the election. This is impossible, but thanks for playing. posted 05/05/2008 at 13:29:55
Special mention: the NOMINATION. Or, as I like to call it, the subject of this discussion. It's pretty well-known that once a candidate has the NOMINATION (no matter who it may be), all sorts of tectonic shifts occur.
Your post assumes that by consulting a theoritcal stat based on current polling conditions, you somehow have the line on who will win the election. This is impossible, but thanks for playing. posted 05/05/2008 at 13:29:55
No-o-ooo... it would mean that 2 was a fix and 3 was pre-scripted for release just after 2.
(C'mon, folks! Tempo! Tempo! Keep up, here! I gotta do it ALL!) posted 05/04/2008 at 21:07:26
(C'mon, folks! Tempo! Tempo! Keep up, here! I gotta do it ALL!) posted 05/04/2008 at 21:07:26
So Hillary steals the nomination by seating delgates from states where Obama wasn't even on the ballot. Try THIS scenario:
1. Dems get mad. All over America. Dems speak out;
2. THIS little front organization:
http://www.recreate68.org/
... encourages mad activists to get rowdy in Denver. Several do. While they are there, trouble happens;
3. The MSM, with the breast-beating and croc tears of GOP talking heads like Buchanan and Bennett, push HARD the meme that just like 1968, the Democratic Party represents a bunch of un-American ruffians who are NOT LIKE US;
4. Between the independent American Stupids going for this; plus the activist base staying home; plus enough disgruntled mainstream Dems; plus all the R's voting for McCain...
... see post by Nobuks, above.
p.s... Also, if you're in one of the cities where it will be opening in limited release this month, see "War, Inc.", which premiered this weekend at the Tribeca Film Festival and broke all records. It's the "Network" of political movies. It couldn't even have been made five years ago, when it was first on the drawing table. posted 05/04/2008 at 19:45:48
1. Dems get mad. All over America. Dems speak out;
2. THIS little front organization:
http://www.recreate68.org/
... encourages mad activists to get rowdy in Denver. Several do. While they are there, trouble happens;
3. The MSM, with the breast-beating and croc tears of GOP talking heads like Buchanan and Bennett, push HARD the meme that just like 1968, the Democratic Party represents a bunch of un-American ruffians who are NOT LIKE US;
4. Between the independent American Stupids going for this; plus the activist base staying home; plus enough disgruntled mainstream Dems; plus all the R's voting for McCain...
... see post by Nobuks, above.
p.s... Also, if you're in one of the cities where it will be opening in limited release this month, see "War, Inc.", which premiered this weekend at the Tribeca Film Festival and broke all records. It's the "Network" of political movies. It couldn't even have been made five years ago, when it was first on the drawing table. posted 05/04/2008 at 19:45:48
Rove's Next Trick -- If Obama Must Answer For His Minister Now, Just Wait to See What the Republicans Will Do To Clinton Inc. in October
Shorter Schaefer: "Rove will again form coalition of Stupids to swing election". That's all he's ever done: coalesced into a voting bloc all Americans who should not be tainting the voting process with a vote based on lies or ignorance.
If you think that's "elitist", perhaps you could explain to me why this group has a label, within the industry known as professional politics: "LOW-INFORMATION VOTER". They're well-known, and they're led by the nose (or other appendage) accordingly.
The frustrating thing is that when it all comes to pass, once again Rove will be touted as a "genius". Not even close.
If Hillary steals the nomination* (* = virtually the ONLY way to win at this juncture), the longtime Democratic Party bromide, "where ELSE they gonna go, hah?" will short to ground, for the first time in recent history. This time, in addition to the coalition of Stupids, you will see scads of mainstream Democrats and left-leaning netroots activists... as well as newly-minted independents, sick of so-called conservatism and ready for "change"... turning their backs in disgust on a party that made it clear it didn't give a damn about the small-d democratic process. Republican voters will outnumber Dems. They could run Bush again, and he'd win (hell, they could run Barney).
The Democratic Party will be DEAD, and that pale-skinned, wisp-haired, piglet-faced traitor will again receive fascist kudos for his allegedly unwordly intellect and ability. posted 05/05/2008 at 11:19:28
If you think that's "elitist", perhaps you could explain to me why this group has a label, within the industry known as professional politics: "LOW-INFORMATION VOTER". They're well-known, and they're led by the nose (or other appendage) accordingly.
The frustrating thing is that when it all comes to pass, once again Rove will be touted as a "genius". Not even close.
If Hillary steals the nomination* (* = virtually the ONLY way to win at this juncture), the longtime Democratic Party bromide, "where ELSE they gonna go, hah?" will short to ground, for the first time in recent history. This time, in addition to the coalition of Stupids, you will see scads of mainstream Democrats and left-leaning netroots activists... as well as newly-minted independents, sick of so-called conservatism and ready for "change"... turning their backs in disgust on a party that made it clear it didn't give a damn about the small-d democratic process. Republican voters will outnumber Dems. They could run Bush again, and he'd win (hell, they could run Barney).
The Democratic Party will be DEAD, and that pale-skinned, wisp-haired, piglet-faced traitor will again receive fascist kudos for his allegedly unwordly intellect and ability. posted 05/05/2008 at 11:19:28
Johnny Come Late-Nightly
1. Regardless of whether Letterman is yor particular cup of tea, his "brand" has remained unchanged for decades: he's the mainstream host who made snark mass appeal. All other snarky, satirical non-sketch shows owe him for the DNA.
That said, David Letterman's rude and mocking take on The Decider was first in its field. You need only bring yourself back to the mindset of 2003, where you might burst out in grateful tears if you found yourself fortunate enough to discover, say, a website where the administration was so much as being CRITICIZED.
Letterman's relentless "Great Moments in Presidential Speechmaking" (among many other Bush-related slams) took anti-Bush sentiment in the MSM to a whole new level. Mockery of a vindictive administration (think "V For Vendetta") became acceptable, because of Letterman. Wide audiences could now see nightly that the chimp had no vocabulary. If you don't think that was instrumental in helping Bush achieve his vaunted 28%, you're nuts;
2. Re Bill Maher: I really don't think "Reverend Wright is a dick!" qualifies as, how you say, "fresh and exciting". posted 05/01/2008 at 12:07:57
That said, David Letterman's rude and mocking take on The Decider was first in its field. You need only bring yourself back to the mindset of 2003, where you might burst out in grateful tears if you found yourself fortunate enough to discover, say, a website where the administration was so much as being CRITICIZED.
Letterman's relentless "Great Moments in Presidential Speechmaking" (among many other Bush-related slams) took anti-Bush sentiment in the MSM to a whole new level. Mockery of a vindictive administration (think "V For Vendetta") became acceptable, because of Letterman. Wide audiences could now see nightly that the chimp had no vocabulary. If you don't think that was instrumental in helping Bush achieve his vaunted 28%, you're nuts;
2. Re Bill Maher: I really don't think "Reverend Wright is a dick!" qualifies as, how you say, "fresh and exciting". posted 05/01/2008 at 12:07:57
MoveOn: Obama Got Outfoxed
I realize MoveOn.org has an institutional bone to pick with Fox News, and I have always agreed with your position on it; still do, to an extent.
