ClevelandTom

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Joe Biden Slams Bush For Obama Appeasement Comments

I'm trying to picture Bush planning, much less refining a plan. It doesn't work. posted 05/16/2008 at 12:40:55
The Israeli parliament is probably the only one place in the world where Bush can repeat his discredited (by the Iraq Study Group, Sec. Rice and Sec. Gates to name a few) policy of refusing to talk to Middle East opponents and get applause. Clearly Bush was taking a shot at Obama but maybe its been so long since he talked to anyone that agreed with him on this point that he couldn't resist? posted 05/16/2008 at 12:36:09

Chris Matthews Eviscerates Right-Wing Host Kevin James Over Obama "Appeasement" Claims

And always make sure you have your finger on the kill button in case a caller knows more than you. posted 05/16/2008 at 09:25:08
In my travels, it seems every city has at least two or three of these guys. They seem to usually have the 9 AM to noon slot. After the drive time slot. What I find especially humorous is when they try to discuss the science related to global warming. posted 05/16/2008 at 09:16:46

Bush Compares Obama To Nazi Appeasers

So when Bush said "Some seem to believe we should negotiate with terrorists and radicals,..." just who do you suppose he was referring to? posted 05/15/2008 at 15:33:42
Definitely. I've never seen any polls on this but I suspect a majority of Americans fail to see any harm and possible good by talking to Iran, Syria and even Hamas. It just makes sense. posted 05/15/2008 at 15:31:36
Bush's refusal to talk to opponents is incomprehensible. Even Israel, to whom he made this statement, talks to the likes of Hamas. Wasn't it Simone Perez, former PM of Israel, who said something like, "Of course I talk to my enemies. I don't need to talk to my friends."? posted 05/15/2008 at 15:24:10

John Edwards Endorses Obama... GOP Prospects "Worst Since Watergate"

I thin what ifreez is saying is that it is likely that, after all is said and done, FL and MI delegates will be seated in some way. It is likely that FL will be seated as voted in their primary. MI will have to be a negotiated settlement of some kind since Obama wasn't even in the ballot.

Seating FL and MI won't be done to make Clinton happy. It will be done because there is concern of a backlash from voters in those states in the general. posted 05/14/2008 at 18:22:09

Bush: I Gave Up Golf For The Troops

What leads Bush, a professional politician, to think that any American, much less a trooper in Iraq, would hear about his "sarifice" of golf and believe that Bush has the slightest bit of empathy for those involved in the war.

And you will note that Bush gave up golf after the UN envoy was killed, not in response to US troop deaths. posted 05/14/2008 at 07:17:54

Before Bitter-Gate: What Obama Said Hours Earlier About Guns

Ownership is not the issue. It is the regulation of the commerce that is the issue. The Constitution doesn't say that kids can't drive cars or buy liquor but we regulate that. Do you want to share the freeway with a 12 year old kid? posted 05/13/2008 at 16:34:43
The State of NY did try to take a couple of gunshop owners in VA and OH to court because so many guns that turned up in NYC crimes came from those shops. Not sure how those cases turned out. posted 05/13/2008 at 16:25:57
Recently a guy wrote a book on the NRA. (Don't have the title at hand.) The author's opinion of why the NRA was opposed to ANY compomise on any gun issue is that each time one of those issues comes up, the NRA can hit their members up for contributions and attract more members. More money in means more money to compensate the NRA leadership. So political compromise is not in the NRA leadership's interest. posted 05/13/2008 at 16:22:10
I disagree.

Federally mandated waiting periods, background checks, limited quantity purchases, and other things like that shouldn't trouble the legitimate would-be gun owner in the least. It would, however, put a crimp in the guys who go from a state with very tight restrictions to one with none to buy quantities of guns to sell on the restricted state's black market. posted 05/13/2008 at 16:13:48

James Carville Says Obama Likely To Be Nominee

Still haven't dealt with Clinton's wins in '92 and '96? posted 05/13/2008 at 11:05:39
That still doesn't answer my original question. Laying it on Carville, Clinton or anyone else now that Obama essentially has won is simply dumb politics. posted 05/13/2008 at 10:59:19
Why pile on Carville now that he is taking steps to recognize Obama is the apprant nominee? Doing so just makes it harder for others to do the same. Sore losers are bad enough. Sore winners are worse. posted 05/13/2008 at 10:49:13

Obama Muslim Smear Resurfaces: NYT Op-Ed Tags Obama As Muslim 'Apostate'

Of course Luttwak's wacky analysis rests on the assumption that all leaders of Muslim nations feel compelled to enforce all Muslim law to the letter. I guess that is why they all refuse to deal with female leaders such as Condeleeza Rice, Madaline Albright and many others. We all know that Muslim law says that women are not to be seen outside of the house. Oh, wait a minute, they meet with women like that all the time.

