May 17, 2008
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Bush Lied About Giving Up Golf: Video Proof
Chris Matthews Eviscerates Right-Wing Host Kevin James Over Obama "Appeasement" Claims
"That one's off limits for some reason."
How about 900+ *documented* reasons? You know, those 900+ *documented* lies about WMDs, debunked claims of connections between Saddam Hussein and 9/11 used by the Busheviks to launch and sustain Cheney's war for oil and empire in Iraq.
I don't happen to be a 'lib," I am a Military Historian and trained researcher, and I know a rotten red herring argument when I'm presented with one. If you want to talk about WW2, its causes, the run-up to that war, it's course, and it's aftermath I'll be more than happy to accommodate you., as my family lived through that war, I've studied that conflict all of my life beginning with family stories of "those times," and I've known more than a few veterans of that war in my lifetime, from more than one side of the conflict.
Iraq is not WW2, Saddam was not Hitler (not even Mussolini), and Senator Obama is not Neville Chamberlain, and al Qaeda in Iraq is not the al Qaeda of 9/11; *those* perps were overwhelmingly *Saudis.*
Ever wonder about the family history of the man you so slavishly support:
http://www.nhgazette.com/the-bushnazi-stories/bushnazi-link-confirmed/
In light of such evidence, the Busheviks sound to this old historian more like Vikund Quisling and pals than Neville Chamberlain.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/16/2008 at 08:33:01
How about 900+ *documented* reasons? You know, those 900+ *documented* lies about WMDs, debunked claims of connections between Saddam Hussein and 9/11 used by the Busheviks to launch and sustain Cheney's war for oil and empire in Iraq.
I don't happen to be a 'lib," I am a Military Historian and trained researcher, and I know a rotten red herring argument when I'm presented with one. If you want to talk about WW2, its causes, the run-up to that war, it's course, and it's aftermath I'll be more than happy to accommodate you., as my family lived through that war, I've studied that conflict all of my life beginning with family stories of "those times," and I've known more than a few veterans of that war in my lifetime, from more than one side of the conflict.
Iraq is not WW2, Saddam was not Hitler (not even Mussolini), and Senator Obama is not Neville Chamberlain, and al Qaeda in Iraq is not the al Qaeda of 9/11; *those* perps were overwhelmingly *Saudis.*
Ever wonder about the family history of the man you so slavishly support:
http://www.nhgazette.com/the-bushnazi-stories/bushnazi-link-confirmed/
In light of such evidence, the Busheviks sound to this old historian more like Vikund Quisling and pals than Neville Chamberlain.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/16/2008 at 08:33:01
A worthy adversary? I watched Buckley get *eviscerated* by Dr. Carl Sagan on NightLine live over the subject of the nuclear arms race and Reagan's brinksmanship, as Buckley's condescending nonsense was shredded by reason, human decency, and empirical evidence.
Yes, I suspect Buckley is rolling in his grave over the pathetically corrupt, anti-intellectual, morally bankrupt incompetents that now control the GOP, but considering how morally and intellectually bankrupt corporatism wrapped in a veneer of pseudo-conservative respectability that the Reagan Revolution was in the first place, it seems IMHO that it should be no surprise that after seven and a half years of unbridled control of the halls of government, the neo-con(artists) system of governance has shown its true corporatist colours of cronyism, corruption, incompetence, and avarice unbound.
IMHO hacks like Kevin James are just the inevitable inheritors of Buckley's self-appointed aristocratic legacy.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/15/2008 at 23:52:38
Yes, I suspect Buckley is rolling in his grave over the pathetically corrupt, anti-intellectual, morally bankrupt incompetents that now control the GOP, but considering how morally and intellectually bankrupt corporatism wrapped in a veneer of pseudo-conservative respectability that the Reagan Revolution was in the first place, it seems IMHO that it should be no surprise that after seven and a half years of unbridled control of the halls of government, the neo-con(artists) system of governance has shown its true corporatist colours of cronyism, corruption, incompetence, and avarice unbound.
IMHO hacks like Kevin James are just the inevitable inheritors of Buckley's self-appointed aristocratic legacy.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/15/2008 at 23:52:38
Bush Compares Obama To Nazi Appeasers
Amazing reasoning given Chimpy's own family history:
http://www.nhgazette.com/the-bushnazi-stories/bushnazi-link-confirmed/
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/15/2008 at 10:09:27
http://www.nhgazette.com/the-bushnazi-stories/bushnazi-link-confirmed/
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/15/2008 at 10:09:27
John Edwards Endorses Obama... GOP Prospects "Worst Since Watergate"
"I'm not sure what all they had against Kerry."
Easy; Senator Kerry is in the minds of a vocal minority of Vietnam vets is a 'traitor" because he had the nerve to come to see the war for the Big Lie it was, and turn against it. A vocal minority of 'Nam vets still cling to the idea that if we just "stayed the course" and used a few nastier weapons like tactical nuclear munitions, we could have 'won" the Vietnam War.
They cling to the whole "stab in the back' mythology like a Limpet to a rock, as otherwise the cognitive dissonance of admitting that they were sent to fight an unnecessary war is too much for them to bear. Very sad, as such denial is often misconstrued by some progressives as the vet having something unpleasant, some terrible personal misdeeds to hide, when in fact it is simply the terrible realization that all they sacrificed and fought for was for naught, that they were used for no other purpose than political expediency.
That their honourable service is a separate matter IMHO, and the battles they fought in matters of whether or not they kept their honour intact when they fought, not the political agenda they were forced to serve. But I am a mere civilian who has merely studied war and soldiering for a lifetime, so my own take on these matters is moot in their eyes (to put it politely).
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/15/2008 at 09:36:20
Easy; Senator Kerry is in the minds of a vocal minority of Vietnam vets is a 'traitor" because he had the nerve to come to see the war for the Big Lie it was, and turn against it. A vocal minority of 'Nam vets still cling to the idea that if we just "stayed the course" and used a few nastier weapons like tactical nuclear munitions, we could have 'won" the Vietnam War.
They cling to the whole "stab in the back' mythology like a Limpet to a rock, as otherwise the cognitive dissonance of admitting that they were sent to fight an unnecessary war is too much for them to bear. Very sad, as such denial is often misconstrued by some progressives as the vet having something unpleasant, some terrible personal misdeeds to hide, when in fact it is simply the terrible realization that all they sacrificed and fought for was for naught, that they were used for no other purpose than political expediency.
That their honourable service is a separate matter IMHO, and the battles they fought in matters of whether or not they kept their honour intact when they fought, not the political agenda they were forced to serve. But I am a mere civilian who has merely studied war and soldiering for a lifetime, so my own take on these matters is moot in their eyes (to put it politely).
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/15/2008 at 09:36:20
Mike,
smart move, very smart move. As an *independent* fed up to the proverbial "here" with GOP corruption and hypocrisy, it's past time you Dems remembered who our real enemy of We The People and The Rule of Law enshrined in our Constitution really is.
Save the vitriol for "Hundred Years War" McCain, the willing lapdog of Charles Keating and the K Street lobbyists.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/14/2008 at 17:25:21
smart move, very smart move. As an *independent* fed up to the proverbial "here" with GOP corruption and hypocrisy, it's past time you Dems remembered who our real enemy of We The People and The Rule of Law enshrined in our Constitution really is.
Save the vitriol for "Hundred Years War" McCain, the willing lapdog of Charles Keating and the K Street lobbyists.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/14/2008 at 17:25:21
Hagee Apologizes To Catholics, But Not New Orleans
Ms. Carter,
do you have any links to news stories re: Hagee? I'd love to share such information with self-avowed supporters of "Hundred Years War" McCain...
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 16:02:32
do you have any links to news stories re: Hagee? I'd love to share such information with self-avowed supporters of "Hundred Years War" McCain...
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 16:02:32
Does this show have a website?
Be nice to see clips start showing up on YouTube...
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 16:00:10
Be nice to see clips start showing up on YouTube...
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 16:00:10
Congress: Money for War, But No Money for the Troops?
"When this election is over, service men and women and veterans will again be forgotten and vets left fighting for meager crumbs."
Not by this little citizen, Red.
We may disagree with one another and brawl like the Germans and French at Verdun here on HuffPo, but I still hold your service to our country as a thing to respect, not denigrate, dismiss, or ignore.
I will continue to cajole, harass, pester, and whatever else I can legally do in my own small way to keep the needs of our vets on the radar screens of my elected officials. More to the point, I'll continue to do what I can to see that our vets are neither ignored, nor *neglected* as they have been for far, far too long.
While you regard me as a "liberal' nutjob, I am still more or less on your side in this particular fight, whether that information makes your head explode or not.
Get used to it, old soldier; you're stuck with me. >;D
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/14/2008 at 17:36:16
Not by this little citizen, Red.
We may disagree with one another and brawl like the Germans and French at Verdun here on HuffPo, but I still hold your service to our country as a thing to respect, not denigrate, dismiss, or ignore.
I will continue to cajole, harass, pester, and whatever else I can legally do in my own small way to keep the needs of our vets on the radar screens of my elected officials. More to the point, I'll continue to do what I can to see that our vets are neither ignored, nor *neglected* as they have been for far, far too long.
While you regard me as a "liberal' nutjob, I am still more or less on your side in this particular fight, whether that information makes your head explode or not.
Get used to it, old soldier; you're stuck with me. >;D
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/14/2008 at 17:36:16
RTO,
thank you for your service to our country.
To clarify: at no time was I implying that our Military professionals are helpless dupes or victims; you know what the Hell you signed up for in the first place. That said, you go where the C-in-C sends you, where the Congress mandates you to be with a declaration of war, or the approval for the C-in-C to take protracted military action. You signed up to implement the will of We The People, and defend our interests, including those defined by the C-in-C and/or Congress as matters of national security, etc.
As a civilian, I can only *try* and imagine what it must be like to be on the sharp end of things. But as a taxpayer, it is IMHO my duty to keep the heat on the feet of my elected representatives to see that not only do you and your fellow soldiers, marines, airmen, and sailors have everything you need when you're "Over There," but also what you need when your *back here,* and *without* a bureaucratic runaround.
Respectfully,
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 21:10:11
thank you for your service to our country.
