democraticjack

You really didn't make a point. It was just a snarky dig, just like my post. posted 04/21/2008 at 19:53:31

So it's okay to set bombs and still be unrepentant 30 years later, huh? Obama continued to serve on the board with Ayers AFTER he made his infamous 9/11 remarks and kicked off his senate bid at Ayer's home. posted 04/21/2008 at 19:49:47

Well, at least that trailer trash woman has the strength of character not to snort c*caine while she was in college. I guess that would have made her more dignified, huh? posted 04/21/2008 at 19:41:17

You mean all the gullible liberals who want to back the pushbutton "cool" guy and not the policy wonk? posted 04/21/2008 at 19:37:17

Yeah, and Barack's wife called him an "accessory" and McCain called his wife a c*nt. Is there a real point in your post? posted 04/21/2008 at 19:30:08

This ad is playing off of his performance in the debate last week, when he was confronted with a hostile environment, he clearly was not ready. Bill Ayers? "He is an English professor"! Oh, well, that makes it okay then. posted 04/21/2008 at 19:27:35

Michelle Obama was lead surrogate in playing the race card before South Carolina. She was the one who conflated Bill's "fairytale" remarks into racism. That is a fact. She also said after they won Iowa "There ain't no blacks in Iowa", which was before NH and SC. Why? It's called race baiting and the Obama campaign are masterful at it. Mr. Change had no problem destroying opponents in Illinois under the tutelage of Mr. Axelrod, later saying he "regretted" it, his typical passive-aggressive answer to everything. posted 04/21/2008 at 19:24:34

Karl Rove is choosing the nominee. He loaned his brain to a guy named Axelrod, who launched the sneakiest, most destructive passive-aggressive campaign since Lee Atwater. You are already on your knees for Obama and you don't even know it. posted 04/21/2008 at 19:17:06

Put down the glue jar or type more slowly. posted 04/21/2008 at 19:11:59

But, but you don't understand, this is a popularity contest. He's the cute one. posted 04/21/2008 at 19:10:45

They just might feel the same way about you. Oh, yesyoucan. Besides, aren't you the ones you were looking for? Smart people bamboozled by platitudes and contributing to the swiftboating of the Clintons are indeed strange critters. posted 04/21/2008 at 19:08:53

The premise of this article is bogus. Give me an example where a main surrogate of the Clinton campaign has attacked Obama's patriotism? I don't mean Obama "interpretation" either. I could say this constant Huffingtonian use of the word Rove is an attack on Hillary's patriotism using the same tortured logic contained in this article. You people will say anything, won't you. posted 04/21/2008 at 11:21:01

Relative to your point #2, Obama disowned those remarks at the debate the other day, so I guess you just got thrown under the bus. Again, regarding free speech, I guess Hillary doesn't have that right. You people defend Schuster, Randi Rhodes, Rev. Wright and now, I swallow hard, William Ayers.
Obama supporters getting hubris now is not a thing of beauty. posted 04/20/2008 at 14:43:36

And that was relevant to my post, how? posted 04/20/2008 at 14:31:24

What's a Maher? posted 04/20/2008 at 14:29:52

You are being serious? OK, let's caucus for the Presidency. Let's give money to the Red Cross and vote on who they should help. Hell yeah, let's practice exclusionary politics. You people have seriously lost perspective. posted 04/20/2008 at 14:24:45

Actually, I think it is a stretch to think MoveOn "allowed" anything to do with it. The Taliban are regenerating and the poppy crops are in full bloom in Afghanistan. If they want credit for that, well....... posted 04/20/2008 at 14:21:12

Sometimes you just need to read the article which generates the headlines. I know it's tough, but, really....... posted 04/20/2008 at 14:17:23

You are so right. That WAS condescending and arrogant as well. You learn well from your Master. posted 04/20/2008 at 14:05:13

Nice link to the unbiased, wait for it .....................Huffington Post. posted 04/20/2008 at 14:04:02

MoveOn was supposed to be a "progressive" action group, not a "Obama" PAC. They never should have pitted one Democrat against another; that was never their charter. They didn't do it in 2000 or 2004 . You are pointing your bow and arrows at the wrong target. MoveOn is wasting money which should be spent on defeating Republican candidates, both locally and nationally.
Instead they chose to form a circular firing squad. I resigned from them the minute I received the email asking me to vote. posted 04/20/2008 at 13:53:05

Some insight into this "scandal".
From www.taylormarsh.com

1) Did you attend the fundraiser that you wrote about?

