May 17, 2008
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MrWinky
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Clinton Protest Voters for McCain
Any woman who votes for McCain out of spite - I don't want to hear any moaning when Roe is overturned, you will be to blame. The death of every American soldier and innoccent Iraqi too. All because your feelings are hurt.
I truly believe that both sexes are and should be treated equal. The unfortunately reality of that is that sometimes the woman loses. The feminists I know don't want special rules b/c of gender. Which is why I doubt that they are truly concerned about FL and MI - which Hillary signed off on and McAuliffe voted for. At the time, she didn't even think she would need them. Saying they were stricken to hurt Hillary is a lie. They might be important in the GE, but it's different than arguing the election was rigged.
Caucuses undemocratic? Hillary made a decision to focus on primaries, thinking the caucuses irrelevant. She was wrong, and now they are "undemocratic." Bill won them, so again, does Hillary need special rules as she isn't up to the task her male husband completed? No. She is smart, tough and capable enough, she just made some incorrect strategic choices that cost her.
Let's not hide behind any fictional greater purpose, nothing was taken from Hillary, she just lost. Lost like the five male candidates before her. All this "movement" consists of is people who are too immature to deal with disappointment, and are willing to sacrifice all that they claimed to hold dear forspite. posted 05/16/2008 at 07:48:19
I truly believe that both sexes are and should be treated equal. The unfortunately reality of that is that sometimes the woman loses. The feminists I know don't want special rules b/c of gender. Which is why I doubt that they are truly concerned about FL and MI - which Hillary signed off on and McAuliffe voted for. At the time, she didn't even think she would need them. Saying they were stricken to hurt Hillary is a lie. They might be important in the GE, but it's different than arguing the election was rigged.
Caucuses undemocratic? Hillary made a decision to focus on primaries, thinking the caucuses irrelevant. She was wrong, and now they are "undemocratic." Bill won them, so again, does Hillary need special rules as she isn't up to the task her male husband completed? No. She is smart, tough and capable enough, she just made some incorrect strategic choices that cost her.
Let's not hide behind any fictional greater purpose, nothing was taken from Hillary, she just lost. Lost like the five male candidates before her. All this "movement" consists of is people who are too immature to deal with disappointment, and are willing to sacrifice all that they claimed to hold dear forspite. posted 05/16/2008 at 07:48:19
Obama Hamas Smear: Clinton Says It Shouldn't Be Taken Seriously
Hillary's defense of Obama kind of reminds me of Animal House, when Neidermeir was harrassing Flounder. "He can't do that to our pledges, only we can do that to our pledges." posted 05/14/2008 at 19:06:36
You Broke It, You Own It -- Obama Style
And what did you base your 1992 vote for Bill Clinton on? His decisions as Attorney General of tiny Arkansas? or his accmplishments as governor of that same state? Was it Arkansas being towards the end of lists like education, literacy, teen pregnancy? Didn't Bush has similar experience, in a bigger state? Give me a break. Bill was in the same boat when he ran, and none of Hillary's camp seems to bring that up. He did a fine job, so let's not act as if Obama's abilities are to be discounted.
It doesn't take any courage to sit there and make excuses, like Ms. Breitweiser. Anyone can do that. Courage is to put your personal feelings second and do what is best for the country. If you feel that is John McCain, then vote your conscience. Just remember all the experience that Cheney and Rummy brought to the table, didn't seem to help them.
Hillary, Rendell and Carville are already on the record saying they are going to go full blast for Obama if he is the nominee. So if they can do it, why are the rest of you sitting around nursing these pretend wounds? Grow up. posted 05/14/2008 at 15:14:48
It doesn't take any courage to sit there and make excuses, like Ms. Breitweiser. Anyone can do that. Courage is to put your personal feelings second and do what is best for the country. If you feel that is John McCain, then vote your conscience. Just remember all the experience that Cheney and Rummy brought to the table, didn't seem to help them.
Hillary, Rendell and Carville are already on the record saying they are going to go full blast for Obama if he is the nominee. So if they can do it, why are the rest of you sitting around nursing these pretend wounds? Grow up. posted 05/14/2008 at 15:14:48
And I thought it couldn't get more insane. Hillary, Barack, I know you got a lot of people to give you millions of dollars, but just blow that off so someone no one has voted for in this primary could take over. Let's not act like Gore is unbeatable. Sure, he has done some great things, but as Hillary and Bill can attest to, the rosy glow comes off once you step back in the ring. Dems have voted in the majority against the former President and his wife from the 90's, why would they want his VP instead? Like I said, Gore has done some nice things since office, but so has Bill. Didn't seem to help him much. posted 05/14/2008 at 15:04:04
I'd also have to say give me a break on the Hillary talking points.
1. Planning - Hillary didn't even have a plan for after SuperTuesday, so we should rely on her crack staff, at least the ones not already in exile. He already seems to be ahead of the game concerning the GE.
2. The War - Kerry's problem was that he was talking out of both sides of his mouth, like Hillary. You can't vote for the war and then run anti-war. Obama has been against it from the start.
3. Change - Sure, McCain talks change, but he wants the same old tax cuts, he wants to embrace the religious right, he wants to continue the war, he wants the same justices as Roberts/Alito. Doesn't sound like change to me.
4. Elitism - Is all smoke and mirrors. Clinton has (and has always had) more money than Obama, and other than a short stint aiding families, has been part of corporate America. They may be able to paint him as elitist, but as with Hillary's attacks on the issue, it won't be based on fact.
5. Experience - While better than nothing, let's quit acting like first lady is the same as being President. If we made the same argument about Laura or Barbara Bush, we'd be laughed off the stage. Obama doesn't have tons of experience, but neither does Clinton.
Yeah, we know what we're getting with Hillary, and last time I checked the polls, most posted 05/14/2008 at 14:45:45
1. Planning - Hillary didn't even have a plan for after SuperTuesday, so we should rely on her crack staff, at least the ones not already in exile. He already seems to be ahead of the game concerning the GE.
2. The War - Kerry's problem was that he was talking out of both sides of his mouth, like Hillary. You can't vote for the war and then run anti-war. Obama has been against it from the start.
3. Change - Sure, McCain talks change, but he wants the same old tax cuts, he wants to embrace the religious right, he wants to continue the war, he wants the same justices as Roberts/Alito. Doesn't sound like change to me.
4. Elitism - Is all smoke and mirrors. Clinton has (and has always had) more money than Obama, and other than a short stint aiding families, has been part of corporate America. They may be able to paint him as elitist, but as with Hillary's attacks on the issue, it won't be based on fact.
5. Experience - While better than nothing, let's quit acting like first lady is the same as being President. If we made the same argument about Laura or Barbara Bush, we'd be laughed off the stage. Obama doesn't have tons of experience, but neither does Clinton.
Yeah, we know what we're getting with Hillary, and last time I checked the polls, most posted 05/14/2008 at 14:45:45
I got a better idea, how about if Obama loses, we come looking for you. Yeah, that's right, what the Hell is the matter with you? I understand you support Hillary, and I understand you're upset that it looks like she will not prevail. But if he is the Dem nominee, who are you to sit back there and whimper and cry and write prissy little articles? Get out and do something.
If you really care about pro-choice, health care, the working class, the poor and all those things that Hillary stands for, why would you not fully support the only remaining candidate that gives a fig for those issues. Because I can tell you right now McCain doesn't. Hillary supporters aren't refusing to back Obama b/c of experience, they are refusing to do it b/c their feelings are hurt. I understand it, I would feel the same way, but at some point you have to get over it. Your own candidate says you would be crazy not to vote Dem should she not get the nomination.
We were all united before the primary began, and Obama supporters need Hillary's contingency to win the general election, but I am sick and tired with this black mail being held over my head. You need to do something too, and if Obama loses, believe me, it won't be b/c I didn't give and support his compaign. The only person you will have to blame is yourself. posted 05/14/2008 at 14:35:23
If you really care about pro-choice, health care, the working class, the poor and all those things that Hillary stands for, why would you not fully support the only remaining candidate that gives a fig for those issues. Because I can tell you right now McCain doesn't. Hillary supporters aren't refusing to back Obama b/c of experience, they are refusing to do it b/c their feelings are hurt. I understand it, I would feel the same way, but at some point you have to get over it. Your own candidate says you would be crazy not to vote Dem should she not get the nomination.
We were all united before the primary began, and Obama supporters need Hillary's contingency to win the general election, but I am sick and tired with this black mail being held over my head. You need to do something too, and if Obama loses, believe me, it won't be b/c I didn't give and support his compaign. The only person you will have to blame is yourself. posted 05/14/2008 at 14:35:23
Superdelegates Under the Desk
That's true, the Hyde Park Dems, who live in a lifestyle like which Hillary has known her entire life, are educated, and realize that voting because someone is both a Muslim and has a crazy Christian pastor just doesn't make sense.
Let's stop treating West Virginia like it is some sort of vaunted think tank. Given a black man or a woman to vote for, they are most likely going to be attracted to the white guy. posted 05/14/2008 at 08:36:30
Let's stop treating West Virginia like it is some sort of vaunted think tank. Given a black man or a woman to vote for, they are most likely going to be attracted to the white guy. posted 05/14/2008 at 08:36:30
I love the argument that Hillary is such a shoe-in during the general election when she cannot even win a contest restricted mostly to the Democratic party base. I assume this is based upon her huge popularity with people outside the Democratic party?