I just feel your take on Obama's doing a 180 and going into the belly of the beast is less disastrous than your knee-jerk reaction to it might suggest.
I disagree that he was rope-a-doped into sliming liberals. So WHAT if he said that Republicans have good ideas sometimes? So WHAT if he offered that DailyKos slaps him around, occasionally? What does that change? That's right. NOTHING.
Except for the fact that the Fox News Fans with the chromosome damage and the beer cans see a very calm non-Reverend Wright, looking that GOP apologist/weasel Chris Wallace straight in the eye, and telling him, "If I'm such a liberal, how come I invoke the ire of liberals?" Their heads exploded, believe me. This appearence was not for mainstream voters, but to demoralize the enemy. Hell, I think it was a pretty good gambit.
He did not "legitimize" Fox News. If he and Hillary or he and McCain agree to a Fox-moderated debate in the future, well then you will have a point. Until then, realize how much of your reaction is pure ego for defying the Plan, and understand that cumulatively, Good was done here on Sunday. Treasure the small victories.
GREAT &*#^ing TV spot, BTW. posted 04/29/2008 at 12:06:18
I just feel your take on Obama's doing a 180 and going into the belly of the beast is less disastrous than your knee-jerk reaction to it might suggest.
I disagree that he was rope-a-doped into sliming liberals. So WHAT if he said that Republicans have good ideas sometimes? So WHAT if he offered that DailyKos slaps him around, occasionally? What does that change? That's right. NOTHING.
Except for the fact that the Fox News Fans with the chromosome damage and the beer cans see a very calm non-Reverend Wright, looking that GOP apologist/weasel Chris Wallace straight in the eye, and telling him, "If I'm such a liberal, how come I invoke the ire of liberals?" Their heads exploded, believe me. This appearence was not for mainstream voters, but to demoralize the enemy. Hell, I think it was a pretty good gambit.
He did not "legitimize" Fox News. If he and Hillary or he and McCain agree to a Fox-moderated debate in the future, well then you will have a point. Until then, realize how much of your reaction is pure ego for defying the Plan, and understand that cumulatively, Good was done here on Sunday. Treasure the small victories.
GREAT &*#^ing TV spot, BTW. posted 04/29/2008 at 12:06:18
Rev. Jeremiah Wright's Media Blitz Forces Barack Obama to Face the Angry Black Man Test -- Again
unbias (HAHAHAHAAA...):
"... one kid the Al was deperatly trying to get out of jail already has a history of violence & violent crimes."
If there is any difference between this tactic, and Mayor Giuliani calling the totally innocent murder victim of a roided-up piece of crap undercover drug cop "not exactly an altar boy" (wrong on all counts, BTW, but who's counting?)... I'd love to know what it is. You suck.
urfree2speak:
The biggest "trouble brewing" with the Black community, as I see it, is that the old Democratic voter strategy of swinging to the right, and then saying, "Well, where are they gonna GO?", is about to die hard.
This time, you will still have 92% of the Black vote going to the Dems... but this time, it will be 92% of a severely-depleted cume of Black voters. FAR fewer than normal Blacks WILL VOTE AT ALL, if they see the Party steal this from Obama in the smoke-filled rooms of the delegates. They will NOT look at Hillary as the "lesser of two evils". Take that to the bank.
This time, the Black community has "skin in the game". Steal away from them the real likelihood of the first Black president, and the Dems will get religion FAST. posted 04/28/2008 at 16:26:11
"... one kid the Al was deperatly trying to get out of jail already has a history of violence & violent crimes."
If there is any difference between this tactic, and Mayor Giuliani calling the totally innocent murder victim of a roided-up piece of crap undercover drug cop "not exactly an altar boy" (wrong on all counts, BTW, but who's counting?)... I'd love to know what it is. You suck.
urfree2speak:
The biggest "trouble brewing" with the Black community, as I see it, is that the old Democratic voter strategy of swinging to the right, and then saying, "Well, where are they gonna GO?", is about to die hard.
This time, you will still have 92% of the Black vote going to the Dems... but this time, it will be 92% of a severely-depleted cume of Black voters. FAR fewer than normal Blacks WILL VOTE AT ALL, if they see the Party steal this from Obama in the smoke-filled rooms of the delegates. They will NOT look at Hillary as the "lesser of two evils". Take that to the bank.
This time, the Black community has "skin in the game". Steal away from them the real likelihood of the first Black president, and the Dems will get religion FAST. posted 04/28/2008 at 16:26:11
No, dimbulb, the sound bytes WERE **NOT** ENOUGH.
Much as you and your ilk would like us to believe they were. posted 04/28/2008 at 16:11:27
Much as you and your ilk would like us to believe they were. posted 04/28/2008 at 16:11:27
nccp: think about what you yourself just said. THINK about it...
... would YOU like a "lifetime of work reduced to 30 second sound bites"?
Would YOU just sit on your ass, after you'd spent all your life trying in the most ambitious way you knew how to end racism and bring God to thousands of parishoners... just because one guy among them is now running for office and is subject to being slimed on any and everything?
Would YOU be shutting up and allowing yourself to become America's household word for "angry Black fool", for the rest of recorded history? Is that the epitaph YOU'D quietly accept?
Not. Bloody. Likely. posted 04/28/2008 at 13:40:41
... would YOU like a "lifetime of work reduced to 30 second sound bites"?
Would YOU just sit on your ass, after you'd spent all your life trying in the most ambitious way you knew how to end racism and bring God to thousands of parishoners... just because one guy among them is now running for office and is subject to being slimed on any and everything?
Would YOU be shutting up and allowing yourself to become America's household word for "angry Black fool", for the rest of recorded history? Is that the epitaph YOU'D quietly accept?
Not. Bloody. Likely. posted 04/28/2008 at 13:40:41
Listen, I'm white, and I was moved by the Rev. Wright on "Bill Moyers' Journal". Any other white person posting here, calling Wright names like "Race-baiter" and "egomaniac" and "crazy" (did I leave anything out?) NEVER WATCHED THE INTERVIEW.
You know what's telling? THEY NEVER WOULD HAVE, IN THE FIRST PLACE. These are the target audience of this smear: whites who just don't like Uppity Negroes. Tthe press' imprimatur on the sliming of Rev. Wright gives you cover to practice your racist views, which haven't changed a bit since those repressed days, BEFORE you ever heard of the guy!
I'm not sure what point the author, Mr. Deggans, is trying to make. On the one hand, it seems he, too, is uncomfortable with the return of Rev. Wright from the living dead (albeit from a pragmatic, not racist, POV).