The reality is that despite his adoption of Christianity, the ordinary person on the street in Muslim nations is likely to feel something of a connection to Obama because of his ancestry. Certainly more than to George Bush. That will be to Obama's advantage. posted 05/13/2008 at 06:52:28

Could Obama Redraw The Map?

I don't know how you come that conclusion. Obama is likely to take MI and PA, and be close in OH and FL. (I can assure you that the voters in Ohio look upon Republicans far differently than they did in 2004 and 2000.) posted 05/12/2008 at 17:39:25
Maybe but Obama has more young volunteers than any candidate has had since, I would guess, RFK. And young voter turnout during the primaries was much higher than average. I wouldn't predict what turnout he'll get but I would wager that it will be substantially higher among young voters than we've seen in a long time. posted 05/12/2008 at 17:33:53
In the weeks prior to the OH primary, I got three calls from the Obama campaign, all made by live people. And in each of the calls, the volunteer was inclined to stay on the line awhile and chat about the race, my opinions, etc.

Over the same period, I think I also got about three calls from the Clinton campaign. Everyone of them was a robocall.

Neither set of calls moved me since I had already decided on Obama but imagining myself as someone on the fence, I can see how the real people calls would make a difference.

People talk about the great "ground game" Bush had in his two runs. I'm inclined to think that Obama has an even better one. posted 05/12/2008 at 17:24:57
I am of the opinion that _any_ Democratic candidate running for president now has to re-draw the map to some extent in order to win.

If a the Dem nominee runs on the same strategy as Gore and Kerry, in essence the race comes down to what happens in FL and OH. And in those states, the the Repubs have more buttons to push than the Dems. In OH, for example, the Repubs managed to get anti-gay amendments on the ballot in both 2000 and 2004. Those amendements brought an extra couple of hundred thousand very conservative voters to the polls and gave the state and the election to Bush.

Obama's ability to re-draw the map gives him a substantially better chance to win the general than Clinton. posted 05/12/2008 at 17:17:15

Top 10 Reasons Obama Defeated Clinton for the Democratic Nomination

Obviously you are a Republican. Only a Republican would extrapolate the opinion of a single voter to about 20 million others. posted 05/12/2008 at 17:58:46
During the Clinton admin, we saw a lot of competence but also far more drama than we like. With Bush we saw little drama but glaring incompetence. I think we're all just looking for minimum drama and maxmum competence this time around. posted 05/12/2008 at 17:56:33

Obama In Kentucky And West Virginia: Why Will He Lose?

You make the astounding claim that the people of WV and KY are uneducated. I'd say your post is one of the more uneducated ones I have seen.

Have you ever been in either state? Have you ever met the people? I doubt it.

Sure, the people in these states are less likely to vote for Obama as are the white people in most of the states south of them. You may say they are making a mistake in favoring Clinton or McCain but to denigrate their education is just plain ignorant. posted 05/12/2008 at 13:32:20

Clinton goes from inevitable nominee to on the ropes

Many people think Hillary is a "fighter" because, despite the apparant odds, she keeps on trying. But then some would say Bush is a fighter too because because despite the apparant futility, he keeps the US in Iraq.

There is a fine line between tenacity and obsession. posted 05/11/2008 at 20:41:19

Obama Campaign Launches "Vote For Change" Voter Registration Drive

Yeah, the polling has been so accurate during this cycle I'm sure that their polling for the general election is right on target.

Once the Dem nomination issue us decided, things settle down a bit, and Obama has time to point out some of McCain's many warts, those polls are going to change a great deal. posted 05/11/2008 at 08:49:14
"If those 300M idiots believe steel frame buildings just collapse into their own footprint from low intensity hydrocarbon fire, then so be it."