Face it, it is the Dems that love her, and she is losing that contest. It will only get uglier once the rest of the public is let in.
Obama needs Hillary voters, but by the same token, Hillary is going nowhere if the black or youth vote is discounted. Let's just stick with the outcome of the Dem primary. Any other metric discounts some obvious truths. posted 05/14/2008 at 08:32:52
Face it, it is the Dems that love her, and she is losing that contest. It will only get uglier once the rest of the public is let in.
Obama needs Hillary voters, but by the same token, Hillary is going nowhere if the black or youth vote is discounted. Let's just stick with the outcome of the Dem primary. Any other metric discounts some obvious truths. posted 05/14/2008 at 08:32:52
We may need to relax. On the same day she may have garnered 10 delegates from WV, Obama got 5 supers. The slow trickle may only be due to the wish to appease her supporters (who we need) and not necessarily her or Bill. posted 05/14/2008 at 08:26:53
I think there is a lot of wisdom in the saying, "Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line..." Certainly, this is another glowing example of Democratic politician spinelessness. However, in their defense, if they are planning to stay on the sidelines in an attempt to pacify the Clinton supporters by showing they were willing to give her a full shot, then that is fine with me. I will not feel the same way if after Puerto Rico (June 4th) we are still waiting on them. posted 05/14/2008 at 08:23:54
McCain and the Courts
Again, you are point to "establish" as if the framers intended only one meaning: the meaning which you give it and you want to look at absolutely nothing else. In your mind, the only way to properly word it would have been, "...establish, associate, adopt, support, sponsor, assume, promote, allocate, market, endorse...." only every other possible outcome. Which is a ludicrous expectation of men who authored this over 200 years ago.
Or rather you could look at the intent and say, "the creators had fled a country (or countries) where religion played too large a role in government. The amount of participation in that government, or whether you were persecuted by that government, depended upon your compliance with that one religion. Therefore, church and government should be separate." So rather than have the government "establish" a religion that we all have to follow, it can Constitutionally decide "Hey, we really like the Baptist Church, we choose to "associate" with it and that may have some consequences down the line for non-Baptists..." posted 05/14/2008 at 08:02:55
Or rather you could look at the intent and say, "the creators had fled a country (or countries) where religion played too large a role in government. The amount of participation in that government, or whether you were persecuted by that government, depended upon your compliance with that one religion. Therefore, church and government should be separate." So rather than have the government "establish" a religion that we all have to follow, it can Constitutionally decide "Hey, we really like the Baptist Church, we choose to "associate" with it and that may have some consequences down the line for non-Baptists..." posted 05/14/2008 at 08:02:55
Well, the problem with that is that the Constitution doesn't really say that much. Like McCain, you don't really seem to grasp Constructionalist or Originalist thought. Even these two schools use outside materials to shape and justify their decisions, such as the Federalist Papers. posted 05/14/2008 at 07:53:39
That is why originalism fails, b/c it does not address the obvious conflicts it creates. Thus, you are saying someone who is convicted of raping 1,000 six year olds by the Constitution is not allowed to be punished in a cruel and unusual manner, yet someone merely alleged to be a terrorist, whether true or not, could be roasted alive on a spit. Originalists assume that the framers purposely used the word punishment as signifying their intent that you could commit attrocities on a person in government custody depended on your intent in committing the atrocity. Anyone involved in the drafting of law knows that the eventual problem will be situations that had not been foreseen in the law, or intent being garnered out of a statute based upon the particular selection of words. Really, this deals more with Scalia's political views rather than his judicial review, or is it just coincidence that his originalism always seems to come to conclusions which support his political allies?
The more honest approach would be:
We presume people to be innoccent until proven guilty;
We forbid cruel treatment of even those that are found to be guilty;
Thus, all person in custody for whatever reason are protected from cruel and unusual punishment. posted 05/14/2008 at 07:47:18
The more honest approach would be:
We presume people to be innoccent until proven guilty;
We forbid cruel treatment of even those that are found to be guilty;
Thus, all person in custody for whatever reason are protected from cruel and unusual punishment. posted 05/14/2008 at 07:47:18
Well put, it is another Republican term which they have empowered, while at the same time villifying judges' decisions who they don't agree with as something nefarious or "activist."
The most telling part of the constructionist or originalist fraud can be found in one of its founding members words. Scalia once put down judicial review outside of his own as being frivilous because these judges could go home happy after making a decision based upon their politics because it turned out that "...the Constitution means what I thought it meant."
The only difference with originalism is sheer cowardice, that the author doesn't even have the fortitude to put his name on it and say this is his opinion. Rather, originalists can go home happy because it turned out that, "...the Constitution means what I said Thomas Jefferson thought it meant." Whether you decide the outcome based upon your interpretation of the Constitution or your interpretation of the framers of the Constitution, you still run the risk of voting your beliefs rather than the law. To assert otherwise is just foolish. posted 05/14/2008 at 07:32:44
The most telling part of the constructionist or originalist fraud can be found in one of its founding members words. Scalia once put down judicial review outside of his own as being frivilous because these judges could go home happy after making a decision based upon their politics because it turned out that "...the Constitution means what I thought it meant."
The only difference with originalism is sheer cowardice, that the author doesn't even have the fortitude to put his name on it and say this is his opinion. Rather, originalists can go home happy because it turned out that, "...the Constitution means what I said Thomas Jefferson thought it meant." Whether you decide the outcome based upon your interpretation of the Constitution or your interpretation of the framers of the Constitution, you still run the risk of voting your beliefs rather than the law. To assert otherwise is just foolish. posted 05/14/2008 at 07:32:44
Open Letter to Bill Clinton
And let's not forget her story of the Tuzla Tigress. Yeah, the Republicans aren't licking their chops on that one.
Or her discounting of black people and their vote. "Hey, we Republicans had the first black NSA director, and 2 black secretaries of state. The Clintons will pander to you, and then nominate a black HUD director, if you are lucky. Who do you love?"
Or her lie with the Indiana magnet factory closing.
Plus all the things which she tried to seem conservative on - guns, religion, etc., they are going to laugh her out of town. posted 05/11/2008 at 18:36:31
Or her discounting of black people and their vote. "Hey, we Republicans had the first black NSA director, and 2 black secretaries of state. The Clintons will pander to you, and then nominate a black HUD director, if you are lucky. Who do you love?"
Or her lie with the Indiana magnet factory closing.
Plus all the things which she tried to seem conservative on - guns, religion, etc., they are going to laugh her out of town. posted 05/11/2008 at 18:36:31
The problem with your plea is that it may rest on the assumption that Hillary is consumed with winning and Bill is reasonable. The reality is that both the Clintons are absorbed in themselves, and this loss shakes the very foundation of their core beliefs - that they are the best suited to lead the country, that the country and the party are nothing without them, and that they must save us from ourselves in making this decision.
I appreciate your efforts, but the chances to convince Bill to aid a candidate that has been widely held as a great orator, the golden boy, and an unmatchable fund raiser faces a lot of obstacles. Mostly, Bill's coveting those titles for himself. Sadly, I think this is going to end very badly for the Clintons, and my hope is that they don't take down the rest of us with them. posted 05/11/2008 at 18:19:56
I appreciate your efforts, but the chances to convince Bill to aid a candidate that has been widely held as a great orator, the golden boy, and an unmatchable fund raiser faces a lot of obstacles. Mostly, Bill's coveting those titles for himself. Sadly, I think this is going to end very badly for the Clintons, and my hope is that they don't take down the rest of us with them. posted 05/11/2008 at 18:19:56
Hillary Rodham Clinton: CEO
We've already had the "CEO Presidency" with Bush and Cheney. You want more of that? posted 05/11/2008 at 16:02:24
Barack Obama's Campaign is Losing its Bearings
I agree. The saddest part is that McCain wants to have it both ways. He doesn't even have the sack to just say it, but he has to qualify with "Uh, yeah, I don't believe it has anything to do with Obama, but he still said it...."
If you don't think that Obama believes in Hamas, or will aid Hamas, then why make the scummy remark? That is what is called integrity, foregoing an action which would benefit you b/c the nature of the act is wrong. posted 05/10/2008 at 20:24:45
If you don't think that Obama believes in Hamas, or will aid Hamas, then why make the scummy remark? That is what is called integrity, foregoing an action which would benefit you b/c the nature of the act is wrong. posted 05/10/2008 at 20:24:45
With all due respect, I think that it is not Obama who has let McCain frame the discussion, but rather it is McCain who has framed your reaction. The comment by Obama was not ageist, but rather a reference to the 180 that McCain has done concerning his positions.
I think the crux of this election is not Obama's ability to deal with a debate on the issues, or on reaching voters, but on whether the media can likewise adapt. When he started, he had huge success and whipped out win after win, many of them by huge numbers. Then some of the tougher states came up, and the media decided that the theme would be that Obama was too weak and had to fight Hillary. Listening to this, Obama got down in the mud with her, and the results weren't pretty. Once he stopped, then we have the results in NC and IN.
Basically, YOU'RE going to have to decide if you have the courage to not let the Republicans frame the issue for you. When McCain stoops in the mud and makes a comment that Obama would be good for Hamas, and then Obama replies, you really have two choices:
The old school media: OBAMA AND MCCAIN TRADE BARBS - MCCAIN GETS THE BEST OF IT.
or
OBAMA POINTS TO MCCAIN'S ABANDONMENT OF PROMISE TO RUN DIFFERENT CAMPAIGN.