On the other hand, LISTEN when Deggans says that Obama is functioning in a virtual world of sound bytes and gotcha. If, EVERY time the name "Rev. Jeremiah Wright" were mentioned, the Obama campaign itself would invoke "WILLIE HORTON", this whole mess could short to ground in a month.
Americans didn't know Willie Horton when they were first hit by him... BUT THEY SURE AS HELL DO NOW! It's a synonym for "high-tech lynching" (to borrow from a wingnut).
Remind America that's what they're seeing. USE IT. posted 04/28/2008 at 13:15:03
You know what's telling? THEY NEVER WOULD HAVE, IN THE FIRST PLACE. These are the target audience of this smear: whites who just don't like Uppity Negroes. Tthe press' imprimatur on the sliming of Rev. Wright gives you cover to practice your racist views, which haven't changed a bit since those repressed days, BEFORE you ever heard of the guy!
I'm not sure what point the author, Mr. Deggans, is trying to make. On the one hand, it seems he, too, is uncomfortable with the return of Rev. Wright from the living dead (albeit from a pragmatic, not racist, POV).
On the other hand, LISTEN when Deggans says that Obama is functioning in a virtual world of sound bytes and gotcha. If, EVERY time the name "Rev. Jeremiah Wright" were mentioned, the Obama campaign itself would invoke "WILLIE HORTON", this whole mess could short to ground in a month.
Americans didn't know Willie Horton when they were first hit by him... BUT THEY SURE AS HELL DO NOW! It's a synonym for "high-tech lynching" (to borrow from a wingnut).
Remind America that's what they're seeing. USE IT. posted 04/28/2008 at 13:15:03
DNC Iraq McCain Ad Sparks Controversy: Watch Video
IndependentMeans:
If the GOP and the MSM are going bonkers today, it's only because they always just assumed no one would ever seriously call them on the bullshit. Bullies always go bonkers, when they experience their first bloody nose.
Joe McCarthy and his supporters were, similarly, apoplectic when Edward R. Murrow exposed him on "See It Now".
Murrow's only uniqueness was that he was the first public person with the cojones simply to say what everyone knew.
We never had to "learn" what to say, in response to the right wing noise machine. We've always known how to speak truth to Rove's Big Lie. All it took was DOING IT. Like Murrow did. Screw the fear. DO WHAT'S RIGHT.
I must confess... part of me is just sitting here, fists clenched, waiting tor The Apology and the yanking of the ad... but maybe not THIS time, eh? posted 04/27/2008 at 12:36:14
If the GOP and the MSM are going bonkers today, it's only because they always just assumed no one would ever seriously call them on the bullshit. Bullies always go bonkers, when they experience their first bloody nose.
Joe McCarthy and his supporters were, similarly, apoplectic when Edward R. Murrow exposed him on "See It Now".
Murrow's only uniqueness was that he was the first public person with the cojones simply to say what everyone knew.
We never had to "learn" what to say, in response to the right wing noise machine. We've always known how to speak truth to Rove's Big Lie. All it took was DOING IT. Like Murrow did. Screw the fear. DO WHAT'S RIGHT.
I must confess... part of me is just sitting here, fists clenched, waiting tor The Apology and the yanking of the ad... but maybe not THIS time, eh? posted 04/27/2008 at 12:36:14
[Um, what happened THERE? Okay, Gasbag Fulminations, Take Two:]
TexFem: with all due respect (the "get out of jail free" card of personal attacks! :-), please look up the word:
"OBLITERATE".
Ya know, we could spend all day discussing Hillary's actual record, but this'll work fine for our purposes, here.
Chill down, have a nice beverage, send a few bucks to Howard and company. posted 04/27/2008 at 12:19:24
TexFem: with all due respect (the "get out of jail free" card of personal attacks! :-), please look up the word:
"OBLITERATE".
Ya know, we could spend all day discussing Hillary's actual record, but this'll work fine for our purposes, here.
Chill down, have a nice beverage, send a few bucks to Howard and company. posted 04/27/2008 at 12:19:24
TxFem: with all due respect ( posted 04/27/2008 at 12:06:50
He's BACK! MiniMike!! WOO HOO!!
Made my day (that is, after my first "made my day" moment, which is when I saw the ad!)!
(Sp mention: CyrusB. Absurdism in the face of fascism is no turnip! :-) posted 04/27/2008 at 11:50:29
Made my day (that is, after my first "made my day" moment, which is when I saw the ad!)!
(Sp mention: CyrusB. Absurdism in the face of fascism is no turnip! :-) posted 04/27/2008 at 11:50:29
Why Is It So Quiet After the Moyers-Wright Interview?
Here is the important takeaway from this entire Wright flap:
This was meant to slam-dunk a helpless and clueless Obama campaign, precisely as had Willie Horton in 1988. Still hasn't happened.
If Obama survives this (VERY likely), and neither the nomination nor the election is stolen nor tampered-with, this spells the end of oppo politics. THE END.
Karl Rove, Floyd Brown, Arthur Finkelstein, R,. Emmitt Tyrell... they all go straight down the crapper, and die there, as sheer human decency dicated they should have, decades ago.
THEY KNOW THIS. We've had a major generational change and cultural shift since Reagan first hit the post-Watergate scene. If Obama plays it so cool their sick and treasonous mass-bamboozling methods become ineffective, these sons of bitches go fishing permanently. They do NOT want to lose their jobs, and they are 98% convinced it's coming, regardless.
How about a new meme: REPUBLICAN OPPO TYPES ARE IN FEAR FOR THEIR VERY LIVES.... OBAMA MUST BE STOPPED (... if you're They..). posted 04/28/2008 at 20:41:02
This was meant to slam-dunk a helpless and clueless Obama campaign, precisely as had Willie Horton in 1988. Still hasn't happened.
If Obama survives this (VERY likely), and neither the nomination nor the election is stolen nor tampered-with, this spells the end of oppo politics. THE END.
Karl Rove, Floyd Brown, Arthur Finkelstein, R,. Emmitt Tyrell... they all go straight down the crapper, and die there, as sheer human decency dicated they should have, decades ago.
THEY KNOW THIS. We've had a major generational change and cultural shift since Reagan first hit the post-Watergate scene. If Obama plays it so cool their sick and treasonous mass-bamboozling methods become ineffective, these sons of bitches go fishing permanently. They do NOT want to lose their jobs, and they are 98% convinced it's coming, regardless.
How about a new meme: REPUBLICAN OPPO TYPES ARE IN FEAR FOR THEIR VERY LIVES.... OBAMA MUST BE STOPPED (... if you're They..). posted 04/28/2008 at 20:41:02
Sadly, not really. The media is spinning what they WANT you to think Wright did and said, not the interview we actually saw.
Before it was broadcast, Joe Scarborough was at the top of his lungs on MSNBC, decrying how "this guy" is "Obama's worst nighmare" for coming back and not staying marginalized like he was supposed to.