To clarify: at no time was I implying that our Military professionals are helpless dupes or victims; you know what the Hell you signed up for in the first place. That said, you go where the C-in-C sends you, where the Congress mandates you to be with a declaration of war, or the approval for the C-in-C to take protracted military action. You signed up to implement the will of We The People, and defend our interests, including those defined by the C-in-C and/or Congress as matters of national security, etc.
As a civilian, I can only *try* and imagine what it must be like to be on the sharp end of things. But as a taxpayer, it is IMHO my duty to keep the heat on the feet of my elected representatives to see that not only do you and your fellow soldiers, marines, airmen, and sailors have everything you need when you're "Over There," but also what you need when your *back here,* and *without* a bureaucratic runaround.
Respectfully,
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 21:10:11
PART II
The soldier is at the end of the day at the mercy of We The People, whom they signed up to defend. The soldier depends upon We The People through our elected representatives to choose our conflicts wisely, and not spend their lives foolishly. They also depend upon We The People to look after their needs if they are wounded in battle, and especially if they are left crippled and need lifelong medical care and if possible, vocational retraining to lead some sort of meaningful life after they are discharged.
The original GI Bill enabled my family to rise above the level of impoverished laborers to the middle class after the war. IMHO it is an absolute moral imperative that We The People take care of our own, especially if they have served our country in uniform honourably, having sacrificed their time, freedoms, and even health and lives so that We The People don't have to do the same.
This is not a mere "entitlement" as Representative Tanner so despicably characterizes matters, but an irrefutable obligation of We The People towards Those Who Serve. It is as simple as that.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 18:54:32
The soldier is at the end of the day at the mercy of We The People, whom they signed up to defend. The soldier depends upon We The People through our elected representatives to choose our conflicts wisely, and not spend their lives foolishly. They also depend upon We The People to look after their needs if they are wounded in battle, and especially if they are left crippled and need lifelong medical care and if possible, vocational retraining to lead some sort of meaningful life after they are discharged.
The original GI Bill enabled my family to rise above the level of impoverished laborers to the middle class after the war. IMHO it is an absolute moral imperative that We The People take care of our own, especially if they have served our country in uniform honourably, having sacrificed their time, freedoms, and even health and lives so that We The People don't have to do the same.
This is not a mere "entitlement" as Representative Tanner so despicably characterizes matters, but an irrefutable obligation of We The People towards Those Who Serve. It is as simple as that.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 18:54:32
This entire situation makes me sick, especially as the son of a WW2 US Marine. Two of my Dad's brothers also served during WW2 in uniform, one as a flight instructor in the USAAC, and the other as a combat forward observer in General George S. Patton, Jr.'s 3rd Army in the ETO. Our family has included quite a few who have served in more than one conflict, and my circle of friends, acquaintances, and professional colleagues has and still does include many a vet, and many an active duty member of the Armed Forces.
One thing I've learned from studying war and soldiering since childhood starting with family tales of 'those times," is that when a recruit signs on the dotted line, they sign away every right they ever had. They do not get to choose where they are sent, where they will fight, or what they'll be fighting for. All of those decisions are taken away from them, along with whom they will associate, what they can say, how they may say it, and what they will eat.
END PART I posted 05/13/2008 at 18:54:19
One thing I've learned from studying war and soldiering since childhood starting with family tales of 'those times," is that when a recruit signs on the dotted line, they sign away every right they ever had. They do not get to choose where they are sent, where they will fight, or what they'll be fighting for. All of those decisions are taken away from them, along with whom they will associate, what they can say, how they may say it, and what they will eat.
END PART I posted 05/13/2008 at 18:54:19
The Bipartisanship Scam
"The road to victory in 2008 doesn't run through a mythical middle that has been dragged far to the right over the past 7-plus years; it runs through the actual mainstream -- the place the majority of Americans inhabit. The center that opposes the war, favors economic fairness, knows that climate change is real and a crisis, wants to take care of our veterans, and believes in the right to universal health care."
Ms. Huffington,
as they said in the Roman Legion when the oath of service was administered,
"AND THE SAME FOR ME!"
The quack right corporatists who have hijacked our government and run roughshod over the Rule of Law these past seven and a half years from Hell need to be run out of office on a rail and deposited enmasse and unceremoniously into a jail cell there to await trial.
Past time for We The People to take our government back.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 18:50:20
Ms. Huffington,
as they said in the Roman Legion when the oath of service was administered,
"AND THE SAME FOR ME!"
The quack right corporatists who have hijacked our government and run roughshod over the Rule of Law these past seven and a half years from Hell need to be run out of office on a rail and deposited enmasse and unceremoniously into a jail cell there to await trial.
Past time for We The People to take our government back.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 18:50:20
A Fairytale Wedding, If Your Idea Of Magic Is The Sweltering Texas Desert
Here's one for the McCain fans:
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/051308R.shtml
Reach your own conclusions.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/14/2008 at 13:20:21
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/051308R.shtml
Reach your own conclusions.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/14/2008 at 13:20:21
PART II
As for the city and state governments, they could have done more, but at the end of the day FEMA still takes the lion's share under "Heckuvajob" Brownie, as disaster preparedness and emergency evac and relief is their purview, and their mandate under the law. This is the case because during a disaster of such magnitude local resources will prove insufficient to say the least, and state and federal resources are essential, especially in so densely populated an urban area.
New Orleans continues to be left to rot, as our country continues to waste billions of taxpayer dollars on the debacle in Iraq. I fail to see how this serves any sort of national interests of ours, nor do I see anything remotely *Christian* in the continued and clearly deliberate neglect of an entire population.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 18:37:16
As for the city and state governments, they could have done more, but at the end of the day FEMA still takes the lion's share under "Heckuvajob" Brownie, as disaster preparedness and emergency evac and relief is their purview, and their mandate under the law. This is the case because during a disaster of such magnitude local resources will prove insufficient to say the least, and state and federal resources are essential, especially in so densely populated an urban area.
New Orleans continues to be left to rot, as our country continues to waste billions of taxpayer dollars on the debacle in Iraq. I fail to see how this serves any sort of national interests of ours, nor do I see anything remotely *Christian* in the continued and clearly deliberate neglect of an entire population.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 18:37:16
"They had no desire to rebuild their OWN community they were sitting around waiting on someone to do it for them."
Impoverish a population. Deny them basic civil rights for generations. Educate them to believe they are inferior for no other reason than the colour of their skin. Deny them decent housing, education, medical care, and above all employment opportunities. Feed them nothing but despair for *generations.*
Do all this long enough and consistently enough and I guarantee you that you'll breed despair, hopelessness, resentment, and above all destroy motivation and instill a sullen sense of entitlement for countless generations of past wrongs, like breeding germs in a Petri dish filled with feces.
Speaking of which, fecal smearing is a common behavior of the mentally ill, specifically Paranoid Schizophrenics. One can only wonder how many homeless mentally ill, drug users, petty criminals who escaped custody during Katrina, and felons mixed in with the evacuees.
END PART I posted 05/13/2008 at 18:37:01
Impoverish a population. Deny them basic civil rights for generations. Educate them to believe they are inferior for no other reason than the colour of their skin. Deny them decent housing, education, medical care, and above all employment opportunities. Feed them nothing but despair for *generations.*
Do all this long enough and consistently enough and I guarantee you that you'll breed despair, hopelessness, resentment, and above all destroy motivation and instill a sullen sense of entitlement for countless generations of past wrongs, like breeding germs in a Petri dish filled with feces.
Speaking of which, fecal smearing is a common behavior of the mentally ill, specifically Paranoid Schizophrenics. One can only wonder how many homeless mentally ill, drug users, petty criminals who escaped custody during Katrina, and felons mixed in with the evacuees.
END PART I posted 05/13/2008 at 18:37:01
Here's another one for you, Red:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-rieckhoff/congress-money-for-war-bu_b_101435.html
You should like this one; you get to bash some *Dinocrats.*
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 15:51:49
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-rieckhoff/congress-money-for-war-bu_b_101435.html
You should like this one; you get to bash some *Dinocrats.*
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 15:51:49
Here's one fro you, Red. Why aren't you commenting with your usual wit and verve on this particular story? I mean, there's three (3) Dinocrats for you to get after for not supporting our troops:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-rieckhoff/congress-money-for-war-bu_b_101435.html
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 15:50:46
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-rieckhoff/congress-money-for-war-bu_b_101435.html
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 15:50:46
Red, while yer at it, share this story with your friends as well:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/13/pentagon-media-analysts-a_n_101521.html
Fascinating, no?
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 15:31:38
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/13/pentagon-media-analysts-a_n_101521.html
Fascinating, no?
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 15:31:38
"Neither is necessary, though both are nice. Beer, on the other hand, is absolutely essential."
Texvol,
you are wise.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 15:25:17
Texvol,
you are wise.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 15:25:17
" McCain walks the walk, he doesn't just give glorified pep talks like Obama."
McCain can't tell a Sunni from a Shiite, and never met a K Street lobbyist he didn't like, *really* like. Just ask Charles Keating and Vicky Isemann.
Whatever McCain did during his stay at the Hanoi Hilton over 35 years ago has nothing to do with what he's done since, especially since getting caught taking "contributions" from Charles Keating. His slavish partisan devotion to the thoroughly discredited "Greedy Old Perverts" speaks more about how well he really "walks the walk" than anything else, including his willingness to keep our troops in a war launched and sustained by over 900+ *documented* lies about WMDs and debunked claims of connections between Saddam Hussein and 9/11.
Sorry, Jen, but this old fisherman and independent voter just won't swallow the bait the "Greedy Old Perverts" and "Hundred years War" McCain are dangling in my face. I know a red herring when I see one so obvious and rotten.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 15:21:30
McCain can't tell a Sunni from a Shiite, and never met a K Street lobbyist he didn't like, *really* like. Just ask Charles Keating and Vicky Isemann.
Whatever McCain did during his stay at the Hanoi Hilton over 35 years ago has nothing to do with what he's done since, especially since getting caught taking "contributions" from Charles Keating. His slavish partisan devotion to the thoroughly discredited "Greedy Old Perverts" speaks more about how well he really "walks the walk" than anything else, including his willingness to keep our troops in a war launched and sustained by over 900+ *documented* lies about WMDs and debunked claims of connections between Saddam Hussein and 9/11.
