May 18, 2008
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jjc4good
I'm a 29 year-old white male living in Michigan and am a Barack Obama supporter.
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The ABC Debate: A Shameful Night for the U.S. Media
Clinton emphatically says Obama can win White House
Call to let them know your thoughts on the quality of the "debate" questions:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5536119 posted 04/16/2008 at 23:18:50
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5536119 posted 04/16/2008 at 23:18:50
I'm not sure if those numbers are correct. Here's one I found for the ABC company and I called it and a live person answered (after like 25 rings) and I asked to leave a comment on the debate and he tried to transfer me but said that number was busy and to try in the morning:
818-560-1000
Got it here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5536119 posted 04/16/2008 at 23:18:02
818-560-1000
Got it here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5536119 posted 04/16/2008 at 23:18:02
Yea, we should flood their phones and also:
Make sure to fill out this comment form telling ABC what you thought of their awful "debate" questions:
http://abcnews.go.com/Site/page?id=3271346&cat=ABC%20News%20Specials posted 04/16/2008 at 23:11:08
Make sure to fill out this comment form telling ABC what you thought of their awful "debate" questions:
http://abcnews.go.com/Site/page?id=3271346&cat=ABC%20News%20Specials posted 04/16/2008 at 23:11:08
Make sure to fill out this comment form telling ABC what you thought of their awful "debate" questions:
http://abcnews.go.com/Site/page?id=3271346&cat=ABC%20News%20Specials posted 04/16/2008 at 23:10:44
http://abcnews.go.com/Site/page?id=3271346&cat=ABC%20News%20Specials posted 04/16/2008 at 23:10:44
Make sure to fill out this comment form telling ABC what you thought of their awful "debate" questions:
http://abcnews.go.com/Site/page?id=3271346&cat=ABC%20News%20Specials posted 04/16/2008 at 23:09:18
http://abcnews.go.com/Site/page?id=3271346&cat=ABC%20News%20Specials posted 04/16/2008 at 23:09:18
No, he made it pretty clear that he believes that patriotism is in one's actions and not in symbols one wears on your lapel. The latter is called idolatry. I don't think anyone should desecrate the flag by making it into something we hide behind.
Bush and Cheney always wear their little pins. Does this mean their values of aggression, torture, social Darwinism, loss of civil liberties, etc., is patriotic?
I know it's hard for a lot of flag-waving "USA, USA, USA," chanting nationalists to understand, but living up to and defending the ideals of this country is more important than wrapping yourself in its symbols. posted 04/16/2008 at 22:59:41
Bush and Cheney always wear their little pins. Does this mean their values of aggression, torture, social Darwinism, loss of civil liberties, etc., is patriotic?
I know it's hard for a lot of flag-waving "USA, USA, USA," chanting nationalists to understand, but living up to and defending the ideals of this country is more important than wrapping yourself in its symbols. posted 04/16/2008 at 22:59:41
Phreso, I know that you assume this because most presidents we've had have had a bunch of speech writers that do most of the work (certainly our current fearful leader couldn't put together a single sentence), but the truth of the matter is that Obama DOES write his own speeches for the most part (NY Time article, google it).
The Harvard Law review editor is not a ABC news "journalist" position. One actually has to be intelligent and articulate to get it. So, it's OK if you hate him for other reasons, but the speeches being someone else's work are not a legitimate one. Sorry to rain on your parade. posted 04/16/2008 at 22:52:50
The Harvard Law review editor is not a ABC news "journalist" position. One actually has to be intelligent and articulate to get it. So, it's OK if you hate him for other reasons, but the speeches being someone else's work are not a legitimate one. Sorry to rain on your parade. posted 04/16/2008 at 22:52:50
Right on! Also, FYI people, he writes most of his speeches himself. For instance, the big one on race was all him (NY Times is my source, By the way). posted 04/16/2008 at 22:49:08
This was the most biased "debate" of all of the 25 or however many we've had so far. It's clear who this debate was designed to help. I know the media are making money hand over fist by prolonging Hillary's slow and inevitable loss, but to call this crap a "debate" is an insult to the intelligence of Americans.
Q: Do you believe in the American flag?
A: Yup, I've seen it. There's like fifty of them on this stage, in fact. It proves that this stage is patriotic. posted 04/16/2008 at 21:55:06
Q: Do you believe in the American flag?
A: Yup, I've seen it. There's like fifty of them on this stage, in fact. It proves that this stage is patriotic. posted 04/16/2008 at 21:55:06
Hillary Clinton On Southern Working Class Whites In 1995: "Screw 'Em"
Yea, I would add that ABC ran a debate targeted at the people at the intellectual level of well... the ABC''s...
