May 18, 2008
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How The 'Dream Ticket' Can Become A Nightmare
Bush Compares Obama To Nazi Appeasers
If he'd just given up pretzels, THAT would have been a real sacrifice. posted 05/15/2008 at 09:31:38
Obama Calls Reporter 'Sweetie' In Michigan
And we KNOW what John McCain would have called her, don't we? posted 05/14/2008 at 16:57:43
Hillary Agonistes: Why Doesn't She Concede?
Maybe this is a key to why Hillary ran for the presidency and why she refuses to drop out:
"...then-Gov. Clinton wanted to end his marriage and sought advice about what the political consequences would be from "fellow governors whose marriages had deteriorated."
But Bernstein quotes Bill Clinton"s former chief of staff, Betsey Wright, saying Hillary refused to give her husband a pass out of the marriage. One of Hillary Clinton"s closest friends, Diane Blair, is also quoted as saying Hillary was concerned that she did not have much money and wouldn"t do well as a single parent.
Around the same time, when Bill Clinton had not yet decided if he would seek a second term as governor of Arkansas, Bernstein says Hillary Clinton briefly considered running for governor herself.
"The few people who knew about that possibility said the idea was largely born of anger and hurt," Bernstein writes.
Ultimately, of course, Bill Clinton did run for another term as governor. And Bernstein writes that both he and Hillary committed at that point to saving their marriage. Ironically, according to Bernstein, Hillary Clinton thought winning the White House would help temper her husband"s tendency to stray.
http://www.againsthillary.com/?s=divorcée
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But it didn't. Is this a repeat pattern? A desire to punish and best Bill? posted 05/14/2008 at 13:35:03
"...then-Gov. Clinton wanted to end his marriage and sought advice about what the political consequences would be from "fellow governors whose marriages had deteriorated."
But Bernstein quotes Bill Clinton"s former chief of staff, Betsey Wright, saying Hillary refused to give her husband a pass out of the marriage. One of Hillary Clinton"s closest friends, Diane Blair, is also quoted as saying Hillary was concerned that she did not have much money and wouldn"t do well as a single parent.
Around the same time, when Bill Clinton had not yet decided if he would seek a second term as governor of Arkansas, Bernstein says Hillary Clinton briefly considered running for governor herself.
"The few people who knew about that possibility said the idea was largely born of anger and hurt," Bernstein writes.
Ultimately, of course, Bill Clinton did run for another term as governor. And Bernstein writes that both he and Hillary committed at that point to saving their marriage. Ironically, according to Bernstein, Hillary Clinton thought winning the White House would help temper her husband"s tendency to stray.
http://www.againsthillary.com/?s=divorcée
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But it didn't. Is this a repeat pattern? A desire to punish and best Bill? posted 05/14/2008 at 13:35:03
Mississippi Win Gives House Dems Three Victories In A Row
Terrific gains!
But maybe we shouldn't be too surprised if states that were victims of Katrina turn away from the Republican party after they've been so horribly shafted. New Orleans wasn't the only place devastated with no way to rebuild, despite promises that were made by the GW Bush administration. posted 05/13/2008 at 23:09:39
But maybe we shouldn't be too surprised if states that were victims of Katrina turn away from the Republican party after they've been so horribly shafted. New Orleans wasn't the only place devastated with no way to rebuild, despite promises that were made by the GW Bush administration. posted 05/13/2008 at 23:09:39
Is Clinton Looking For An "I Told You So" Moment?
David Corn
If Hillary thinks she'll have the right to say "I told you so," Obama would have to lose the election first. That just isn't going to happen. Obama is planning his campaign against McCain carefully, and I have no doubt he will win over many Americans from John McCain because of his positive campaigning just as he has won over many Democrats from Hillary Clinton for the same reason.
If the contest between Obama and Clinton were conducted on the same playing field, I might think you were closer to another reason why Clinton's staying in the race. But they aren't conducting the same kind of campaign at all. Obama's reach for integrity in politics is something almost all Americans are hoping for as well, after GW Bush has damned near destroyed us. I think voters will drop like sprayed flies from John McCain, who just cannot seem to shake Bush off the bottom of his foot, nor does he seem to be trying. posted 05/13/2008 at 23:02:57
If Hillary thinks she'll have the right to say "I told you so," Obama would have to lose the election first. That just isn't going to happen. Obama is planning his campaign against McCain carefully, and I have no doubt he will win over many Americans from John McCain because of his positive campaigning just as he has won over many Democrats from Hillary Clinton for the same reason.
If the contest between Obama and Clinton were conducted on the same playing field, I might think you were closer to another reason why Clinton's staying in the race. But they aren't conducting the same kind of campaign at all. Obama's reach for integrity in politics is something almost all Americans are hoping for as well, after GW Bush has damned near destroyed us. I think voters will drop like sprayed flies from John McCain, who just cannot seem to shake Bush off the bottom of his foot, nor does he seem to be trying. posted 05/13/2008 at 23:02:57
Bush: I Gave Up Golf For The Troops
BUSH: I GAVE UP GOLF IN 2003 OUT OF RESPECT FOR U.S. SOLDIERS KILLED IN THE WAR....
And we all know how much they and their families appreciate your sacrifice....
The man is a sociopath. posted 05/13/2008 at 21:03:34
And we all know how much they and their families appreciate your sacrifice....
The man is a sociopath. posted 05/13/2008 at 21:03:34
West Virginia Exit Polls: Early Highlights
LOL!
You got it! posted 05/13/2008 at 19:51:16
You got it! posted 05/13/2008 at 19:51:16
Sue Simmons (Video): New York NBC Anchor Screams "What The F*** Are You Doing?" In On-Air Promo
WHY did she cuss? Was it because of the ship on the screen? She wasn't finished with the cereal blurb? posted 05/13/2008 at 10:40:45
Superdelegates put Obama within mathematical reach
Campaign law is really not something many of us have paid attention to -- at least, this is the first time for me.
But a correction here. Hillary cannot use that General Election money to retire the debts she racked up during the primary. See the information below:
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http://www.gannettnewsservice.com/?p=253
"Candidates who don"t win the primary must refund the general election contributions to their donors. A nominee can use any leftover primary money in the general election."
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But a correction here. Hillary cannot use that General Election money to retire the debts she racked up during the primary. See the information below:
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http://www.gannettnewsservice.com/?p=253
"Candidates who don"t win the primary must refund the general election contributions to their donors. A nominee can use any leftover primary money in the general election."
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Why do you think she's doing this? I've thought about it a lot, after first concluding that she HAD to be staying in because she needed the time for fundraising to pay off her debts since there was no way she could win the nomination fairly and squarely. That makes sense to me and probably all reasonable people.
Yet now, I don't see or hear about any particular fundraising efforts on her part at all, just another possible self-loan of millions more to her campaign. Nobody takes out another large loan when they're trying to pay off a prior large loan without a reason. In this case, nobody's given a reason that makes sense to me at all.
Maybe you understand her reasoning better than I! What do you think? posted 05/13/2008 at 09:16:17
Yet now, I don't see or hear about any particular fundraising efforts on her part at all, just another possible self-loan of millions more to her campaign. Nobody takes out another large loan when they're trying to pay off a prior large loan without a reason. In this case, nobody's given a reason that makes sense to me at all.
Maybe you understand her reasoning better than I! What do you think? posted 05/13/2008 at 09:16:17
Obama Muslim Smear Resurfaces: NYT Op-Ed Tags Obama As Muslim 'Apostate'
Once again I am struck by how the speculations of some reveal their wishes... posted 05/12/2008 at 18:18:01
Clinton Mentor: Hillary Failed To Master Female Approach
One thing I wonder, which Houston didn't address is whether Bill and Hillary have a "competitive" marriage/personal relationship. If Hillary is indeed "funny, hilarious, generous, warm, given to acts of kindness that are extraordinary, ....a deep woman, not just a very bright woman", as Houston declares, one can only wonder why Hillary is unable to convey this persona in the public arena.
I've known several women like Hillary, who are viciously competitive with others, who want to be thought of as "tough", and they are wholly unattractive people to me. One of the most offensive things Hillary did (in my mind) was to pull the macho stuff, the boilermakers, the tough talk. I really DID want to ask her in disgust if she was going to fart for us and show us her balls as well. She doesn't "do" male well -- what she did was mimic the lowest and most obnoxious characteristics of macho men, whom I really dislike, too.
Anyway, I suspect that Hillary's public persona, more than anything else, has created the negatives, though when people discuss the negatives, they relate most of them to something objective she's done.
If Hillary ever leaves Bill, she may find that she likes who she is and it's authentic. posted 05/12/2008 at 12:46:58
I've known several women like Hillary, who are viciously competitive with others, who want to be thought of as "tough", and they are wholly unattractive people to me. One of the most offensive things Hillary did (in my mind) was to pull the macho stuff, the boilermakers, the tough talk. I really DID want to ask her in disgust if she was going to fart for us and show us her balls as well. She doesn't "do" male well -- what she did was mimic the lowest and most obnoxious characteristics of macho men, whom I really dislike, too.
Anyway, I suspect that Hillary's public persona, more than anything else, has created the negatives, though when people discuss the negatives, they relate most of them to something objective she's done.
If Hillary ever leaves Bill, she may find that she likes who she is and it's authentic. posted 05/12/2008 at 12:46:58
Clinton Campaign In $20 Million Of Debt, Campaign Chair Says Clinton Could Lend More Money
It appears from the information below that the convention is the cutoff date, regardless of when a candidate drops out of the race. Maybe that's because that candidate could conceivably become the nominee at the convention.
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After an election is over, any campaign contributions that go toward repaying the candidate's own loans serve, in practice, as money directly into a politician's pocket. As a result, campaign law now limits to $250,000 the amount a campaign committee can repay the candidate after the election. In the case of the Democratic primary, the election will end when a nominee is selected in Denver.
http://www.campaignlegalcenter.org/press-3207.html posted 05/12/2008 at 12:10:42
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After an election is over, any campaign contributions that go toward repaying the candidate's own loans serve, in practice, as money directly into a politician's pocket. As a result, campaign law now limits to $250,000 the amount a campaign committee can repay the candidate after the election. In the case of the Democratic primary, the election will end when a nominee is selected in Denver.
http://www.campaignlegalcenter.org/press-3207.html posted 05/12/2008 at 12:10:42
FWIW, the rules say that she must continue in the campaign if sh wants to pay off her debts to HERSELF. She cannot do any fundraising to pay off self-debts once she withdraws. As for the debts to others, she can continue to raise funds to pay those debts off after she withdraws.