Sorry, Jen, but this old fisherman and independent voter just won't swallow the bait the "Greedy Old Perverts" and "Hundred years War" McCain are dangling in my face. I know a red herring when I see one so obvious and rotten.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 15:21:30
This is a good thing, Red; your Democratic friends can come and read just how hypocritical partisans of the neo-con GOP really are, from "family values" to Cheney's war for oil and empire in Iraq and the 900+ *documented* lies thereof spewed by Tony Snowjob and Dana Perino at the behest of their GOP masters, to the foreclosure epidemic, healthcare denied to deserving vets as an apparent matter of official VA policy, McCain's habitual cozying up with Charles Keating and the K Street lobbyists, the malfeasance of NCLB, the running roughshod over the rule of law by the Busheviks and their corporate cronies, ad infinite nauseum.
So are you sure you want to "spread the word," Red?
Might not work out quite like you intend.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 15:14:53
So are you sure you want to "spread the word," Red?
Might not work out quite like you intend.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 15:14:53
Hey Red, while you're at it, why not share this bit of GOP party performance record history with your friends:
http://www.armchairsubversive.org
Real "family values" party you're defending *still.* Guess you just can't wait for "Hundred Years War" McCain to take another "contribution" from his pal Charles Keating and the K Street gang, never mind McCain can't tell a Sunni from a Shiite, and votes against every bit of legislation designed to help vets.
Sauce for the goose, Red.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 15:08:30
http://www.armchairsubversive.org
Real "family values" party you're defending *still.* Guess you just can't wait for "Hundred Years War" McCain to take another "contribution" from his pal Charles Keating and the K Street gang, never mind McCain can't tell a Sunni from a Shiite, and votes against every bit of legislation designed to help vets.
Sauce for the goose, Red.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 15:08:30
"I initially voted for Obama in the primary."
How big was that fish? With a fly line?
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 15:04:10
How big was that fish? With a fly line?
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 15:04:10
Try registering as an *independent.* It's quite liberating, really...
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 15:03:20
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 15:03:20
"At this point I'd be so much more proud to be a Republican than a hate-consumed Democrat. "
Are you proud of this:
http://www.armchairsubversive.org
proud of your vaunted GOP's actual performance record as the self-proclaimed "party of family values?"
How about proud of your party's President launching and sustaining a war for oil and empire based upon over 900+ *documented* lies about WMDs and debunked claims of connections between Saddam Hussein and 9/11?
Has your mortgage reset yet? How's your healthcare?
Jen, cut the guff, you never doubted you were voting for "Hundred years War" McCain, the happily bought lapdog of Charles Keating who can't tell a Sunni from a Shiite.
Legitimate, righteous anger is not hatred, but anger arrived at legitimately, fueled and ignited by seven and a half years of the most demonstrably corrupt administration in our nation's history. Not since Boss Tweed has American government seen such corrupt cronyism and venality.
For the record, I don't wish ill upon Bush, but justice for the countless thousands who lives his policies have ended, for the lives his policies have ruined with his bloody self-serving misadventure in Iraq, his grotesque ineptitude which has left one of America's great cities devastated after Hurricane Katrina, for the lives of American families his policies and his incompetence have left jobless, without healthcare, and without a home.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 15:00:33
Are you proud of this:
http://www.armchairsubversive.org
proud of your vaunted GOP's actual performance record as the self-proclaimed "party of family values?"
How about proud of your party's President launching and sustaining a war for oil and empire based upon over 900+ *documented* lies about WMDs and debunked claims of connections between Saddam Hussein and 9/11?
Has your mortgage reset yet? How's your healthcare?
Jen, cut the guff, you never doubted you were voting for "Hundred years War" McCain, the happily bought lapdog of Charles Keating who can't tell a Sunni from a Shiite.
Legitimate, righteous anger is not hatred, but anger arrived at legitimately, fueled and ignited by seven and a half years of the most demonstrably corrupt administration in our nation's history. Not since Boss Tweed has American government seen such corrupt cronyism and venality.
For the record, I don't wish ill upon Bush, but justice for the countless thousands who lives his policies have ended, for the lives his policies have ruined with his bloody self-serving misadventure in Iraq, his grotesque ineptitude which has left one of America's great cities devastated after Hurricane Katrina, for the lives of American families his policies and his incompetence have left jobless, without healthcare, and without a home.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 15:00:33
PART II
I can connect better with a "liberal" Dinocrat better than a "Greedy Old Pervert" because the Dinocrat won't look down their snoot at other people because of the colour of their skin, their orientation, or their religion, while the "Greedy Old Pervert" will smile to your face, then do everything in their power to make sure that meaningful jobs only go to their cronies and their offspring.
I can connect better to a "liberal" Dinocrat than a "Greedy Old Pervert" for the simple reason that while the Dinocrats are merely annoying trying not to offend *anyone,* the "Greedy Old Pervert" in office is typically a raging hypocrite who will spew platitudes and the name of God and 'family values" to your face, all the while accepting the "contributions" of K Street lobbyists like Jack Abramhoff, and voting for policies and laws that benefit a hyper-wealthy few, to the detriment of the many, including *independent* middle class law-abiding taxpayers like me.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 10:17:15
I can connect better with a "liberal" Dinocrat better than a "Greedy Old Pervert" because the Dinocrat won't look down their snoot at other people because of the colour of their skin, their orientation, or their religion, while the "Greedy Old Pervert" will smile to your face, then do everything in their power to make sure that meaningful jobs only go to their cronies and their offspring.
I can connect better to a "liberal" Dinocrat than a "Greedy Old Pervert" for the simple reason that while the Dinocrats are merely annoying trying not to offend *anyone,* the "Greedy Old Pervert" in office is typically a raging hypocrite who will spew platitudes and the name of God and 'family values" to your face, all the while accepting the "contributions" of K Street lobbyists like Jack Abramhoff, and voting for policies and laws that benefit a hyper-wealthy few, to the detriment of the many, including *independent* middle class law-abiding taxpayers like me.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 10:17:15
I'm a middle class workin' stiff. I connect better with a "liberal" Dinocrat than I do with a "Greedy Old Perverts" partisan six ways to Sunday. Why? because the latte-sipper is more likely to value education -real education rather than NCLB boondoggling like the GOP- for my children, rather than merely paying lip-service while spewing anti-intellectualist rhetoric in the name of God.
I can connect better with a "liberal" Dinocrat because they believe in the Rule of Law, while the "Greedy Old Pervert" thinks that there should be two sets of laws, one for them and their corporate Pharisee cronies, and another for everyone else.
END PART I posted 05/13/2008 at 10:17:04
I can connect better with a "liberal" Dinocrat because they believe in the Rule of Law, while the "Greedy Old Pervert" thinks that there should be two sets of laws, one for them and their corporate Pharisee cronies, and another for everyone else.
END PART I posted 05/13/2008 at 10:17:04
PART II
"Boy, you Dems really have a lot of contempt for small towns, don't you? That's one reason I'm no longer a Dem. You must be a Obama supporter."
So Julie, are you implying that anyone who refers to one (1) small town in Texas in such a fashion is automatically a *Democrat* and *Obama supporter?* Or are Republicans incapable of such snobbery?
" Unfortunately, the Democratic Party, which used to represent the common man in small towns and big cities alike, has a disturbingly large latte-drinking snob wing."
As opposed to the Jack Daniels good ole boys club robber barons wing of the GOP that has been clearly running the party for 28 years now (if not longer). Seems to me based upon actual performance records that the latte-drinkers have demonstrated more solidarity through their voting and policy records with the small town common folk that the champions of corporatism in the GOP's JD wing leadership.
I am also a denizen of the Lone Star State BTW, and an *independent* issues voter.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 09:04:04
"Boy, you Dems really have a lot of contempt for small towns, don't you? That's one reason I'm no longer a Dem. You must be a Obama supporter."
So Julie, are you implying that anyone who refers to one (1) small town in Texas in such a fashion is automatically a *Democrat* and *Obama supporter?* Or are Republicans incapable of such snobbery?
" Unfortunately, the Democratic Party, which used to represent the common man in small towns and big cities alike, has a disturbingly large latte-drinking snob wing."
As opposed to the Jack Daniels good ole boys club robber barons wing of the GOP that has been clearly running the party for 28 years now (if not longer). Seems to me based upon actual performance records that the latte-drinkers have demonstrated more solidarity through their voting and policy records with the small town common folk that the champions of corporatism in the GOP's JD wing leadership.
I am also a denizen of the Lone Star State BTW, and an *independent* issues voter.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 09:04:04
"As for your link, please quote back to me where I have ever defended pedophilia?"
Never once, and we both know it; my point is, has always been, that you defend the institution that has clearly been *enabling* this situation akin to the Catholic hierarchy through the usual means of sweeping such matters under the media rug, rather than addressing them honestly.
Instead, your vaunted GOP continues to insist that they and they alone are the "party of family values."
" And are you seriously trying to imply that all pedophiles are Republicans?"
Straw man argument there, Julie. See my remarks above.
END PART I posted 05/13/2008 at 09:03:44
Never once, and we both know it; my point is, has always been, that you defend the institution that has clearly been *enabling* this situation akin to the Catholic hierarchy through the usual means of sweeping such matters under the media rug, rather than addressing them honestly.
Instead, your vaunted GOP continues to insist that they and they alone are the "party of family values."
" And are you seriously trying to imply that all pedophiles are Republicans?"
Straw man argument there, Julie. See my remarks above.
END PART I posted 05/13/2008 at 09:03:44
Julie*Sturm*Abteilung,
The poster is a *Texan,* and IMHO would have a better handle on whether or not a particular town in the Lone Star State was a backwater or not. That does not indicate whether or not they have "...a lot of contempt for small towns."
You need help, especially in ligt of your tireless defense of the "party of family values:"
http://www.armchairsubversive.org
Real "family values" bunch you keep stickin' up for, Julie. "Family values only David Koresh would recognize, "family values" worthy of Caligula or the locals in THE HILLS HAVE EYES.
Yeeach.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 22:56:40
The poster is a *Texan,* and IMHO would have a better handle on whether or not a particular town in the Lone Star State was a backwater or not. That does not indicate whether or not they have "...a lot of contempt for small towns."
You need help, especially in ligt of your tireless defense of the "party of family values:"
http://www.armchairsubversive.org
Real "family values" bunch you keep stickin' up for, Julie. "Family values only David Koresh would recognize, "family values" worthy of Caligula or the locals in THE HILLS HAVE EYES.