No. If I had, I would have reported it that way. This is a news story and it was treated as such. When you find evidence of a candidate who says something of relevance in private that is significantly different from their public face, that"s news. Because of the fact that I"m a very public Obama supporter, I worked to removed all spin possible from the story.
2) Did you make that recording? If not, who did?

Someone who attended the event made the recording.

3) Was the audio edited? If so, why?
The source was very concerned that nothing on the recording should reveal the exact location of fundraiser or should in anyway give away who he/she was. I listened to the material contained between the two recordings

Two recordings? What was left out? Obama supporters have been screaming about context.

Further:)
Fremon spoke to Wolfson after the Texas caucuses. She did not disclose where or when this tape had been made. Fremon then asks Wolfson if he had "evidence they had of intimidation at the caucuses" and he responds with Texas and Nevada. Fremon then goes on to write that Nevada happened before the Move-On.org endorsement, and Texas occurred after Clinton made her remarks, thus making Wolfson look like a liar and an idiot.

No investigation by HuffPo who just ran with it. posted 04/20/2008 at 13:43:06

Trust me, it won't be pleasant for anyone. Especially when you and the rest of his posse turn on him as the truth slowly dawns.... posted 04/20/2008 at 22:02:14

You guys may not like it, but out here in the hinterlands, many people actually swallowed that BS about Obama's patriotism, particularly after Rev. Wright and Michelle's remarks. I still have people insist he is a Muslim whenever we talk politics. Better that kind of stuff is cleared up now rather than in the GE. ABC actually did your guy a favor and your cringing because someone dare to question him hard says more about your support then Obama's credentials. The sort of ravenous frenzy and dismay I see here is bordering on unhealthy. posted 04/20/2008 at 21:45:41

Is that why Hannity has a website dedicated to stopping Hillary? posted 04/20/2008 at 21:34:23

You do Mr. Moyers a disservice. He has been a preeminent journalist for decades. He didn't just "become" one. posted 04/20/2008 at 21:33:28

Because it is a red herring. Obama has attended those prayer breakfasts as well. posted 04/20/2008 at 21:29:11

The Bosnia question was fair game, I thought. Maybe she should have taken 3-5 minutes to answer like Obama did because he was so shocked that anyone would dare question him. The man didn't like his protective shield being pierced. posted 04/20/2008 at 20:58:05

Weren't you the same people castigating Hillary because Schuster called her daughter a whore. Weren't you the same people defending Randi Rhodes? Weren't you the same people defending Reverend Wright's "God Damn America"? Now you are going after George Stephanopoulos and defending William Ayers. I just don't get it. posted 04/20/2008 at 13:10:49

You are my pick of the week post. Well said. posted 04/20/2008 at 13:07:23

Good one, although I am not so sure your point was weakened by the fact the MSM is in the tank for McCain and Obama. posted 04/20/2008 at 12:58:37

He is waiting until PA is done and then an endorsement would give her impetus going into NC. posted 04/19/2008 at 22:34:03

Get your passport ready. posted 04/19/2008 at 22:16:12

Brain fart. Thanks. Not MT either. It was actually PR. Oh, well. posted 04/19/2008 at 22:14:54

I guess if someone on Obama's site said that about Hillary, it must be gospel.
If you watched CNN they had a live segment from that gym. If it was closed off then they must play arena football in there. posted 04/19/2008 at 22:02:32

Yeah, he predicted Obama would win Ohio by 10 as well. Ed Schultz is in the tank for Obama anyway. posted 04/19/2008 at 21:59:33

Dick Morris. Yuck. He's just a right-wing tool. A very, very, very repulsive tool. Ugh. posted 04/19/2008 at 21:48:52

Yeah, they are called Republicans. She won't need it after November anyway. posted 04/19/2008 at 21:46:30

Not to mention KY and MS by 30 and WVA by 20. posted 04/19/2008 at 21:44:20

Seriously. You? Me? LOL. posted 04/19/2008 at 21:42:47

Yeah, well, you have never posted anything positive about the Clintons since you began posting here, so why is this not a surprise? Kind of makes it hard to believe you were ever a Clinton supporter. posted 04/19/2008 at 21:42:10

Oh. Youtube. OK. posted 04/19/2008 at 21:31:05

Robert Reich and Sam Nunn are not superdelegates. Sorry. posted 04/19/2008 at 21:23:25

I said it before and I'll say it again. Hark, the freaking herald angels sing. posted 04/19/2008 at 21:15:22