Here's the information, first published by Slate:
http://www.campaignlegalcenter.org/press-3207.html
Debt retirement gets a little more complicated when candidates lend their own money to their campaign. After an election is over, any campaign contributions that go toward repaying the candidate's own loans serve, in practice, as money directly into a politician's pocket. As a result, campaign law now limits to $250,000 the amount a campaign committee can repay the candidate after the election. In the case of the Democratic primary, the election will end when a nominee is selected in Denver. So unless Clinton is able to raise enough money to pay herself back by then, she'll have to write off millions of dollars she lent to her campaign. posted 05/12/2008 at 11:53:35
Here's the information, first published by Slate:
http://www.campaignlegalcenter.org/press-3207.html
Debt retirement gets a little more complicated when candidates lend their own money to their campaign. After an election is over, any campaign contributions that go toward repaying the candidate's own loans serve, in practice, as money directly into a politician's pocket. As a result, campaign law now limits to $250,000 the amount a campaign committee can repay the candidate after the election. In the case of the Democratic primary, the election will end when a nominee is selected in Denver. So unless Clinton is able to raise enough money to pay herself back by then, she'll have to write off millions of dollars she lent to her campaign. posted 05/12/2008 at 11:53:35
Or, as one poster quipped: "Change you can Xerox!" posted 05/12/2008 at 10:33:13
Here you go. I don't know if it's the most recent list or not.
http://query.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/dcdev/forms/C00431569/335594/sd/12 posted 05/12/2008 at 10:24:19
http://query.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/dcdev/forms/C00431569/335594/sd/12 posted 05/12/2008 at 10:24:19
Well, I read that figure recently but can't find it on-line. This report dated February 2008 mentions $35M that Romney had loaned his campaign, implying that might not be all:
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Mitt Romney might go down in history as the presidential candidate who spent more of his personal income than any other in his pursuit to win the White House. It is estimated that he already has used $35 million of his roughly $250 million personal fortune. And if Mitt makes the cut to be the Republican nominee, during the next 10 months, he surely will surpass Ross Perot's $60 million infusion into his own 1992 candidacy.
http://www.nationalledger.com/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi?archive=22&num=18683
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And look at that! Ross Perot invested $60M into his campaign! Apparently it's common among wealthy candidates but doesn't seem to result in their winning. posted 05/12/2008 at 10:21:59
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Mitt Romney might go down in history as the presidential candidate who spent more of his personal income than any other in his pursuit to win the White House. It is estimated that he already has used $35 million of his roughly $250 million personal fortune. And if Mitt makes the cut to be the Republican nominee, during the next 10 months, he surely will surpass Ross Perot's $60 million infusion into his own 1992 candidacy.
http://www.nationalledger.com/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi?archive=22&num=18683
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And look at that! Ross Perot invested $60M into his campaign! Apparently it's common among wealthy candidates but doesn't seem to result in their winning. posted 05/12/2008 at 10:21:59
Hey, nobody should worry about Hillary's continuing loans to her campaign. Maybe she's in competition with Mitt Romney -- he loaned HIS campaign $47M+ and lost the nomination, too. posted 05/12/2008 at 10:05:19
New Group With Clinton Ties Pushes A 'Dream Ticket'
Wouldn't being his VP ruin all her plans to run in 2012? Of course, he'll be president until 2016 anyway, so her dreams are already shot.
Maybe she should run for the governorship of New York. posted 05/11/2008 at 19:10:33
Maybe she should run for the governorship of New York. posted 05/11/2008 at 19:10:33
Rangel Slams Clinton White Support Talk
Is this an example of "working-class" Americans Hillary brags are her supporters?
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb223/anney_2007/MufflerShopSign.jpg posted 05/11/2008 at 08:47:14
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb223/anney_2007/MufflerShopSign.jpg posted 05/11/2008 at 08:47:14
"Hillary Democrats" Could Be Up For Grabs
it"s predicted that more than 100,000 million people will vote in the GE, while 33,000 will have participated in the primaries. So (if these numbers are roughly correct), 2/3 of those who vote in the GE weren"t interested enough to vote for a Democratic or Republican candidate in the primaries. That means that likely Democratic voters didn"t care if it was Hillary or Obama.
And FWIW, Obama is still putting massive efforts into new voter registrations, increasing the numbers of Democratic voters, while McCain"s camp sort of bumbles along with Joe Lieberman stuck to him recalling Edgar Bergen and Charlie McCarthy. I think the Democratic voters will hugely outnumber the Republican voters for many reasons.
If Obama conducts an effective campaign against McCain, and there"s no reason he won"t, since McCain is really appearing to be an ignorant dufus, you have to take into account some 77 million voters who didn"t vote in the primaries. The primary voters are only a subset of a much larger number of voters.
What I"m saying is that the percentage of avid supporters of either Hillary or Obama in the primary race doesn"t necessarily predict an equivalent break in those who lean Democratic among the remaining 77M voters, with Hillary supporters peeling off to McCain. Most voters will vote for the candidate who seems to best represent their interests, and it has little to do with the primary fight between Clinton and Obama. The divide then will be Republican/Democrat. posted 05/10/2008 at 15:03:57
And FWIW, Obama is still putting massive efforts into new voter registrations, increasing the numbers of Democratic voters, while McCain"s camp sort of bumbles along with Joe Lieberman stuck to him recalling Edgar Bergen and Charlie McCarthy. I think the Democratic voters will hugely outnumber the Republican voters for many reasons.
If Obama conducts an effective campaign against McCain, and there"s no reason he won"t, since McCain is really appearing to be an ignorant dufus, you have to take into account some 77 million voters who didn"t vote in the primaries. The primary voters are only a subset of a much larger number of voters.
What I"m saying is that the percentage of avid supporters of either Hillary or Obama in the primary race doesn"t necessarily predict an equivalent break in those who lean Democratic among the remaining 77M voters, with Hillary supporters peeling off to McCain. Most voters will vote for the candidate who seems to best represent their interests, and it has little to do with the primary fight between Clinton and Obama. The divide then will be Republican/Democrat. posted 05/10/2008 at 15:03:57
Clinton Still Attacking Obama On Campaign Trail
Mayoyo
I thought it was hilarious and wished I'd come up with the analogy originally! posted 05/10/2008 at 14:51:55
I thought it was hilarious and wished I'd come up with the analogy originally! posted 05/10/2008 at 14:51:55
Unfortunately, Hillary's still pushing the for-profit managed health care provider competition, not managed health care.
Here's why it failed before:
http://www.counterpunch.org/navarro11122007.html posted 05/10/2008 at 14:42:55
Here's why it failed before:
http://www.counterpunch.org/navarro11122007.html posted 05/10/2008 at 14:42:55
Hillary STILL attacking Obama...
As someone else has said, Hillary Clinton reminds us of those Japanese soldiers in WW II who hid on Guam and in the Philippines for 20 years, and continued fighting people because they thought the war was still on.
http://www.wanpela.com/holdouts/profiles/yokoi/obituary.html posted 05/10/2008 at 13:59:53
As someone else has said, Hillary Clinton reminds us of those Japanese soldiers in WW II who hid on Guam and in the Philippines for 20 years, and continued fighting people because they thought the war was still on.
http://www.wanpela.com/holdouts/profiles/yokoi/obituary.html posted 05/10/2008 at 13:59:53
Obama Suggests Offer Maybe Clinton Can't Refuse
Just about a year ago, Hillary announced she would help pay off Tom Vilsack's campaign debt of $400,000.
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"A representative for Clinton's campaign said they are not sure how their campaign will do that. They concede that at some point, Clinton will have to contact her supporters."
http://www.kcci.com/politics/11407584/detail.html?rss=des&psp=news
In return, Vilsack gave Hillary his endorsement for her presidential campaign.
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This is old-style Washington political maneuvering, and Senator Obama has an obligation to reject this kind of favor-trading. He certainly isn't going to have time between now and the inauguration to devote any serious efforts to help her much. He can lawfully ask his supporters to contribute to her debt-relief, but not much more. If he does this much, under his own rules of ethics, he still isn't obligated to promise her a place in his administration as a reward.
She is neither a gracious campaigner or loser. posted 05/11/2008 at 10:58:52
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"A representative for Clinton's campaign said they are not sure how their campaign will do that. They concede that at some point, Clinton will have to contact her supporters."
http://www.kcci.com/politics/11407584/detail.html?rss=des&psp=news
In return, Vilsack gave Hillary his endorsement for her presidential campaign.
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This is old-style Washington political maneuvering, and Senator Obama has an obligation to reject this kind of favor-trading. He certainly isn't going to have time between now and the inauguration to devote any serious efforts to help her much. He can lawfully ask his supporters to contribute to her debt-relief, but not much more. If he does this much, under his own rules of ethics, he still isn't obligated to promise her a place in his administration as a reward.
She is neither a gracious campaigner or loser. posted 05/11/2008 at 10:58:52
McCain Camp Insists Obama Is Playing Age Card
Well, I'm not interested in John McCain's age, so I didn't assume Obama was referring to it. Being accused of "going off-course" by making outrageous and unfounded statements about your opponent when you've claimed you aren't going to conduct ugly campaigning and smears is merely a polite way to say that you forgot your pledge and strayed from it.
So what I want to know from John McCain is how he'd describe a Senator who authored a bill making torture illegal that became US law and yet when the President gave him the finger on that new law, that Senator meekly agreed that the president could violate it if he wanted.
I'd describe that Senator as "going off course" if I wanted to be polite. "Without integrity" is more accurate. posted 05/09/2008 at 10:22:14
So what I want to know from John McCain is how he'd describe a Senator who authored a bill making torture illegal that became US law and yet when the President gave him the finger on that new law, that Senator meekly agreed that the president could violate it if he wanted.
I'd describe that Senator as "going off course" if I wanted to be polite. "Without integrity" is more accurate. posted 05/09/2008 at 10:22:14
Obama Camp Faces Major Obstacles In Plan To Help Clinton Pay Off Debt
It was Tim Russert's idea. Google his name and "debt" if you want to see what he said. posted 05/09/2008 at 09:30:06
Hell, why don't the Clintons just pay off her debts themselves and absorb the loss. With an earned income of $109M since Bill left office, they can easily pay her debts of $20-$40M and have plenty left over. posted 05/09/2008 at 09:25:24
journey80
It's being discussed because Tim Russert said Obama could do this. And some politicians in the past have done this with candidates who left campaigns with outstanding debts.
But it's old Washington politics, based on the belief that anything and everything is okay in the end, no matter what damage it causes to voters or America, it will be put aside. John McCain's embrace of Bush after Bush's racist trashing of him in South Carolina is a perfect example. A person of integrity does not lightly "forgive" attacks on one's honor and decency absent remorse or public apology. One can "give up" one's anger or disappoint caused by the wrong-doer, but in no case should an unrepentant wrong-doer suffer no consequences. posted 05/09/2008 at 09:17:42
It's being discussed because Tim Russert said Obama could do this. And some politicians in the past have done this with candidates who left campaigns with outstanding debts.