Do you really want to stick with your original assessment. posted 05/10/2008 at 20:20:37
I think the crux of this election is not Obama's ability to deal with a debate on the issues, or on reaching voters, but on whether the media can likewise adapt. When he started, he had huge success and whipped out win after win, many of them by huge numbers. Then some of the tougher states came up, and the media decided that the theme would be that Obama was too weak and had to fight Hillary. Listening to this, Obama got down in the mud with her, and the results weren't pretty. Once he stopped, then we have the results in NC and IN.
Basically, YOU'RE going to have to decide if you have the courage to not let the Republicans frame the issue for you. When McCain stoops in the mud and makes a comment that Obama would be good for Hamas, and then Obama replies, you really have two choices:
The old school media: OBAMA AND MCCAIN TRADE BARBS - MCCAIN GETS THE BEST OF IT.
or
OBAMA POINTS TO MCCAIN'S ABANDONMENT OF PROMISE TO RUN DIFFERENT CAMPAIGN.
Do you really want to stick with your original assessment. posted 05/10/2008 at 20:20:37
Analysis: Democrats quietly send word to Clinton it's over
I'll do it for him.
"Attention everyone: It was Hillary who lied to voters and tried to quell the Canadians. To cover her tracks, she lied about Obama and tried to hang it on him. In her defense, she did it only b/c she believes she is entitled to be President, and that she cannot tell the truth if her life depended on it. Sorry for the interuption, please continue with what you were doing." posted 05/08/2008 at 20:35:10
"Attention everyone: It was Hillary who lied to voters and tried to quell the Canadians. To cover her tracks, she lied about Obama and tried to hang it on him. In her defense, she did it only b/c she believes she is entitled to be President, and that she cannot tell the truth if her life depended on it. Sorry for the interuption, please continue with what you were doing." posted 05/08/2008 at 20:35:10
Clinton: Obama Not Winning Over "Hard-Working Americans, White Americans"
That's nice. I have absolutely no chance of winning, so let's get racial. Ah, the legacy of slime continues.
I, Hillary Clinton, have a broad base, uneducated white people. It is so broad, that I'm behind 150 delegates. posted 05/08/2008 at 11:27:51
I, Hillary Clinton, have a broad base, uneducated white people. It is so broad, that I'm behind 150 delegates. posted 05/08/2008 at 11:27:51
Hillary Will Drop Out by June 15
Not quite. Bowing out would be an admission of losing, which she did. Facing reality doesn't make up for months of saying the opponent is more qualified than your Democratic colleague, labeling you "elitist", a liar, etc. posted 05/07/2008 at 14:54:58
Paying off Clinton's debts is kind of like being asked who wants to be the last person to die in Vietnam. If I am a donor, why would I want to give money so Hillary can pay off her bill to Mark Penn and repay her own loan?
So being in the campaign and throwing mud at your opponent for another month when you have absolutely no chance of winning, thus putting off a reconciliation with MI and FL and encouraging the supers to go against its base is Hillary being reasonable. Oooookkayyy..... posted 05/07/2008 at 14:52:21
So being in the campaign and throwing mud at your opponent for another month when you have absolutely no chance of winning, thus putting off a reconciliation with MI and FL and encouraging the supers to go against its base is Hillary being reasonable. Oooookkayyy..... posted 05/07/2008 at 14:52:21
Terry McAuliffe Has Become Baghdad Bob
Great analogy, the only problem is that I kinda liked listening to Bagdhad Bob, Hillary makes me throw up in my mouth.
What ever happened to that guy? posted 05/06/2008 at 22:14:54
What ever happened to that guy? posted 05/06/2008 at 22:14:54
McCain Didn't Need to Rap Obama to Relax Evangelicals
Your right, that was pretty scummy. And when it comes to sleazy, insincere, backstabbing unfair and dishonest attacks on Obama, no one is more qualified to spot them than Earl. posted 05/06/2008 at 20:43:14
Michigan's Fake Primary Produced Fake Results
There was no rule to remove the names, just common practice dating back to the 80's. However, nobody is complaining that she left her name on the ballot. The problem is that she left her name on the ballot and now says the election should be counted. If she had left it on and stuck with her original promise that it would not count, nobody would be saying anything right now. posted 05/01/2008 at 23:31:47
Considering Clinton barely had a majority running against herself, I don't think anyone was scared of her. It's quite apparent she has pretty pathetic support there. Hillary, is the one who opposed the only viable revote plan, b/c it didn't allow her to cheat and disenfranchise voters. Please tell you're really not this dim. posted 05/01/2008 at 23:27:50
I see that gayleg is as allergic to the truth as the candidate he supports. You will be very happy together, and Clinton will have a lot of time on her hands very soon. posted 05/01/2008 at 23:24:08
McAuliffe threatened the same thing when he was head of the DNC, and again MI was the offender. This time around, McAuliffe voted for stripping them of their delegates. So let's not put this all on Dean. There was a whole committee that voted on this, and it was their vote that decided to strip both states. posted 05/01/2008 at 23:22:20
Good catch, but even still, the point stands that Hillary blocked the vote b/c she couldn't rig the election, but then proceeded to lie (again) that Obama was disenfranchising MI.
Quite the candidate there.
Election where nobody else runs by agreement but you - totally fair
Election where everyone would get to run and vote - totally unfair
I really can see the attraction, she's quite the catch posted 05/01/2008 at 23:19:34
Quite the candidate there.
Election where nobody else runs by agreement but you - totally fair
Election where everyone would get to run and vote - totally unfair
I really can see the attraction, she's quite the catch posted 05/01/2008 at 23:19:34
No, the point is that people, unlike Hillary, understood the rules and reacted to them. Meaning, in an open primary, some of them voted Republican to influence that primary b/c they were told by all, INCLUDING HILLARY, that their vote would not matter.
You can't argue out of one side of your mouth about disenfranchisement, and then exclude all of the ones who would have voted in that primary except for the representation that it didn't count. News for you gayleg, everyone was eligible to vote in either primary, so it would be no different that the original race. Clinton, as always, wanted to stack the deck while lying about fairness and due process. posted 05/01/2008 at 23:16:42
You can't argue out of one side of your mouth about disenfranchisement, and then exclude all of the ones who would have voted in that primary except for the representation that it didn't count. News for you gayleg, everyone was eligible to vote in either primary, so it would be no different that the original race. Clinton, as always, wanted to stack the deck while lying about fairness and due process. posted 05/01/2008 at 23:16:42
Dude, Gayleg knows, he looked it up in his gut, and for accuracy, crossed checked it with Terry McAuliffe.
Must have been the same for Carter and Kennedy too. Again - see public knowledge.
Since Clinton is the only one that didn't do it, I'm sure her reasons were completely pure, she is such a saint. posted 05/01/2008 at 23:13:00
Must have been the same for Carter and Kennedy too. Again - see public knowledge.
Since Clinton is the only one that didn't do it, I'm sure her reasons were completely pure, she is such a saint. posted 05/01/2008 at 23:13:00
First of all, he didn't "stop the vote." The fact is that the MI legislature never provided one for either the DNC, Obama, or Clinton to consider. Because he has a brain, and is actually concerned about the party as well as himself, he did express doubt as to whether it would be legal (which it most likely wasn't,as they were going to excluse all those who had not voted in the first -who stayed home b/c they were told it would not count) To do this would have violated MI law, and there would have been lawsuits by anyone who didn't vote and said they would have. Gee, you don't think a Republican would do that, would you?
Then, rather than have the primary continue until Hillary's ego was satisfied, it would have had to continue until the court decided if the contest was legal or not. In the end, it could have very well thrown out the whole thing. So, once again, Hillary was just looking for chaos so she could try to help herself, rather than to abide by the rules all agreed to. posted 05/01/2008 at 23:10:00
Then, rather than have the primary continue until Hillary's ego was satisfied, it would have had to continue until the court decided if the contest was legal or not. In the end, it could have very well thrown out the whole thing. So, once again, Hillary was just looking for chaos so she could try to help herself, rather than to abide by the rules all agreed to. posted 05/01/2008 at 23:10:00
...and if that is true, then we will will have one Hillary Clinton to thank for it, as she is the only candidate that has worked so hard to whip those consituencies into a frenzy despite her campaign manager's vote to strip MI of its delegates and her agreement that MI and FL did not count. By why worry about causing a problem for your party when you could possibly gain from it? posted 05/01/2008 at 23:02:28
Superdelegate Silence Speaks For Clinton
It is actually funny, when she spouts her "fight the power" stuff, b/c she acts as if the powers that be are some evil merger of special interests/corporate CEO's/Republicans, when it's actually people in her own party that have supported her in the past. I keep waiting for someone to response when she screams "they won't keep me down!" with "uh..dude...it's your own party...." posted 05/01/2008 at 19:04:09
I'm Just Sayin': Open Letter to Superdelegates
slipping away? She won one state, hey, great for her, but even in his worst 2 week period, he is still hanging in there. At a time when Clinton needs to be taking 6 to 7 out of 10 superdelegates, she's not even getting a majority. We all know what type of returns she is going to need to get ahead in delegates, and we all know its not going to happen. I just don't understand the rational for her staying in, but I'll tell you, I wish Al Gore had this kind of tenacity back in 2000.
You may be right, that America doesn't like the man they are finally getting to know, but looking at the voting, they seem to like him more than the lady they already know. posted 05/01/2008 at 18:55:25
You may be right, that America doesn't like the man they are finally getting to know, but looking at the voting, they seem to like him more than the lady they already know. posted 05/01/2008 at 18:55:25
Please, Clinton has zero chance, and every day proves that point.