Yeeach.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 22:56:40
Young Evangelicals Abandoning GOP Over Iraq, Economy
"I would have no problem pulling the trigger on terrorists or supporters of terrorists, but I would prefer not killing innocent people collaterally. Unfortunately, war is impossibly brutal."
Cool. When you signing up for the US Marines, Rip? My Dad did right after Pearl Harbour; what's your excuse? Maybe while yer at it, you could persuade Mitt Romney's boys to join you, seeing how all of you appear to believe that the Rapture is just around the corner, and Cheney's bid for oil and empire in Iraq is a holy crusade against the jihadists.
Well, whatcha waitin' for, son?
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/14/2008 at 14:44:53
Cool. When you signing up for the US Marines, Rip? My Dad did right after Pearl Harbour; what's your excuse? Maybe while yer at it, you could persuade Mitt Romney's boys to join you, seeing how all of you appear to believe that the Rapture is just around the corner, and Cheney's bid for oil and empire in Iraq is a holy crusade against the jihadists.
Well, whatcha waitin' for, son?
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/14/2008 at 14:44:53
"Redrover is right. Barbara has no brain, but she does have an ax to grind since she is self conscious about her irreconcilable beliefs."
And Ripped has only Freudian Projection Behavior, a condition endemic to the authoritarian-minded.
Rip, you are predictable.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/14/2008 at 14:41:27
And Ripped has only Freudian Projection Behavior, a condition endemic to the authoritarian-minded.
Rip, you are predictable.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/14/2008 at 14:41:27
"I have accepted that 30-40% of the Muslims in the Middle East have said in polls that they believe that the entire world must convert to Islam and that force is acceptable in making this happen. Similar numbers have said in polls that moderate Muslims who do not support Islamic Fundamentalism may face death. "
Which means as many as 60-70% do not agree with this. Sounds about right.
Rep, that you believe in American hegemony over the world's resources is transparently evident, all of your religious and anti-abortion rhetoric being merely a facade to drape over your willful support of naked aggression and conquest.
I'm a Military Historian, Rip, and I've heard this music before:
"Gott mit uns!"
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/14/2008 at 14:34:54
Which means as many as 60-70% do not agree with this. Sounds about right.
Rep, that you believe in American hegemony over the world's resources is transparently evident, all of your religious and anti-abortion rhetoric being merely a facade to drape over your willful support of naked aggression and conquest.
I'm a Military Historian, Rip, and I've heard this music before:
"Gott mit uns!"
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/14/2008 at 14:34:54
"I would think you might be interested in moving to San Fransisco where they believe in nothing."
When's the last time you actually visited SF and interacted with the locals?
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/14/2008 at 14:26:35
When's the last time you actually visited SF and interacted with the locals?
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/14/2008 at 14:26:35
"Statistically, Democrats are wealthier and more educated than Republicans.
How does that equate to the party of greed and elitism?"
Care to quote your source(s) for this?
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/14/2008 at 14:25:05
How does that equate to the party of greed and elitism?"
Care to quote your source(s) for this?
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/14/2008 at 14:25:05
"That is self-defense and it is permissible by God. Have you ever been attacked by an unborn baby from inside of its sexually active teenage mother???"
A falsehood and a red herring all in one go, Rip. A defenseless child killed in a war launched and sustained by over 900+ *documented* lies about WMDs and debunked claims of connections between Saddam Hussein and 9/11, is not an act of self defense. I've seen what modern weapons do to the human body, Rip, including children -yes, Iraqi children- and it is no joke, no Hollywood special effects wizardry.
And don't call it Christian, Rip. Jesus never sanctioned *war.*
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 21:43:55
A falsehood and a red herring all in one go, Rip. A defenseless child killed in a war launched and sustained by over 900+ *documented* lies about WMDs and debunked claims of connections between Saddam Hussein and 9/11, is not an act of self defense. I've seen what modern weapons do to the human body, Rip, including children -yes, Iraqi children- and it is no joke, no Hollywood special effects wizardry.
And don't call it Christian, Rip. Jesus never sanctioned *war.*
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 21:43:55
Major Kong,
has "Ripped" been eating *shellfish* again? Doesn't that mean I get to stone "Rippy" if he walks into a church? >;D
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 21:22:42
has "Ripped" been eating *shellfish* again? Doesn't that mean I get to stone "Rippy" if he walks into a church? >;D
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 21:22:42
"Face it Blackwidowpilot, the only Christians you can tolerate are "Christians" who don't read the Bible and are liberal democrats who aren't really Christians but only pretend to be."
"Thou shalt not bear false witness."
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 21:20:11
"Thou shalt not bear false witness."
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 21:20:11
Wrong answer, Rippy. What you've now presented is a straw man argument.
Christian is in my experience as Christian does. Or did you skip the part about The Good Samaritan?
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 19:29:22
Christian is in my experience as Christian does. Or did you skip the part about The Good Samaritan?
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 19:29:22
Rippinyarn, did you know that back during the 20th century a group of Black men were deliberately left infected with Syphillis just to study the long-term effects of the disease if left untreated? Government study BTW...
The whole AIDS as a bio-weapon story may not be true, but the Back community has over 200 years of historical reasons *not* to trust the government, much as Native Americans have good historical reasons to be suspicious of such things.
Best to put Wright's hyperbole in context, and take it with a healthy grain of salt IMHO.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 19:23:50
The whole AIDS as a bio-weapon story may not be true, but the Back community has over 200 years of historical reasons *not* to trust the government, much as Native Americans have good historical reasons to be suspicious of such things.
Best to put Wright's hyperbole in context, and take it with a healthy grain of salt IMHO.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 19:23:50
"Is that why Ahdminejad said that the hidden Iman would not return until Israel was destroyed???"
Ahdminejad is a quack, as are all such fundamentalist grandstanding quacks.
"Did you know that the hidden Iman is supposed to enforce Islam worldwide??"
My degree minor is Religious Studies. I answer to a professional superior who is a Near Eastern Studies expert. Lets just say I know a bit more than the average bear about the jihadists and their actual abilities, their heretical dogmas, and other matters such as force projection, logistics, ad nauseum.
"It is laughable that people are that ignorant regarding a movement that poses so much danger to their way of life."
It is truly sad that people are willing to let fear spawned by ignorance master their reason, and let the fearmongering manipulate their voting habits.
"Do people really think that the US is that indestructible???"
No.
"Try watching some translated radical Muslim sermons. Their focus is converting all non-believers. They could give a rat's patooty about the West wanting stability and better living conditions in the ME."
Just watch some fundamentalist dominionist heretical Christian sermons; they're saying the same things; they just want the "Rapture," and they want it NOW.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 19:19:53
Ahdminejad is a quack, as are all such fundamentalist grandstanding quacks.
"Did you know that the hidden Iman is supposed to enforce Islam worldwide??"
My degree minor is Religious Studies. I answer to a professional superior who is a Near Eastern Studies expert. Lets just say I know a bit more than the average bear about the jihadists and their actual abilities, their heretical dogmas, and other matters such as force projection, logistics, ad nauseum.
"It is laughable that people are that ignorant regarding a movement that poses so much danger to their way of life."
It is truly sad that people are willing to let fear spawned by ignorance master their reason, and let the fearmongering manipulate their voting habits.
"Do people really think that the US is that indestructible???"
No.
"Try watching some translated radical Muslim sermons. Their focus is converting all non-believers. They could give a rat's patooty about the West wanting stability and better living conditions in the ME."
Just watch some fundamentalist dominionist heretical Christian sermons; they're saying the same things; they just want the "Rapture," and they want it NOW.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 19:19:53
"Compassion: Have you read these posts? Have you not seen liberal students on the news attacking a conservative speaker they invited? It's not rare. Or how about disrupting catholic church services dressed up as transvestite nuns."
Compassion, as opposed to the bigotry still practiced by Catholic officialdom against gays?
"Hatred: Have you heard of a guy named Rev. Wright? Read these posts. Most of them are dripping with hatred."
How about the bigotry of Hagee, Parsley, Falwell, Swaggert, Roberts, ad infinite televangelical nauseum?
"Obedience and Justice: Shame on those conservatives for believing in the rule of law!"
How about those "conservatives" who do not, such as McCain who took 'contributions" from Charles Keating, or Mark Foley, Larry Craig, or these "conservatives" who stood for "family values:"
http://www.armchairsubversive.org
"Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel." The GOP of today seems to have an overabundance of such "patriots."
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 19:13:28
Compassion, as opposed to the bigotry still practiced by Catholic officialdom against gays?
"Hatred: Have you heard of a guy named Rev. Wright? Read these posts. Most of them are dripping with hatred."
How about the bigotry of Hagee, Parsley, Falwell, Swaggert, Roberts, ad infinite televangelical nauseum?
"Obedience and Justice: Shame on those conservatives for believing in the rule of law!"
How about those "conservatives" who do not, such as McCain who took 'contributions" from Charles Keating, or Mark Foley, Larry Craig, or these "conservatives" who stood for "family values:"
http://www.armchairsubversive.org
"Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel." The GOP of today seems to have an overabundance of such "patriots."
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 19:13:28
WW2 was started by *fascists,* Red. Vietnam was an insurgency of native Vietnamese against their French colonial rulers that was easily usurped by Ho Chi Minh and his later Maoist ideology thanks to French pigheadedness and US failure to support Ho's pre-war efforts to make Vietnam a unified socialist democracy thanks to FDR's refusal to support his bid for independence from France, as FDR didn't want to upset the Free French under De Gaulle during WW2.
Korea was started by the North Korean communists, again, *not* "liberals."
Where *did* you learn your Military History and Political Science, Red?
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 19:09:00
Korea was started by the North Korean communists, again, *not* "liberals."
Where *did* you learn your Military History and Political Science, Red?
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 19:09:00
I used to professionally interact with the mentally ill for over a decade, Rippinyarn and a common denominator was that many a Schizophrenic was well versed -even encyclopedic in their knowledge- in the contents of the Bible.
Their interpretations of its contents however, were another matter entirely...
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 19:03:03
Their interpretations of its contents however, were another matter entirely...
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 19:03:03
Who's got the bigger - and most numerous- hypocrite(s):
http://www.armchairsubversive.org
This independent will trust the family values of a Democratic candidate before I'll ever trust the "party of family values" for a very long time. "Family values" like the locals in THE HILLS HAVE EYES.