Not too clever, but hey, it fits.
I'd say that ABC lost me as a viewer, but I never was a viewer so I can't say it. Hopefully, ABC sucks enough that most people were watching something else.
Let's talk about the flag and in the constitution center and then run a debate that's 80% about bullsh*t that doesn't affect any Americans' life. The biggest hack in the world. No wonder Americans mostly vote on superficial differences. posted 04/16/2008 at 22:13:26
Not too clever, but hey, it fits.
I'd say that ABC lost me as a viewer, but I never was a viewer so I can't say it. Hopefully, ABC sucks enough that most people were watching something else.
Let's talk about the flag and in the constitution center and then run a debate that's 80% about bullsh*t that doesn't affect any Americans' life. The biggest hack in the world. No wonder Americans mostly vote on superficial differences. posted 04/16/2008 at 22:13:26
Why isn't the mainstream media covering this outrageous statement? They nail Obama for 5 days for saying something clearly correct and inoffensive to most people who heard the whole quote and understand what he was trying to say, and now they aren't giving this story any water? posted 04/16/2008 at 21:57:25
Wright: Uhh... take a history and Chritianity lesson and you'll understand why most of what he said in those couple thirty second clips is right on. Also, watch the entire sermon on youtube to see the context. Even Clinton's former pastor defends him (as do many others with any sense.) Regardless, aside from the fact that he and Obama are two different people, there's no hint of racism in anything Obama's done or said (plus, he's half white!!). If you put your hate aside for a minute and listen to his speech on the matter, maybe you'll begin to see why people respect him and admire him, and, yes, vote for him.
Rezko: Organized a couple fundraisers for Obama and helped Obama save a few bucks on his house (although the people that sold it to him emphatically state that they didn't lower the price due to that side lot purchase) So? Yea, the guy turned out to be dirty, but it's one guy out of thousands that organized fund raisers for Obama. How many dirty people had connections to the Clintons? Oh my God, the list must be a mile long.
Maybe there's a reason people are voting for him in spite of these "scandals." In any case, people in glass houses shouldn't cast stones, and Hillary... man is she made of glass.
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A bitter white Christian midwesterner supporting honesty. posted 04/16/2008 at 19:28:48
Rezko: Organized a couple fundraisers for Obama and helped Obama save a few bucks on his house (although the people that sold it to him emphatically state that they didn't lower the price due to that side lot purchase) So? Yea, the guy turned out to be dirty, but it's one guy out of thousands that organized fund raisers for Obama. How many dirty people had connections to the Clintons? Oh my God, the list must be a mile long.
Maybe there's a reason people are voting for him in spite of these "scandals." In any case, people in glass houses shouldn't cast stones, and Hillary... man is she made of glass.
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A bitter white Christian midwesterner supporting honesty. posted 04/16/2008 at 19:28:48
Uhmm... "they trash her?" How? By writing a story in which two (update: make that 3) people quote her as saying "screw the working class folk?" Sorry, but this is in a league of its own compared to what Obama said (which, by the way was true and NOT an insult of the people he was talking about... take a sociology class or a group psychology class and you'll understand).
Geez... I know you like the lady, but how many lies and about-faces will it take people to see her as willing to do or say anything to get to power? I used to like her too, even sent her money for her senate race. But, then she suddenly started running against a real challenger, the ruthlessness and lack of principle she's shown has made me realize that maybe some of the right wingers weren't completely wrong about her. I mean, I know she thinks she's the best for the country, but anyone who plays in such a way that they believe the end always justifies the means does not deserve the end they seek (cf. Bush and torture as an avenue for feeling safe). posted 04/16/2008 at 19:04:02
Geez... I know you like the lady, but how many lies and about-faces will it take people to see her as willing to do or say anything to get to power? I used to like her too, even sent her money for her senate race. But, then she suddenly started running against a real challenger, the ruthlessness and lack of principle she's shown has made me realize that maybe some of the right wingers weren't completely wrong about her. I mean, I know she thinks she's the best for the country, but anyone who plays in such a way that they believe the end always justifies the means does not deserve the end they seek (cf. Bush and torture as an avenue for feeling safe). posted 04/16/2008 at 19:04:02
Hillary Clinton Cannot Be Stopped!
While I agree that the video is childish and really just poking fun, so it belongs more on 236.com then on HP, I don't think that any time that a woman is criticized (rightfully) and act of sexism has occurred. posted 04/16/2008 at 13:42:13
That's Awesome! Doublespeak at its finest.