FL and MI are as much a Hillary creation as anything. McAuliffe was the one that bounced them, with agreement from Hillary. Now she is all the sudden their champion instead of one of their oppressors. I really don't know how anyone can bring that up with a straight face.
Hillary has been crying to the supers since Feb. 5th, and for the record, Obama has told her to keep running. It's the rest of us that don't really see the point other than to serve the great Clinton ego. I would agree with a prior assessment on this point, that Clinton has every right to continue, just no good reason. posted 05/01/2008 at 18:48:31
FL and MI are as much a Hillary creation as anything. McAuliffe was the one that bounced them, with agreement from Hillary. Now she is all the sudden their champion instead of one of their oppressors. I really don't know how anyone can bring that up with a straight face.
Hillary has been crying to the supers since Feb. 5th, and for the record, Obama has told her to keep running. It's the rest of us that don't really see the point other than to serve the great Clinton ego. I would agree with a prior assessment on this point, that Clinton has every right to continue, just no good reason. posted 05/01/2008 at 18:48:31
Confusion Surrounding Robo-Calls in North Carolina
Don't be stupid. Clinical studies show that unmarried women really respond to guys named "Lamont." Apparently you need to catch up on your reading.
I am just amazed that the didn't have a "Leroy" or "Tyrone", you know, to speak to "women" who were their target audience. Those names must have been taken. posted 04/30/2008 at 19:25:39
I am just amazed that the didn't have a "Leroy" or "Tyrone", you know, to speak to "women" who were their target audience. Those names must have been taken. posted 04/30/2008 at 19:25:39
And by getting single women to vote, what I really mean is keeping black people from voting for Obama.
Clinton reaches a new low, thank God we are talking about Obama's preacher for the third month in a row. I was beginning to think that Rev. Wright was the father of Anna Nicole's baby.
Have fun in jail. posted 04/30/2008 at 19:20:56
Clinton reaches a new low, thank God we are talking about Obama's preacher for the third month in a row. I was beginning to think that Rev. Wright was the father of Anna Nicole's baby.
Have fun in jail. posted 04/30/2008 at 19:20:56
Have You Left No Sense Of Decency?
BTW, I do agree with you that the MSM coverage of Hagee as compared to Wright has been non-existent. I'm just saying that Wright isn't doing Obama or us Obama supporters any favors now that he has decided to go on a speaking tour, especially since he has called out Obama as being insincere in his criticism of his remarks. posted 04/29/2008 at 19:54:18
Actually, there was an interview where Hagee was asked about his position on gays, to which he replied that he wasn't going to talk about it. I think it was covered either here or TPM. posted 04/29/2008 at 19:49:56
This was a great article.
One thing that I would point out is that Hagee and Parsely at least know when to shut up. Wright has just caught his second wind, and rightly or wrongly, he may be the main obstacle in getting the first black president elected. As the great Jackie Robinson demonstrated, sometimes it actually takes more strength and courage to bite your tongue. posted 04/29/2008 at 18:08:33
One thing that I would point out is that Hagee and Parsely at least know when to shut up. Wright has just caught his second wind, and rightly or wrongly, he may be the main obstacle in getting the first black president elected. As the great Jackie Robinson demonstrated, sometimes it actually takes more strength and courage to bite your tongue. posted 04/29/2008 at 18:08:33
John Paul Stevens vs. Barack Obama On Voter Fraud
The problem with the article and our point is that you act as if it is a quick fix one way or the other. Stevens sides on the side of preventing voter fraud, but I would assume he is also against disenfranchisement. Same with Obama, he has come down on the side of enfranchisement, but feels that the IN law maybe done in a less restrictive way. That doesn't mean he supports voter fraud. That would be like saying that because you are for Hillary, you are a racist. You can be for one without being against the other. posted 04/29/2008 at 21:52:16
Dean, Not Obama or Clinton, Should Drop Out
Earl, I have a feeling honesty is not one of your chief qualities. Dean is responsible for the majority that we have in Congress and the Senate, and Dems are poised to make that majority larger. Dems are appearing back in states which had been abandoned for so long by Dean's predecessors. As a Texan, I have had to see Republican jackass after Republican jackass get elected in every statewide office in a state that used to be run by Dems. It is a very lonely feeling.
As far as Dean's performance, I would say it's impossible to reign over this one given the way your girl has acted. She has:
Supported the Republican over her Dem rival;
Challenged the very legitimacy of the primary by whipping up outrage over FL and MI (never mind that she agreed to it and her campaign manager voted for it. Prior to Dean, he jumped MI previously when they tried to step out of line) and she has insulted every state that runs a caucus b/c all of the sudden they are "undemocratic"
Had her supporters threaten the first woman Speaker of the House, Senate Majority Leader and the DNC.
Let's see if you have any shred of legitimacy in you by answering this question. How can you, a Clinton sock puppet, seriously complain about MI/FL, given the Clinton campaign's role in it occurring?
Now, back to your perch, Clintonian Lap Dog. Make sure you leave enough room for Joe Wilson. posted 04/29/2008 at 16:21:03
As far as Dean's performance, I would say it's impossible to reign over this one given the way your girl has acted. She has:
Supported the Republican over her Dem rival;
Challenged the very legitimacy of the primary by whipping up outrage over FL and MI (never mind that she agreed to it and her campaign manager voted for it. Prior to Dean, he jumped MI previously when they tried to step out of line) and she has insulted every state that runs a caucus b/c all of the sudden they are "undemocratic"
Had her supporters threaten the first woman Speaker of the House, Senate Majority Leader and the DNC.
Let's see if you have any shred of legitimacy in you by answering this question. How can you, a Clinton sock puppet, seriously complain about MI/FL, given the Clinton campaign's role in it occurring?
Now, back to your perch, Clintonian Lap Dog. Make sure you leave enough room for Joe Wilson. posted 04/29/2008 at 16:21:03
Learn from Baseball and Don't Air Bad Behavior
I completely agree, but it will never happen. How many times have we seen the cowardly media pursue and issue that is so irrelevant, unnewsworthy and vile, but they hide under the "Uh, no, we're not saying it, but it's on the internet," or "It is an issue his opponent raised." Using this new trick, the media has been able to throw out the wildest of claims which would normally get them laughed out of their sorry profession, but now they can do it and say, "well, we thought it shoud be addressed, and it was really someone else's question." posted 04/25/2008 at 00:17:20
Media Jump Ship From Obama To Clinton
The media is disgusting. All along it has been known that Hillary would win PA. Hell, Obama's memo from the beginning of the campaign predicted it. It was an accepted fact, and that it would do little to help Clinton late in the game. And then once it happens, oh my, it's a brand new ball game! Unbelievable.
Forget that the math is still the same. Forget that he did win over those same blue collar voters in the West. Forget that he is in the lead b/c he has gotten many other types of groups other than the blue collar whites who live in OH and PA to vote for him. I mean, did the last four months suddenly stop to exist? With that very specific group, he has some problems, but only in regards to running against Hillary. Do we honestly think McCain, who stood in front of a closed factory in OH and said, "These jobs are never coming back!" is going to beat him.
I cannot believe that the win of one state has brought the media back to their horse race fallacy. Sure, Barack, you are winning by an insurmountable lead, but what about your failure with west coast samoans, huh? or lapsed Catholics in the Rocky Mountain area? Huh, how 'bout it? It would be laughable, if the media's onanism couldn't possibly change the face of the race. posted 04/25/2008 at 00:06:05
Forget that the math is still the same. Forget that he did win over those same blue collar voters in the West. Forget that he is in the lead b/c he has gotten many other types of groups other than the blue collar whites who live in OH and PA to vote for him. I mean, did the last four months suddenly stop to exist? With that very specific group, he has some problems, but only in regards to running against Hillary. Do we honestly think McCain, who stood in front of a closed factory in OH and said, "These jobs are never coming back!" is going to beat him.
I cannot believe that the win of one state has brought the media back to their horse race fallacy. Sure, Barack, you are winning by an insurmountable lead, but what about your failure with west coast samoans, huh? or lapsed Catholics in the Rocky Mountain area? Huh, how 'bout it? It would be laughable, if the media's onanism couldn't possibly change the face of the race. posted 04/25/2008 at 00:06:05
Dems On North Carolina GOP Attack Ad: "Racist Gutter Politics"
How is this any different from Hillary's campaign? posted 04/23/2008 at 19:23:55
The Same Old Story: Discrediting Hillary
You lost me when you said she won Texas, FL, and MI. All I needed to know that you were a Hillary schill. posted 04/23/2008 at 10:51:09
Hillary's New Inevitability
And Clinton has closed the deal how?
By losing a 25% lead?
No wait, I know, by being down over 150 delegates.
Or is it being drubbed since Super Tuesday in the superdelegate contest.
I know, it's got to be her inability to raise money.
Losing the popular vote?
Running up high national negative numbers in regards to thing like honesty?
I forget, how is Clinton closing the deal? Oh wait, that's just campaign spin, sorry, I thought you were making a real point. posted 04/23/2008 at 15:20:59
By losing a 25% lead?
No wait, I know, by being down over 150 delegates.
Or is it being drubbed since Super Tuesday in the superdelegate contest.
I know, it's got to be her inability to raise money.
Losing the popular vote?
Running up high national negative numbers in regards to thing like honesty?