And on Friday night, for the same crime, Bill Maher called him a "dick". posted 04/28/2008 at 01:50:07
Before it was broadcast, Joe Scarborough was at the top of his lungs on MSNBC, decrying how "this guy" is "Obama's worst nighmare" for coming back and not staying marginalized like he was supposed to.
And on Friday night, for the same crime, Bill Maher called him a "dick". posted 04/28/2008 at 01:50:07
Cop Acquittal in the Sean Bell Killing Was Inevitable
See my comment above, Nicolja. I am not the first person to observe that when a Black officer enters the force, he or she is a member of the police culture first; Black man/woman, New Yorker or American... someplace down the list.
It's all about the cop culture. I can't do a dissertation on it here, and you wouldn't get it anyway. posted 04/25/2008 at 17:46:10
It's all about the cop culture. I can't do a dissertation on it here, and you wouldn't get it anyway. posted 04/25/2008 at 17:46:10
I'm sick of the mantra, "The officer, in fear for his life..".
It's the secret handshake. Say that, you're good to go. I wasn't aware that a governmental arm, with lethal weapons and a fondness for 'roids, could perennially have so much "fear".
Can't we try to hire LESS SCARED police?
I've always had a theory why courts won't convict officers who clearly acted murderously against random, innocent Black men (yes, I'm aware that two of the officers were Black. It's not the color of the officers, but the culture to which they've attached themselves).
If you were to wake up a typical American (any color) at 4 a.m., and say, "Quick! What color is America?", the answer would be "White!". We see everything through the lens of America as a white nation; it's our Official POV; e.g., we don't worry about whether Blacks will accept Clinton; we stress over whether Whites will accept Obama. It's our starting position.
When a cop murder case gets to a judge or a jury, that court knows damned well the cop did a horrible thing. But unlike civilians who did a horrible thing, the court knows that if we take away the police force's blank check to off a Black guy at will, that balance of power will shift. It won't be a White nation anymore, the day that happens.
It's a cultural message, that has nothing to do with the actual crime: "We're still in charge". posted 04/25/2008 at 14:59:44
It's the secret handshake. Say that, you're good to go. I wasn't aware that a governmental arm, with lethal weapons and a fondness for 'roids, could perennially have so much "fear".
Can't we try to hire LESS SCARED police?
I've always had a theory why courts won't convict officers who clearly acted murderously against random, innocent Black men (yes, I'm aware that two of the officers were Black. It's not the color of the officers, but the culture to which they've attached themselves).
If you were to wake up a typical American (any color) at 4 a.m., and say, "Quick! What color is America?", the answer would be "White!". We see everything through the lens of America as a white nation; it's our Official POV; e.g., we don't worry about whether Blacks will accept Clinton; we stress over whether Whites will accept Obama. It's our starting position.
When a cop murder case gets to a judge or a jury, that court knows damned well the cop did a horrible thing. But unlike civilians who did a horrible thing, the court knows that if we take away the police force's blank check to off a Black guy at will, that balance of power will shift. It won't be a White nation anymore, the day that happens.
It's a cultural message, that has nothing to do with the actual crime: "We're still in charge". posted 04/25/2008 at 14:59:44
George McGovern: Still Backing Clinton, But Going Way Off Script
I have to wonder about how Sen. McGovern feels, knowing that the Clinton campaign is now the latest culprit, in the use of his name as shorthand for "loser".
There was a time when only Republicans smirked at this man's life and accomplishments, for the crime of not winning a stupid election 36 years ago.
Now, the Clinton campaign is in for the kill, using MSM surrogates by the dozen to scare superdelegates into thinking we're going to have some sort of White Landslide for John McCain, if anyone is stupid enough to nominate Obama.
And they're using George McGovern as the poster boy for that. If I were the Senator, I'd do something about that. posted 04/25/2008 at 15:11:59
There was a time when only Republicans smirked at this man's life and accomplishments, for the crime of not winning a stupid election 36 years ago.
Now, the Clinton campaign is in for the kill, using MSM surrogates by the dozen to scare superdelegates into thinking we're going to have some sort of White Landslide for John McCain, if anyone is stupid enough to nominate Obama.
And they're using George McGovern as the poster boy for that. If I were the Senator, I'd do something about that. posted 04/25/2008 at 15:11:59
Keith Olbermann's Idea For Beating Hillary: Literally Beating Hillary
Rachel, my dear:
You think THAT'S bad? Hell, I know one politician, who just the other day, advocated "obliterating" an entire nation of men, women and children with a nuclear weapon!
If you took one of those people, locked them in a room and beat the crap out of them, there's a good chance they'd emerge, eventually.
Incinerating the flesh off their skeletons in a white-hot flash of genocide... not so much.
But thank you, Rachel, for bringing up the inappropriate invocation of violence by contenders for public office (and I'm sure your concern runs deep, wide and without special preference or dispensations for the candidate for whom one regularly shills)! posted 04/25/2008 at 11:54:31
You think THAT'S bad? Hell, I know one politician, who just the other day, advocated "obliterating" an entire nation of men, women and children with a nuclear weapon!
If you took one of those people, locked them in a room and beat the crap out of them, there's a good chance they'd emerge, eventually.
Incinerating the flesh off their skeletons in a white-hot flash of genocide... not so much.
But thank you, Rachel, for bringing up the inappropriate invocation of violence by contenders for public office (and I'm sure your concern runs deep, wide and without special preference or dispensations for the candidate for whom one regularly shills)! posted 04/25/2008 at 11:54:31
Excerpts from Rev. Jeremiah Wright Interview with Bill Moyers
Didn't you hear? There's no such thing as a Vicki Iseman. The MSM has declared her Invisible. The only reason her name was ever (improperly) made public, is because the New York Times is lib'rul.
Nothing to see here; go back to your homes. posted 04/24/2008 at 19:12:16
Nothing to see here; go back to your homes. posted 04/24/2008 at 19:12:16
The Self-Loathing Liberal Media
Back at my ass.
1. Paul Begala (mainstream "Establishment" Dem) vs. Everybody Else... HOW OFTEN? Oh, I know. Too often for YOU;
2. Roland Martin. I'm a fairly plugged-in media-oriented individual.
Who the fu*k is "Roland Martin"?
3. "The other black guy".
Holy crap! You mean... they now have TWO?
(And, are you sure it wasn't Professional Conservative Black Pundit Juan Williams? Or Armstrong Williams? Or some other "black guy" named Williams?);
4. "Two women that I can't remember their names". Well, they must be awfully influential, not to mention ubiquitous.
You know, you really are one of the dumber flyovers. Dismissed. posted 04/24/2008 at 15:52:36
1. Paul Begala (mainstream "Establishment" Dem) vs. Everybody Else... HOW OFTEN? Oh, I know. Too often for YOU;
2. Roland Martin. I'm a fairly plugged-in media-oriented individual.
Who the fu*k is "Roland Martin"?
3. "The other black guy".
Holy crap! You mean... they now have TWO?
