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Completely unwatchable debate. I turned it off.

I also feel even more comfortable in my decision that I will not vote for Hillary if she wins the nomination. I am baffled by people who hold her up as representative of any liberal value.

I don't think people that relentlessly promote Hillary are any different from the people that relentlessly promote Bush.

Our political system has become a complete farce. posted 04/17/2008 at 00:11:16

Erica,

I happen to like Matt Taibbi. I admit, his numerous attacks on people's physical appearance may not be the most mature of actions, but I laugh anyway. Most of these people are more about their celebrity and power than they are about being any kind of public servant. He always skewers these people. Hillary Clinton is just another of these empty people and Matt treated her as such. It is your relentless defense of Hillary that is tiresome and predictable.

Your defense of Hillary is oddly shallow. You should vote for her because she is a good candidate and person, not because she doesn't have a penis (or, 'not because she isn't inflicted with a penis' if you like). As has been mentioned, I would love to vote for a woman president, this woman is not that candidate. My decision has nothing to do with genitalia.

I have found your posts to be beyond pretentious. I am a self-described liberal, yet I find most of what you say to be fairly obnoxious. I see much of your ideology to be that which I find myself arguing against. When I convince more conservative folks that all liberals don't sound like you, I usually have a much easier time getting them to listen to my ideas.

Get off you freaking soapbox. Your opinions are not that enlightened. posted 04/12/2008 at 12:59:00

Any country that would elect Hillary or McCain after the eight years we have just endured deserves to fail. A revolution becomes more likely with every passing day.

We screen out the decent people and are left with just the liars. American Democracy is a sham. Democracy for sale. posted 03/31/2008 at 15:12:31

Party leadership needs to cut these two loose. They aren't about helping anyone but themselves. posted 03/28/2008 at 20:14:33

Boy, do I ever agree with this. Well said! posted 03/28/2008 at 20:25:11

There are some remarkable issues being voiced here - Hillary is supported by NEW guard democrats???? That is ABSURD. Obama is clearly the candidate who is less entrenched in the DNC and DLC.

People complaining about not letting the primaries run their course - THEY HAVE. Numbers don't support Hillary remaining in the race. She is HURTING the party by remaining in it. Nobody is saying she CAN'T remain in the race, they are saying she SHOULDN'T remain in the race. She is being more about herself than about helping the party advance.

This primary is helping the candidates prepare for the general....???? - NO WAY. We are wasting money and time letting McCain skate. Hillary is sucking up fundraising dollars pursuing a presidency that she felt was her's. It is not panning out and she could be very useful in helping democrats in the elections rather than draining our resources.

It is time to get behind the legitimate and likely eventual nominee - Obama. For Hillary to win she'd have to use methods that could very well split the party and perhaps even destroy it. This coming general is one democrats have no business losing. If democrats don't win this election, they will cease to be at all relevant. posted 03/28/2008 at 19:20:59

This is a ridiculous post.

Frankly, if this were indicative of the rationale and rhetorical tactics being used to elect anyone for President, our country is already lost.

Personally, I don't want your vote. Democrats should not be trying to appeal to this. Go vote for a republican with good conscience. posted 03/28/2008 at 15:36:58

There are some remarkable issues being voiced here - Hillary is supported by NEW guard democrats???? That is ABSURD. Obama is clearly the candidate who is less entrenched in the DNC and DLC.

People complaining about not letting the primaries run their course - THEY HAVE. Numbers don't support Hillary remaining in the race. She is HURTING the party by remaining in it. Nobody is saying she CAN'T remain in the race, they are saying she SHOULDN'T remain in the race. She is being more about herself than about helping the party advance.

This primary is helping the candidates prepare for the general....???? - NO WAY. We are wasting money and time letting McCain skate. Hillary is sucking up fundraising dollars pursuing a presidency that she felt was her's. It is not panning out and she could be very useful in helping democrats in the elections rather than draining our resources.

It is time to get behind the legitimate and likely eventual nominee - Obama. For Hillary to win she'd have to use methods that could very well split the party and perhaps even destroy it. This coming general is one democrats have no business losing. If democrats don't win this election, they will cease to be at all relevant. posted 03/28/2008 at 14:35:44

A large segment of the American public is just plain ol' stupid. Unfortunately, many of those people tend to vote, and often times, against their self-interest. posted 03/28/2008 at 15:44:45

Bat-shit crazy..... You mean like a guy being dead for three days and then coming back to life? Or, the part about being born from a virgin??? Maybe it is the part about walking on water........