I forget, how is Clinton closing the deal? Oh wait, that's just campaign spin, sorry, I thought you were making a real point. posted 04/23/2008 at 15:20:59
That is totally right, it is who has 2025. Also correct is that the supers can vote any which way they choose. A final fact in this equation, though, is the probability that if the supers contradict the vote, there will be a backlash by a party that had an election taken from them in 2000 and it didn't taste too good. That is why the lead is important. posted 04/23/2008 at 15:15:37
This is really laughable. Here is why your points are ridiculous.
1. Nobody is saying Clinton isn't a strong candidate. She has been the face of the Dems for 16 years now (along with Bill), and she had a ton of support from the politicians in PA. The demographics favored her and she took advantage of it. Good for her, and if she were running for the President of PA, there is no doubt she would be the winner. It is just one state, and while she gained in both delegates and popular vote, it still leaves her behind. Also, there is a good chance she will lose that net gain during the next contests.
2. I love how Clinton & the gang like to chide Obama's money. Clinton is allowed to raise money too, she just can't do it as well. Don't you think the supers are going to want someone who can bring cash into the party? Talking about money is just going to reaffirm with the supers who is getting it done and who isn't. It's like criticizing USC in that the only reason they do so well is b/c they get great players to enroll at their school. Uh, yeah, that's part of the contest.
3. The black vote doesn't count any more? At one time, the Clintons used to crow about their ability to get the black vote, now it is marginalized b/c it is no longer going for them. posted 04/23/2008 at 15:09:33
1. Nobody is saying Clinton isn't a strong candidate. She has been the face of the Dems for 16 years now (along with Bill), and she had a ton of support from the politicians in PA. The demographics favored her and she took advantage of it. Good for her, and if she were running for the President of PA, there is no doubt she would be the winner. It is just one state, and while she gained in both delegates and popular vote, it still leaves her behind. Also, there is a good chance she will lose that net gain during the next contests.
2. I love how Clinton & the gang like to chide Obama's money. Clinton is allowed to raise money too, she just can't do it as well. Don't you think the supers are going to want someone who can bring cash into the party? Talking about money is just going to reaffirm with the supers who is getting it done and who isn't. It's like criticizing USC in that the only reason they do so well is b/c they get great players to enroll at their school. Uh, yeah, that's part of the contest.
3. The black vote doesn't count any more? At one time, the Clintons used to crow about their ability to get the black vote, now it is marginalized b/c it is no longer going for them. posted 04/23/2008 at 15:09:33
Actually, to be fair, the McCain part comes from a large swath of Clinton supporters declaring that they will vote for McCain over Barack. Given Hillary's rhetoric about her and McCain being ready, and Obama is not, I think you can understand where that accusation comes from. I know she said in the last couple of weeks that Obama can beat McCain and that a vote for McCain would be a mistake, but it is widely known that is not what she is telling the supers. I understand that may not be your take on it, but it is not coming from nowhere, it's coming from the Clinton camp. posted 04/23/2008 at 14:58:12
Thoughts on Pennsylvania, Clinton and Obama from a "Realisticrat"
As opposed to the tried and true method of going for the same states Dems have traditionally won and pray for some miracle others might fall our way. I think Webb called it the "triple bank shot" strategy. It loses our majority in Congress when the President doesn't run effectively in those states.
Here is what I don't understand about Hillary supporters. How do you demean, denigrate, slander and slime our candidate and then act surprised when we show up in a surly mood? How many times do we have to listent to Hillary tlink Obama to Farrahkan and Hamas,? Everyone knows he has absolutely no ties. How many times to we have to listen to the Ayers crap from a candidate whose husband pardoned two of his co-conspirators. Or having a strategy that you call "the Kitchen sink" and then accusing Obama of bringing down the level of debate. Or that Obama is cheerleading for McCain b/c he said that he would be "better than Bush." The guy with he 28% approval rating, hell a trained monkey could meet that standard. He also said Hillary was better too. Compare that with Hillary's Both I and McCain are qualified for the job, my fellow Democrat is not. That stuff tends to piss us off.
Even so, if Clinton gets the nomination, I'm still going to vote for her, b/c I am a Democrat and people's lives mean more to me than my petty little hurt feelings. posted 04/22/2008 at 21:47:34
Here is what I don't understand about Hillary supporters. How do you demean, denigrate, slander and slime our candidate and then act surprised when we show up in a surly mood? How many times do we have to listent to Hillary tlink Obama to Farrahkan and Hamas,? Everyone knows he has absolutely no ties. How many times to we have to listen to the Ayers crap from a candidate whose husband pardoned two of his co-conspirators. Or having a strategy that you call "the Kitchen sink" and then accusing Obama of bringing down the level of debate. Or that Obama is cheerleading for McCain b/c he said that he would be "better than Bush." The guy with he 28% approval rating, hell a trained monkey could meet that standard. He also said Hillary was better too. Compare that with Hillary's Both I and McCain are qualified for the job, my fellow Democrat is not. That stuff tends to piss us off.
Even so, if Clinton gets the nomination, I'm still going to vote for her, b/c I am a Democrat and people's lives mean more to me than my petty little hurt feelings. posted 04/22/2008 at 21:47:34
Clinton and her gang don't realize how easy she has had it in this primary. She has gotten a partial pass on criticism b/c Obama can't pull out all the stops without the possibility of falling in line with the Republicans. Whether he did it out of self-interest, or out of a sense of decency, I don't know, but that will change.
All the things that have been off limits during the primary are coming back in. Whitewater, the semen stained dress, Marc Rich, Bill's impeachment, perjury and subsequent disbarment, Paula Jones, and the Republican faithful are going to eat it up like cheetohs.
Don't fool yourself into thinking it's all water under the bridge b/c Obama won't go there, you are going to see it again by the bucketful. posted 04/22/2008 at 21:35:37
All the things that have been off limits during the primary are coming back in. Whitewater, the semen stained dress, Marc Rich, Bill's impeachment, perjury and subsequent disbarment, Paula Jones, and the Republican faithful are going to eat it up like cheetohs.
Don't fool yourself into thinking it's all water under the bridge b/c Obama won't go there, you are going to see it again by the bucketful. posted 04/22/2008 at 21:35:37
Flashy new title, same old tired and twisted logic on how the results aren't really the results. posted 04/22/2008 at 21:22:23
I might remind you that many of the "negatives" that people see Obama with aren't ones which he armed the Republicans with, rather, they were ones that Hillary armed them with.
I still laugh each time I hear this argument. Why in the world would we choose the candidate that can't even win the majority of her own base? The Clintons have been around for ages, and still those of us that stuck with them through the 90's prefer Obama. Since he also has a higher national poll, a lesser national negative poll and brings in more money, independents and allows us to compete in non-traditional Dem states, I forget, what was your point again? Oh yeah, that even with that somehow Hillary is the better candidate in the GE.
NAFTAgate, Peter Paul, and Tuzla aren't old issues, they are very new. I doubt in an era where voters say change is important that the same old, same old is going to cut it. Also, let's not forget that Hillary has been running on experience, in which McCain has her beat in spades. posted 04/22/2008 at 21:20:55
I still laugh each time I hear this argument. Why in the world would we choose the candidate that can't even win the majority of her own base? The Clintons have been around for ages, and still those of us that stuck with them through the 90's prefer Obama. Since he also has a higher national poll, a lesser national negative poll and brings in more money, independents and allows us to compete in non-traditional Dem states, I forget, what was your point again? Oh yeah, that even with that somehow Hillary is the better candidate in the GE.
NAFTAgate, Peter Paul, and Tuzla aren't old issues, they are very new. I doubt in an era where voters say change is important that the same old, same old is going to cut it. Also, let's not forget that Hillary has been running on experience, in which McCain has her beat in spades. posted 04/22/2008 at 21:20:55
Hillary, Are You Freaking Kidding Me?
Obama said, "He'd be better than Bush." So would a trained monkey. Saying your better than Bush is not the knob polishing that Hillary gave.
Clinton said, "I'm qualified, McCain is qualified, Obama is not."
If you can't see the difference, it is probably why you support Hillary. posted 04/21/2008 at 20:37:48
Clinton said, "I'm qualified, McCain is qualified, Obama is not."
If you can't see the difference, it is probably why you support Hillary. posted 04/21/2008 at 20:37:48
No More Spin: Clinton, Pennsylvania And The Party
Well, your girl has come out and said that Obama can beat McCain, so which is it?
Was here "yes, yes, yes" answer to that question just another one of her lies? posted 04/23/2008 at 19:56:51
Was here "yes, yes, yes" answer to that question just another one of her lies? posted 04/23/2008 at 19:56:51
Obama's Female Superdelegates Find Their "Sisterhood" Questioned
Certainly we are overdue to have a woman candidate make it this far, and I am glad we have one now. However, it's a two edged sword, b/c you can't ask for equality without having your candidates treated equally - whether its praise or criticism. posted 04/18/2008 at 02:59:04
The Whole Flag Thing Got Me Thinking
Sorry, I don't take orders from people named "Albie."
Suck it.
Mr.Winky posted 04/19/2008 at 00:10:25
Suck it.
Mr.Winky posted 04/19/2008 at 00:10:25
Don't kid yourself, Obama got plenty of heat for it. The only reason he didn't get more is b/c the press knows it is an idiot issue and feels guilty even when they endlessly dredge it up. I love this country, I get misty every time the National Anthem plays, and I have never owned nor worn a lapel flag pin. Nor will I ever.