But it's old Washington politics, based on the belief that anything and everything is okay in the end, no matter what damage it causes to voters or America, it will be put aside. John McCain's embrace of Bush after Bush's racist trashing of him in South Carolina is a perfect example. A person of integrity does not lightly "forgive" attacks on one's honor and decency absent remorse or public apology. One can "give up" one's anger or disappoint caused by the wrong-doer, but in no case should an unrepentant wrong-doer suffer no consequences. posted 05/09/2008 at 09:17:42
I think people may understand that and are expressing outrage that Obama would be asked to help pay off her debts after her ugly campaigning against him. His supporters are invested in him because he's perceived to be fair and has committed himself to leaving old-style Washington politics behind. This idea is certainly old-style Washington politics.
Yet from a practical perspective, maybe it would help heal the hostility of Clinton supporters toward Obama's win of the nomination. I only say maybe, though.
America needs him to campaign against John McCain, not spend any time and energy on helping Hillary pay off her astronomical debt. Stephanoupolos said yesterday he believes her debt now is at least $20M and maybe higher. posted 05/08/2008 at 23:32:49
Yet from a practical perspective, maybe it would help heal the hostility of Clinton supporters toward Obama's win of the nomination. I only say maybe, though.
America needs him to campaign against John McCain, not spend any time and energy on helping Hillary pay off her astronomical debt. Stephanoupolos said yesterday he believes her debt now is at least $20M and maybe higher. posted 05/08/2008 at 23:32:49
"Can't she just write that money off of her taxes?"
No, under the law a candidate's loans to the candidate's campaign that remain unpaid by the candidate's fundraising by the time the candidate drops out are not tax deductible.
IOW, if she does not raise the money to pay herself back that $11.6M dollars, she loses it and it isn't tax-deductible. See the Slate link given in a prior post:
http://www.slate.com/id/2190880/
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I appreciate Obama's generosity in considering helping Hillary out in the interests of healing the breach, but Hillary certainly isn't encouraging him with her continued race-baiting. She has grossly insulted his contributors as well as Obama, and things might be very different if his fundraising were old-style corporate donations. But his fundraising includes money given to him by many people who could hardly afford it, and they justifiably don't want their money or the candidate who has not relied on the old political financing for his campaign to pay off her debts.
Why don't the DLC or Hillary's friends in the Senate and elsewhere do the fundraising for her? She has the corporate and lobbyist moneyed base, not Obama. They can't ALL have maxed out permitted contributions to her campaign.
Senator Obama, your supporters would encourage you, if you wish to help her, to certainly not cover any of her debts with your supporters' contributions. posted 05/08/2008 at 23:14:47
No, under the law a candidate's loans to the candidate's campaign that remain unpaid by the candidate's fundraising by the time the candidate drops out are not tax deductible.
IOW, if she does not raise the money to pay herself back that $11.6M dollars, she loses it and it isn't tax-deductible. See the Slate link given in a prior post:
http://www.slate.com/id/2190880/
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I appreciate Obama's generosity in considering helping Hillary out in the interests of healing the breach, but Hillary certainly isn't encouraging him with her continued race-baiting. She has grossly insulted his contributors as well as Obama, and things might be very different if his fundraising were old-style corporate donations. But his fundraising includes money given to him by many people who could hardly afford it, and they justifiably don't want their money or the candidate who has not relied on the old political financing for his campaign to pay off her debts.
Why don't the DLC or Hillary's friends in the Senate and elsewhere do the fundraising for her? She has the corporate and lobbyist moneyed base, not Obama. They can't ALL have maxed out permitted contributions to her campaign.
Senator Obama, your supporters would encourage you, if you wish to help her, to certainly not cover any of her debts with your supporters' contributions. posted 05/08/2008 at 23:14:47
Clinton's Open Letter To Obama On MI and FL
Is there a deadline for entering the presidential race?
That's an interesting proposition, but Hillary has money problems much worse than she's letting on. When she withdraws, she flat-out loses that $11M dollars she's loaned herself (and NOT tax-deductible) unless she is able to raise enough funds to cover it before she leaves. The rules DO allow her to continue fundraising after she drops out to pay her other debts, just not the loans to her campaign.
I don't see how she can continue to campaign as it is. And she'd lose the support of all the Democratic bigwigs, no money from the Democratic party at all. There isn't a terribly wealthy Independent party structure either. posted 05/08/2008 at 20:37:12
That's an interesting proposition, but Hillary has money problems much worse than she's letting on. When she withdraws, she flat-out loses that $11M dollars she's loaned herself (and NOT tax-deductible) unless she is able to raise enough funds to cover it before she leaves. The rules DO allow her to continue fundraising after she drops out to pay her other debts, just not the loans to her campaign.
I don't see how she can continue to campaign as it is. And she'd lose the support of all the Democratic bigwigs, no money from the Democratic party at all. There isn't a terribly wealthy Independent party structure either. posted 05/08/2008 at 20:37:12
Why Women Gladly Date Ugly Men (And Probably Even Prefer Them)
Horus
I think most women want men to protect them against the worst in the man himself. And to protect her against the worst in other men. posted 05/15/2008 at 17:01:54
I think most women want men to protect them against the worst in the man himself. And to protect her against the worst in other men. posted 05/15/2008 at 17:01:54
Big Rewards Await Clinton If She Ends Campaign Now
Did you win your 4th grade spelling bee to get to be the spelling monitor? posted 05/09/2008 at 20:51:57
Various legislators DO occasionally raise money for the campaign debts of their colleagues (you can see places to donate on their websites), but no doubt they have friendly and respectful relationships with those colleagues.
I'm sure Hillary has other friends in Congress who can raise money for her debts on THEIR websites. posted 05/07/2008 at 21:17:49
I'm sure Hillary has other friends in Congress who can raise money for her debts on THEIR websites. posted 05/07/2008 at 21:17:49
I think that's an excellent suggestion! But fair conditions need to be met. posted 05/07/2008 at 21:11:33
Well, well, men and women. About Obama paying Hillary's debt? (BTW, the repayment of Hillary's debt back to her requires interest payments on the loan, too, heaping potential insult on injury.)
I am QUITE sure this is an idea being floated by the Hillary camp. As you know, she's now lent herself more than $16M and has other debts on top of those two loans. Slate has a very interesting piece on what happens if Hillary can't pay her debts by the time she drops out. It's here:
http://www.slate.com/id/2190880/
Look at this:
Debt retirement gets a little more complicated when candidates lend their own money to their campaign. After an election is over, any campaign contributions that go toward repaying the candidate's own loans serve, in practice, as money directly into a politician's pocket. As a result, campaign law (PDF) now limits to $250,000 the amount a campaign committee can repay the candidate after the election. In the case of the Democratic primary, the election will end when a nominee is selected in Denver. So unless Clinton is able to raise enough money to pay herself back by then, she'll have to write off millions of dollars she lent to her campaign.
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See what I mean? The Clintons are at risk of losing almost all of that money they've lent her campaign. posted 05/07/2008 at 20:33:45
I am QUITE sure this is an idea being floated by the Hillary camp. As you know, she's now lent herself more than $16M and has other debts on top of those two loans. Slate has a very interesting piece on what happens if Hillary can't pay her debts by the time she drops out. It's here:
http://www.slate.com/id/2190880/
Look at this:
Debt retirement gets a little more complicated when candidates lend their own money to their campaign. After an election is over, any campaign contributions that go toward repaying the candidate's own loans serve, in practice, as money directly into a politician's pocket. As a result, campaign law (PDF) now limits to $250,000 the amount a campaign committee can repay the candidate after the election. In the case of the Democratic primary, the election will end when a nominee is selected in Denver. So unless Clinton is able to raise enough money to pay herself back by then, she'll have to write off millions of dollars she lent to her campaign.
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See what I mean? The Clintons are at risk of losing almost all of that money they've lent her campaign. posted 05/07/2008 at 20:33:45
"If she leaves the stage gracefully, as Gore did in 2000, she will be able to rebuild her political capital within the party fairly quickly, and over time most of her perceived and real sins will be long forgiven and/or forgotten," said Dan Gerstein, a Democratic consultant and Obama supporter.
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Whoa! Hillary may be able to " rebuild her political capital within the party fairly quickly" but not with voters. She's someone that has been in Americans' awareness for two decades, and until recently her name recognition brought a lot of positives with it.
"...over time most of her perceived and real sins will be long forgiven and/or forgotten."
I don't believe this. This campaign will go down in history because it has been unique -- a woman and a Black man running for the presidency at the same time is certainly notable. Hillary's campaign "sins" will remain in the history books because at least this time around, Obama campaigned in an entirely different way than old time politics, and what she's done with her lies and ugly campaigning stands out in stark relief against it.
Even more important than anything that's been mentioned that might result from Hillary's playing nice now (for her to be restored to political grace in the party itself) would be for her to convince her "base" to support the Democratic nominee, no matter who that is. Obama will keep a friendly door open but he cannot do it all himself. posted 05/07/2008 at 19:25:03
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Whoa! Hillary may be able to " rebuild her political capital within the party fairly quickly" but not with voters. She's someone that has been in Americans' awareness for two decades, and until recently her name recognition brought a lot of positives with it.
"...over time most of her perceived and real sins will be long forgiven and/or forgotten."
I don't believe this. This campaign will go down in history because it has been unique -- a woman and a Black man running for the presidency at the same time is certainly notable. Hillary's campaign "sins" will remain in the history books because at least this time around, Obama campaigned in an entirely different way than old time politics, and what she's done with her lies and ugly campaigning stands out in stark relief against it.
Even more important than anything that's been mentioned that might result from Hillary's playing nice now (for her to be restored to political grace in the party itself) would be for her to convince her "base" to support the Democratic nominee, no matter who that is. Obama will keep a friendly door open but he cannot do it all himself. posted 05/07/2008 at 19:25:03
Another "The Hillary I Know"
HILARY ROSEN: "If I read one more time that Hillary Clinton's goal is to ruin Barack Obama's chances in the fall or that she won't do as she promised and work hard for the Democratic nominee or she doesn't care about the Democratic party or the issues I'm gonna scream -- or cry cause I am a girl."
If these AREN'T her goals, why does she continue to attack Obama even today? She'll turn on a dime? The way for her to show people she plans to support Obama is to stop attacking him and fix her sights on McCain. But she hasn't changed her tune one iota since she realized she was losing.
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HILARY ROSEN: "The outcries today calling for her head..."