I have to laugh everytime I see this bogus claim about steel by the 911 tin foil hat crowd. Do they ever wonder how the steel industry softens steel so they can roll it into different shapes such as I-beams? (Hint: They use hyrdrocarbon fires.) posted 05/11/2008 at 08:25:54
No presidential candidate has ever amassed 1 million donors. I'd be suprised if any other candidate as broken 250,000. posted 05/10/2008 at 19:19:25
Obama has a specific plan on withdrawal. About a brigade per month. See it on his web site... as if you would actually be interested. posted 05/10/2008 at 19:17:31
I don't know who is scheduled on the Sunday morning talk shows but it would be nice is some prominent Dem announced for Obama then. posted 05/10/2008 at 19:04:53
Obama will end up with what I would guess is the largest database of donors, activists and voters that has ever been collected. Besides helping him get elected, this will help him govern. His future ability to help the election of democratic members of Congress with this database will gain him substantial political leverage in Congress. posted 05/10/2008 at 19:00:24

Obama Suggests Offer Maybe Clinton Can't Refuse

Did you read the story? By law, Obama cannot give Clinton money from his campaign funds. He has to do it in other ways, such as making an appeal to his donors or holding some kind of fundraiser. So none of the money you give him will go to Clinton. posted 05/10/2008 at 07:38:08

Rasmussen To Stop Polling Clinton Questions

If Clinton drags this thing out and, after Obama is nomintated, does not show active support for him, and then Obama loses the general, much of the blame will fall back on Clinton. posted 05/10/2008 at 07:50:20
And I think the nuttiness will only intensify until Clinton finally calls it quits. Did you read about the e-mails Clinton supporters have been sending to uncommitted superdelegates? posted 05/10/2008 at 07:47:14

Obama Beats Hillary In Superdelegates For First Time, ABC Reports

Note to Obama camp:
If helping to pay off Clinton's debts will get Clinton out of the race quickly (like in the next week) and in a way that shows she now supports Obama, then it would be money well-spent. posted 05/09/2008 at 11:55:38

Obama Camp Faces Major Obstacles In Plan To Help Clinton Pay Off Debt

Politics is business as much as it is politics. If Clinton ends her campaign her contributions stop and she's stuck with a huge debt. That may be a big reason she is staying in. If Obama paying some of that debt encourages her to get out of the contest very soon rather than later, Obama benefits and it might be a very good investment. posted 05/09/2008 at 10:25:00
Obama helping to pay Clinton's debts might be worth it if: A) Clinton stops using anti-Obama and divisive language in her campaign immediately and B) she stands down her campaign immediately after WV and KY. posted 05/09/2008 at 08:45:09

Obama Vice President Picks: Who Are The Frontrunners?

If Clinton persists in waging her campaign beyond Puerto Rico, then Obama will be forced to look for a VP who can help heal the divide in the party as quickly as possible with only three months before the general election.

Theoretically, that unifier would be Clinton herself but if she pushes all the way to the convention she will be an impossible choice. So Obama will have to look for a prominent Clinton supporter. Ideally it would be a southerner but no one comes to mind. So I think Gov Rendell of PA, Gov Strickland of OH, or someone similar would be the likely choice.

If Clinton folds her tent sooner then Obama's options are broader. He should probably look for someone to shore up his national security credentials. posted 05/10/2008 at 09:01:12

Clinton's Open Letter To Obama On MI and FL

That Clinton could not win the nomination by means other than party-breaking backroom deal with super delegates has been clear for about a month. Then it was perhaps appropriate that the uncommitted super delegates held off making Obama's win official to give Clinton time to end her campaign on her own terms.

Clinton's recent campaign speeches and interviews in WV make it clear that she is not ending her bid gracefully. She is still throwing the kitchen sink at Obama. This is damaging the his chances in the general election and damaging the party

I contend that, at this point, the super delegates' failure to commit to Obama makes them complicit in the harm that Clinton is doing to the party. posted 05/09/2008 at 07:14:42
Splitting MI 50-50 is the only rational thing to do there and Clinton should consider that a gift since she only got 55% of the vote against no viable candidate. Go ahead and give Clinton FL as voted. She gains about 10 delegates but doesn't change the overall situation. posted 05/08/2008 at 20:58:52
I strongly agree with the Biden choice. He's one of the few people I've heard that seems to grasp the ME in its totality and has strategic ideas on how to approach it. Unlike Bush and many others, he isn't just fixated on Iraq and Iran. posted 05/08/2008 at 20:55:35
"I have consistently said that the votes cast in Florida and Michigan in January should be counted."

I think part of this sentence must have been left out. It should read:

"I have consistently said that the votes cast in Florida and Michigan in January should be counted... after you took the lead in delegates." posted 05/08/2008 at 17:30:48

Obama gains superdelegates after trading wins with Clinton

If the super delegates giving the nomination to Obama is "affirmative action", what would you call giving it to Clinton who has fewer delegates?