Patriotism is what you do, how you act, and what you feel, not something you get from China and put on your jacket. Was Mother Teresa not a good person b/c one day she wasn't wearing a cross? posted 04/18/2008 at 03:08:46
Patriotism is what you do, how you act, and what you feel, not something you get from China and put on your jacket. Was Mother Teresa not a good person b/c one day she wasn't wearing a cross? posted 04/18/2008 at 03:08:46
I got a better idea, how about we stop participating in idiotic issues framed by Republicans on their terms. How in the Hell do you out patriotic someone? How do you ever win that contest other than having yourself dyed red, white and blue?
If Obama starts wearing the pin, then there will come all the calls that he is fake, and doesn't stand by his convictions. "He didn't wear it before, and now he is!" You see why it is a straw man issue. The Dems have been beaten again and again by this same trick, how many times are we going to burn ourselves on that same hot stove? No matter his response, the Republicans will have an attack.
Mainly, if people vote for a Republican like Tom Delay or that idiot Jack Kingston, who dutifully wear their flag pins while pissing all over the Constitution, I got news for you. They weren't ever going to vote Democratic. Going down that rabbit trail is a waste of our candidates' time. posted 04/18/2008 at 03:05:55
If Obama starts wearing the pin, then there will come all the calls that he is fake, and doesn't stand by his convictions. "He didn't wear it before, and now he is!" You see why it is a straw man issue. The Dems have been beaten again and again by this same trick, how many times are we going to burn ourselves on that same hot stove? No matter his response, the Republicans will have an attack.
Mainly, if people vote for a Republican like Tom Delay or that idiot Jack Kingston, who dutifully wear their flag pins while pissing all over the Constitution, I got news for you. They weren't ever going to vote Democratic. Going down that rabbit trail is a waste of our candidates' time. posted 04/18/2008 at 03:05:55
Et Tu, ABC?
Probably something less than when Clinton is sent to the showers in June. Second place is just the first loser Hillary. posted 04/18/2008 at 02:53:49
Yeah, Russert was pretty vicious.
Uh, you say you were against NAFTA from the beginning, but all the records show the exact opposite?
Well, (cackle), you don't have all the records.
Will someone please show me one reliable source where Hillary opposed NAFTA? And please don't send me some quote by one of the lackies in her campaign. posted 04/18/2008 at 02:52:35
Uh, you say you were against NAFTA from the beginning, but all the records show the exact opposite?
Well, (cackle), you don't have all the records.
Will someone please show me one reliable source where Hillary opposed NAFTA? And please don't send me some quote by one of the lackies in her campaign. posted 04/18/2008 at 02:52:35
Again, it depends on where you get your sourcing. If you get it from Hillary, yeah, I'm pretty sure you believe that. Both the Chicago papers were covering that story, and were giving Obama hell about it to talk to them. So he did, and allowed their full op-ed staffs (of both papers) to grill him on it for as long as they wanted. They came out and said not only was he clear, but also refreshingly honest about it. Also, the feds in no way implicate him in Rezko's nefarious dealings. Remember Whitewater?
No doubt McCain has a tremendous story, but I think as much as people respect that, he also has some horrible ideas. Also, getting into the naval academy and graduating almost dead last in his class is going to come out. That and his having lost 5 planes. Plus his unwillingness to support greater benefits for GI's that he says he supports and his flagrant dishonesty about the war. Remember the marketplace he said was so safe? posted 04/18/2008 at 02:47:45
No doubt McCain has a tremendous story, but I think as much as people respect that, he also has some horrible ideas. Also, getting into the naval academy and graduating almost dead last in his class is going to come out. That and his having lost 5 planes. Plus his unwillingness to support greater benefits for GI's that he says he supports and his flagrant dishonesty about the war. Remember the marketplace he said was so safe? posted 04/18/2008 at 02:47:45
Hmm bad judge of character.....how about marrying a guy that commits perjury and gets disbarred by betraying his vows to you and your daughter.
Or a guy that so stable he shoots himself in the head during your husband's tenure?
Or accepts money from a guy that becomes an international fugitive?
Or accepting money from a firm that is under investigation by the EEOC for widespread sexual harrassment complaints while you are running as a feminist?
Or paying millions of dollars to a chief advisor who is meeting with people during the campaign in support of issues you say you are against? Now make that guy your husband, who did the same thing. Now take that money he made from it and loan it to your campaign.
How about having a chair of your campaign finance committee call a historic candidate a lucky negro?
Or telling a lie about something that was experienced by the same press corps you are telling the lie to. Who were there with videotape?
You guys are pathetic. posted 04/18/2008 at 02:40:50
Or a guy that so stable he shoots himself in the head during your husband's tenure?
Or accepts money from a guy that becomes an international fugitive?
Or accepting money from a firm that is under investigation by the EEOC for widespread sexual harrassment complaints while you are running as a feminist?
Or paying millions of dollars to a chief advisor who is meeting with people during the campaign in support of issues you say you are against? Now make that guy your husband, who did the same thing. Now take that money he made from it and loan it to your campaign.
How about having a chair of your campaign finance committee call a historic candidate a lucky negro?
Or telling a lie about something that was experienced by the same press corps you are telling the lie to. Who were there with videotape?
You guys are pathetic. posted 04/18/2008 at 02:40:50
Give me a break. Let's not expand the argument beyond reason. In your anaology, that would mean that the Clintons had pardoned some members of Al Quaeda, that Bin Laden was now a professor at U of Chicago, and active in the Chicago southside charity scene. See how ridiculous your analogy is.
The point being is that it was a tenuous contact, and Obama was a child when these acts were committed. Since that time, there has been a lot of water under the bridge. The Clintons pardoned two of the Weather Underground, Ayers has made his peace with law enforcement, he is allowed to teach young people, and is an active citizen in the community. And still Obama only knows him from U of C and a charity board. Maybe you didn't hear the rest of the comment, but he covered it in its entirety, and was pointing out how trivial and irresponsible it was to ask him to refute the personal beliefs of everyone he has ever met. posted 04/18/2008 at 02:34:49
The point being is that it was a tenuous contact, and Obama was a child when these acts were committed. Since that time, there has been a lot of water under the bridge. The Clintons pardoned two of the Weather Underground, Ayers has made his peace with law enforcement, he is allowed to teach young people, and is an active citizen in the community. And still Obama only knows him from U of C and a charity board. Maybe you didn't hear the rest of the comment, but he covered it in its entirety, and was pointing out how trivial and irresponsible it was to ask him to refute the personal beliefs of everyone he has ever met. posted 04/18/2008 at 02:34:49
That is a great point about Kerry and Gore. Let's also not forget how the questions were phrased. "Is Rev. Wright as patriotic as you?" Isn't that something similar to, "when was the last time you beat your wife?" posted 04/18/2008 at 02:28:52
Did you also notice that Stephie defended the debate by saying these were all important topics that had arisen since the last debate, but he forgot two things:
1. The flag pin crap comes from the very beginning of the campaign, so that was an utter lie; and
2. Then where was the Penn/Bill being in cahoots with Colombia and Hillary loaning money to her campaign, $800,000 of which came from the people she says she is against (Colombia). You know, like when she was secretly against NAFTA.
Guess the media is just so hard on ol' Hillary. posted 04/18/2008 at 02:25:58
1. The flag pin crap comes from the very beginning of the campaign, so that was an utter lie; and
2. Then where was the Penn/Bill being in cahoots with Colombia and Hillary loaning money to her campaign, $800,000 of which came from the people she says she is against (Colombia). You know, like when she was secretly against NAFTA.
Guess the media is just so hard on ol' Hillary. posted 04/18/2008 at 02:25:58
Keep on saying it Bubba, maybe someday it will become true. posted 04/18/2008 at 02:22:03
Ah, nothing like a Clintonista cherry picking states which are "important." Hey Vern, you remember that Nevada win, woo boy that was something.
I would imagine its easier to track when you have so few to count. posted 04/18/2008 at 02:19:49
I would imagine its easier to track when you have so few to count. posted 04/18/2008 at 02:19:49
Hmm, let me see.
The bitterness debate which is the same argument made by Frank Thomas and Bill Clinton as to why people vote against their interests.
Wright as a 3rd party who both Huckabee and McCain have come out and said is a non-issue. Wish Hillary had the same integrity.
Directly addressing all facets of the Wright issue in a speech many agree was significant. Unlike some candidates, who characterize lying as misspeaking.
Tom Delay wore a flag pen everyday, even when he was defending corporations who were forcing workers to have abortions in the Marianas Islands. He's your idea of a patriot?
Obama sat down with the op ed pages of both Chicago papers and allowed them to ask any question. The cleared him and remarked at his honesty. Clinton has mashups showing her dishonesty on NAFTA, NAFTAgate, Tuzla, Rwanda, etc.
The Weatherman he barely knows, as opposed to the Clintons who pardoned them.
As opposed to Hillary, who argues for receiving lobbyist money.
A staff which has allowed him to mop the floor with Hillary in this election.
His position on women's issues has been consistent and backed by women's organizations who monitor politicians records concerning those issues.
As opposed to playing the gender/victim card by Hillary.
Hillary's only non-lie experience is sleeping with the former president. We know that is not a very exclusive crowd. posted 04/18/2008 at 02:16:59
The bitterness debate which is the same argument made by Frank Thomas and Bill Clinton as to why people vote against their interests.
Wright as a 3rd party who both Huckabee and McCain have come out and said is a non-issue. Wish Hillary had the same integrity.