Hilary, have you noticed who is actually telling her it's time to close the curtain? It's the party leaders close to her, who have stood by her. And of course, the media, as well as people who see there's just no way she can win the nomination. Her continued campaigning, particularly her continuing attacks on Obama, is extremely destructive.
Everyone who's ever committed a wrong can find SOMEBODY to testify to their goodness. We see it in court cases all the time. What are you thinking?
More testimonials about Hillary's past "goodness" won't matter to those she has denigrated, discounted, and marginalized. Those tales don't undo her actions that we've all seen. posted 05/08/2008 at 21:32:25
If these AREN'T her goals, why does she continue to attack Obama even today? She'll turn on a dime? The way for her to show people she plans to support Obama is to stop attacking him and fix her sights on McCain. But she hasn't changed her tune one iota since she realized she was losing.
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HILARY ROSEN: "The outcries today calling for her head..."
Hilary, have you noticed who is actually telling her it's time to close the curtain? It's the party leaders close to her, who have stood by her. And of course, the media, as well as people who see there's just no way she can win the nomination. Her continued campaigning, particularly her continuing attacks on Obama, is extremely destructive.
Everyone who's ever committed a wrong can find SOMEBODY to testify to their goodness. We see it in court cases all the time. What are you thinking?
More testimonials about Hillary's past "goodness" won't matter to those she has denigrated, discounted, and marginalized. Those tales don't undo her actions that we've all seen. posted 05/08/2008 at 21:32:25
Dianne Feinstein To Clinton: Show Me Your Plan
Hell, if she weren't a Clinton, she wouldn't even be in the RACE. posted 05/07/2008 at 16:39:17
Obama's Clinton Dilemma
JBS
Obama's record is certainly NOT like Hillary's. She's a warmonger at heart, very much in the mold of GW Bush as indicated by her Iraq, Iran, and cluster bomb votes, her recent threat to obliterate Iran. Hillary and Obama's pre-war stands are also very different. You CANNOT gloss over their differences to try to make them similar candidates.
Furthermore, I am not convinced there is fighting "among ourselves" but rather a candidate who's insisted on making inter-party war for her own self-aggrandizement and egging her supporters into hostility against the other candidate by the kind of kitchen-sink campaigning she's done. Those things matter. When she is out of the spotlight, maybe that's when we can unite. posted 05/07/2008 at 13:09:35
Obama's record is certainly NOT like Hillary's. She's a warmonger at heart, very much in the mold of GW Bush as indicated by her Iraq, Iran, and cluster bomb votes, her recent threat to obliterate Iran. Hillary and Obama's pre-war stands are also very different. You CANNOT gloss over their differences to try to make them similar candidates.
Furthermore, I am not convinced there is fighting "among ourselves" but rather a candidate who's insisted on making inter-party war for her own self-aggrandizement and egging her supporters into hostility against the other candidate by the kind of kitchen-sink campaigning she's done. Those things matter. When she is out of the spotlight, maybe that's when we can unite. posted 05/07/2008 at 13:09:35
kgb999
Many many people do believe that the only reason Hillary's staying in the race is to make sure Obama loses the GE, by giving the Republicans ammunition against him.
So you may not be off by much in concluding that if the Democrats don't win the GE, many will blame Hillary.
But Obama isn't going to lose the GE. Poor John McCain hasn't even been challenged yet, and he dodders around, confused about what he said yesterday and the day before, ignorant about the economy, blathering nonsense about Iraq, laughing about bombing Iran, still unfortunately allied with Bush, etc. His own party doesn't even support him.
He's toast. posted 05/07/2008 at 12:27:51
Many many people do believe that the only reason Hillary's staying in the race is to make sure Obama loses the GE, by giving the Republicans ammunition against him.
So you may not be off by much in concluding that if the Democrats don't win the GE, many will blame Hillary.
But Obama isn't going to lose the GE. Poor John McCain hasn't even been challenged yet, and he dodders around, confused about what he said yesterday and the day before, ignorant about the economy, blathering nonsense about Iraq, laughing about bombing Iran, still unfortunately allied with Bush, etc. His own party doesn't even support him.
He's toast. posted 05/07/2008 at 12:27:51
kgb999
Many many people do believe that the only reason Hillary's staying in the race is to make sure Obama loses the GE, by giving the Republicans ammunition against him.
So you may not be off by much in concluding that if the Democrats don't win the GE, many will blame Hillary.
But Obama isn't going to lose the GE. Poor John McCain hasn't even been challenged yet, and he dodders around, confused about what he said yesterday and the day before, ignorant about the economy, blathering nonsense about Iraq, laughing about bombing Iran, still unfortunately allied with Bush, etc. His own party doesn't even support him.
He's toast. posted 05/07/2008 at 12:17:05
Many many people do believe that the only reason Hillary's staying in the race is to make sure Obama loses the GE, by giving the Republicans ammunition against him.
So you may not be off by much in concluding that if the Democrats don't win the GE, many will blame Hillary.
But Obama isn't going to lose the GE. Poor John McCain hasn't even been challenged yet, and he dodders around, confused about what he said yesterday and the day before, ignorant about the economy, blathering nonsense about Iraq, laughing about bombing Iran, still unfortunately allied with Bush, etc. His own party doesn't even support him.
He's toast. posted 05/07/2008 at 12:17:05
Nofuzzydreams
Well, I DID say that some Hillary supporters are right-wingers and will go for McCain. All Obama can do is keep that friendly door open and hope you'll find non-partisan issues to join in on sooner or later. Obama has as much experience as Bill Clinton had as a new president, but Obama has something even better. He has good judgment and integrity, neither of which Bill Clinton had. So nobody's worried about Obama's qualifications, but McCain's integrity and judgment are certainly questionable.
Keep on hoping, but there's no way in HELL your preferred president McCain will win the GE. He's tied at the hip to Bush and the neocon agenda. He doesn't know from one day to the next what he said the day before. He called his wife a cunt in public. He has a volatile temper and a foul mouth. And he's ignorant. He's dead meat. posted 05/07/2008 at 10:25:01
Well, I DID say that some Hillary supporters are right-wingers and will go for McCain. All Obama can do is keep that friendly door open and hope you'll find non-partisan issues to join in on sooner or later. Obama has as much experience as Bill Clinton had as a new president, but Obama has something even better. He has good judgment and integrity, neither of which Bill Clinton had. So nobody's worried about Obama's qualifications, but McCain's integrity and judgment are certainly questionable.
Keep on hoping, but there's no way in HELL your preferred president McCain will win the GE. He's tied at the hip to Bush and the neocon agenda. He doesn't know from one day to the next what he said the day before. He called his wife a cunt in public. He has a volatile temper and a foul mouth. And he's ignorant. He's dead meat. posted 05/07/2008 at 10:25:01
I absolutely agree.
The Clintons have done quite well from themselves since Bill left the WH. Bill loves wheeling and dealing on questionable projects in big money circles. Hillary showed no interest as a Senator in improving either American lives or the American government that Bush has trashed. So there's no reason to put them at the head of any list that Obama may make. I think they've found their niche on the outside of the WH and can just stay there. There are plenty of other Democrats that Obama can appoint and recommend as his advisers, Supreme Court, and cabinet members who are much more interested in his principles of government than either of the Clintons. posted 05/07/2008 at 09:30:27
The Clintons have done quite well from themselves since Bill left the WH. Bill loves wheeling and dealing on questionable projects in big money circles. Hillary showed no interest as a Senator in improving either American lives or the American government that Bush has trashed. So there's no reason to put them at the head of any list that Obama may make. I think they've found their niche on the outside of the WH and can just stay there. There are plenty of other Democrats that Obama can appoint and recommend as his advisers, Supreme Court, and cabinet members who are much more interested in his principles of government than either of the Clintons. posted 05/07/2008 at 09:30:27
I'd personally rather see the Clintons fade into the obscurity they so richly deserve. But of course that doesn't solve the problem of the Clinton supporters.
I have been convinced all along that Hillary was getting a lot of right-wing support because she herself is a right-winger, that her campaigning style and her foreign policy proposals appealed to them because they were familiar. If Obama's win of the nomination puts many of Hillary's supporters into John McCain's hands, I think they would be there anyway were Hillary not running. There's not a whole lot that Obama can do to win over real right-wingers, and it would be a heartbreaker to try. All he can do is keep a friendly door open and hope that the next few years open up opportunities for us to act and react in non-partisan ways to events.
Many Hillary supporters will probably end up in the "undecided" slice of the pie, really disappointed, and looking for a place to land. I've already been there twice in this election, having "lost" Kucinich and then Edwards. That is definitely not a comfortable zone to be in. But when the GE campaign between McCain and Obama begins in earnest, I think much of what has gone before in the nomination process will be forgotten. McCain really does represent the neocons and the Bush administration, and once Obama makes the choices clear, I believe people will vote in their own self-interests, not for McCain. posted 05/07/2008 at 09:14:34
I have been convinced all along that Hillary was getting a lot of right-wing support because she herself is a right-winger, that her campaigning style and her foreign policy proposals appealed to them because they were familiar. If Obama's win of the nomination puts many of Hillary's supporters into John McCain's hands, I think they would be there anyway were Hillary not running. There's not a whole lot that Obama can do to win over real right-wingers, and it would be a heartbreaker to try. All he can do is keep a friendly door open and hope that the next few years open up opportunities for us to act and react in non-partisan ways to events.
Many Hillary supporters will probably end up in the "undecided" slice of the pie, really disappointed, and looking for a place to land. I've already been there twice in this election, having "lost" Kucinich and then Edwards. That is definitely not a comfortable zone to be in. But when the GE campaign between McCain and Obama begins in earnest, I think much of what has gone before in the nomination process will be forgotten. McCain really does represent the neocons and the Bush administration, and once Obama makes the choices clear, I believe people will vote in their own self-interests, not for McCain. posted 05/07/2008 at 09:14:34
Myanmar cyclone death toll soars past 22,000: state radio
Chuckwheat
In most countries, including the US, the majority of their populations live near the sea. It's attractive for many reasons, and for the poverty-stricken, it's often the food that can be harvested from the sea. Might as well tell people to leave areas where tornados are common, or earthquakes, or volcano eruptions. If it's not one thing, it's another. posted 05/06/2008 at 17:23:04
In most countries, including the US, the majority of their populations live near the sea. It's attractive for many reasons, and for the poverty-stricken, it's often the food that can be harvested from the sea. Might as well tell people to leave areas where tornados are common, or earthquakes, or volcano eruptions. If it's not one thing, it's another. posted 05/06/2008 at 17:23:04
This is a catastrophe. If the Myanmar government does not permit aid organizations in immediately, it's quite likely there will be disease outbreaks (a possible 50,000 bodies to find and bury in the heat?) and starvation.