Hypocrisy? The "Greedy Old Perverts" have been shoving their hypocrisy on this subject alone for over 28 years now, never mind everything else they've put their sticky fingers to.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 16:29:07
http://www.armchairsubversive.org
This independent will trust the family values of a Democratic candidate before I'll ever trust the "party of family values" for a very long time. "Family values" like the locals in THE HILLS HAVE EYES.
Hypocrisy? The "Greedy Old Perverts" have been shoving their hypocrisy on this subject alone for over 28 years now, never mind everything else they've put their sticky fingers to.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 16:29:07
Hagee's "apology' wasn't any such thing, and you know it.
And "Hundred years War' McCain can't tell a Sunni from a Shiite, and never met a K Street lobbyist he didn't like (Charles Keating), or *really* like a whole heckuva lot (Vicky Isemann).
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 16:26:13
And "Hundred years War' McCain can't tell a Sunni from a Shiite, and never met a K Street lobbyist he didn't like (Charles Keating), or *really* like a whole heckuva lot (Vicky Isemann).
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 16:26:13
OK hin, I'll bite; just what is it about this that so worries you? What *precisely* do you think Senator Obama will actually do if elected President?
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 16:24:47
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 16:24:47
Red herring argument, Rippinlogic. It is the presence of US troops that inflames the passions of the jihadists, not the other way round.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 16:23:44
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 16:23:44
hin,
justifies? No. *Explains? A great deal, yes.
Now take a break from your fixation with Wright and spend some quality time going after "Hundred Years War" McCain's spiritual advisor Hagee.
IMHO Hagee is ore than deserving of your attentions...
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 16:09:57
justifies? No. *Explains? A great deal, yes.
Now take a break from your fixation with Wright and spend some quality time going after "Hundred Years War" McCain's spiritual advisor Hagee.
IMHO Hagee is ore than deserving of your attentions...
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 16:09:57
"Citizen: I don't like Hagee, either."
Then take a break from your fixation and go after Hagee; IMHO he is far more deserving of such attention than Wright.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 16:07:32
Then take a break from your fixation and go after Hagee; IMHO he is far more deserving of such attention than Wright.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 16:07:32
hinnis is clearly a xenophobe with a political axe to grind. He is to be pitied.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 10:40:11
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 10:40:11
"The fact that there may be other pastors and other theologies which might also be racist and divisive, does not reduce or eliminate the concern which reasonable people may have about black liberation theology."
You straw man arguments prove that you are anything but reasonable, hinnis.
Your xenophobia has trumped your reason IMHO.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 10:38:39
You straw man arguments prove that you are anything but reasonable, hinnis.
Your xenophobia has trumped your reason IMHO.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 10:38:39
Really? Then does that mean that the following actual performance record of the GOP on "family values" means if one supports the GOP and Senator McCain, one supports pedophiles:
http://www.armchairsubversive.org
Real family values bunch, those GOP partisans...
Hinnis, you are clearly obsessed solely with bashing Senator Obama, smearing him as a religious crank while ignoring the venal, corruption and hypocrisy of the party of modern day Pharisees he opposes, and the bought lapdog of Charles Keating he'll apparently be running against in November.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 10:36:35
http://www.armchairsubversive.org
Real family values bunch, those GOP partisans...
Hinnis, you are clearly obsessed solely with bashing Senator Obama, smearing him as a religious crank while ignoring the venal, corruption and hypocrisy of the party of modern day Pharisees he opposes, and the bought lapdog of Charles Keating he'll apparently be running against in November.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 10:36:35
Don't you dare! I am the commissar here, and I say we stand our ground and fight the fascist capitalist running dogs and burrowing squirrels like good heroes of the revolution of the proletariat!
So there.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 10:28:14
So there.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 10:28:14
"Leland: Since you could not produce any of my statements which were racist, please consider your apology accepted."
That you cannot grasp your own inherent bigotry towards the Senator is transparently obvious to *Ray Charles* (ie., a deceased blind man).
Hubris indeed, and self-deluded in your crusade against "Black Liberation Theology."
I pity you as I pity all such lost souls.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 10:24:55
That you cannot grasp your own inherent bigotry towards the Senator is transparently obvious to *Ray Charles* (ie., a deceased blind man).
Hubris indeed, and self-deluded in your crusade against "Black Liberation Theology."
I pity you as I pity all such lost souls.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/13/2008 at 10:24:55
"BlackWidow: Please post any statement I have made which you consider to be racist. If you cannot, then consider your apology accepted in advance."
Hinnis,
Freudian Projection Behavior does not a cogent argument make.
Don't hold your breath for that apology, lest you suffocate from your own hubris.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 23:55:50
Hinnis,
Freudian Projection Behavior does not a cogent argument make.
Don't hold your breath for that apology, lest you suffocate from your own hubris.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 23:55:50
Why, hinnis, isn't it obvious? You're so intent upon proving Senator Obama a religious heretic, yet you are willing to ignore the overwhelming hypocrisy and heresies of the self-appointed "party of family values" Senator Obama opposes, including the darling of the GOP, Senator "Hundred Years War" McCain, who so slavishly sought the endorsement of the heretical dominionist televangelist Hagee.
So I ask again, how is Senator Obama *worse* than the actual performance record of his GOP opponents, especially the performance record of partisans of the GOP from local party bosses to members of Congress:
http://www.armchairsubversive.org
The GOP has been shoving down America's throat for the past 28 years how they and they alone are the party of God and "family values."
From where this independent voter is sitting they are hypocrites and lying scoundrels worthy of Boss Tweed or Caligula.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 23:52:54
So I ask again, how is Senator Obama *worse* than the actual performance record of his GOP opponents, especially the performance record of partisans of the GOP from local party bosses to members of Congress:
http://www.armchairsubversive.org
The GOP has been shoving down America's throat for the past 28 years how they and they alone are the party of God and "family values."
From where this independent voter is sitting they are hypocrites and lying scoundrels worthy of Boss Tweed or Caligula.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 23:52:54
Jesus also admonished:
"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, than it is for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of Heaven."
"Woe unto the rich, woe unto the rich, for I say unto you, they have their reward."
"Be thou not as the hypocrites, who love to pray on the street corers and in the synagogues, that they may be seen by men, for I say unto you, they have their reward."
Seems to me that the McCains, Hagees, and Parsleys of the world, the vocal partisans of the "party of family values" would heed these warnings if they were indeed true believers in the message of Our Lord and Savior.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 23:47:20
"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, than it is for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of Heaven."
"Woe unto the rich, woe unto the rich, for I say unto you, they have their reward."
"Be thou not as the hypocrites, who love to pray on the street corers and in the synagogues, that they may be seen by men, for I say unto you, they have their reward."
Seems to me that the McCains, Hagees, and Parsleys of the world, the vocal partisans of the "party of family values" would heed these warnings if they were indeed true believers in the message of Our Lord and Savior.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 23:47:20
" God is love, but he is also just and righteous."
Yes, and Dominionist heretics and Pharisees of the GOP best take heed, as they continue to wrap their corruption, greed, and depravity in a veneer of patriotism and pseudo-Christian propaganda.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 23:32:24
Yes, and Dominionist heretics and Pharisees of the GOP best take heed, as they continue to wrap their corruption, greed, and depravity in a veneer of patriotism and pseudo-Christian propaganda.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 23:32:24
Hin,
again, what say you to the performance record of the self-proclaimed "Christian" "party of family values" whose frontrunner couldn't get the endorsement of the raving anti-Catholic bigot Hagee fast enough?
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 23:28:43
again, what say you to the performance record of the self-proclaimed "Christian" "party of family values" whose frontrunner couldn't get the endorsement of the raving anti-Catholic bigot Hagee fast enough?
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 23:28:43
Ripped,
*jihadists* are a vocal, violent *minority* in the Muslim world. They neither represent the majority, nor hold the sort of power the fearmongers of the far right ascribe to them to justify Cheney's war for oil and empire launched and sustained by over 900+ *documented* lies about WMDs and debunked claims of connections between Saddam Hussein and 9/11.
If the Busheviks hadn't been asleep at the switch prior to 9/11, it is very possible that the events of that terrible would never have happened. But the Busheviks chose to ignore the warnings from the intelligence community professionals, to our great loss.
Instead of prosecuting the campaign in Afghanistan to its correct and logical conclusion, the Busheviks chose to shift the effort to Cheney and pals' grab for the Iraqi oil fields. The rest is the ongoing bloody debacle in Iraq.
"Hundred Years War" McCain, the bought lapdog of Charles Keating and the K Street crowd, would merely continue the bloody course of folly and corruption of the Busheviks, he can't tell a Sunni from a Shiite (can you), and doesn't care how long it takes to "win" in Iraq, the cost in lives and our country's treasure be damned.
If there be anyone who does not want peace, it is the Busheviks and their corporatist fellow travelers, as war without end is too profitable for them to want to stop, being the partisans of unbridled avarice that they are.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 23:26:44
*jihadists* are a vocal, violent *minority* in the Muslim world. They neither represent the majority, nor hold the sort of power the fearmongers of the far right ascribe to them to justify Cheney's war for oil and empire launched and sustained by over 900+ *documented* lies about WMDs and debunked claims of connections between Saddam Hussein and 9/11.
If the Busheviks hadn't been asleep at the switch prior to 9/11, it is very possible that the events of that terrible would never have happened. But the Busheviks chose to ignore the warnings from the intelligence community professionals, to our great loss.
Instead of prosecuting the campaign in Afghanistan to its correct and logical conclusion, the Busheviks chose to shift the effort to Cheney and pals' grab for the Iraqi oil fields. The rest is the ongoing bloody debacle in Iraq.
"Hundred Years War" McCain, the bought lapdog of Charles Keating and the K Street crowd, would merely continue the bloody course of folly and corruption of the Busheviks, he can't tell a Sunni from a Shiite (can you), and doesn't care how long it takes to "win" in Iraq, the cost in lives and our country's treasure be damned.