Directly addressing all facets of the Wright issue in a speech many agree was significant. Unlike some candidates, who characterize lying as misspeaking.
Tom Delay wore a flag pen everyday, even when he was defending corporations who were forcing workers to have abortions in the Marianas Islands. He's your idea of a patriot?
Obama sat down with the op ed pages of both Chicago papers and allowed them to ask any question. The cleared him and remarked at his honesty. Clinton has mashups showing her dishonesty on NAFTA, NAFTAgate, Tuzla, Rwanda, etc.
The Weatherman he barely knows, as opposed to the Clintons who pardoned them.
As opposed to Hillary, who argues for receiving lobbyist money.
A staff which has allowed him to mop the floor with Hillary in this election.
His position on women's issues has been consistent and backed by women's organizations who monitor politicians records concerning those issues.
As opposed to playing the gender/victim card by Hillary.
Hillary's only non-lie experience is sleeping with the former president. We know that is not a very exclusive crowd. posted 04/18/2008 at 02:16:59
Lol. In his defense, Obama was like -200 when that happened. posted 04/18/2008 at 02:08:06
And Hillary has accomplished exactly what? Thought so. posted 04/18/2008 at 02:06:24
Kool-Aid in action. Yeah, the Clintons are so strong and skillful that they lost the nomination to a black candidate with a Muslim name who is in his first term in the Senate. Wow, they are awesome! Those darn corporations, they must really hate the Clintons, what with all the money that they have been throwing their way.
And let's not heap all the trash on the media. While they have been dutiful lackeys, let's remember you didn't hear one smear or lie out of Stephie or Gibson's mouth that hasn't been hammered home by the Clintons first. The were disgusting talking points no doubt, but they were also Hillary's talking points. posted 04/18/2008 at 02:02:36
And let's not heap all the trash on the media. While they have been dutiful lackeys, let's remember you didn't hear one smear or lie out of Stephie or Gibson's mouth that hasn't been hammered home by the Clintons first. The were disgusting talking points no doubt, but they were also Hillary's talking points. posted 04/18/2008 at 02:02:36
Wow, you are a true zombie. Even Hillary's campaign admits they are behind in the popular vote, the pledged delegates and are fast losing their advantage with the supers. You should really seek some help if that is what you truly believe.
The irony of this is that Hillary has no problem condescending to the American voter, the ones she supposedly has so much respect for. Unmentioned in her smear last night, and her campaign's conference call this morning is the fact that Bill pardoned members of the Weather Underground. Yeah, that kind of kills her guilt by association argument.
It is interesting that McCain and Hillary are not asked about Hagee, Hsu, Parsley, or Peter Paul, but Obama should answer for Rezko, Wright, Farrahkan, Ayers, etc. Why the double standard? posted 04/18/2008 at 01:57:56
The irony of this is that Hillary has no problem condescending to the American voter, the ones she supposedly has so much respect for. Unmentioned in her smear last night, and her campaign's conference call this morning is the fact that Bill pardoned members of the Weather Underground. Yeah, that kind of kills her guilt by association argument.
It is interesting that McCain and Hillary are not asked about Hagee, Hsu, Parsley, or Peter Paul, but Obama should answer for Rezko, Wright, Farrahkan, Ayers, etc. Why the double standard? posted 04/18/2008 at 01:57:56
The Obama Campaign: Consent of, or Contempt for, the People
Yeah, it's pretty admirable to lie for your own personal benefit. That Ollie North sure was courageous too, wasn't he? posted 04/17/2008 at 02:34:16
Then where are the articles on Hillary and Rezko's co-defendant's? Norman Hsu? Peter Paul? Your attempts are truly pathetic. How many times does Obama have to reject or denounce Farakan for you to get it into your skull?
The main point is that every candiate encounters a wide variety and massive amount of people in their paths for candidacy, Hillary has got them as well as Obama. Are we going to sit there and hold each one out and make the candidate denounce them? Are you really another genius suggesting that Obama is a terrorist b/c he knew someone who was involved with the Weather Underground? No, you just want to slime him by inferring it.
As to these issues being fully vetted, uh, I don't know where you have been, but they were covered on a 24 loop by the media. They finally had to stop when it was found that there was actually no story there. Just say you don't like Obama and be done with it. Stop trying to clothe whatever problem you have as being Obama's rather than your own. So you support someone else, fine, but that doesn't mean that Obama is a criminal, a bad person, or corrupt. posted 04/17/2008 at 02:32:21
The main point is that every candiate encounters a wide variety and massive amount of people in their paths for candidacy, Hillary has got them as well as Obama. Are we going to sit there and hold each one out and make the candidate denounce them? Are you really another genius suggesting that Obama is a terrorist b/c he knew someone who was involved with the Weather Underground? No, you just want to slime him by inferring it.
As to these issues being fully vetted, uh, I don't know where you have been, but they were covered on a 24 loop by the media. They finally had to stop when it was found that there was actually no story there. Just say you don't like Obama and be done with it. Stop trying to clothe whatever problem you have as being Obama's rather than your own. So you support someone else, fine, but that doesn't mean that Obama is a criminal, a bad person, or corrupt. posted 04/17/2008 at 02:32:21
Hillary is the second coming and Obama has done more damage to Western Civilization than bubonic plague. As always Joe, thanks for the analysis, it is always so productive and helpful.
The only ones who should be insulted in the foreign community are those who would sell their soul, credibility and any scrap of integrity for another tax payer funded trip abroad. You know, guys such as yourself. Obama said that photo-op trips abroad are not experience, and I believe he is right. There may be some value in travelling to Bosnia to hear the poetry of 8 year olds, but I wouldn't put it down on a resume. I visited an auto plant one time, doesn't mean I know how to build a car.
As for Obama's committee, Joe, you know that is a straight up lie. You know that subcommittees only hear that which is farmed out to them by the main committee, and it was the main committee which held those hearings on Afghanistan. This dishonesty is doing no one any good, and you are wasting people's time for your pending ambassadorship. Hillary's Armed Service Committee held three hearings on Afghanistan, which you and I both agree are important. Hillary did not attend one of them.
Joe, you have become such an unmitigated liar, I am now starting to wonder if Nigeria did sell yellow cake to Iraq. Because it is getting harder to believe that anything which comes out of your mouth could be honest. posted 04/17/2008 at 02:25:05
The only ones who should be insulted in the foreign community are those who would sell their soul, credibility and any scrap of integrity for another tax payer funded trip abroad. You know, guys such as yourself. Obama said that photo-op trips abroad are not experience, and I believe he is right. There may be some value in travelling to Bosnia to hear the poetry of 8 year olds, but I wouldn't put it down on a resume. I visited an auto plant one time, doesn't mean I know how to build a car.
As for Obama's committee, Joe, you know that is a straight up lie. You know that subcommittees only hear that which is farmed out to them by the main committee, and it was the main committee which held those hearings on Afghanistan. This dishonesty is doing no one any good, and you are wasting people's time for your pending ambassadorship. Hillary's Armed Service Committee held three hearings on Afghanistan, which you and I both agree are important. Hillary did not attend one of them.
Joe, you have become such an unmitigated liar, I am now starting to wonder if Nigeria did sell yellow cake to Iraq. Because it is getting harder to believe that anything which comes out of your mouth could be honest. posted 04/17/2008 at 02:25:05
Man In Clinton's 'Bitter' Ad Isn't Registered To Vote
Well, at least he's not an Obama supporter, like that girl in the 3 a.m. ad. What a tremendous organization is the Clinton campaign, the schedule their staff screaming matches at 8, 11, & 3 and I'll be darned if they aren't on the nose every time.
Hillary, go away posted 04/16/2008 at 16:32:32
Hillary, go away posted 04/16/2008 at 16:32:32
Why Hillary Clinton's Slash-and-Burn Politics May Hurt Her More Than Obama
GASP! Obama attended (gulp) a party!?! This is beyond pathetic. Nobody is saying he didn't know the guy, and at one time he was a prominent player in Chicago politics. The main point is that Obama (and many others) didn't know about his illegal dealings. Just like Hillary didn't know about Norman Hsu or Peter Paul, which has gotten next to no press, and shouldn't. posted 04/16/2008 at 05:49:49
Sometimes I think Clinton should have a frame around her with the label "irony" at the bottom.
Not just b/c she has gone from the board of Wal-Mart and The Rose Law Firm to the Governor's Mansion to the White House (and not b/c of the 109 million)
Rather, Obama made an attempt to explain the same phenomena that Frank Thomas covered in his book, "What Happened to Kansas." Basically, why would working class people continue to vote against their own interests. Obama's statement was that these people were not included in th economic debates, b/c the hot philosophy for so long has been free trade and global markets. But these are people who are constantly pandered to on the only things they have left, guns, church, and family values.
After calling him out on his alleged "elitism," Hillary did exactly what Obama was talking about - regaling the electorate with duck hunting stories and taking shots with them, even though that was such a small part of her life and has not encompassed any part of her platform since (and as this is Hillary, if it is even true at all) Hopefully, PA people will see that Clinton is more of the same, and that the condescension is not from Obama, but rather the new and improved (for the 5,00th time) rootin' tootin' Hillary posted 04/15/2008 at 20:53:15
Not just b/c she has gone from the board of Wal-Mart and The Rose Law Firm to the Governor's Mansion to the White House (and not b/c of the 109 million)
Rather, Obama made an attempt to explain the same phenomena that Frank Thomas covered in his book, "What Happened to Kansas." Basically, why would working class people continue to vote against their own interests. Obama's statement was that these people were not included in th economic debates, b/c the hot philosophy for so long has been free trade and global markets. But these are people who are constantly pandered to on the only things they have left, guns, church, and family values.