Sure you were. posted 04/19/2008 at 21:12:58

That didn't make much sense kay. Not like you to babble like that. Are you okay? posted 04/19/2008 at 21:07:30

She's already dealt with it. Actually, it might help her if you really think about it. posted 04/19/2008 at 21:05:57

What are the long term effects of cocaine on the brain anyway? I mean, look at the Chimp. posted 04/19/2008 at 20:41:01

Beware Greeks bearing gifts and sentences beginning I hate to mention this.
You just made a major sexist statement there and you are doing our gender a disservice. posted 04/19/2008 at 20:40:04

What? Did you cut in line in front of you? posted 04/19/2008 at 20:33:47

Hillary has caught up and passed him in the latest Gallup after being down by 11 one week ago. posted 04/19/2008 at 20:32:08

Nobody really cares. posted 04/19/2008 at 20:28:35

If he's cute enough, but I don't know who he is. posted 04/19/2008 at 01:43:22

If they either defend Hillary or criticize Obama usually. posted 04/19/2008 at 01:38:29

More proof of my points, thank you very much. posted 04/19/2008 at 01:35:16

I think you are abusive. Or are you as arrogant as your candidate and think only your words are the gold standard? Let's go burn some books next! posted 04/19/2008 at 01:31:57

JFK absolutely did not have this slavish adoration witness here tonight. The Beatles did, but not JFK. It is really truly creepy. posted 04/19/2008 at 01:27:30

Need I say more? posted 04/19/2008 at 01:23:50

Yet they really don't get why we think they are brainwashed. That post goes a long way toward explaining it as do several of the other reverential posts here tonight. Too bad he is unelectable. posted 04/19/2008 at 01:23:03

How come he says she can win? posted 04/19/2008 at 01:20:08

Ayers was not tried due to prosecutorial misconduct. He admitted setting bombs and on 9/11 said he wished they had set more. Three people were killed due to the Weatherman Underground - unfortunately for them, they were Weathermen.
Anyway, Obama was probably snorting the school paste. Just sayin'. posted 04/19/2008 at 01:18:21

Obama's healthcare plan carries penalties if you use emergency services without insurance and also mandates health care for families with children, but only for the children. posted 04/19/2008 at 01:04:35

Who is Jack Bauer? posted 04/19/2008 at 01:00:51

Boo Hoo! He's putting bad words in my head. Stop him. Censor him. and then we can go burn some of Hillary's books. posted 04/19/2008 at 00:57:05

Then you don't actually mean "wholeheartedly" do you? More like "sort of" support. posted 04/19/2008 at 00:52:45

Thanks you guys. You are all so Charmin' posted 04/19/2008 at 00:49:31

Yeah, you zombie cult members scare me real bad. It's like watching a movie called "The Obama Ring". LOL. Please. You guys really have a big chip on your shoulders, don't you? posted 04/19/2008 at 00:48:01

I offended you feel that being an AA trumps me being offended by the race card played by so many Obama supporters. This is the passive-aggressive style of campaigning which is the signature of the Obama campaign. posted 04/19/2008 at 00:42:13

The local precinct captains said there will be street money going to workers for Obama because it is tradition. Obama is giving it the old wink, wink. CNN did a report on it. posted 04/19/2008 at 00:37:50

Yes, we can. How about Hillary being up by 36 in KY?
SUSA has her up by 14 in PA. I only go by SUSA polling except when Gallup helps make my point. Just like you guys. posted 04/19/2008 at 00:35:02

Wow, he drew more than he did when Oprah came out for him in California! Oh, you say he lost California by double digits? Nevermind. posted 04/19/2008 at 00:26:00

Yeah, I remember in the waning days of the 1988 election. Dukakis was drawing the largest crowds of his campaign and they were much larger than GHW Bush was drawing. Oh, bad example. posted 04/19/2008 at 00:21:59

Yeah, I get that same feeling at a Redskins game. You know it is very difficult to read your post when it is in all caps. posted 04/19/2008 at 00:20:04

I thought I was a jerk. posted 04/19/2008 at 00:18:16

Reached my limit last month, dahling. However we do have five bus loads of volunteers driving up to PA right as we speak. I'll be on the phone banks tomorrow. Oh, did you notice Obama has dropped 8 points in the Gallup poll in just one week? posted 04/19/2008 at 00:14:54