If there be anyone who does not want peace, it is the Busheviks and their corporatist fellow travelers, as war without end is too profitable for them to want to stop, being the partisans of unbridled avarice that they are.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 23:26:44
The "race card?" I have no idea what hallucinogen you're using, but from where this independent is sitting, *you* played that card first and heavy-handed.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 23:16:37
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 23:16:37
If you truly believe that tis screed is *Senator Obama's* personal belief system, I've got some beachfront property in Utah to sell you right on the Great Salt Lake.
BTW, while we're on the subject of God-fearing Christian "family values," let's review the actual performance record of the self-appointed "party of family values:"
http://www.armchairsubversive.org
"Family values" like Caligula or the locals in THE HILLS HAVE EYES.
Better a President Obama than four more years of a partisan hack defender of the "Gang of Pedophiles" and their heretical dominionist propaganda and corporate skullduggery.
If it is character and judgement you are concerned about, how about "Hundred Years War" McCain's taking a bribe from Charles Keating, his apparent relationship with Vicky Isemann, to say nothing of his rampant pandering to the K Street lobbyists, his consistent voting against the needs of our Vets, his inability to tell a Sunni from a Shiite, his deliberate courting of the endorsement of the heretical dominionist bigot Hagee, ad nauseum?
This independent voter would rather take a chance on Senator Obama than four more years of war for oil and empire launched and sustained by over 900+ *documented* lies about WMDs and debunked claims of connections between Saddam Hussein and 9/11, runaway foreign debt, a continuing foreclosure epidemic, cronyism and corruption worthy of Boss Tweed, NCLB, Hurricane Katrina and New Orleans still looking like Hiroshima after the bomb was dropped, ad infinite nauseum.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 23:11:57
BTW, while we're on the subject of God-fearing Christian "family values," let's review the actual performance record of the self-appointed "party of family values:"
http://www.armchairsubversive.org
"Family values" like Caligula or the locals in THE HILLS HAVE EYES.
Better a President Obama than four more years of a partisan hack defender of the "Gang of Pedophiles" and their heretical dominionist propaganda and corporate skullduggery.
If it is character and judgement you are concerned about, how about "Hundred Years War" McCain's taking a bribe from Charles Keating, his apparent relationship with Vicky Isemann, to say nothing of his rampant pandering to the K Street lobbyists, his consistent voting against the needs of our Vets, his inability to tell a Sunni from a Shiite, his deliberate courting of the endorsement of the heretical dominionist bigot Hagee, ad nauseum?
This independent voter would rather take a chance on Senator Obama than four more years of war for oil and empire launched and sustained by over 900+ *documented* lies about WMDs and debunked claims of connections between Saddam Hussein and 9/11, runaway foreign debt, a continuing foreclosure epidemic, cronyism and corruption worthy of Boss Tweed, NCLB, Hurricane Katrina and New Orleans still looking like Hiroshima after the bomb was dropped, ad infinite nauseum.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 23:11:57
House GOP: Can it Get Any Worse
What? you've no *intellectual curiosity,* Timmy?
I would think you'd want to investigate the subject rather than insist others do the work for you.
It shouldn't take more than a few minutes of your time, and a jail sentence is a jail sentence.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 00:40:41
I would think you'd want to investigate the subject rather than insist others do the work for you.
It shouldn't take more than a few minutes of your time, and a jail sentence is a jail sentence.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 00:40:41
"If there is another one like this, that allows open debate and extreme opinions from all sides, I would really like to know."
"I can't believe it... I'm actually AGREEING with you. i adore the open debate that occurs here (Thanks Arianna!)"
1) Come at me with empirical evidence and reason, and nobody gets hurt.
2) The Moderators are a mixed bag; I've had a few of my own posts pulled or disappeared ("extraordinary rendition?") that were anything but impolite or ad hominem in nature, but clearly contained some information or an argument that made someone very uncomfortable.
3) #2 above is predicated on the idea that all or most comments that go *poof* when posted are actually be cut by the moderators, and not some technical glitch, server error, etc.
4) I don't know about others, but this *independent* voter and citizen who loves his country only flags people as *abusive* when they truly *are abusive.*
5) Who are you, and what have you done with Timmy Slagle?
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 00:38:07
"I can't believe it... I'm actually AGREEING with you. i adore the open debate that occurs here (Thanks Arianna!)"
1) Come at me with empirical evidence and reason, and nobody gets hurt.
2) The Moderators are a mixed bag; I've had a few of my own posts pulled or disappeared ("extraordinary rendition?") that were anything but impolite or ad hominem in nature, but clearly contained some information or an argument that made someone very uncomfortable.
3) #2 above is predicated on the idea that all or most comments that go *poof* when posted are actually be cut by the moderators, and not some technical glitch, server error, etc.
4) I don't know about others, but this *independent* voter and citizen who loves his country only flags people as *abusive* when they truly *are abusive.*
5) Who are you, and what have you done with Timmy Slagle?
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 00:38:07
This independent voter is so sick of the "Greedy Old Perverts" that if the Dinocrats run a yellow dog I'll vote for it in November, mad or otherwise.
Woof.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 00:29:27
Woof.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 00:29:27
"I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny imposed upon the mind of man."
- Thomas Jefferson
Amen, Rule, amen.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/11/2008 at 23:45:08
- Thomas Jefferson
Amen, Rule, amen.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/11/2008 at 23:45:08
"Robert Nivelle. "
Well, just goes to show that a complete fool can still be right once in a while; his debacle on the Chemin-des-Dames was the straw that just about broke the camel's back for the French Army in 1917.
"Better stick to playing with Gundams."
Your intel is kinda faulty; haven't bothered with a Gundam in about 20 years now. Too much interest in historical subjects, really.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/11/2008 at 23:38:29
Well, just goes to show that a complete fool can still be right once in a while; his debacle on the Chemin-des-Dames was the straw that just about broke the camel's back for the French Army in 1917.
"Better stick to playing with Gundams."
Your intel is kinda faulty; haven't bothered with a Gundam in about 20 years now. Too much interest in historical subjects, really.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/11/2008 at 23:38:29
Nivelle? Silly me. i've just finished reading a source that blamed Petain for that famous rallying cry, so it serves me right for such a faux pas. But hey, them's sometimes the breaks when studying Military History, like the myth about Polish cavalry charging German tanks in 1939.
So many military historians repeated one another, that the myth became reality for decades until someone bothered to research the matter in proper depth.
Examples:
http://yourarchives.nationalarchives.gov.uk/index.php?title=War_Memorials_and_Cemeteries:_Verdun
http://www.firstworldwar.com/bio/petain.htm
http://wapedia.mobi/en/Henri_Philippe_Pétain
Human memory is not *perfect,* and I'm sure Messr. "Guynemer" you've made a mistake or three in your lifetime as well.
C'est l'vie.
Care to discuss something relevant to this forum, or were you just fishing for a little "gotcha?"
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/11/2008 at 23:35:23
So many military historians repeated one another, that the myth became reality for decades until someone bothered to research the matter in proper depth.
Examples:
http://yourarchives.nationalarchives.gov.uk/index.php?title=War_Memorials_and_Cemeteries:_Verdun
http://www.firstworldwar.com/bio/petain.htm
http://wapedia.mobi/en/Henri_Philippe_Pétain
Human memory is not *perfect,* and I'm sure Messr. "Guynemer" you've made a mistake or three in your lifetime as well.
C'est l'vie.
Care to discuss something relevant to this forum, or were you just fishing for a little "gotcha?"
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/11/2008 at 23:35:23
Then we better invade someplace we can completely overwhelm like Luxembourg or Costa Rica. Otherwise, we'll actually have to really work for our resounding victories as a whole nation, like my parents' generation did during WW2.
Oh, but let's not forget that WW2 was a *legitimate* conflict against tyranny, not a war for oil and empire launched and sustained by over 900+ *documented* lies about WMDs and debunked claims of connections between Saddam Hussein and 9/11.
Seems to me that that may also have something to do with our continuing lack of success in Cheney's war for oil and empire in Iraq, and the institutionalized incompetence of the cronies they employ to mismanage this war, as they are too evidently focused on lining their corporate pockets from the treasury, rather than actually bring hostilities to a close.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/11/2008 at 20:12:09
Oh, but let's not forget that WW2 was a *legitimate* conflict against tyranny, not a war for oil and empire launched and sustained by over 900+ *documented* lies about WMDs and debunked claims of connections between Saddam Hussein and 9/11.
Seems to me that that may also have something to do with our continuing lack of success in Cheney's war for oil and empire in Iraq, and the institutionalized incompetence of the cronies they employ to mismanage this war, as they are too evidently focused on lining their corporate pockets from the treasury, rather than actually bring hostilities to a close.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/11/2008 at 20:12:09
Rule,
1) I too am in the middle.
2) I am always for the principle of The Rule of Law.
3) The "Busheviks" have run roughshod over #2 above.
4) I don't personally care at this point if the "Dinocrats" run a proverbial "yellah dawg" for President; it has my vote.
5) If Senator Obama is the nominee, so much IMHO the vastly better.
6) The entire perverted Bushevik regime are IMHO at best incompetent cronies, at worst war criminals. I want them all investigated, charged where appropriate, and if indicted, marched in irons into the Hague to stand trial. Sauce for the goose applies to *international* law as well IMHO..
7) Our troops need to come home from the bloody bid by Cheney for oil and empire in Iraq, come home to rest and proper treatment as needed for mind and body. Not next week, not next month, not next year, but NOW.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/11/2008 at 20:00:51
1) I too am in the middle.
2) I am always for the principle of The Rule of Law.
3) The "Busheviks" have run roughshod over #2 above.
4) I don't personally care at this point if the "Dinocrats" run a proverbial "yellah dawg" for President; it has my vote.
5) If Senator Obama is the nominee, so much IMHO the vastly better.
6) The entire perverted Bushevik regime are IMHO at best incompetent cronies, at worst war criminals. I want them all investigated, charged where appropriate, and if indicted, marched in irons into the Hague to stand trial. Sauce for the goose applies to *international* law as well IMHO..
7) Our troops need to come home from the bloody bid by Cheney for oil and empire in Iraq, come home to rest and proper treatment as needed for mind and body. Not next week, not next month, not next year, but NOW.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/11/2008 at 20:00:51
Henri Petain is given credit for this rallying cry of the French defenders of Verdun. Too bad he didn't have a similar moral fortitude in June 1940 when he surrendered the Third Republic and followed the capitulation up with his collaborationist Vichy government.