I wish blessings could be bestowed on the survivors but I'm sure nothing of the sort will happen. posted 05/06/2008 at 17:18:24
I wish blessings could be bestowed on the survivors but I'm sure nothing of the sort will happen. posted 05/06/2008 at 17:18:24
Clinton Camp Tries To Redefine Delegate Math
One thing she didn't take into account -- she hoped Obama would make a terrible mistake and prove his presidential unworthiness, but she never anticipated SHE'd be the one making that mistake. I think that's called "hoist on one's petard".
That's like Wile E. Coyote.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2kZEicde8Wo&feature=related posted 05/06/2008 at 15:48:47
That's like Wile E. Coyote.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2kZEicde8Wo&feature=related posted 05/06/2008 at 15:48:47
Obama did NOT "stop the revotes". It was the states' responsibility to have new Democratic primaries if that's what the voters wanted. They chose not to do that. posted 05/06/2008 at 15:30:31
I honestly don't understand the Clinton camp math. There's no REASON given why the nomination shouldn't be won by the candidate who reaches 2,025 votes. Does she believe that Obama will reach that number first, but she can do something at the convention itself to get more votes than that?
Can somebody explain it better than the Hillary camp has? posted 05/06/2008 at 15:06:21
Can somebody explain it better than the Hillary camp has? posted 05/06/2008 at 15:06:21
Indiana, North Carolina Primaries: Voters Get Ready To Settle Remaining Contests
From the Raleigh News & Observer
High percentages of blacks, women vote
Almost 40 percent of early voters were black.
According to information posted by the State Board of Elections and analyzed here, 39.9 percent of the 495,828 North Carolinians casting ballots at one-stop sites this year were African-American.
At the same time, slightly more than 60 percent were women.
Both figures may not hold through the end of the day, however. It's possible that black and female voters who turned out early would have voted on Election Day regardless.
The question remains how many voters turned out who otherwise would not have voted. With lines at polling places steady, but not overwhelming so far, turnout may not be as high as predicted.
Related: If black turnout stays at 40 percent, Obama will win big. posted 05/06/2008 at 16:46:51
High percentages of blacks, women vote
Almost 40 percent of early voters were black.
According to information posted by the State Board of Elections and analyzed here, 39.9 percent of the 495,828 North Carolinians casting ballots at one-stop sites this year were African-American.
At the same time, slightly more than 60 percent were women.
Both figures may not hold through the end of the day, however. It's possible that black and female voters who turned out early would have voted on Election Day regardless.
The question remains how many voters turned out who otherwise would not have voted. With lines at polling places steady, but not overwhelming so far, turnout may not be as high as predicted.
Related: If black turnout stays at 40 percent, Obama will win big. posted 05/06/2008 at 16:46:51
On an Obama/Clinton Ticket: A Response to Andrew Sullivan
Obama would lose the general? What have you been smoking?
McCain is attached at the hip to Bush, dodders, has temper tantrums, calls his wife a cunt, never seems to know what his position is on anything from day to day, is quite happy to leave Americans in Iraq for 100 years (and yes, he DID say that), has no universal health care plan, and would unilaterally bomb Iran. That's just for starters.
McCain hasn't been seriously challenged during the campaign because the two Democratic candidates are having it out. He'll be toast when he's in the spotlight, dead meat, a goner. posted 05/06/2008 at 08:44:48
McCain is attached at the hip to Bush, dodders, has temper tantrums, calls his wife a cunt, never seems to know what his position is on anything from day to day, is quite happy to leave Americans in Iraq for 100 years (and yes, he DID say that), has no universal health care plan, and would unilaterally bomb Iran. That's just for starters.
McCain hasn't been seriously challenged during the campaign because the two Democratic candidates are having it out. He'll be toast when he's in the spotlight, dead meat, a goner. posted 05/06/2008 at 08:44:48
I'd love to see Obama select Kathleen Sebelius of Kansas as his vice presidential running mate. If Hillary's largest base has been working-class women, Sebelius from the heartland would attract them when Hillary's out of the picture.
Here she is endorsing Obama:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nHp90Z2NJk
She is gracious and speaks comfortably and freely. She looks vice presidential and might indeed be an outstanding presidential candidate in eight years. posted 05/06/2008 at 07:25:59
Here she is endorsing Obama:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nHp90Z2NJk
She is gracious and speaks comfortably and freely. She looks vice presidential and might indeed be an outstanding presidential candidate in eight years. posted 05/06/2008 at 07:25:59
Bill: "I Didn't Come Here To Ask You To Vote For My Wife"
And to which god should we pray for Hillary?
Mars, the god of war?
Or perhaps Satan? "All liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death." Rev. 21:8
Sorry, Bill, but it's quite likely that none of us prays to Hillary's god. posted 05/05/2008 at 12:24:49
Mars, the god of war?
Or perhaps Satan? "All liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death." Rev. 21:8
Sorry, Bill, but it's quite likely that none of us prays to Hillary's god. posted 05/05/2008 at 12:24:49
Latest Indiana And North Carolina Polling Averages
What I don't understand is why the "housekeeping" purges of no-longer valid voter registrations is not conducted AFTER elections, not just before them. That makes much more sense than denying citizens who would be wrongfully purged their right to vote.
We all know what happened in Florida.
The Obama campaign needs to deal with this TODAY! posted 05/05/2008 at 13:22:20
We all know what happened in Florida.
The Obama campaign needs to deal with this TODAY! posted 05/05/2008 at 13:22:20
I'd never "attack" a female candidate.
I'd attack a candidate who lies, who enables racism and xenophobia to be triggered against her opponent, who's a warmonger, who panders to the ignorant with promises she doesn't fulfill, and who has penis envy. But I'd never attack a woman. posted 05/05/2008 at 12:04:53
I'd attack a candidate who lies, who enables racism and xenophobia to be triggered against her opponent, who's a warmonger, who panders to the ignorant with promises she doesn't fulfill, and who has penis envy. But I'd never attack a woman. posted 05/05/2008 at 12:04:53
US-backed plan sees shiny future for Green Zone in Iraq
Jesus Christ!
These "US plans" are so far beyond what is just and legal that I want to throw up.
The invasion was illegal, the bombing and death were illegal, the occupation was and is illegal, the torture of Iraqis was and is illegal, the whole frigging VENTURE was and is illegal.
And the Bush administration wants to make the green zone like home? Will showering dignitaries be electrocuted and raped? Will they be hit by Iraqi mortar and roadside bombs and suicide bombers? Will they be murdered by Iraqis who want America to leave? How DARE they do this to a sovereign country?
I am beyond outrage. posted 05/04/2008 at 19:39:49
These "US plans" are so far beyond what is just and legal that I want to throw up.
The invasion was illegal, the bombing and death were illegal, the occupation was and is illegal, the torture of Iraqis was and is illegal, the whole frigging VENTURE was and is illegal.
And the Bush administration wants to make the green zone like home? Will showering dignitaries be electrocuted and raped? Will they be hit by Iraqi mortar and roadside bombs and suicide bombers? Will they be murdered by Iraqis who want America to leave? How DARE they do this to a sovereign country?
I am beyond outrage. posted 05/04/2008 at 19:39:49
Carville: If Hillary Gave Obama "One Of Her Cojones, They'd Both Have Two"
I think the bitterness and bravado coming out of Hillary's campaign is that they see all their "power" slipping away from them when Obama wins the nomination and the GE.
With the old guard Democrats, Hillary and her hangers-on expected to be very solidly in the middle of things when the next president was a Democrat They never DREAMED that the "activist left wing" of the party would gain ascendence with the rise of an uppity Black newcomer, highly-educated, eloquent, and a decent human being! This has them all desperate, from Hillary down the line to her old staffers and dealmakers. They already made too many enemies within the left wing of the Democratic party by marginalizing and spitting on them during Bill Clinton's years and now during Hillary's campaign. They're going to be as relevant as Hillary's third ball when Obama is elected. posted 05/04/2008 at 15:35:42
With the old guard Democrats, Hillary and her hangers-on expected to be very solidly in the middle of things when the next president was a Democrat They never DREAMED that the "activist left wing" of the party would gain ascendence with the rise of an uppity Black newcomer, highly-educated, eloquent, and a decent human being! This has them all desperate, from Hillary down the line to her old staffers and dealmakers. They already made too many enemies within the left wing of the Democratic party by marginalizing and spitting on them during Bill Clinton's years and now during Hillary's campaign. They're going to be as relevant as Hillary's third ball when Obama is elected. posted 05/04/2008 at 15:35:42
Clinton Defends 'Obliterate Iran' Comment, Obama Calls It Bush-Style 'Cowboy Diplomacy'
We'd think they were as crazy as the "Madman" North Korean dictator, Kim Jong II, who has been from time to time off his rocker. posted 05/04/2008 at 14:36:47
Why should Hillary Clinton drag the US into a nuclear war if the US is not the country attacked? That's EXACTLY when US diplomacy is needed to prevent Mutually Assured Destruction or a midEast nuclear holocaust. Only a FOOL would take America into a nuclear war that didn't involve America in the first place.
This is Hillary's penis envy operating again, along with her sniper fire, boilermakers, and guns. She wants to be one of the "tough boys". Iran will never attack Israel with a nuclear weapon. They'd obliterate themselves with radioactive fallout. posted 05/04/2008 at 13:16:54
This is Hillary's penis envy operating again, along with her sniper fire, boilermakers, and guns. She wants to be one of the "tough boys". Iran will never attack Israel with a nuclear weapon. They'd obliterate themselves with radioactive fallout. posted 05/04/2008 at 13:16:54
Clinton Gas Tax Holiday: Hillary Attacks Economists
I am convinced Hillary has PENIS ENVY, meaning a female envy of men. It struck me between the eyes when she began her macho Rocky Balboa identification, her "tough talk" about destroying Iran, her beer and whiskey shots, her comfortable familiarity with guns and hunting.
She could just as well have talked about how she identified with the female version of "working class" America, working her fingers to the bone at two low-paying jobs, one of them waitressing, coming home from work to cook a family meal, getting up during the night with a sick child, dealing with an uncouth husband (well, we know she did that, but she doesn't want to talk about it) or perhaps a husband who was in despair because he lost his job, dancing in country-western bars -- you get the (stereotyped) picture.
But she didn't do that. She made alliance with the stereotyped working class man, not the working class woman.