(And, are you sure it wasn't Professional Conservative Black Pundit Juan Williams? Or Armstrong Williams? Or some other "black guy" named Williams?);
4. "Two women that I can't remember their names". Well, they must be awfully influential, not to mention ubiquitous.
You know, you really are one of the dumber flyovers. Dismissed. posted 04/24/2008 at 15:52:36
timothe:
Take the Kool-Aid out of your mouth for five seconds, please, and list the "5 liberals" in your anecdote. Be specific. Name names.
Thank you. posted 04/24/2008 at 15:08:00
Take the Kool-Aid out of your mouth for five seconds, please, and list the "5 liberals" in your anecdote. Be specific. Name names.
Thank you. posted 04/24/2008 at 15:08:00
Actually, I'd like to join this office pool.
It's true Rachel speaks with a clarity and grasp of facts that makes a simple, "Oh, she's just a Lib'rul!" sound like the sour grapes of a simpleton.
But her presence on American television of ANY kind is an anomaly. Every day she's there is another nervous moment for us, because she's speaking truth to power.
"Power" = the people who own these pop stands. Not bloody likely they're going to continue to tolerate a superior commentator, who causes the Chosen Pundits to storm off. I'd give up my left testicle, if I were to find out that Joe Scarborough has not already attempted to have her fired from MSNBC and banished from TV. My bet? She's gone by July.
Meanwhile, someone tell me the last time Tucker Carlson or Pat Buchanan was off TV for any three-month stretch. posted 04/24/2008 at 15:00:24
It's true Rachel speaks with a clarity and grasp of facts that makes a simple, "Oh, she's just a Lib'rul!" sound like the sour grapes of a simpleton.
But her presence on American television of ANY kind is an anomaly. Every day she's there is another nervous moment for us, because she's speaking truth to power.
"Power" = the people who own these pop stands. Not bloody likely they're going to continue to tolerate a superior commentator, who causes the Chosen Pundits to storm off. I'd give up my left testicle, if I were to find out that Joe Scarborough has not already attempted to have her fired from MSNBC and banished from TV. My bet? She's gone by July.
Meanwhile, someone tell me the last time Tucker Carlson or Pat Buchanan was off TV for any three-month stretch. posted 04/24/2008 at 15:00:24
We've got to stop pushing the theory that somehow, these multi-billion dollar mass media corporations were just "cowed" by a group of strident, academic True Believers.
THIS IS WHO THEY ARE. This is who they ALL are. ESPECIALLY the corporations.
ABC Radio... nazis, wall-to-wall. CNN (Time Warner): screw the Headline "News", Glenn Beck WILL have a gig. Scan your AM dial outside any major city in the daytime. Count the number of frequencies where the drug-addicted liar is bloviating. Plus all the ones you mentioned. Ya think there's an AGENDA here?
Believe me, these people weren't duped into anything. They own the megaphone, and by Jesus Christ, thei narrative WILL go into every frickin' home in America, like Orwell's goddamned telescreens. posted 04/24/2008 at 14:48:23
THIS IS WHO THEY ARE. This is who they ALL are. ESPECIALLY the corporations.
ABC Radio... nazis, wall-to-wall. CNN (Time Warner): screw the Headline "News", Glenn Beck WILL have a gig. Scan your AM dial outside any major city in the daytime. Count the number of frequencies where the drug-addicted liar is bloviating. Plus all the ones you mentioned. Ya think there's an AGENDA here?
Believe me, these people weren't duped into anything. They own the megaphone, and by Jesus Christ, thei narrative WILL go into every frickin' home in America, like Orwell's goddamned telescreens. posted 04/24/2008 at 14:48:23
End It Now
"My issue is that everyone is focused on how Obama is losing the White working class vote instead of Clinton losing the African American vote."
You've actually hit on a very interesting core of the whole psychological balance of this thing.
This... and so many other lenses through which Americans view America... assumes that the important POV is that of white America. Black America is still "Them".
We can fault people like Karl Rove for mining the political benefits of divisiveness, but until the national psyche no longer assumes that white America sets the agenda, we are prisoners of our own making.
(/profundity :-) posted 04/25/2008 at 10:47:38
You've actually hit on a very interesting core of the whole psychological balance of this thing.
This... and so many other lenses through which Americans view America... assumes that the important POV is that of white America. Black America is still "Them".
We can fault people like Karl Rove for mining the political benefits of divisiveness, but until the national psyche no longer assumes that white America sets the agenda, we are prisoners of our own making.
(/profundity :-) posted 04/25/2008 at 10:47:38
So in light of all the above posts, I modestly ask: WHERE HAS THIS BURGEONING SENTIMENT BEEN REPORTED IN THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA???
Duh, it hasn't. Further proof that these people are NOT our friends.
D.I.Y., folks. Let 'em all know NOW that the Experts are gonna be stymied, when they wake up and learn the hard way that formerly reliable constituencies are no longer reliable.
Maybe we can head this travesty off at the pass IF THEY KNOW WE'RE SERIOUS.
And no, I don't want McCain either. But I REALLY don't want a McCain in Dem clothing, who will toss the middle class the occasional bone, but serve the same masters.
And use race-baiting to win elections, just like Republicans. posted 04/25/2008 at 00:15:45
Duh, it hasn't. Further proof that these people are NOT our friends.
D.I.Y., folks. Let 'em all know NOW that the Experts are gonna be stymied, when they wake up and learn the hard way that formerly reliable constituencies are no longer reliable.
Maybe we can head this travesty off at the pass IF THEY KNOW WE'RE SERIOUS.
And no, I don't want McCain either. But I REALLY don't want a McCain in Dem clothing, who will toss the middle class the occasional bone, but serve the same masters.
And use race-baiting to win elections, just like Republicans. posted 04/25/2008 at 00:15:45
Excellent!! Give that Anglo woman a cream cheese sandwich! :-)
Okay, here's an idea. Maybe we can prevent this travesty now. How? By doing what the Democratic grassroots have been doing for the past several years. Taking this into our own hands...
Talking to the brothers, now. We need help from the African-American community bigtime, on this one. You want to take it to the streets? Take it to HILLARY. Every appearance. Hog every bit of media that shines a light on her from now until Denver. MOBILIZE. A sea of Black faces, BIG. EVERYWHERE. Old school picket signs with new school organization, chanting:
'STEAL OUR NOMINEE? HOME IS WHERE WE'LL BE!"
(... or something. I ain't the only Shakespeare in the room, folks...)
The pundit shows will go bonkers. They will talk about nothing ELSE, if you pull this off.
Warning: neither the Obama campaign nor the Democratic Party will appreciate this. The calls will be many, loud and angry for you to knock it off.
Screw 'em. This is about YOUR LIVES.
Just a thought..! posted 04/24/2008 at 22:09:06
Okay, here's an idea. Maybe we can prevent this travesty now. How? By doing what the Democratic grassroots have been doing for the past several years. Taking this into our own hands...