Then again, what could one have expected from a man who blamed the defeat of the French Army in 1940 on the communists.
Sound all too familiar?
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen
P.S. if arch-conservative GE is against the Busheviks, then perhaps my oft-stated thesis that truly honest and patriotic conservatives of the Eisenhower Republican model do still exist, and are also finding their voices after seven and a half years from Hell under the Bushevik regime and its runaway cronyism, corruption, negligence, and criminal incompetence worthy of Boss Tweed. posted 05/11/2008 at 19:54:40
Then again, what could one have expected from a man who blamed the defeat of the French Army in 1940 on the communists.
Sound all too familiar?
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen
P.S. if arch-conservative GE is against the Busheviks, then perhaps my oft-stated thesis that truly honest and patriotic conservatives of the Eisenhower Republican model do still exist, and are also finding their voices after seven and a half years from Hell under the Bushevik regime and its runaway cronyism, corruption, negligence, and criminal incompetence worthy of Boss Tweed. posted 05/11/2008 at 19:54:40
There are other parties; investigate them.
If they support what you stand for, support them with your votes.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/11/2008 at 17:51:52
If they support what you stand for, support them with your votes.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/11/2008 at 17:51:52
Leaving isn't automatically *surrender,* Timmy. Ever hear of "cutting your losses?"
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/11/2008 at 17:49:55
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/11/2008 at 17:49:55
Guynemer,
better drop down to a lower altitude; yes, Olbermann's network is owned by GE. *And* if you watch Olbermann, his commentaries are generally so spot on, so unflattering of the Busheviks, that one must wonder just what the Hell is really going on in GE's boardroom to allow Olbermann to do what he does on national TV.
"Ils ne paseront pas!"
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/11/2008 at 17:48:23
better drop down to a lower altitude; yes, Olbermann's network is owned by GE. *And* if you watch Olbermann, his commentaries are generally so spot on, so unflattering of the Busheviks, that one must wonder just what the Hell is really going on in GE's boardroom to allow Olbermann to do what he does on national TV.
"Ils ne paseront pas!"
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/11/2008 at 17:48:23
All the more reason for progressives and independents and genuinely patriotic conservatives to read up on Sun Tzu's ART OF WAR, and use the internet marvelous tool that it is to do a huge end run around the "Greedy Old Perverts" and their Bushevik minions, stay informed, and keep each other informed. The corporate "presstitutes" have sold their souls to their corporate masters, and care nothing for our country's fate; patriots like Olbermann and Maher are to be supported, but they are the voices in the corporate wilderness. Creatures like Bill O'Liar and Rush "Oxycoton" Limbaugh are best treated as the shills for corporatism and hypocrisy that they are.
IMHO well past time for We The People to take our country back from the corporatists and their Bushevik willing servants.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/11/2008 at 15:51:51
IMHO well past time for We The People to take our country back from the corporatists and their Bushevik willing servants.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/11/2008 at 15:51:51
Um, here's the record so far:
http://www.armchairsubversive.org
"Family values" worthy of David Koresh or the locals in THE HILLS HAVE EYES.
Latest GOP spin shenanigans on this subject:
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/051108E.shtml
Yeah, real "family values" crowd, those loyalists of the "Gang of Pedophiles."
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/11/2008 at 15:44:50
http://www.armchairsubversive.org
"Family values" worthy of David Koresh or the locals in THE HILLS HAVE EYES.
Latest GOP spin shenanigans on this subject:
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/051108E.shtml
Yeah, real "family values" crowd, those loyalists of the "Gang of Pedophiles."
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/11/2008 at 15:44:50
But they can't:
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/051108E.shtml
I mean, the GOP is THE "party of family values:"
http://www.armchairsubversive.org
"Family values" worthy of David Koresh or Caligua.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/11/2008 at 15:42:21
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/051108E.shtml
I mean, the GOP is THE "party of family values:"
http://www.armchairsubversive.org
"Family values" worthy of David Koresh or Caligua.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/11/2008 at 15:42:21
Rage,
if you must cite the performance record of the GOP, get it right:
http://www.armchairsubversive.org
"Family values" like the locals in THE HILLS HAVE EYES.
Check out this latest shenanigans of the "Gang of Pedophiles" in Florida:
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/051108E.shtml
Toss in 900+ *documented* lies about WMDs and debunked claims of connections between Saddam Hussein and 9/11, defective body armour, VA benefits denied to deserving vets as an apparent matter of official policy, Cheney crony KBR serving rotting food and contaminated water to our troops ("Support our troops!"), "Heckuvajob" Brownie and Hurricane Katrina, ad infinite nauseum.
So far methinks *Stalin* and *Lenin* have already shown up, in the *Bushevik* White House where just like the late, unlamented Politbureau, Party cronyism and corruption run riot, while the masses are thrown platitudes, rigged elections, and authoritarian appeals to patriotism and ignorance through a complicit news media.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/11/2008 at 15:39:33
if you must cite the performance record of the GOP, get it right:
http://www.armchairsubversive.org
"Family values" like the locals in THE HILLS HAVE EYES.
Check out this latest shenanigans of the "Gang of Pedophiles" in Florida:
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/051108E.shtml
Toss in 900+ *documented* lies about WMDs and debunked claims of connections between Saddam Hussein and 9/11, defective body armour, VA benefits denied to deserving vets as an apparent matter of official policy, Cheney crony KBR serving rotting food and contaminated water to our troops ("Support our troops!"), "Heckuvajob" Brownie and Hurricane Katrina, ad infinite nauseum.
So far methinks *Stalin* and *Lenin* have already shown up, in the *Bushevik* White House where just like the late, unlamented Politbureau, Party cronyism and corruption run riot, while the masses are thrown platitudes, rigged elections, and authoritarian appeals to patriotism and ignorance through a complicit news media.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/11/2008 at 15:39:33
Why Has John McCain Abandoned the American Soldier?
FLguardsman,
thank you for your service to our country.
IMHO as a civilian and taxpayer, this is wrong -dead wrong- as it gets. Those who serve our country in uniform should not have to pay into the GI Bill, like it's some sort of corporate 401K plan. If they stay in a reasonable length of service, and are discharged honourably or are discharged due to injuries sustained while in the service of our country, they have IMHO earned the right to GI Bill educational benefits.
Anything less IMHO is simply not good enough, a failure to take care of our own the very people we depend upon to defend our nation.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 18:33:09
thank you for your service to our country.
IMHO as a civilian and taxpayer, this is wrong -dead wrong- as it gets. Those who serve our country in uniform should not have to pay into the GI Bill, like it's some sort of corporate 401K plan. If they stay in a reasonable length of service, and are discharged honourably or are discharged due to injuries sustained while in the service of our country, they have IMHO earned the right to GI Bill educational benefits.
Anything less IMHO is simply not good enough, a failure to take care of our own the very people we depend upon to defend our nation.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 18:33:09
*Dishonourably* discharged personnel I agree, do NOT deserve anything by a boot in the butt straight out the gate.
Those injured in training however, IMHO do indeed deserve at least the minimal care the VA can offer if they are permanently disabled, including vocational retraining if possible. Such honest recruits who become disabled IMHO deserve such care, for the simple reason that they at least were *trying* to serve their country.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 18:27:20
Those injured in training however, IMHO do indeed deserve at least the minimal care the VA can offer if they are permanently disabled, including vocational retraining if possible. Such honest recruits who become disabled IMHO deserve such care, for the simple reason that they at least were *trying* to serve their country.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 18:27:20
Read them, "Comrade Casey." While we could debate whether Reagan's buildup (started by Carter BTW) was about supporting our troops or supporting defense contractors (remember the "Multi-Directional Impact generators?"), I have *always* supported the principle of taking care of our own, *especially* those in uniform who serve honourably.
Those dishonourably discharged or discharged for other valid reasons such as unfitness are a separate issue; those who get booted deserve IMHO*only* the boot.
Those injured during training through no fault of their own however are IMHO due for all proper care We The People can provide; they signed up, took their chances, and got hurt (trying) to serve their country.
*Senator* John Mccain (R), Arizona, IMHO has failed to live up to the John McCain of Hanoi Hilton fame in this matter. It is one thing to oppose a bill, it is another to oppose a bill and offer a positive alternative, which AFAIK he has not done, nor offered to do.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 18:22:26
Those dishonourably discharged or discharged for other valid reasons such as unfitness are a separate issue; those who get booted deserve IMHO*only* the boot.
Those injured during training through no fault of their own however are IMHO due for all proper care We The People can provide; they signed up, took their chances, and got hurt (trying) to serve their country.
*Senator* John Mccain (R), Arizona, IMHO has failed to live up to the John McCain of Hanoi Hilton fame in this matter. It is one thing to oppose a bill, it is another to oppose a bill and offer a positive alternative, which AFAIK he has not done, nor offered to do.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 18:22:26
John McCains son's have nothing to do with their father's fitness to occupy the White House. We are Americans, and do not judge the fitness of one member of a family based upon the deeds of another. John McCain's sons must write their own chapters in our nation's history, if in fact they are destined to do so.
John McCain's service over 35 years ago is a separate matter from his fitness to occupy the White House. His voting record, his partisan loyalty to the GOP, the runaway hypocrisy of his party and its equally runaway cronyism and corruption speak far more loudly and clearly to this independent voter about his thorough *lack of fitness* to be our next President.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 14:28:23
John McCain's service over 35 years ago is a separate matter from his fitness to occupy the White House. His voting record, his partisan loyalty to the GOP, the runaway hypocrisy of his party and its equally runaway cronyism and corruption speak far more loudly and clearly to this independent voter about his thorough *lack of fitness* to be our next President.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 14:28:23
"down to where 6-month served weenies are covered. "
Care to explain (1) how one can serve only six months other than being discharged for medical or other reasons, and (2) how that makes them "weenies?"
What if a person in our nation's Armed Forces enlists, is injured in basic in a training accident, permanently disabled and in need of lifelong care? Are they somehow *unworthy* of care through the VA in your view? Does their being injured make them a "weenie" in your humble opinion?
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 14:21:25
Care to explain (1) how one can serve only six months other than being discharged for medical or other reasons, and (2) how that makes them "weenies?"
What if a person in our nation's Armed Forces enlists, is injured in basic in a training accident, permanently disabled and in need of lifelong care? Are they somehow *unworthy* of care through the VA in your view? Does their being injured make them a "weenie" in your humble opinion?