If you chose to vote McCain, fine, but consider why you wanted Hillary to be president. Do you honestly think McCain is closer to delivering on those reasons than Obama? Democracy isn't about your side winning everytime out. Democracy is about recognizing the will of the majority and compromise. posted 05/07/2008 at 22:52:40
Richardson would be good as Sec State but I think Biden would be better. I think he really understands what's happening in the ME from Israel all the way to Iran and has a strategic view on how to deal with it. That is sorely needed right now. posted 05/07/2008 at 22:47:59
Party unification is key but it takes two. Clinton has an obligation in this respect too. If she carries on with her campaign now with the same "kitchen sink" approach she has used over the past two months, she will not be doing her part. posted 05/07/2008 at 22:43:57
"Lets not destroy the democratic party "

When was the last time you voted for a Democratic candidate for president? posted 05/07/2008 at 21:12:40
McCain used to be a right or center candidate but he abandoned that position over the past two years...

- Now he's for making the tax cuts for the wealthy permanent
- Now he considers the conservative Christian bloc part of his base
- Now he thinks torture is OK
- Then of course there's is stand on the war in Iraq which is anything but centerist.
and so on. posted 05/07/2008 at 21:10:29

Hillary Will Drop Out by June 15

You will note that the stories today are about CLINTON supporters telling her to get out, not Obama people. posted 05/07/2008 at 17:07:11
If she is really campaigning for 2012 then she needs to ease herself out of this race as soon as possible. Every day she drags this thing out costs her political capital within the party hierarchy and among ordinary Dem voters. What she should not want to do is force the most prominent Dem super delegates to make their announcement for Obama before she concedes. posted 05/07/2008 at 17:03:02
You seem to be making the assumption that since Obama only received about 45% of the Dem white vote against Clinton that he will do the same in the general. That assumption makes no sense. If Hillary won the nomination fair and square, do you think she would only get 7-8 % of the black vote in the general because that's what she got in the primaries? posted 05/07/2008 at 17:00:13

George McGovern Switches To Obama, Urges Clinton To Drop Out

Recall the five stages of grief:
1. Denial
2. Anger
3. Bargaining
4. Depression
5. Acceptance

Most Clinton supporters have been in Denial for several weeks. Now I see evidence of Anger and Bargaining in their posts. I'm guessing any that are in the Depression stage probably aren't posting.

You are making progress. posted 05/07/2008 at 12:00:52

Chris Matthews Admits: MSNBC Bosses Were "Basically Pro-War"

That MSNBC execs were pro-war is no suprise. Look at what they did to Phil Donahue who, as far as I know, the only person with a daily show that expressed doubts about invading Iraq before the fact. posted 05/07/2008 at 10:33:10

Obama Victorious, Clinton On The Ropes

Clinton's only option now is to navigate a course that will salvage as much of her political clout as she can so that if Obama loses in November she can try again in 2012. And if Obama wins, establish herself as the most important Dem in Congress.

Every day she delays acknowledging that Obama is the apparant nominee and urging her supporters to get behind him will drain some of that political clout. And the rate of drain accelerates each day. posted 05/07/2008 at 06:52:33

McCain's Rough Night Overshadowed By Clinton's

I doubt that Obama's campaign will bring up McCain's religious right preachers unless McCain tries to raise the Wright thing. posted 05/07/2008 at 07:08:49

Exit Polls: Limbaugh Effect Seems To Rear Its Head

Did Limbaugh give Clinton a 7% bump in Indiana? Probably some of it but certainly not all. There are other rational reasons for Republicans crossover to vote for her:
- Many Republicans are simply disgusted with Bush and the elements that have taken control of their party. Some are crossing over to the Dems. They may see Clinton as a somewhat less liberal option than Obama, especially on budget and economic issues.
- Some Republican women are crossing over to help a women gain the White House.
- Some Republicans want the Iraq war to end. Clinton and Obama are a toss-up in that regard. posted 05/07/2008 at 12:26:56

What's My Logo: Madeleine Albright Talks Signature Brooches And Barack Obama's Missing Lapel Pin (VIDEO)

In my experience, people who display symbols of their patriotisim or their religion in everyday life should be regarded with suspicion. It immediately raises the question, "What are you trying to prove and why?" posted 05/07/2008 at 10:24:38

Study: Media Covered Wright More Than Clinton Last Week

We get the fact that you don't like Obama. But can you at least come up with some new material? You been copying and pasting the same three messages to various threads since since your first post on 5/2, according to your profile. posted 05/06/2008 at 18:19:23
"God damn", is a profanity? I am certain if you check your Bible you'll find that phrase used. God damned all sorts of people according to the Bible. posted 05/06/2008 at 18:11:45
Is there something fundamentally wrong with a person who remains in a church whose pastor says or does some things you disagree with? Please explain to me how that is the case.