Talking to the brothers, now. We need help from the African-American community bigtime, on this one. You want to take it to the streets? Take it to HILLARY. Every appearance. Hog every bit of media that shines a light on her from now until Denver. MOBILIZE. A sea of Black faces, BIG. EVERYWHERE. Old school picket signs with new school organization, chanting:
'STEAL OUR NOMINEE? HOME IS WHERE WE'LL BE!"
(... or something. I ain't the only Shakespeare in the room, folks...)
The pundit shows will go bonkers. They will talk about nothing ELSE, if you pull this off.
Warning: neither the Obama campaign nor the Democratic Party will appreciate this. The calls will be many, loud and angry for you to knock it off.
Screw 'em. This is about YOUR LIVES.
Just a thought..! posted 04/24/2008 at 22:09:06
Shorter SpinCycle (if I understand you correctly):
Hillary will bring the party crashing down in flames before ever giving up. So, to stop this horrible thing from happening, and to save Hillary from herself, Obama needs to take the high road and graciously give up his ambitions for the presidency.
Of course, the other thing Democrats can do is simply not allow her to crash the party in flames... that'd work too... posted 04/24/2008 at 21:34:14
Hillary will bring the party crashing down in flames before ever giving up. So, to stop this horrible thing from happening, and to save Hillary from herself, Obama needs to take the high road and graciously give up his ambitions for the presidency.
Of course, the other thing Democrats can do is simply not allow her to crash the party in flames... that'd work too... posted 04/24/2008 at 21:34:14
1. With regard to the auto race analogy: it's as if along came the 52nd lap, and the judges announced that, "for the good of the race", they were simply going to declare Hillary the winner anyway;
2. Here's another effect that I haven't heard anyone suggest:
If Hillary twists enough arms and clearly subverts the will of the Democratic majority in 2008, that old, reliable percentage of Black Dem voters will shock the pundits on the morning after Election Day, when John McCain accepts victory. Because, for the first time in history, IT'S NOT GONNA BE THERE.
The Black Democratic vote is always taken for granted. Only his time, it has finally printed with the Black community that not only is this the case, but it's as plain as day that now they've got some real skin in the game (and guess what color that skin is).
There has never been a time when Black folks haven't gotten the wrong end of the stick. Only THIS time it's different; if it's the Democratic Party who messes with the democratic process, it's going to deny them the extremely real possibility of the first Black president... I assure you, they will feel no peer pressure to "pull together for the team".
Meaning, Hillary loses in a landslide, and with its reliable minority support vanished, the Democratic Party collapses. posted 04/24/2008 at 21:05:12
2. Here's another effect that I haven't heard anyone suggest:
If Hillary twists enough arms and clearly subverts the will of the Democratic majority in 2008, that old, reliable percentage of Black Dem voters will shock the pundits on the morning after Election Day, when John McCain accepts victory. Because, for the first time in history, IT'S NOT GONNA BE THERE.
The Black Democratic vote is always taken for granted. Only his time, it has finally printed with the Black community that not only is this the case, but it's as plain as day that now they've got some real skin in the game (and guess what color that skin is).
There has never been a time when Black folks haven't gotten the wrong end of the stick. Only THIS time it's different; if it's the Democratic Party who messes with the democratic process, it's going to deny them the extremely real possibility of the first Black president... I assure you, they will feel no peer pressure to "pull together for the team".
Meaning, Hillary loses in a landslide, and with its reliable minority support vanished, the Democratic Party collapses. posted 04/24/2008 at 21:05:12
How Hillary Can Win
Well then. He'd be LOSING, wouldn't he? :-P posted 04/23/2008 at 15:23:57
The Same Old Story: Discrediting Hillary
"Here we go again. Stomp on Hillary for winning. "
WHAT. DID. SHE. WIN?
(Please be SPECIFIC.) posted 04/23/2008 at 16:07:47
WHAT. DID. SHE. WIN?
(Please be SPECIFIC.) posted 04/23/2008 at 16:07:47
Was Race a Strong Factor in Clear Clinton Win in Pennsylvania?
Your comparison of Lincoln's Republican Party of 1860 to the post-Dixiecrat GOP of today is historically ignorant. Not to mention unworkable.
Go read something, and don't come back until you KNOW SOMETHING.
(Too much damned ignorance, around here... too much damned ignorance..!) posted 04/23/2008 at 15:11:39
Go read something, and don't come back until you KNOW SOMETHING.
(Too much damned ignorance, around here... too much damned ignorance..!) posted 04/23/2008 at 15:11:39
I'm an Early Boomer, and I don't have any close friends in my "demo", who think like that. Yeah I know, we're all exceptions...
It may interest you to know that when I was your age (you young whippersnapper, get off my lawn!), there was indeed a small, SMALL group of our demographic contemporaries, who were "the jocks", "the Jesus freaks", "the ROTC types"... and we all thought they were assholes. Had we laughed a little less at them, we might have noticed that they were slowly taking over society, by making alliances with each other, and remarketing themselves as "the mainstream".
But overall, your take on my Boomer generation is really effing retarded. Not to mention bigoted. posted 04/23/2008 at 14:59:53
It may interest you to know that when I was your age (you young whippersnapper, get off my lawn!), there was indeed a small, SMALL group of our demographic contemporaries, who were "the jocks", "the Jesus freaks", "the ROTC types"... and we all thought they were assholes. Had we laughed a little less at them, we might have noticed that they were slowly taking over society, by making alliances with each other, and remarketing themselves as "the mainstream".
But overall, your take on my Boomer generation is really effing retarded. Not to mention bigoted. posted 04/23/2008 at 14:59:53
I do believe Mitchell and Ephron were saying that some whites (and not "whites", generically-speaking) voted for Clinton because they WOULD NEVER HAVE voted for Obama, under any circumstances.
I do believe you know this.
Don't try to make this into "reverse racism" (no such animal, BTW). If you can honestly say that there aren't a goodly number of Americans who just plain flat-out wouldn't vote for a guy because he's Black, then... oh wait, you wouldn't be honest at all. Every child of 6 knows that's the way things go around here.
If you say you don't know this, you're lying. A break? Please? posted 04/23/2008 at 14:48:07
I do believe you know this.
Don't try to make this into "reverse racism" (no such animal, BTW). If you can honestly say that there aren't a goodly number of Americans who just plain flat-out wouldn't vote for a guy because he's Black, then... oh wait, you wouldn't be honest at all. Every child of 6 knows that's the way things go around here.
If you say you don't know this, you're lying. A break? Please? posted 04/23/2008 at 14:48:07
dd: PLEASE stop assuming that old, cliched identity behavior on the part of Blacks! You simply cannot assume that if the R's cynically put a Black face into the VP slot, all the hands would gather on the farm, and start a-whoopin' and a-singin' and a-leapin' for joy. Now THAT'S racist!
I will NEVER... as long as I live... forget the smirk on George H.W. Bush's face (it runs in the family), when he nominated that lowlife scumbag Uncle Tom (yes, I SAID IT!) legal lightweight, Clarence Thomas, to the Supreme Court. You could almost hear the subtext: "HA! What are you little black bastards gonna do NOW?"