Maybe Freud's "penis envy" wasn't all a crock. posted 05/04/2008 at 11:31:59
She could just as well have talked about how she identified with the female version of "working class" America, working her fingers to the bone at two low-paying jobs, one of them waitressing, coming home from work to cook a family meal, getting up during the night with a sick child, dealing with an uncouth husband (well, we know she did that, but she doesn't want to talk about it) or perhaps a husband who was in despair because he lost his job, dancing in country-western bars -- you get the (stereotyped) picture.
But she didn't do that. She made alliance with the stereotyped working class man, not the working class woman.
Maybe Freud's "penis envy" wasn't all a crock. posted 05/04/2008 at 11:31:59
Hillary, you might as well have said what you really mean -- "Economists who disagree with me and threaten to show voters that I don't know what I'm talking about are a pain in the ass." Hillary, your base will understand THAT.
The truth is that economists ARE the elite, the most knowledgeable about the economy and what works to benefit people. So you're calling on those who are the least knowledgeable to vote for you on the basis of a promise you can't keep.
Okay, gotcha! We'll make sure the voters know that. posted 05/04/2008 at 11:03:45
The truth is that economists ARE the elite, the most knowledgeable about the economy and what works to benefit people. So you're calling on those who are the least knowledgeable to vote for you on the basis of a promise you can't keep.
Okay, gotcha! We'll make sure the voters know that. posted 05/04/2008 at 11:03:45
NC Political Class Says Edwards Lacks Clout
Hillary Clinton vs. John Edwards: Voting Records
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/1/21/1819/60834
YOU list what made him "Clinton-lite", since you're making the claim. Do you fear he'll "give" his delegates to Clinton?
And what the hell does it matter now if he was out to break the back of political corporatism? He isn't in the race now, and furthermore, he's waited way too long to make an endorsement -- the majority of his supporters have peeled off to other candidates.
I'm one of them who's supporting Obama now, a Constitutional scholar whose understanding of America's governing structure can bring us back to sanity and perhaps the beginning of snuffing political corporatism if a majority of Congress supports that goal. We know that many in Congress don't want to shut the door on the goose who lays golden eggs for them. posted 05/04/2008 at 10:19:11
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/1/21/1819/60834
YOU list what made him "Clinton-lite", since you're making the claim. Do you fear he'll "give" his delegates to Clinton?
And what the hell does it matter now if he was out to break the back of political corporatism? He isn't in the race now, and furthermore, he's waited way too long to make an endorsement -- the majority of his supporters have peeled off to other candidates.
I'm one of them who's supporting Obama now, a Constitutional scholar whose understanding of America's governing structure can bring us back to sanity and perhaps the beginning of snuffing political corporatism if a majority of Congress supports that goal. We know that many in Congress don't want to shut the door on the goose who lays golden eggs for them. posted 05/04/2008 at 10:19:11
Get the stardust out of your eyes. John Edwards was a threat to corporatism in American politics; it was the central them of his campaign. Hillary CERTAINLY wasn't and isn't a threat to greedy American corporations. She has their enthusiastic backing -- she won't rock their boat since she gets so much money from them. posted 05/04/2008 at 09:41:22
Hillary's never given her supporters any honorable reason to vote for her or hold her up as a person of integrity that Americans could be proud of as their president. She does appeal to the authoritarian-types, and they can easily be led by her campaign-mouthings to express contempt for Obama that she encourages and enables, as she similarly encourages and enables racism among those in her base who have such leanings. posted 05/04/2008 at 09:29:45
Well, look at the "political class" that makes this claim:
....for someone who is so well-known nationally, he has very little standing in the party in this state," says John Davis, president of the North Carolina Forum for Research and Economic Education (NCFREE), a business-backed organization that conducts political research. "You simply do not hear his name associated with the work in the vineyards and making a difference in terms of fundraisers or endorsements."
A lot of John Edwards' campaign was about the damage that corporatism does to American politics. OF COURSE this group, a "business-backed organization", wants to minimize his impact on American politics. I'm sure they breathed a huge sigh of relief when he dropped out of the nomination race, their fear and trembling easing with the disappearance of a threat to them. posted 05/04/2008 at 09:22:58
....for someone who is so well-known nationally, he has very little standing in the party in this state," says John Davis, president of the North Carolina Forum for Research and Economic Education (NCFREE), a business-backed organization that conducts political research. "You simply do not hear his name associated with the work in the vineyards and making a difference in terms of fundraisers or endorsements."
A lot of John Edwards' campaign was about the damage that corporatism does to American politics. OF COURSE this group, a "business-backed organization", wants to minimize his impact on American politics. I'm sure they breathed a huge sigh of relief when he dropped out of the nomination race, their fear and trembling easing with the disappearance of a threat to them. posted 05/04/2008 at 09:22:58
US Weighing Thousands Of More Troops For Afghanistan
I asked the same question above before scrolling down to read the others.
I'll bet millions of Americans ask the same thing. posted 05/03/2008 at 11:21:27
I'll bet millions of Americans ask the same thing. posted 05/03/2008 at 11:21:27
And where would Gates get these troops? posted 05/03/2008 at 11:17:23
Clinton seeks gas tax vote, Obama calls it 'shell' game
You are absolutely right, and there's no way Americans' income will increase to make up the difference.
I am already extremely concerned about the cost of food -- it is skyrocketing along with the cost of gasoline. Just the other day I saw packaged fish in one of the big box superstore grocery sections with a price tag of $23.99 a POUND. I'm a frugal shopper so buy most of my dry foods and other staples at dollar stores, and even their prices have increased between 15-30% over the last three months.
Unless Congress is able to curb the oil giants' profits in some way on a long-term basis, the falling value of the dollar that affects gasoline prices that affect everything else they touch will guarantee that even more people will have to choose between food or medical care.
Americans should be urging Congress to move ahead on their plans to effectively deal with this economic crisis, not kowtowing to a self-centered politician. posted 05/03/2008 at 11:14:13
I am already extremely concerned about the cost of food -- it is skyrocketing along with the cost of gasoline. Just the other day I saw packaged fish in one of the big box superstore grocery sections with a price tag of $23.99 a POUND. I'm a frugal shopper so buy most of my dry foods and other staples at dollar stores, and even their prices have increased between 15-30% over the last three months.
Unless Congress is able to curb the oil giants' profits in some way on a long-term basis, the falling value of the dollar that affects gasoline prices that affect everything else they touch will guarantee that even more people will have to choose between food or medical care.
Americans should be urging Congress to move ahead on their plans to effectively deal with this economic crisis, not kowtowing to a self-centered politician. posted 05/03/2008 at 11:14:13
The federal excise tax on gasoline & diesel fuel has been the same since 1993, the rate has not increased. It is the fuel costs that have increased. A moratorium on the tax would do nothing to bring down the cost of fuel. Since the taxes go into the Federal Highway Trust fund for the building and repair of America's roads and highways, their loss certainly would result in jobs connected to transportation projects.
Besides, this is all wheel-spinning, a Clinton gimmick. Congress isn't going to pass such a bill, since it would undermine everything else they're working on to address the long-term problem of energy costs in America.
But you can be sure this is JUST how Hillary would act as president, unconcerned about long-term solutions to problems and injecting herself with destructive demands into carefully-wrought solutions for her own political gain. posted 05/03/2008 at 09:03:27
Besides, this is all wheel-spinning, a Clinton gimmick. Congress isn't going to pass such a bill, since it would undermine everything else they're working on to address the long-term problem of energy costs in America.
But you can be sure this is JUST how Hillary would act as president, unconcerned about long-term solutions to problems and injecting herself with destructive demands into carefully-wrought solutions for her own political gain. posted 05/03/2008 at 09:03:27
The Democratic leadership will be very smart to disallow Hillary's pandering "shell game" to come to the floor for a vote, which is probably the plan. Nancy Pelosi has already stated Hillary's proposal is a BAD idea and does not address the problem of skyrocketing gasoline prices.
This move of Hillary's is just another example of "Washington politics", which Americans are SICK of. All she knows is that GW Bush brought the cost of gasoline down before elections, which he trusted would benefit the Republicans. So, she'll try the same scam on Americans. posted 05/03/2008 at 08:30:32
This move of Hillary's is just another example of "Washington politics", which Americans are SICK of. All she knows is that GW Bush brought the cost of gasoline down before elections, which he trusted would benefit the Republicans. So, she'll try the same scam on Americans. posted 05/03/2008 at 08:30:32
Hillary's Psychic Reality
But leogorcey, that's exactly what Bill Clinton said:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/06/16/eveningnews/main623570.shtml
Clinton Cheated 'Because I Could'
Rather: "The central question, if I may, and I know this is difficult, the central question is why?"
Clinton: "I think I did something for the worst possible reason -- just because I could. I think that's the most , just about the most morally indefensible reason that anybody could have for doing anything. When you do something just because you could ... I've thought about it a lot. And there are lots of more sophisticated explanations, more complicated psychological explanations. But none of them are an excuse ... Only a fool does not look to explain his mistakes."
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/06/16/eveningnews/main623570.shtml posted 05/03/2008 at 20:32:49
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/06/16/eveningnews/main623570.shtml
Clinton Cheated 'Because I Could'
Rather: "The central question, if I may, and I know this is difficult, the central question is why?"
Clinton: "I think I did something for the worst possible reason -- just because I could. I think that's the most , just about the most morally indefensible reason that anybody could have for doing anything. When you do something just because you could ... I've thought about it a lot. And there are lots of more sophisticated explanations, more complicated psychological explanations. But none of them are an excuse ... Only a fool does not look to explain his mistakes."
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/06/16/eveningnews/main623570.shtml posted 05/03/2008 at 20:32:49
Ah, so she is! Thanks for the heads-up. I hadn't clicked on her name to check her out.
I have to admit that I've also wondered what's wrong with John McCain, with his wandering ever-changing policy statements, his temper, his foul mouth, and his seeming inability to see that he does just what he criticizes others for doing. I've about concluded he's a bit of a bully who's a bit senile, even though others swear he's quite conscious about what he does.
But to get back to Hillary... I suspect she just can't help herself, that most of her actions are not under her conscious control. That self-aggrandizement, "I've got 35 years of experience that qualify me for the presidency," is really pitiful, and embarrassingly false to just about everybody. We don't need another psychologically unhealthy president. posted 05/03/2008 at 16:11:11
I have to admit that I've also wondered what's wrong with John McCain, with his wandering ever-changing policy statements, his temper, his foul mouth, and his seeming inability to see that he does just what he criticizes others for doing. I've about concluded he's a bit of a bully who's a bit senile, even though others swear he's quite conscious about what he does.