She really believes that the end justifies the means. In this case the former being her as the leader of the capitalist world and the latter being... well... whatever it takes. posted 04/16/2008 at 13:39:07
She really believes that the end justifies the means. In this case the former being her as the leader of the capitalist world and the latter being... well... whatever it takes. posted 04/16/2008 at 13:39:07
Do you mean juvenile latte-sipping, organic food eating, safe car driving, war hating, poor helping, hopemongering, nuance comprehending, honesty-demanding, rhetoric elevating, transparency wanting, common ground building, principled, and, yes, creative, elite-ists?
That's nothing, flashback to 1984: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h3G-lMZxjo posted 04/16/2008 at 13:33:03
That's nothing, flashback to 1984: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h3G-lMZxjo posted 04/16/2008 at 13:33:03
Pennsylvania Debate Live Updates: ABC Hosts April 16 Democratic Debate
90% of the attacks are against Obama and 95% of the questions so far have been completely irrelevant to things people give a crap about. The first 45 minutes covered no issues that will affect a single person.
Jesus. I'm glad I normally don't watch TV. This country is in a poor... poor state. posted 04/16/2008 at 21:29:48
Jesus. I'm glad I normally don't watch TV. This country is in a poor... poor state. posted 04/16/2008 at 21:29:48
The Boss Picks A Boss: Bruce Springsteen Endorses Obama
We should re-introduce an updated version of the old bumper sticker:
"If you're not bitter, you're not paying attention!"
Right the hell on! posted 04/16/2008 at 10:43:24
"If you're not bitter, you're not paying attention!"
Right the hell on! posted 04/16/2008 at 10:43:24
On Leaving The Tom Joyner Show
I used to listen to Tavis on my way to work on NPR quite often and generally liked what he had to say. But, this post and news that's come out about him recently has got me wondering, Who do you really serve Tavis? Are you serving God or are you serving yourself? How about instead of "asking God to give me the courage to say and do what I think is right" you ask him IF what you think is right is actually right? Otherwise, you become like Bush, full of shallow religion and zero humility. The ego is a very very tricky one... be careful, lest it make you stop questioning yourself.
Paradoxically, a man of faith is full of doubt.
I will pray for you Tavis. posted 04/15/2008 at 22:29:15
Paradoxically, a man of faith is full of doubt.
I will pray for you Tavis. posted 04/15/2008 at 22:29:15
It's Impossible to be Proud of the Way Hillary Has Run This Campaign
It just shows you that they really answer to the same corporate status quo establishment interests as the repubs. Power protects power. That's why outsiders that try to restore wisdom, peace, and social justice and that speak in deep nuanced truths instead of pithy vacuous sound bites are usually sidelined and attacked from all sides.
I don't think people realize what kind of potential threat Obama is to the power establishment (yes, HRC supporters, this now includes the Clinton wing of the Dem party). His ability to sidestep the big corporate money through his grass roots movement is, in fact, a revolution unlike any in American politics of the last century, probably. I hope he succeeds in pulling it off. posted 04/15/2008 at 21:53:06
I don't think people realize what kind of potential threat Obama is to the power establishment (yes, HRC supporters, this now includes the Clinton wing of the Dem party). His ability to sidestep the big corporate money through his grass roots movement is, in fact, a revolution unlike any in American politics of the last century, probably. I hope he succeeds in pulling it off. posted 04/15/2008 at 21:53:06
Brilliant. Thank you for summing up what me and my other progressive friends feel.
Anyone who thinks that the end justifies the means is no leader and no Christian.
Let the Demagoguery end. Any dollar donated to Hillary now is a dollar donated to McCain and the War mongering social darwinists that he represents. Take your tax cuts for billionaires and go into a rural villiage and explain how "top down" economics will make poor peoples' desperate existence better by reducing the Walmart family's annual tax burden by 250 million per year on just the dividend tax alone. Also, check this out: http://www.alternet.org/story/48278/
Keep speaking truth to power Mr. Obama.
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Who Would Jesus Bomb? Torture? Tax Cut? Please, explain it to me of sweet Pharisee. posted 04/15/2008 at 17:27:01
Anyone who thinks that the end justifies the means is no leader and no Christian.
Let the Demagoguery end. Any dollar donated to Hillary now is a dollar donated to McCain and the War mongering social darwinists that he represents. Take your tax cuts for billionaires and go into a rural villiage and explain how "top down" economics will make poor peoples' desperate existence better by reducing the Walmart family's annual tax burden by 250 million per year on just the dividend tax alone. Also, check this out: http://www.alternet.org/story/48278/
Keep speaking truth to power Mr. Obama.