After calling him out on his alleged "elitism," Hillary did exactly what Obama was talking about - regaling the electorate with duck hunting stories and taking shots with them, even though that was such a small part of her life and has not encompassed any part of her platform since (and as this is Hillary, if it is even true at all) Hopefully, PA people will see that Clinton is more of the same, and that the condescension is not from Obama, but rather the new and improved (for the 5,00th time) rootin' tootin' Hillary posted 04/15/2008 at 20:53:15
John McCain Should Go on Vacation, Hillary Clinton is Doing His Job for Him
Nicely put. First you have McCain, dumping his first wife and marrying the heiress and who refuses to release his taxes. Multiple vacation homes, and decades in the Senate after getting into the Naval Academy b/c daddy and granddaddy were admirals. How did he repay this, by graduating almost dead last in his class. Yeah, he's a regular Joe Lunchpail.
Then we get to Hillary. Going from the board of Wal-Mart and The Rose Law Firm, to the Governor's Mansion to the Whitehouse, then trading it all in for 109 million.
Meanwhile, Obama is the child of a single parent, spent a great deal of time being raised by his grandparents, was a community organizer for laid off steel workers (you know, the people he's accused of looking down on), and has finally paid off his student loans is the elitist. posted 04/15/2008 at 01:42:02
Then we get to Hillary. Going from the board of Wal-Mart and The Rose Law Firm, to the Governor's Mansion to the Whitehouse, then trading it all in for 109 million.
Meanwhile, Obama is the child of a single parent, spent a great deal of time being raised by his grandparents, was a community organizer for laid off steel workers (you know, the people he's accused of looking down on), and has finally paid off his student loans is the elitist. posted 04/15/2008 at 01:42:02
Horsehockey. He made the statement that was similar to points made by Clinton and others in the past. That these voters continuously vote against their own interest b/c guns, gays, church and illegals are the only issues anyone pays attention to them anymore.
If Obama had said he liked tomatoes, then we woudl have heard hours of Clinton talking about what an elitist vegetable (actually, fruit) the tomato is and shouldn't everyone who raises cucumbers demand an apology. She's desperate...and pathetic. posted 04/15/2008 at 01:36:11
If Obama had said he liked tomatoes, then we woudl have heard hours of Clinton talking about what an elitist vegetable (actually, fruit) the tomato is and shouldn't everyone who raises cucumbers demand an apology. She's desperate...and pathetic. posted 04/15/2008 at 01:36:11
Bill Clinton Flashback: "All These Economically Insecure White People...Are Scared To Death"
Ah, my favorite Republican tactic. When caught doing something, blame the media as "out to get me." Yep, that must be why they gloss over Hillary's agreement and campaign's vote to exclude MI and FL when covering her pathetic attempts to paint it as Obama's fault. posted 04/13/2008 at 15:32:51
C'mon. If what your saying is true, then that would make the Clintons hypcrites who would do or say anything to win. That can't be right.... posted 04/13/2008 at 15:27:53
Wesley Clark for VP!
lol. That was great. posted 04/13/2008 at 15:45:07
I don't have a problem with Wes Clark, but you do make a heck of a point. posted 04/13/2008 at 15:44:16
I seem to have a typing problem today.
I "liked" him as a candidate, when he was one.
I would NOT have a problem with him as a candidate.
Sorry for the mistyping. posted 04/13/2008 at 15:42:45
I "liked" him as a candidate, when he was one.
I would NOT have a problem with him as a candidate.
Sorry for the mistyping. posted 04/13/2008 at 15:42:45
I agree with you. I actually like him as a candidate and was disappointed that he did not get a stronger showing.
I agree he answers a lot of questions for Obama, experience, a military counter for McCain, white (for those uncomfortable with a black candidate), a bridge between the Obama and Clinton crowds. My only problem might be that he is an issue candidate, and doesn't come with much of a following. May not be a big deal in the end, and everyone who is available is going to have strengths and weaknesses.
I would have a problem with him being the choice. posted 04/13/2008 at 15:41:09
I agree he answers a lot of questions for Obama, experience, a military counter for McCain, white (for those uncomfortable with a black candidate), a bridge between the Obama and Clinton crowds. My only problem might be that he is an issue candidate, and doesn't come with much of a following. May not be a big deal in the end, and everyone who is available is going to have strengths and weaknesses.
I would have a problem with him being the choice. posted 04/13/2008 at 15:41:09
Tim Russert Nails Hillary Clinton Over Bosnia Trip Falsehoods
Does anyone know what Carville's response was? posted 04/13/2008 at 11:53:36
Faux Obama Supporter Mayhill Fowler Smears Obama
I don't know that she is a faux Obama supporter. Everything that I have read has gone out of its way to take shots at him or give him at best back handed compliments.
As for her, Dobbs, and the like, read the subtext. "Cocky" translates to "uppity." I guess it depends on what lens you are viewing him through which determines how you see him. posted 04/12/2008 at 18:50:31
As for her, Dobbs, and the like, read the subtext. "Cocky" translates to "uppity." I guess it depends on what lens you are viewing him through which determines how you see him. posted 04/12/2008 at 18:50:31
Obama's Remarks Give Clinton an Opening
The media is dying to make this a race again, b/c they can't make any money on the "Hillary has lost" story that they were finally forced to push once all the spin is gone.
Giving Hillary and Bill's repeated failures to spin the sniper fire story, the press, always looking to be fair has been on the lookout for Obama. Since they couldn't find one, they have now decided to manufacture one. posted 04/12/2008 at 18:58:09
Giving Hillary and Bill's repeated failures to spin the sniper fire story, the press, always looking to be fair has been on the lookout for Obama. Since they couldn't find one, they have now decided to manufacture one. posted 04/12/2008 at 18:58:09
I hope the people that printed off the "I'm not bitter" bumperstickers got paid first - in cash.
If the blue collar voters in PA, IN, or elsewhere vote for Hillary despite her support of NAFTA, her husband and her chief adviser being involved in another free trade deal with Colombia, then they are again going to reap what they sow.
Obama is still going to be the nominee, the only question is how much longer Hillary is going to slime him to satisfy her ego. posted 04/12/2008 at 18:55:28
If the blue collar voters in PA, IN, or elsewhere vote for Hillary despite her support of NAFTA, her husband and her chief adviser being involved in another free trade deal with Colombia, then they are again going to reap what they sow.
Obama is still going to be the nominee, the only question is how much longer Hillary is going to slime him to satisfy her ego. posted 04/12/2008 at 18:55:28
Punished for the Truth
I may be in love.
The truth of the matter is that regarding gays, guns, immigration and church, these are the only matters which politicians now turn to the constituencies of these industrial towns. When it comes to the economy or jobs, the Clintons and the Bushes have always hid these people under the rug, b/c they are an inconvenient side effect from all the free trade that they like to crow about (at least until Hillary's miraculous turnaround on trade which started coincidentally with the election season)
Yeah, a lot of us are fixated on these issues, but it's mainly b/c it's the only issues that are left to us. When it comes to money, the politicians follow their own nose. posted 04/12/2008 at 12:57:31
The truth of the matter is that regarding gays, guns, immigration and church, these are the only matters which politicians now turn to the constituencies of these industrial towns. When it comes to the economy or jobs, the Clintons and the Bushes have always hid these people under the rug, b/c they are an inconvenient side effect from all the free trade that they like to crow about (at least until Hillary's miraculous turnaround on trade which started coincidentally with the election season)
Yeah, a lot of us are fixated on these issues, but it's mainly b/c it's the only issues that are left to us. When it comes to money, the politicians follow their own nose. posted 04/12/2008 at 12:57:31
Pushing Clinton: CNN's Push Poll on Obama's Remarks
Nice to see the media is still interested in keeping this race alive for their own profit. They certainly are better at it than Hillary. It will be interesting to see how long they can keep that corpse alive, trying valiantly to convince us its still breathing. posted 04/12/2008 at 09:50:22
Why American Airlines' Big Public Sad Meltdown is Good
You make some nice points, but you leave out a very important fact. The number of passenger, or demand, will be the same.
So fewer airlines with fewer planes and flights will have to meet the same demands by travellers. That spells trouble to me. posted 04/11/2008 at 21:33:53
So fewer airlines with fewer planes and flights will have to meet the same demands by travellers. That spells trouble to me. posted 04/11/2008 at 21:33:53
Obama: No Surprise That Hard-Pressed Pennsylvanians Turn Bitter
Actually, look at yahoo.com, he did exactly what you said. Maybe there is a job out there for you as a political advisor? posted 04/12/2008 at 12:47:44
Can we drop the media/Clinton tag of elitist. If you concede he is telling the truth, then how is it elitist? I understand and agree with a lot of your point, but if I say that poor people eat a lot of bologna, and its true, then it is not elitist.
An elitist statement would be along the lines of "You want me to eat bologna? That's for poor people."
Any blue collar worker that feels the Republicans would represent him better than Obama deserve their fate. posted 04/12/2008 at 12:45:29
An elitist statement would be along the lines of "You want me to eat bologna? That's for poor people."
Any blue collar worker that feels the Republicans would represent him better than Obama deserve their fate. posted 04/12/2008 at 12:45:29
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