But to get back to Hillary... I suspect she just can't help herself, that most of her actions are not under her conscious control. That self-aggrandizement, "I've got 35 years of experience that qualify me for the presidency," is really pitiful, and embarrassingly false to just about everybody. We don't need another psychologically unhealthy president. posted 05/03/2008 at 16:11:11
Ellen
Re this: "It didn't feel reckless to Hillary to repeat this lie over and over again, and she paid no heed to those who contradicted her, because in her mind, she was telling the truth. Only when confronted with undeniable evidence of external reality -- actual footage from her Bosnia trip - did she admit (possibly to herself as well as the public) that her version of events was not true."
This is EXACTLY what narcissists do -- they create a world with themselves in the central place that is not related to reality and insist that others support their version of the truth. When caught, they brush it off as inconsequential. That creation of an "internal reality" is what keeps her in the race when she's already beaten, all the time insisting that she will win and only SHE can be the president for America.
I think she has real problems. posted 05/03/2008 at 12:29:11
Re this: "It didn't feel reckless to Hillary to repeat this lie over and over again, and she paid no heed to those who contradicted her, because in her mind, she was telling the truth. Only when confronted with undeniable evidence of external reality -- actual footage from her Bosnia trip - did she admit (possibly to herself as well as the public) that her version of events was not true."
This is EXACTLY what narcissists do -- they create a world with themselves in the central place that is not related to reality and insist that others support their version of the truth. When caught, they brush it off as inconsequential. That creation of an "internal reality" is what keeps her in the race when she's already beaten, all the time insisting that she will win and only SHE can be the president for America.
I think she has real problems. posted 05/03/2008 at 12:29:11
What Will A Clinton "Victory" Feel Like?
Ha! NO, I didn't mean that double negative. How about this?
A vote for Hillary would be four more years of GW Bush in ways not yet explored by the media. posted 05/03/2008 at 07:39:29
A vote for Hillary would be four more years of GW Bush in ways not yet explored by the media. posted 05/03/2008 at 07:39:29
John Eskow
You forgot to include what Hillary would do to Iran. You omitted all of her foreign policy positions on military matters, nuclear weapons (for them), land mines/cluster bombs (for them), executive privilege (wouldn't pledge to return to the required balance of governmental powers), Constitutional matters (she wholeheartedly supported GW Bush's illegal and unConstitutional attack on Iraq), etc.
A vote for Hillary would be four more years of GW Bush in ways not yet unexplored by the media. Vet the woman on issues that really matter to Americans that the MSM has avoided like the plague! posted 05/03/2008 at 07:23:44
You forgot to include what Hillary would do to Iran. You omitted all of her foreign policy positions on military matters, nuclear weapons (for them), land mines/cluster bombs (for them), executive privilege (wouldn't pledge to return to the required balance of governmental powers), Constitutional matters (she wholeheartedly supported GW Bush's illegal and unConstitutional attack on Iraq), etc.
A vote for Hillary would be four more years of GW Bush in ways not yet unexplored by the media. Vet the woman on issues that really matter to Americans that the MSM has avoided like the plague! posted 05/03/2008 at 07:23:44
Obama Ad Hits Clinton Over Gas Tax
Thirty cents a day isn't going to bring anybody a windfall, is it? That's less than the cost of a cup of coffee.
Excellent ad. posted 05/02/2008 at 11:08:05
Excellent ad. posted 05/02/2008 at 11:08:05
Black-Issues Group: Price To Pay If Clinton Wins Through Superdelegates
She certainly won't win if millions of voters stay home because they believe the SDs have defied the will of the Democratic primary voters. That's the WHOLE point of the report above, and as someone else has said, it won't be just those voters who are concerned with Black issues, but all voters who cannot tolerate yet another spit in their faces. First there was the Supreme Court in 2000 and then voter/election fraud in 2004 that stole TWO elections. Don't believe for a minute that voters have forgotten.
The final decision must be fair to both candidates AND the voters or there will be hell to pay. posted 05/02/2008 at 10:44:38
The final decision must be fair to both candidates AND the voters or there will be hell to pay. posted 05/02/2008 at 10:44:38
Baptist Minister Asks McCain: "Did You Call Your Wife A C**t?" (VIDEO)
If it were not true with witnesses to verify it, McCain would have grounds for a defamation lawsuit that would have sent the author to the poorhouse. If it were not true, he would have HAD to file such a lawsuit to protect himself and his wife.
it's true. He has a terrible temper and a foul mouth. posted 05/02/2008 at 11:04:11
it's true. He has a terrible temper and a foul mouth. posted 05/02/2008 at 11:04:11
Did you notice that McCain didn't deny it, though?
I'm glad the guy asked it in public. It's about time. posted 05/01/2008 at 19:31:07
I'm glad the guy asked it in public. It's about time. posted 05/01/2008 at 19:31:07
Did you notice that McCain didn't deny it, though?
I'm glad the guy asked it in public. It's about time. posted 05/01/2008 at 19:29:51
I'm glad the guy asked it in public. It's about time. posted 05/01/2008 at 19:29:51
Arianna on Good Morning America Discussing Right is Wrong
suekzoo
Thanks. I know Obama's, but I don't think many people know Hillary's, and God knows what McCain's are. posted 05/01/2008 at 18:09:33
Thanks. I know Obama's, but I don't think many people know Hillary's, and God knows what McCain's are. posted 05/01/2008 at 18:09:33
Arianna
Good interview!
I did want to throw up when Charlie Gibson said that awful debate was to show Obama's electability colors. THAT's up to the voters, not the media. What's up to the media is to present the issues, and they certainly are serious, as you said, and concern Americans.
I STILL haven't seen a comparison of Obama's foreign policy principles compared to McCain's or Clinton's, yet the Iraq war hangs over our heads like a never-ending cloud, with the additional threat of an attack against Iran and belligerence toward other nations, etc. We NEED to know the candidates' positions on the use of nuclear weapons, the use of cluster bombs and land mines, unilateral attacks on sovereign countries, torture, and all things pertaining to America's unchecked imperialistic direction. We don't need a president who will continue GW Bush's illegal warmongering and violation of human rights laws to bring further shame upon us. posted 05/01/2008 at 17:20:42
Good interview!
I did want to throw up when Charlie Gibson said that awful debate was to show Obama's electability colors. THAT's up to the voters, not the media. What's up to the media is to present the issues, and they certainly are serious, as you said, and concern Americans.
I STILL haven't seen a comparison of Obama's foreign policy principles compared to McCain's or Clinton's, yet the Iraq war hangs over our heads like a never-ending cloud, with the additional threat of an attack against Iran and belligerence toward other nations, etc. We NEED to know the candidates' positions on the use of nuclear weapons, the use of cluster bombs and land mines, unilateral attacks on sovereign countries, torture, and all things pertaining to America's unchecked imperialistic direction. We don't need a president who will continue GW Bush's illegal warmongering and violation of human rights laws to bring further shame upon us. posted 05/01/2008 at 17:20:42
Labor Leader Says Clinton Has "Testicular Fortitude"
And show us those balls! posted 05/01/2008 at 16:10:57
YouTube-Generation Superdelegates: Help Lauren And Awais Choose A Presidential Candidate
Why are college kids super delegates? I don't understand this at ALL. I thought the super delegates were mature adults who have been involved in politics and know all the ins and outs of Washington and how politics work.
That said, can't they make up their own minds? posted 04/28/2008 at 20:55:19
That said, can't they make up their own minds? posted 04/28/2008 at 20:55:19
Jeremiah Wright At National Press Club: Watch Video
You obviously read the headline but didn't watch the clip. posted 04/28/2008 at 14:06:16
Jeremiah Wright is a real man who's also a Christian, and a delight to hear. He pulls no punches and doesn't let anybody get away with any shit. God, that is refreshing! posted 04/28/2008 at 13:25:36
Clinton Trumpets Blue Collar Pitch In Indiana
....every speech she gave in Indiana on Friday and Saturday had the same topic sentence. "My campaign is about jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs," she said, always to thunderous applause.
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Her job speeches are worthless. What a loser.
http://tiny.cc/7XgoN
...amid questions about her own success in helping economically troubled rural areas in her home state of New York....they forced the New York senator to explain her failure to deliver the couple of hundred thousand jobs she promised upstate New York when she first ran for the state's U.S. Senate seat in 2000.
Clinton said Tuesday that when she made such a promise, she expected former Vice President Al Gore to be elected president and to continue most of the economic policies of her husband's administration.
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She is incredibly irresponsible. She didn't campaign for him, but it was Al Gore's fault that she didn't deliver on those promised jobs?
Indianans, don't fall for her bullshit. She is a vile politician, and not all politicians are. posted 04/28/2008 at 07:18:44
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Her job speeches are worthless. What a loser.
http://tiny.cc/7XgoN
...amid questions about her own success in helping economically troubled rural areas in her home state of New York....they forced the New York senator to explain her failure to deliver the couple of hundred thousand jobs she promised upstate New York when she first ran for the state's U.S. Senate seat in 2000.
Clinton said Tuesday that when she made such a promise, she expected former Vice President Al Gore to be elected president and to continue most of the economic policies of her husband's administration.
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She is incredibly irresponsible. She didn't campaign for him, but it was Al Gore's fault that she didn't deliver on those promised jobs?
Indianans, don't fall for her bullshit. She is a vile politician, and not all politicians are. posted 04/28/2008 at 07:18:44
Clinton's Battering of Obama Is Brutal, Bloody -- But Fair
Tina
No, not everybody pulled their names off the ballot, but I'm not sure it matters now. Nobody's left in the Democratic race but Hillary and Obama:
FWIW, several Democratic candidates removed their names:
Four Democratic presidential candidates - U.S. Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, U.S. Sen. Joe Biden (D-Del.) and former U.S. Sen. John Edwards - filed affidavits with the Michigan Department of State requesting that their names be removed from Michigan"s Jan. 15 Democratic Party Primary ballot.
This means four Democratic candidates are still on the Michigan ballot: U.S. Sen. Hillary Clinton D-N.Y.), U.S. Sen. Christopher Dodd (D-Conn.), U.S. Rep. Dennis Kucinich and U.S. Sen. Mike Gravel (D-Ala.).
Per Michigan Election Law (168.615a), those not wishing to appear on Michigan"s Presidential Primary ballot had until 4:00 p.m., October 9, 2007 to withdraw by filing a sworn statement expressing their desire to have their name removed from the ballot. The communication had to include the signature of the presidential candidate. All presidential candidates were informed of the legal provisions relating to Michigan"s Presidential Primary by registered mail.
http://www.michigan.gov/sos/0,1607,7-127"177580",00.html posted 04/27/2008 at 18:55:03
No, not everybody pulled their names off the ballot, but I'm not sure it matters now. Nobody's left in the Democratic race but Hillary and Obama:
FWIW, several Democratic candidates removed their names:
Four Democratic presidential candidates - U.S. Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, U.S. Sen. Joe Biden (D-Del.) and former U.S. Sen. John Edwards - filed affidavits with the Michigan Department of State requesting that their names be removed from Michigan"s Jan. 15 Democratic Party Primary ballot.