Religion is all bat-shit crazy at some level. If you are drawing distinction between crazy religious statements perhaps you should consider your own biases. posted 03/26/2008 at 10:45:22

Hillary is a disgusting candidate. I refuse to vote for her. Her policies are NOT those of 'the left' (as it should/used to be) and her tactics are the worst kind of Rovian slander. She and Bill are all for the Clintons and not for party at all. She WILL NOT WIN the general Not even her own party wants to give her the nomination. Do you know ONE republican, even moderate, that will vote for her. I do not.

I know many that plan on voting for Obama.

As an aside, I'd ask those using the Rev. Wright issue as a means to smear Obama if they have read what the man has said. I read a bunch of his most volatile quotes, and aside from the moronic one regarding AIDS, I don't think there is any 'there' there. I agreed with most of his quotes and didn't see much to get so worked up about. Consider that along with the fact that I don't believe in god and you can see that I don't have any religious agenda. He is just not that divisive of a figure aside from those trying to drum up some political issues. Completely manufactured and just more evidence that Hillary's campaign is increasingly desperate and pathetic.

You know, I didn't loathe Hillary before the campaign. She and Obama are not so titanically different policy-wise, but their demeanor in campaigning reveals something basic about their character - Hillary has none. posted 03/26/2008 at 10:40:43

Where is the NEXT idiot the Republicans will roll out? How much more insane can it get? posted 03/25/2008 at 10:43:15

The cornerstone of any democracy MUST be education. This education MUST be based upon HOW to think and not WHAT to think. A democracy can only function properly with an educated and critical-thinking population. Religion should play no part whatsoever in governance. Empirical date should factor highly in any economic policy. Non-intervention should factor highly in any adult social policy.

We have NONE of this.

The powers that be are interested in pumping out drones to perform meaningless jobs so that they can help create widgets that increasingly profit companies based offshore. Our politicians/salesmen/criminals have no loyalty to an uninformed public, but like The Matrix, see the consumer as the batteries to their own wealth and privilege. Until the stupid (by design) public starts voting for their best interests as a society, we will continue to spiral down the toilet. Self-interest also needs to take into account collective needs as we are a society (social structure). The kid down the street is less likely to rob you if he is educated and employable.

The idea that we would run the country like an American business is appalling. People that are drawn to money SHOULD NOT serve in public service. Helping fellow citizens should be reward in itself. posted 03/24/2008 at 13:33:53

I don't see that I mentioned anywhere in my post that I'd vote for McCain.

No - I WOULD NOT vote for Hillary, and I don't see her endorsing much that I care about. Why I believe her to be insidious is that she would act/speak as if she represented me while doing nothing politically to actually show it. McCain is awful, but at least he wouldn't declare himself the champion of issues which mean something to me while taking money from opposing interests and voting against issues he claimed to be for.

I don't love Obama, but I'll likely vote for him. posted 03/23/2008 at 13:21:19

I detest Clinton and his Presidency was a joke for the left. All he did was tax the richest amongst us. In EVERY other way he benefitted the right. It is no mystery why the democratic diminished greatly and lost its way during the Clinton years. Democrats made a deal with the Devil - the same deal that the Republicans had been making - Win at all cost regardless of the candidate, then prop up the reputation of the candidate after they are out of office.

Bill Clinton is a nothing. His 'legacy' is a joke to me, and my son will grow up seeing it for what it is. Those on the left who defend him lustily should actually do some research and ask themselves what his administration actually accomplished. His economy was somewhat caused by the tech bubble (smoke and mirrors - mostly Repub. adgenda), he vastly helped deregulation and corporate power, he moved manufacturing out of the U.S. with NAFTA. The only good thing he did was tax the top of the economic pie and I do give him credit for that. Overall, the only reason he looks good is because Bush is so titanically awful.

I will NOT vote for Hillary. Frankly I think her Presidency would be TERRIBLE for the U.S. and would likely mean the end of the Democratic party as remotely populist. I actually expect that in the next couple of elections we will see the elimination of the Republican Party (they will become fringe - religious), the movement of the Democratic Party will continue rightward and become conservative, and a new third party will become the viable 2nd party on the left. Progressives/liberals and left-center moderates have absolutely no horse in the race anymore. posted 03/22/2008 at 11:10:00