And then explain to me what is wrong with the judgement of all those Catholics that remain with the Church after the pedophilia and coverup scandels. posted 05/06/2008 at 17:40:04

Indiana, North Carolina Primaries: Voters Get Ready To Settle Remaining Contests

As far as I know, Hillary has not submitted a bill in the Senate for this gas tax holiday she is touting. Am I correct? posted 05/06/2008 at 17:31:37
Most states allow you toto vote in the primary if you register and will be 18 by the time of the general election, which was the case fir this woman's daughter. D'UH. posted 05/06/2008 at 17:30:04

Questioning Hillary Clinton's 'Victory' in Pennsylvania: The Rush Limbaugh Effect

Sorry but Ms. Leach's argument is weak. (And I'm an Obama supporter.)

Ms. Leach ignores exit polling numbers of cross-over voters that show that Obama got about 60% of those votes in the early primaries and about half of them in TX and OH.

Ms. Leach ignores the possibility that the excesses of the Bush administration that became most apparant after the '04 election could push Republicans to switch faster than she has observed in the past. Let's face it, Bush has been a very unique president.

Ms. Leach ignores the possibility that some cross-over voters may do so for gender reasons. I.e., they want a woman in the White House no matter the party. That alone makes this election unique.

Personally, I think a solid majority of cross-over voters are sincere in their switch. No doubt there are some that want to make mischief or because they are ditto-heads but I think they are relatively few and have had a minimum effect on the elections. posted 05/06/2008 at 09:14:48

Latest Indiana And North Carolina Polling Averages

According to Merriam-Webster a demagogue is:
"a leader who makes use of popular prejudices and false claims and promises in order to gain power "

Bush's run-up to the war in Iraq was demagoguery. Bush's appeal to the Christian conservatives was too. Reagan's "Southern Strategy" was demagoguery.

Now, would you care to relate a single statement by Obama that has been demagoguery? What prejudice is it that Obama is appealing to? posted 05/05/2008 at 15:54:39
"A lot more votes have been cast for Senator Clinton"

IF you don't count the caucus votes and IF you count the invalidated FL and MI votes then Clinton has a couple hundred thousand vote lead out of tens of millions of votes.

So you're wrong on how you count the votes and you're wrong that Clinton has a "lot more votes". posted 05/05/2008 at 10:56:52
"now know that America (the country that I love) is not ready for a Black president despite the polls."

I and a lot of other people disagree strongly. If, as you claim, you really hope for a black president why would you give up on Obama so easily? I suspect you are hiding your support of Clinton or McCain, in an attempt to strengthen your argument that Obama is unelectable. In short you are flying false colors. posted 05/05/2008 at 09:20:48

Clinton Camp Says It Will Use The Nuclear Option

Based on your history of posts, it's pretty clear to me that you want the weakest candidate to win the nomination. posted 05/04/2008 at 18:06:33
Please explain how Obama suppressed them? Both states refused to fund a re-vote even though their respective legislatures caused the problem. And how could Obama or any fair-mined person agree to seat MI based on their uncontested primary?

IMO, the reality is that Clinton didn't want a re-vote because she doesn't have the funds to contest two big states like FL and MI. Instead, she did and still is shooting for having both states seated based on the invalidated primaries. posted 05/04/2008 at 18:04:55
We've definitely stepped through the looking glass.

Even if one ignores the fact that MI and FL broke the rules; even if you ignore the fact that neither candidate campaigned; how can any plausible argument be made that the results MI could stand when Clinton was the only viable candidate on the ballot?

The day the party makes the decision to seat MI as currently constituted will be an even darker day than the Bush v. Gore decision by the Supreme Court. posted 05/04/2008 at 17:59:52

Clinton Gas Tax Holiday: Hillary Attacks Economists

I think Clinton and McCain's gas tax holiday proposal will be a significant advantage to Obama.

Average Americans in both parties clearly understand that a gas tax holiday is election year pandering that does not address the real economic issues. The fact that neither Clinton or McCain has introduced any legislation reinforces that.