Please, a little credit for the Black community. There won't be a Black Republican tsunami if the war criminal Rice is put on the ticket. NOT THAT STUPID. posted 04/23/2008 at 10:03:19
I will NEVER... as long as I live... forget the smirk on George H.W. Bush's face (it runs in the family), when he nominated that lowlife scumbag Uncle Tom (yes, I SAID IT!) legal lightweight, Clarence Thomas, to the Supreme Court. You could almost hear the subtext: "HA! What are you little black bastards gonna do NOW?"
Please, a little credit for the Black community. There won't be a Black Republican tsunami if the war criminal Rice is put on the ticket. NOT THAT STUPID. posted 04/23/2008 at 10:03:19
Clinton says tide is turning
Okay, let's get this straight:
"The tide is turning" is the PERCEPTION these people are working overtime to sell. THERE IS NO REALITY TO THIS.
This was not the Electoral College. This was not "winner take all". She is not running for President Of Pennsylvania. There are no more delegates coming her way, that won't be vastly dwarfed by Obama's new delegates. Obama's old delegates vastly dwarf Hillary's old delegates, now. The smart money says it will only get worse.
This PERCEPTION that some sort of fictitious "tide is turning" is going to be used like a Louisville Slugger to bamboozle: [a] superdelegates, and; [b] committed Obama delegates.
To be clear: THIS IS THE *ONLY* WAY SHE CAN GET THE NOMINATION, NOW. PERIOD.
And that would be a perversion of the clear will of the majority of Dems. This is Rovian psy-ops, pure and simple.
Anyone who would pursue such a Rovian course of action, belongs in Rove's party, period. If she gets the nomination, it will clearly be at the expense of the future of the Democratic Party. posted 04/22/2008 at 23:54:29
"The tide is turning" is the PERCEPTION these people are working overtime to sell. THERE IS NO REALITY TO THIS.
This was not the Electoral College. This was not "winner take all". She is not running for President Of Pennsylvania. There are no more delegates coming her way, that won't be vastly dwarfed by Obama's new delegates. Obama's old delegates vastly dwarf Hillary's old delegates, now. The smart money says it will only get worse.
This PERCEPTION that some sort of fictitious "tide is turning" is going to be used like a Louisville Slugger to bamboozle: [a] superdelegates, and; [b] committed Obama delegates.
To be clear: THIS IS THE *ONLY* WAY SHE CAN GET THE NOMINATION, NOW. PERIOD.
And that would be a perversion of the clear will of the majority of Dems. This is Rovian psy-ops, pure and simple.
Anyone who would pursue such a Rovian course of action, belongs in Rove's party, period. If she gets the nomination, it will clearly be at the expense of the future of the Democratic Party. posted 04/22/2008 at 23:54:29
Lanny Davis: Howard Dean Should Resign If He Helped Kill Debate
There it is... how much more plain would you like it? In a Strip-O-Gram, or a neon billboard?
IF HILLARY STEALS THIS THING, THE CLINTONS WHACK HOWARD DEAN.
"50-state strategy"? Kiss the downticket victories of the past few years goodbye. It's not about those. It's about Bill and Hillary.
I am currently listening to "Race For The White House" on MSNBC... a phalanx of MSM pundits (aided by the impartial contributor from the "Independent Women's Forum", I might add) is in screaming red alarm mode, spinning overtime, almost to a person, that because of the demographics of who actually voted for all those delegates* (* = "Not White Men"), Obama doesn't have a prayer of being elected President.
Expect scorched-earth advance work on this. We've already heard it dropped into the bloodstream today that an Obama candidacy would have as narrow a "real" constituency as George McGovern's in 1972. George McGovern, of course, being a metaphor for "liberal failure".
This will be the drumbeat of every day from now until Denver. posted 04/23/2008 at 18:51:03
IF HILLARY STEALS THIS THING, THE CLINTONS WHACK HOWARD DEAN.
"50-state strategy"? Kiss the downticket victories of the past few years goodbye. It's not about those. It's about Bill and Hillary.
I am currently listening to "Race For The White House" on MSNBC... a phalanx of MSM pundits (aided by the impartial contributor from the "Independent Women's Forum", I might add) is in screaming red alarm mode, spinning overtime, almost to a person, that because of the demographics of who actually voted for all those delegates* (* = "Not White Men"), Obama doesn't have a prayer of being elected President.
Expect scorched-earth advance work on this. We've already heard it dropped into the bloodstream today that an Obama candidacy would have as narrow a "real" constituency as George McGovern's in 1972. George McGovern, of course, being a metaphor for "liberal failure".
This will be the drumbeat of every day from now until Denver. posted 04/23/2008 at 18:51:03
Pennsylvania Exit Polls: Primary Results
Oh, she can "win". It won't be pretty, but...
All she has to do is continue the buzz, which the MSM is more than happy to promote, that we're still in some sort of imagined "horse race". Hillary will then market the buzz to superdelegates... and worse, committed Obama delegates... as a self-fulfilling prophecy that see, the race is close! Everyone SAYS so!
If enough delegates turn their backs on what has become a painfully obvious decision on the part of Democratic voters, then the Clintons bamboozle their way to the nomination.
That's how she can win. But only the nomination. If she disses enough Democrats with this bamboozle, Election Day will be... amazing. Not in the good way, either. posted 04/22/2008 at 22:49:49
All she has to do is continue the buzz, which the MSM is more than happy to promote, that we're still in some sort of imagined "horse race". Hillary will then market the buzz to superdelegates... and worse, committed Obama delegates... as a self-fulfilling prophecy that see, the race is close! Everyone SAYS so!
If enough delegates turn their backs on what has become a painfully obvious decision on the part of Democratic voters, then the Clintons bamboozle their way to the nomination.
That's how she can win. But only the nomination. If she disses enough Democrats with this bamboozle, Election Day will be... amazing. Not in the good way, either. posted 04/22/2008 at 22:49:49
Your post says 10:40 p.m... as of the last take, she was winning by 8%.
Is there some kind of significance to your statement? Because no one seems to remember that she started this race at about an expected 20% advantage.
(I'm just saying.) posted 04/22/2008 at 22:43:07
Is there some kind of significance to your statement? Because no one seems to remember that she started this race at about an expected 20% advantage.
(I'm just saying.) posted 04/22/2008 at 22:43:07
Thoughts on Pennsylvania, Clinton and Obama from a "Realisticrat"
No MrWinky, they are indeed the "results".
And that makes her the "winner".
... IF she's running for President Of Pennsylvania.
But in a primary, some candidates get delegates... some candidates get MORE delegates.
Now do the math: add on the totals from tonight to what has gone down before... and tell us what the "results" are currently. Oops.
The ONLY way she can be the Democratic nominee is to convince delegates that the ever more clear choice of the Democratic rank-and-file should be ignored. That will not be pretty. In terms of the future of the Democratic Party, it will be Death. posted 04/22/2008 at 22:18:54
And that makes her the "winner".