And you are a Republican troll. posted 04/19/2008 at 00:12:36

What? posted 04/19/2008 at 00:10:06

You mean like at the Obama rally the other day when they had people of color move so there could be more white faces behind him? posted 04/19/2008 at 00:08:48

That "street money" paid off, didn't it? posted 04/19/2008 at 00:02:47

George Stephanopoulos. posted 04/19/2008 at 00:01:51

I just had a bowel movement. posted 04/19/2008 at 00:01:04

Hillary picked up 3 SD's today. posted 04/18/2008 at 23:59:40

Your last paragraph there scares the poop out of me. Did you actually mean that? posted 04/18/2008 at 23:57:39

Oh, I just have these thrills going up my legs. Miracle? Chills? I LOVE Barack Obama? posted 04/18/2008 at 23:53:24

Oh, please. You people really need to get a grip. What a bunch of drama queens. posted 04/18/2008 at 19:54:00

You people are really getting pretty excited over Hillary dissing a bunch of Obama surrogates. Duh, that's really news. posted 04/18/2008 at 19:46:16

MoveOn was supposed to be an unbiased Democratic activist organisation. When they decided to endorse, for the first time, one Democrat over another, they split the party, right then, right there, becoming an Obama activist group. They should have been going after the Republicans yet wasted time and money attacking Clinton, a Democrat. Why on earth should she appreciate that? posted 04/18/2008 at 19:41:48

They were never in the business of endorsing candidates, pitting one Democrat against another. That wasn't unifying the Party; it was divisive. posted 04/18/2008 at 19:32:27

Obviously comprehension was not one of the skills you brought to your activist groups. Hillary was talking about an activist group which endorsed another candidate and then tried to manipulate the caucus process. MoveOn is the one who tried to deny participation in the democratic process, not Hillary. For people who don't want to count FL and MI, you people sure do speak with a forked tongue. posted 04/18/2008 at 19:29:23

What business did MoveOn have endorsing a candidate? That was out of bounds to begin with. Why would a Democratic activist group decide to pit one Democrat against another. What purpose did it serve other than to divide the party. Anyway, Obama still stunk up the joint at the debate. posted 04/18/2008 at 19:24:39

Makes a good headline and we know that's how the majority of Obamabots get their news. posted 04/18/2008 at 19:18:18

MoveOn is an OBAMA support group, not a Democratic activist group anymore. When they sent me the email asking who I wanted them to endorse, I immediately quit them because that was not supposed to be their purpose. They were supposed to support Democratic candidates, not one over the other. This is another transparent attempt by Arianna to cover for Obama by throwing the litter on Hillary. posted 04/18/2008 at 19:16:39

MoveOn endorsed Obama. You can't call them a Democratic party activist group, they are an Obama activist group. Why shouldn't she be upset with them. They betrayed their own charter when they endorsed one candidate over another. posted 04/18/2008 at 19:12:10

Do any of Obama's "bitter, clinging" remarks ring with the echo of Mr. Ayer's sentiments wherein they understand more than anyone else why people are downtrodden and only they know what is better for them as well? It's paternalism and arrogance personified. posted 04/19/2008 at 16:56:25

Wow Gina. I don't know about the Democratic Party you speak of. The one I belive in just wants to let us live their lives by the Constitution. You are still one of my favorite posters, even if your blind loyalty to your party is as alien to me as Obama supporters blind adoration to their candidate is. posted 04/19/2008 at 16:46:15

Gina, it's pretty hard to get around the fact that Bush and Rice ignored the 8/10/01 National Security brief. As Richard Clark said whenever something like that came up under Clinton people ran around like their hair was on fire. The Bushes needed 9/11 to carry out their PNAC project, so they turned a blind eye to threats. If they had not gone around talking about the need for a new Pearl Harbor, I might buy into your argument. posted 04/19/2008 at 16:31:18

Actually this is the TRUTH versus OBAMA. posted 04/19/2008 at 16:21:21

My point, my young friend, was concerning the thus far undisclosed associations which I am positive that the warrantless wire-tapping Bushco backed McCain has access. Rezko ain't done yet, by the way. He is still on trial. posted 04/19/2008 at 16:19:01

The questions you posed have been asked and answered. As Obama's camp has been trashing Clinton's character at every opportunity, it was high time we learned something of Mr. Obama's character. Now his supporters are howling like a pack of jackals. It would be funny, if it weren't so hypocritical. posted 04/19/2008 at 16:07:04

"What questionaire? I don't know nuthin about no stinkin questionaire." posted 04/19/2008 at 16:02:23