But even more important is that Obama's reaction to the proposed tax holiday is an object lesson on what hemeans when he says he does not intend to do politics as usual. And it is further evidence that his view of Americans is different than most politicians. He regards them as adults with common sense rather than children to be tempted with candy. posted 05/05/2008 at 09:00:12

Howard Dean On Fox News Sunday: Your Coverage Is "Shockingly Biased" (VIDEO)

How much analysis does it take for a news person to conclude that 4-5 drums of stuff labled "Insecticide" stored in a compound used by the Iraqi Agricultural Ministry is most likely .... insecticide? Hint: You don't store an incredibly toxic material like Saren in ordinary petrochemical drums.

Come on... Fox was extremely pro-invasion from the start and wanted WMD's to be found as much as Bush. When this "find" occured they let their political desire obliterate their responsibility for accurate reporting. If that isn't bias then what is it? posted 05/04/2008 at 22:01:45
Iran doesn't have a nuke. They are years away. They are even more years away from having a miniaturized nuke that would fit on a rocket. I'm not even sure they have a rocket that could reach Israel.

So why are Hillary, McCain and Bush making noises about defending Israel from a non-existent threat? All that talk of striking Iran will accomplish is make it even more impossible to negotiate with them on important issues that are here and now like Iraq.

So why are Clinton, McCain and Bush talking "obliteration"? Because they think it helps them win elections, that's why. posted 05/04/2008 at 19:38:33
While there are many instances one could point to to demonstrate Fox News bias, this is a favorite that I saw back in April 2003 during the invasion...

Fox stopped their normal programming to breathlessly announce that elements of the 101st division had found a depot of chemical weapons. Their embedded reporter was showing shots of a trench with 3-4 55-gallon drums in a compund they said belonged the Iraqi argriculture ministry. They said that sensor had given positive indications of a nerve agent from the drums. While the reporter and anchor are talking on and on about Saddam's WMD's and such, the cameraman moves in for a close-up of the barrels. It has labels in Arabic on one side with a skull and crossed bones. The camera moves to the other side and there is a label in English saying "Insecticide" as clear as day.

The reporter and the anchor guy kept on talking for another 10 minutes about how this could be the first WMD find of what would probably be many more. They didn't even mention the Insecticide label. (For those not familiar, insecticide is really just a much weaker version of the Sarin nerve agent and, so, will trigger a sensor.)

The next day the military said is wasn't a WMD find but did Fox ever once acknowledge their mistake? No. posted 05/04/2008 at 19:31:46

Operation Anti-Chaos: The Narrative on "White Voters" Is Fiction

The only pundit on any of the cable news networks that I have heard talk rationally about how the numbers work re voters and delegates is Todd on MSNBC. He has said for a long time that Obama has the nomination barring some tremendous revelation. And he says the only reason Clinton is hanging on is because she is hoping for that event. Clinton probably thought that Rev. Wright, along with the media's incredible focus on him, might be her path to the nomination but the polls are indicating otherwise. posted 05/03/2008 at 20:11:10
The summer is traditionally when ratings drop to their lowest and, as a result, ad revenues do also. The cable news channels would love to have a Dem nominee drama to talk about from now until August to increase ratings during the summer doldrums.

I am not one who believes that the MSM (Fox excluded) has an idealogical bias toward any candidate or party. But I do believe they have a clear bias toward profitability. posted 05/03/2008 at 20:01:25
Limbaugh's Operation Chaos is a fiction of his own inflated ego. I heard Limbaugh claim on Friday that the millions of Repubs that have crossed over to vote in the Dem primaries will all end up voting for McCain in the general election. That, of course, is wishful thinking.

Before the OH and TX primaries, about 60-65% crossover voters were going for Obama. In the TX primary, which is when Limbaugh started his spew, slightly over 50% went for Obama. One has to believe that a fair number of moderate Republican women who voted for Clinton did it for gender reasons. My guess is that AT MOST, Limbaugh's Operation Chaos has meant 100,000 votes in TX, OH, and PA combined. It may have shifted two or three delegates to Clinton's column but it hasn't had any significant effect on the race. posted 05/03/2008 at 19:55:13

The Question of Hillary Clinton's Guilt-By-Association Tactics

Your post contains more contradictions and illogical statements per word than I have seen in a long time.

"Obama is not guilty by association, he is guilty of bad judgment."

So Obama is not guilty by association but he is guilty of having this association? An illogical distinction without a difference.

"But any rational person can see there is a difference between defending criminals and allowing them to be your political mentors. "

Someone holds a fundraiser for Obama and now they are his political mentors? How does that happen.