This means four Democratic candidates are still on the Michigan ballot: U.S. Sen. Hillary Clinton D-N.Y.), U.S. Sen. Christopher Dodd (D-Conn.), U.S. Rep. Dennis Kucinich and U.S. Sen. Mike Gravel (D-Ala.).
Per Michigan Election Law (168.615a), those not wishing to appear on Michigan"s Presidential Primary ballot had until 4:00 p.m., October 9, 2007 to withdraw by filing a sworn statement expressing their desire to have their name removed from the ballot. The communication had to include the signature of the presidential candidate. All presidential candidates were informed of the legal provisions relating to Michigan"s Presidential Primary by registered mail.
http://www.michigan.gov/sos/0,1607,7-127"177580",00.html posted 04/27/2008 at 18:55:03
desmirl
I think the entire election depends on the answer to your hypothetical poll question. If it were seen that Clinton won the nomination through the superdelegates unfairly, with Obama ahead on all metrics, I think the Democratic party would lose millions of votes for the unfairly-chosen nominee, the Independents who are in large numbers in the Obama camp, most African Americans, the young who were recruited as first-time voters and support Obama.
If she were to win the nomination fairly, with higher counts in all metrics and the super delegates supporting the voters, I believe that many Obama supporters would vote for her.
I would not, myself, for I'm extremely opposed to her foreign policy principles and believe they're indistinguishable from Bush's, but I know many are more concerned about domestic issues and think either candidate would do well as president.
So, I suspect the outcome of the GE rests squarely on whether the Democratic nomination process is fair or not. posted 04/27/2008 at 18:13:35
I think the entire election depends on the answer to your hypothetical poll question. If it were seen that Clinton won the nomination through the superdelegates unfairly, with Obama ahead on all metrics, I think the Democratic party would lose millions of votes for the unfairly-chosen nominee, the Independents who are in large numbers in the Obama camp, most African Americans, the young who were recruited as first-time voters and support Obama.
If she were to win the nomination fairly, with higher counts in all metrics and the super delegates supporting the voters, I believe that many Obama supporters would vote for her.
I would not, myself, for I'm extremely opposed to her foreign policy principles and believe they're indistinguishable from Bush's, but I know many are more concerned about domestic issues and think either candidate would do well as president.
So, I suspect the outcome of the GE rests squarely on whether the Democratic nomination process is fair or not. posted 04/27/2008 at 18:13:35
Clinton Challenges Obama To Debate Without A Moderator, Lincoln-Douglas Style
peaceplumber
She also voted against a ban on landmines.
Her foreign policy principles run neck and neck with GW Bush's. posted 04/26/2008 at 18:14:40
She also voted against a ban on landmines.
Her foreign policy principles run neck and neck with GW Bush's. posted 04/26/2008 at 18:14:40
Like they agreed on the rules for Michigan and Florida? You know, of course, the one who'd ignore the rules they set. I think Obama's smart to refuse the bait.
I do agree that the pundits have conducted what must be some of the worst political "debates" in American history, most of them aimed at 3rd graders. posted 04/26/2008 at 18:13:46
I do agree that the pundits have conducted what must be some of the worst political "debates" in American history, most of them aimed at 3rd graders. posted 04/26/2008 at 18:13:46
Can Hillary Really Win?
Here's this link again.
Hillary Clinton's Illiberal Belligerence:
http://www.antiwar.com/zunes/?articleid=12051 posted 04/27/2008 at 07:47:35
Hillary Clinton's Illiberal Belligerence:
http://www.antiwar.com/zunes/?articleid=12051 posted 04/27/2008 at 07:47:35
scottarino
Well, no, Hillary's and Obama's politics are not the same at ALL. Maybe you should check the records. Their foreign policy differences are huge, and Hillary's are very dangerous for America:
Hillary Clinton's Illiberal Belligerence: http://www.antiwar.com/zunes/?articleid=12051
Hillary Clinton's Military policy: http://www.fpif.org/fpiftxt/4811
Hillary Clinton on International Law: http://www.fpif.org/fpiftxt/4803
Hillary Clinton Lies about Iraq: http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/02/02/6802/
Why Hillary Clinton's Iraq Vote Matters: http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/02/23/7245/
HRC's foreign policy beliefs and actions are merely an extension and continuation of GW Bush's warmongering, which she emphatically supported with speeches and her votes, from the AUMF, to the Kyle-Lieberman amendment, and a vote against a ban on cluster bombs. Obama supported NONE of these warmongering bills.
So, there is a huge difference between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. posted 04/27/2008 at 07:45:46
Well, no, Hillary's and Obama's politics are not the same at ALL. Maybe you should check the records. Their foreign policy differences are huge, and Hillary's are very dangerous for America:
Hillary Clinton's Illiberal Belligerence: http://www.antiwar.com/zunes/?articleid=12051
Hillary Clinton's Military policy: http://www.fpif.org/fpiftxt/4811
Hillary Clinton on International Law: http://www.fpif.org/fpiftxt/4803
Hillary Clinton Lies about Iraq: http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/02/02/6802/
Why Hillary Clinton's Iraq Vote Matters: http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/02/23/7245/
HRC's foreign policy beliefs and actions are merely an extension and continuation of GW Bush's warmongering, which she emphatically supported with speeches and her votes, from the AUMF, to the Kyle-Lieberman amendment, and a vote against a ban on cluster bombs. Obama supported NONE of these warmongering bills.
So, there is a huge difference between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. posted 04/27/2008 at 07:45:46
Hillary Is Not A Monster
Your definition of "monster" limits it to the fairy-tale creature that attacks individuals, or maybe serial murderers or rapists. But there's a special category of "monstrous" people who never laid hands on a single individual they had terrorized, tortured or killed -- they just ordered others to do it for them. Besides the historical characters we all know about (Hitler et al) I think GW Bush and Dick Cheney fall into that category.
I think Hillary Clinton stands on the edge of the cliff and the only reason she isn't in the company of these monsters is because she hasn't had the political power yet to carry out what she believes. But we've had warning. She voted for the AUMF, the Kyle-Lieberman amendment, she voted against a ban on cluster bombs, has threatened to "obliterate" Iran. She certainly has made her monstrous intentions clear.
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....there"s every indication that, as president, her foreign policy agenda would closely parallel that of the Bush administration.
Given Senator Clinton"s militaristic foreign policy, why are so many of her supporters apparently in denial of this unfortunate reality?
...what"s the advantage of a female president if her foreign policies are still centered on patriarchal notions of militarism and conquest? What would it mean to the women of Iraq, Iran, Palestine, Lebanon and other countries who would suffer as a result of her policies?
http://www.fpif.org/fpiftxt/4811 posted 04/28/2008 at 08:48:02
I think Hillary Clinton stands on the edge of the cliff and the only reason she isn't in the company of these monsters is because she hasn't had the political power yet to carry out what she believes. But we've had warning. She voted for the AUMF, the Kyle-Lieberman amendment, she voted against a ban on cluster bombs, has threatened to "obliterate" Iran. She certainly has made her monstrous intentions clear.
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....there"s every indication that, as president, her foreign policy agenda would closely parallel that of the Bush administration.
Given Senator Clinton"s militaristic foreign policy, why are so many of her supporters apparently in denial of this unfortunate reality?
...what"s the advantage of a female president if her foreign policies are still centered on patriarchal notions of militarism and conquest? What would it mean to the women of Iraq, Iran, Palestine, Lebanon and other countries who would suffer as a result of her policies?
http://www.fpif.org/fpiftxt/4811 posted 04/28/2008 at 08:48:02
Bill Clinton Seizes Bigger Role In Hillary's Campaign
I agree. I think McCain won't know what hit him, even if Obama doesn't mercilessly attack him. McCain has floundered throughout his campaign, never has been challenged as a presidential candidate, and on the issues alone I could even beat him.
I'm not sure if Obama went easy on Hillary because she's the same party or because she's a woman, but in either case, he did the right thing, and it's served him well. posted 04/26/2008 at 17:59:19
I'm not sure if Obama went easy on Hillary because she's the same party or because she's a woman, but in either case, he did the right thing, and it's served him well. posted 04/26/2008 at 17:59:19
Hopeful
I agree that Bill appears to be classless and non-presidential. But I thought Hillary's stunt with the whiskey and beer was classless and non-presidential, too. They seem to be aiming for the lowest common denominator in human beings with no dignity, no class, no polish, no large compassionate world-view, no integrity. There ARE such people in the world, and I think Obama is in his fledgling stage -- even there he's far beyond the Clinton's understanding.
Neither one of the Clintons realizes that America wants a president we can be damned proud of, male or female, not who's perfect, but someone we see is aiming for the best s/he can be and reflecting that integrity and hope back to us as our own.
That's a revolution I'd like to see. posted 04/26/2008 at 17:49:35
I agree that Bill appears to be classless and non-presidential. But I thought Hillary's stunt with the whiskey and beer was classless and non-presidential, too. They seem to be aiming for the lowest common denominator in human beings with no dignity, no class, no polish, no large compassionate world-view, no integrity. There ARE such people in the world, and I think Obama is in his fledgling stage -- even there he's far beyond the Clinton's understanding.
Neither one of the Clintons realizes that America wants a president we can be damned proud of, male or female, not who's perfect, but someone we see is aiming for the best s/he can be and reflecting that integrity and hope back to us as our own.
That's a revolution I'd like to see. posted 04/26/2008 at 17:49:35
Hillary knows she won't win the nomination.
Bill will help her and McCain try to destroy Obama to ensure McCain's election so she can run for the presidency in the next election, with McCain either dead, totally senile, or threatening WW III. posted 04/26/2008 at 15:49:30
Bill will help her and McCain try to destroy Obama to ensure McCain's election so she can run for the presidency in the next election, with McCain either dead, totally senile, or threatening WW III. posted 04/26/2008 at 15:49:30
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Why would the delegates who vote for Obama vote for Hillary Clinton rather than HIS choice for VP? He has a "plan" for the kind of government he wants to have when in office, and it certainly doesn't include having Hillary Clinton foisted on him as his unwanted VP. His entire platform has been to change politics from old style Washington corruption and nastiness to something people can rationally make decisions about. She never "got it" or she wouldn't have conducted a kneecapping ugly campaign against him but would have instead campaigned on whatever issues she thought were important.
Kathy Nichols, I don't think you'll win any points by pressuring the superdelegates to vote for Clinton. Many have already indicated they don't appreciate the Hillary-pushers. posted 05/16/2008 at 09:48:27