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 14:21:25
PART III
McCain has been none of these things, done virtually nothing to advance the rights and needs of our veterans in this arena.
"Hundred Years War" McCain is demonstrably no friend of the veteran, and it shows in his egregious voting record, as surely as he is no friend of We The People, which shows just as conclusively in his relationships with Charles Keating and the K Street lobbyists, and his slavish devotion to the GOP in all of its corruption and cronyism.
As surely as the GOP has conclusively proven itself to be the most corrupt and inept political party movement since Boss Tweed and Tammany Hall, McCain has shown that he cares not one iota about his fellow veterans, their care needs, or the needs and obligations of We The People. McCain remains a staunch partisan of the GOP, and all that that entails, as surely as his voting record has silently spat upon the service of every deserving veteran who has legitimately sought treatment at their local VA, and was turned away.
As hypocritical as his party has been on the subject of "family values," so too has McCain been a complete and utter hypocrite on veteran's care.
Senator John "Hundred Years War" McCain has earned my unrestrained contempt, his war record be damned.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 14:09:46
McCain has been none of these things, done virtually nothing to advance the rights and needs of our veterans in this arena.
"Hundred Years War" McCain is demonstrably no friend of the veteran, and it shows in his egregious voting record, as surely as he is no friend of We The People, which shows just as conclusively in his relationships with Charles Keating and the K Street lobbyists, and his slavish devotion to the GOP in all of its corruption and cronyism.
As surely as the GOP has conclusively proven itself to be the most corrupt and inept political party movement since Boss Tweed and Tammany Hall, McCain has shown that he cares not one iota about his fellow veterans, their care needs, or the needs and obligations of We The People. McCain remains a staunch partisan of the GOP, and all that that entails, as surely as his voting record has silently spat upon the service of every deserving veteran who has legitimately sought treatment at their local VA, and was turned away.
As hypocritical as his party has been on the subject of "family values," so too has McCain been a complete and utter hypocrite on veteran's care.
Senator John "Hundred Years War" McCain has earned my unrestrained contempt, his war record be damned.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 14:09:46
PART II
It is this voting record that has led me to conclude that John McCain is a traitor to every one of those who have served our country in uniform, as much as he is a traitor to the needs of We The People. By opposing the health and mental health care benefits and the new GI Bill, Senator McCain has proven himself no friend of the veteran, and, given IMHO the absolute moral imperative upon We The People to properly care for those who sacrifice in the service of our nation, a traitor to We The People by so egregiously not seeing to the fulfillment of this very obligation by implementing proper care for our vets through the VA system.
IMHO a real hero, a true American war hero in Congress, would be a tireless crusader for veteran's rights and care, a veritable tiger in pursuit of reforming the Veteran's Administration hospitals, a person incapable of tolerating for a second the current deplorable state of affairs, from vermin-infested facilities, to inadequate care for disabled vets, to inadequate mental healthcare for those vets scared in mind as well as body by their experiences in our nation's service.
Such a genuine war hero turned senator would be relentless is seeing that only truly caring and qualified medical and psychiatric professionals get anywhere near our sick or disabled vets, professionals who place their patients' care front and center ahead of bureaucratic red tape and politics.
END PART II posted 05/12/2008 at 14:09:36
It is this voting record that has led me to conclude that John McCain is a traitor to every one of those who have served our country in uniform, as much as he is a traitor to the needs of We The People. By opposing the health and mental health care benefits and the new GI Bill, Senator McCain has proven himself no friend of the veteran, and, given IMHO the absolute moral imperative upon We The People to properly care for those who sacrifice in the service of our nation, a traitor to We The People by so egregiously not seeing to the fulfillment of this very obligation by implementing proper care for our vets through the VA system.
IMHO a real hero, a true American war hero in Congress, would be a tireless crusader for veteran's rights and care, a veritable tiger in pursuit of reforming the Veteran's Administration hospitals, a person incapable of tolerating for a second the current deplorable state of affairs, from vermin-infested facilities, to inadequate care for disabled vets, to inadequate mental healthcare for those vets scared in mind as well as body by their experiences in our nation's service.
Such a genuine war hero turned senator would be relentless is seeing that only truly caring and qualified medical and psychiatric professionals get anywhere near our sick or disabled vets, professionals who place their patients' care front and center ahead of bureaucratic red tape and politics.
END PART II posted 05/12/2008 at 14:09:36
Sir,
I am an independent voter, the son of a WW2 US Marine, and the equally proud nephew of a WW2 US Army veteran who served in General George S. Patton, Jr.'s 3rd Army in the German Campaign. In my lifetime I have counted many friends, acquaintances, professional colleagues, and other family members who have served our country, in many cases in combat. More than a few I've met were decorated for their service.
I have studied war and soldiering all of my life, starting with family stories of "those times."
I was taught to respect those who serve our country in uniform as unconditionally as possible, no matter how passionately I may disagree with them otherwise on matters of politics, et al.
Whatever service John McCain performed in the past IMHO has been well-and-thoroughly rendered irrelevant by his shameless self-aggrandizement while a member of the US Senate, from his blatant involvement with Charles Keating to his apparent relationship with Vicky Isemann and the K Street lobbyists to this, his voting record contrary to the needs of our troops.
END PART I posted 05/12/2008 at 14:08:58
I am an independent voter, the son of a WW2 US Marine, and the equally proud nephew of a WW2 US Army veteran who served in General George S. Patton, Jr.'s 3rd Army in the German Campaign. In my lifetime I have counted many friends, acquaintances, professional colleagues, and other family members who have served our country, in many cases in combat. More than a few I've met were decorated for their service.
I have studied war and soldiering all of my life, starting with family stories of "those times."
I was taught to respect those who serve our country in uniform as unconditionally as possible, no matter how passionately I may disagree with them otherwise on matters of politics, et al.
Whatever service John McCain performed in the past IMHO has been well-and-thoroughly rendered irrelevant by his shameless self-aggrandizement while a member of the US Senate, from his blatant involvement with Charles Keating to his apparent relationship with Vicky Isemann and the K Street lobbyists to this, his voting record contrary to the needs of our troops.
END PART I posted 05/12/2008 at 14:08:58
US Makes Changes To Cremations For Slain Troops
If so, are the tales of deserving vets getting the runaround true or false?
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 20:58:38
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 20:58:38
I am well aware of what I stand for, and where I stand in these times, and who for and with.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 20:57:47
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 20:57:47
No. I have plenty of people to carry on intelligent banter with.
And have you ever stopped and pondered what precisely I mean by "Busheviks?"
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 20:56:52
And have you ever stopped and pondered what precisely I mean by "Busheviks?"
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 20:56:52
Gladly. You *did* after all serve our country for 30 years.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 20:55:54
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 20:55:54
I knew he'd run out of steam eventually... >;D
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 20:55:18
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 20:55:18
OK. Fair enough, then if you have in fact lived in the US since age 19, then the excuse that you've been away from things for a very long time an perhaps can be forgiven for being out of touch due to being geographically removed from things on the home front goes poof.
Now you IMHO have no excuse for your partisan defense of the Busheviks and their seven and a half year reign of corruption and folly.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 10:29:44
Now you IMHO have no excuse for your partisan defense of the Busheviks and their seven and a half year reign of corruption and folly.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 10:29:44
Your questions are rarely reasonable, Red, and they are as often as not accompanied by bashing the hated "liberals" who do not share your distorted world view.
*Honest* conservatives may be "nice people just like me," however it seems to me that a great many very vocal individuals these past seven and a half years from Hell have been calling themselves "conservatives" but conducting themselves as *reactionary corporatist* who serve corporate interests and corporate interests alone -and frequently solely their own- while occupying public office either elected or appointed, at taxpayer expense, and to the detriment of the rule of law and the interests of our nation.
That you cannot grasp this simple truth is solely your problem, Red.
That you are guilty of hubris has merely served to draw you into this little exchange of ours. It has been enlightening to say the least.
Cheers.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 10:27:14
*Honest* conservatives may be "nice people just like me," however it seems to me that a great many very vocal individuals these past seven and a half years from Hell have been calling themselves "conservatives" but conducting themselves as *reactionary corporatist* who serve corporate interests and corporate interests alone -and frequently solely their own- while occupying public office either elected or appointed, at taxpayer expense, and to the detriment of the rule of law and the interests of our nation.
That you cannot grasp this simple truth is solely your problem, Red.
That you are guilty of hubris has merely served to draw you into this little exchange of ours. It has been enlightening to say the least.
Cheers.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 10:27:14
Riiight. Respecting and showing respect for those who served our country and the cause of freedom so honourable is a thing worthy only of sarcasm in your book, Red.
If there be anything more telling about your sad mindset, it is IMHO this.
God help you, old man.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 10:16:12
If there be anything more telling about your sad mindset, it is IMHO this.
God help you, old man.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 10:16:12
"I certainly can't."
Yes, Red, that you cannot keep up is plainly evident.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 10:14:43
Yes, Red, that you cannot keep up is plainly evident.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 10:14:43
No desperation whatsoever; I've plenty of people to banter with about far, far more interesting things that the ongoing Bushevik regime and its skullduggeries.
So my giving you some of my time is really as much for my own amusement, as well as its clinical value.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 10:11:35
So my giving you some of my time is really as much for my own amusement, as well as its clinical value.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 10:11:35
Gladly. You served our country, so it's the least I can do.
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 10:09:39
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 10:09:39
By now; don't letthe door hit you on the kester on the way out!
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 10:08:38
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/12/2008 at 10:08:38
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the only pharisees this independent voter sees in great abundance are infesting the "Greedy Old Perverts" that Chimpy "Mission Accomplished" McFlightsuit is a loyal member and titular leader thereof:
http://www.armchairsubversive.org
"Family values" like the locals in THE HILLS HAVE EYES.
None of this surprises me, as the Bushe White House has publicly uttered over 900+ *documented* lies about WMDs and debunked claims of connections between Saddam Hussein and 9/11, so Chimpy lying about his golf game is (excuse the pun) par for the course.
you Dinocrats need to lighten up on the fratricidal squabbling and remember who the real enemy of We The People really is (I'll give you a hint: it ain't Hillary and it ain't Barack).
Capiche?
Leland R. Erickson
Citizen posted 05/16/2008 at 19:09:02