"It is not a crime to know or to be a communist. Hillary always worked with in the law and there is nothing wrong with defending the Black Panthers. "

All quite true. So please explain to me the crime in making the acquaintance of a former left-wing activist that was never convicted of any crime after what I assure you was a very vigerous investigation and prosecution by the Nixon administration? posted 05/04/2008 at 07:17:39
"And we, as voters, have a right to know about the choices he has made, and the associations he formed. "

What this says is that you believe that any person exposed to a political idea or idealogy is forever linked to it, no matter what. What an absurd and anti-democratic notion. One of the pillars of our democracy is that ideas have free access to the marketplace of ideas and all who wish to can hear, consider, and accept of reject them.

Clinton clearly listened to and considered the ideas of the extreme and sometimes violent left in the 60's and 70's. Does the fact that she did mean she accepted them? Clearly her actions over a lifetime say that she did not.

Obama probably heard and considered some of Rev. Wright's more extreme social and political views. Does that mean he accepted them? He has clearly said no and as far as I know there is not a shred of evidence anywhere in his record to indicate that he did.

So if you want to convict Obama on his associations, go ahead. But keep in mind that you are destroying a little bit of what makes America Amercia when you do so. Is winning a political contest worth it? posted 05/04/2008 at 07:06:11

Defection Of Longtime Superdelegate Jolts Clinton

The professional politicians that are the super delegates know more than what you wrote (or copied). It is true that, like Gore and Kerry, Clinton has to win at least two of three among FL, PA and OH to win the general. Neither Gore nor Kerry could do it.

It is also true that an Obama candidacy changes the electoral map because he can substitute other states for any one of the big swing states - CO, MO, WI, IW, VA. Clinton cannot put those states into play. Or Obama, with his track record of closing polling gaps when he campaigns, has the possibility to win two of three.

Options are a good thing. posted 05/01/2008 at 21:00:28

Michigan's Fake Primary Produced Fake Results

A re-vote in MI is a pointless exercise. Whether Obama or Clinton wins, it would be by a fairly narrow margin and change the current delegate count difference by no more than a handful. It would not materially change the current situation. A re-vote makes no sense. posted 05/02/2008 at 17:14:14

Five Years Ago: How the Media Gushed Over "Mission Accomplished"

It takes a really warped perspective to see any relationship whatsoever between Obama and Bush. posted 05/01/2008 at 20:44:50

Behind The Scenes Of The Obama-Wright Split

If Wright goes public again saying negative things about Obama then he will move himself from the mere "crazy uncle" category to the downright "mean and vindictive" category. That will actually benefit Obama. posted 05/01/2008 at 17:36:51

DNC Chairman Under Bill Clinton: Unite Behind Obama

"Wright lost the whites."

Then please explain to me why Obama is polling around 50% of the Dem voters in Indiana even though we've had two weeks of 24/7 Wright on the news channels. I don't know exactly what percent of Indiana Dems are white but I assure you they are the vast majority. posted 05/01/2008 at 14:08:16
Andrew is obviously well-connected in the party and DNC. His backing of Obama tells me that the Clinton's once-substantial power within the DNC and the party is perceived to be on the wane. I suspect that other uncommitted super delegates who favor Obama but have been reluctant to stick a finger in Clinton's eye for fear of retribution by will start coming out now. posted 05/01/2008 at 13:46:50

Kerry Rips MSNBC On Wright: 'You People Need To Let Go Of This'

You might want to try using your own powers of analysis and depend less on repeating Rush's daily spew. Even Clinton herself and her surrogates have been rather quiet of the Wright thing for the past week. Only the media and the wingnuts on the radio are continuing to pursue it. posted 04/30/2008 at 18:57:08
Yep, I overlooked him. posted 04/30/2008 at 18:53:43
They will use it but it will only serve as red meat to energize the right wing of their base. It will cost them among independents. posted 04/30/2008 at 18:51:11
I get the strong sense that the ONLY people who want to talk about Wright are:
- The media because its easy to fill time with it.
- The extreme right minority who fear a black man in the White House and feel comforted when they talk about Wright.
- And a diehard minority of Clinton supporters who see the issue as their last hope. posted 04/30/2008 at 18:42:21

Obama and Wright - The Real Lesson

Religion and the state have been related since religion and human organization began. There is an automatic opportunity for a quid pro quo between religions and states. States have physical power and religions have moral power. But both have the need to be dominant among their people. That's where the quid pro quo comes in. If religion pursuades the people of the rightness of the state's authority then the state makes sure that religion is exclusive or at least dominant to the point of using its force.

Both sides must be cynical to make the quid pro quo work. Religion sometimes has to warp their faith to bless the state's actions. The state sometimes have to wage dumb wars to support religion. But with a true believer on either side, the agreement falls apart. Usually violence ensues.