... IF she's running for President Of Pennsylvania.
But in a primary, some candidates get delegates... some candidates get MORE delegates.
Now do the math: add on the totals from tonight to what has gone down before... and tell us what the "results" are currently. Oops.
The ONLY way she can be the Democratic nominee is to convince delegates that the ever more clear choice of the Democratic rank-and-file should be ignored. That will not be pretty. In terms of the future of the Democratic Party, it will be Death. posted 04/22/2008 at 22:18:54
As predicted, the new Clinton meme "A win is a win!", is all over, as we speak.
It is simply untrue. A "win" is not a "winner take all win" in a primary; therefore, in light of Obama's overwhelming dominance in delegates, it's not a "win". It is, however, 100% meaningless.
Most Americans aren't even aware of this (then again, many Americans think Saddam Hussein flew airplanes into the WTC, so who gives a rat's ass...).
So that begs the question of a "realisticrat": how, precisely, CAN Hillary win the nomination?
One way only: she has to arm-twist the remaining superdelegates. She also can be expected to start working on the delegates committed to Obama. That'll go over BIG.
And there lies the rub. What Matthews said earlier about the media creating a "myth" that she could win, IS THE CLINTON STRATEGY. The idea is to start a false buzz that it's a tight race, when it's anything but... and then, to use the buzz itself as a self-fulfilling prophecy to bamboozle the delegates into feeling that that her nomination is doable.
Smoke and mirrors. As for Hillary as the "realisticrat" candidate? Listen, my man... she may well bamboozle herself a nomination, but when you look up on Election Day and see the wind taken out of disillusioned Democratic voters' sails, as it was after the Democratic fat cats annointed Humphrey in '68, all Karl Rove's gotta do is walk in, do his voodoo, and clean up. posted 04/22/2008 at 21:46:16
It is simply untrue. A "win" is not a "winner take all win" in a primary; therefore, in light of Obama's overwhelming dominance in delegates, it's not a "win". It is, however, 100% meaningless.
Most Americans aren't even aware of this (then again, many Americans think Saddam Hussein flew airplanes into the WTC, so who gives a rat's ass...).
So that begs the question of a "realisticrat": how, precisely, CAN Hillary win the nomination?
One way only: she has to arm-twist the remaining superdelegates. She also can be expected to start working on the delegates committed to Obama. That'll go over BIG.
And there lies the rub. What Matthews said earlier about the media creating a "myth" that she could win, IS THE CLINTON STRATEGY. The idea is to start a false buzz that it's a tight race, when it's anything but... and then, to use the buzz itself as a self-fulfilling prophecy to bamboozle the delegates into feeling that that her nomination is doable.
Smoke and mirrors. As for Hillary as the "realisticrat" candidate? Listen, my man... she may well bamboozle herself a nomination, but when you look up on Election Day and see the wind taken out of disillusioned Democratic voters' sails, as it was after the Democratic fat cats annointed Humphrey in '68, all Karl Rove's gotta do is walk in, do his voodoo, and clean up. posted 04/22/2008 at 21:46:16
Pennsylvania Expectations: Clinton, Obama Set The Bar
"A win is a win".
Except no, no it absolutely isn't. Short of the originally anticipated 20-point win, it's garbage, at this point, and yes, of course they know that in the Clinton camp.
Having said that... nice slogan! I would love to have been a fly on the wall, when they focus-tested THAT one.
The problem is, they focus-tested it to see if it would play with "journalists", who, I'm sorry to say, are gonna buy hook, line and sinker that somehow, in a primary where Obama has the lion's share of the delegates, "A win is a win".
It will be the official MSM narrative, as of about 9 p.m. Eastern, I'll bet you the farm and the firstborn. And the reality? It doesn't mean squat.
We currently have the worst "journalists" in the history of the United States of America. posted 04/22/2008 at 17:57:20
Except no, no it absolutely isn't. Short of the originally anticipated 20-point win, it's garbage, at this point, and yes, of course they know that in the Clinton camp.
Having said that... nice slogan! I would love to have been a fly on the wall, when they focus-tested THAT one.
The problem is, they focus-tested it to see if it would play with "journalists", who, I'm sorry to say, are gonna buy hook, line and sinker that somehow, in a primary where Obama has the lion's share of the delegates, "A win is a win".
It will be the official MSM narrative, as of about 9 p.m. Eastern, I'll bet you the farm and the firstborn. And the reality? It doesn't mean squat.
We currently have the worst "journalists" in the history of the United States of America. posted 04/22/2008 at 17:57:20
On Course For Another White Guy Election
Subsititute the word "Stupids" for the term "white male".
Thirty years ago, the Republicans determined that there was a population of Stupids who didn't follow politics, but were easily spooked by the boogey man. They decided to produce enough boogey men to form these people into a voting bloc. Nowadays, they are identified by Democratic strategists as "low information voters". But they've been a bug up the arse of America for decades, and have changed the country.
The Stupids never should have voted. You don't give the wheel of a car to blind man, and you don't give the ballot to a Stupid, who thinks that because his guy wants Jesus (Stupid version) "back" in the public schools, that he won't turn around and send your job to a nation with child labor.
But that's not "the system". All men are created blah blah, and every adult has a say. When Atwater, Segretti and Rove realized that they could pervert this lofty sentiment, and have a 30% base of manipulatable jerkoffs to sway any election, THAT'S when democracy ceased to be a viable form of government.
The Founding Fathers weren't perfect. There should have been some kind of competence test involved in the electoral process. But as it was obvious that such a test could be turned into a means of disenfranchisement that it was decided to go all-out "democratic".
And that was the AIDS virus of the American system. Someday, a Karl Rove just had to happen. posted 04/22/2008 at 13:05:51
Thirty years ago, the Republicans determined that there was a population of Stupids who didn't follow politics, but were easily spooked by the boogey man. They decided to produce enough boogey men to form these people into a voting bloc. Nowadays, they are identified by Democratic strategists as "low information voters". But they've been a bug up the arse of America for decades, and have changed the country.
The Stupids never should have voted. You don't give the wheel of a car to blind man, and you don't give the ballot to a Stupid, who thinks that because his guy wants Jesus (Stupid version) "back" in the public schools, that he won't turn around and send your job to a nation with child labor.
But that's not "the system". All men are created blah blah, and every adult has a say. When Atwater, Segretti and Rove realized that they could pervert this lofty sentiment, and have a 30% base of manipulatable jerkoffs to sway any election, THAT'S when democracy ceased to be a viable form of government.
The Founding Fathers weren't perfect. There should have been some kind of competence test involved in the electoral process. But as it was obvious that such a test could be turned into a means of disenfranchisement that it was decided to go all-out "democratic".
And that was the AIDS virus of the American system. Someday, a Karl Rove just had to happen. posted 04/22/2008 at 13:05:51
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