Our founding fathers recognized the cynicism and problems that is naturally part of state-sponsored religion. They didn't like it. They separated church and state. That separation has mostly held. The state-religion quid pro quo did creep back during the Prohibition era. The state recognized the error and fixed it fairly quickly.

Now we have a new quid pro quo whereby leaders use religion, probably cynically, to gain control of the reins of state. Based on the results (the Bush administration) of that reapproachmant so far, it hasn't worked too well either. Hopefully history will repeat and we'll correct that too. posted 04/30/2008 at 18:28:52

Obama's Reverend Wright Press Conference (VIDEO)

So I guess we should impeach every government official that is still a Catholic. Clearly the fact that they remain in the Church means that they approve of pedophilia and the cover-up. posted 04/30/2008 at 08:55:59
Ca you show me one shred of evidence that Obama shares Wright's social and political views?

Does merely hearing an idea from another, if Obama actually did, somehow pollute one's mind?

Ever hear of McCarthyism? posted 04/30/2008 at 08:48:57
"He must have shared the Ideas He stayed?"

Do you have one shred of evidence that Obama shares Wright's crackpot social theories? If staying in a church means that you accept everything about if then I guess all the Catholics that remain are OK with priest pedophilia. posted 04/30/2008 at 07:19:44
Nah. Dogs just think they rule the universe. Cats KNOW they run ut. posted 04/30/2008 at 07:14:35
Clearly no one can point to a single quote or action by Obama that even hints that he might share any of the extreme opinions that are attributed to Rev. Wright. So I gather the charge against Obama is that he tacitly approved of Wright's opinions by attending his church.

That being the case, I guess all Catholics who have remained with the church approve of priest pedophilia and the cover-ups enacted by bishops and cardinals. posted 04/29/2008 at 16:24:50
I think you have it backward.

It appears to me that Rev. Wright threw Obama under the bus. I'm not sure why he did it but he, Wright, had to know that even putting himself into the spotloght now, much less repeating some of his more controversial beliefs to the national media, had to be a negative for Obama's campaign. posted 04/29/2008 at 14:50:05

America May Owe Reverend Wright a Debt of Gratitude

I agree with you that if Obama is elected president, that event alone will take America well down the road that Jones commends Rev. Wright for fighting for. So I think Rev. Wright is in this instance damaging his own cause and damaging Obama too.

But I don't agree with you at all that Wright's recent speeches have killed Obama's chances of winning the nomination or winning the general election. By November, the Wright affair will be a distant echo to all but the fringe right and talk radio. posted 04/28/2008 at 21:09:39

McCain Strongly Rejected Long-Term Iraq Presence: "Bring Them All Home"

"No Democrat will be able to use this "

You seem to have overlooked Obama. Clinton's flip-flop on the issue certainly wouldn't stop Obama from using it. posted 04/29/2008 at 06:31:40

Rev. Jeremiah Wright's Media Blitz Forces Barack Obama to Face the Angry Black Man Test -- Again

The absence of logic in the arguments that Obama critics make about Rev. Wright is glaring.

I gather that the critic's argument is this:
Wright is an anti-American fanatic, black racist, etc. and since Obama did not leave his church then it follows that Obama is joined at the hip with Wright's more extreme political and social views. That nothing can be found in Obama's record to indicate he shares those views only proves that he is a "stealth" candidate who is hiding those beliefs and we should all be very afraid.

Where the critic's logic falls apart is that if it were true that Obama and Wright are closely allied then Wright would have remained silent this past week or so because the Wright controversy story was dying. That clearly would have been the best thing for Obama's campaign. That Wright chose to speak out in the way he has and damage Obama's campaign is actually proof that he and Wright are not of the same mind politically.

And that proves what Obama has said many times, that Wright was Obama's spiritual leader but not his political ally. posted 04/29/2008 at 07:11:57

Howard Dean: Obama Or Clinton Must Drop Out In June

You brought up race, not me. So what is your point exactly? Because most blacks vote for Obama that makes any contest he might win less valid? Yeah, I thought so.

BTW, do you know what percentage of Catholics voted for JFK in 1960? Do you know what percentage of the Baptist vote Huckabee won? posted 04/28/2008 at 20:12:28
Why aren't we seeing the story that Obama leads Clinton nationally among Democrats by about 10 points? posted 04/28/2008 at 17:58:54
That's about how it will go and the sooner it happens, the better for everyone. Personally, I'd like to see it happen after NC and IN. posted 04/28/2008 at 17:56:48

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