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Who Would Jesus Bomb? Torture? Tax Cut? Please, explain it to me of sweet Pharisee. posted 04/15/2008 at 17:27:01
Campaign AdWatch: Obama Hits Back At Clinton, Lobbyists
When ANY person donates money, they have to legally state their employer and job title. So, even though I'm living off of a $24K a year fellowship, when I gave money to a campaign a few times this year because I've never been this inspired in my life, I had to put "University of Michigan" and "Graduate student" in the form. Does this mean my candidate is being bribed by the "education industry?"
We should be *very* clear about making a distinction between lobbyist contributions/junkets/etc. as well as PAC money on the one hand, and ordinary citizens who just happen to be employed (the lucky few, I guess) on the other.
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A bitter white Christian midwestener for .... well, you figure it out. posted 04/15/2008 at 13:13:38
We should be *very* clear about making a distinction between lobbyist contributions/junkets/etc. as well as PAC money on the one hand, and ordinary citizens who just happen to be employed (the lucky few, I guess) on the other.
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A bitter white Christian midwestener for .... well, you figure it out. posted 04/15/2008 at 13:13:38
Hillary Clinton is not a corporate shill republican, as far as I know.
"It would be a good question to ask Hillary Clinton if she is a republican." - Joe Liberman :-)
Any democrat who donates to Hillary Clinton's campaign right now is essentially donating to McCain's campaign. [If you disagree, play with this delegate calculator: http://www.slate.com/id/2185278/ Give HRC a win of %24 in each contest remaining and give her %18 more popular vote if Florida is seated.]
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A bitter white Christian miswesterner for Obama posted 04/15/2008 at 12:15:37
"It would be a good question to ask Hillary Clinton if she is a republican." - Joe Liberman :-)
Any democrat who donates to Hillary Clinton's campaign right now is essentially donating to McCain's campaign. [If you disagree, play with this delegate calculator: http://www.slate.com/id/2185278/ Give HRC a win of %24 in each contest remaining and give her %18 more popular vote if Florida is seated.]
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A bitter white Christian miswesterner for Obama posted 04/15/2008 at 12:15:37
Campaign AdWatch: Pennsylvania Yells At Obama
LOL. The woman serves on the board of the union-busting and worker abusing evil empire and suddenly she gives a crap about poor people. Give me a break. If she somehow gets the nomination now, the two party system in this country is finished. Mark my words. posted 04/14/2008 at 20:23:42
Wait, is this a parody or a real commercial? I'm confused.
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A bitter white Christian midwesterner for the candidate that speaks to us like adults (you figure it out) posted 04/14/2008 at 20:17:41
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A bitter white Christian midwesterner for the candidate that speaks to us like adults (you figure it out) posted 04/14/2008 at 20:17:41
The Uncharted: From Off The Bus to Meet the Press
I'm sorry, I don't care that she claims to have given $2300 to Obama's campaign (plus a bunch to Hillary and Fred Thompson, for good measure). This "journalism" has done a TAD over $2300 worth of damage to the man. Her original story does not report it fairly at all and you can tell from her tone where her loyalties really lie. Thanks to her double-team with McCain, all the mindless lemmings will think Obama's their enemy and not the corporate lobbyist shill class that McCain and Clinton represent so well.
Orwell is rolling in his grave. posted 04/14/2008 at 20:07:49
Orwell is rolling in his grave. posted 04/14/2008 at 20:07:49
Wesley Clark for VP!
Well said. I agree. The problem is, there are many in America who don't see it like you and I do. These folks tend to view military service as more important than, say, a constitutional law doctorate when it comes to running this democracy.
I don't know enough about Clark to say whether I like this idea or not, but I do think that in order to compete with McWar's "patriotism," Obama will have to go for a former general or the like to appease some of the jingoists and flag fellators that put American supremacy above moral leadership and humility. Clark seems to have been against the Iraq war and surge and called for a "diplomacy surge" in this Washington Post article. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/07/AR2007010700980_pf.html
He seems to have a decent head on his shoulders.
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A bitter white midwestern Christian for Obama posted 04/13/2008 at 16:11:45
I don't know enough about Clark to say whether I like this idea or not, but I do think that in order to compete with McWar's "patriotism," Obama will have to go for a former general or the like to appease some of the jingoists and flag fellators that put American supremacy above moral leadership and humility. Clark seems to have been against the Iraq war and surge and called for a "diplomacy surge" in this Washington Post article. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/07/AR2007010700980_pf.html
He seems to have a decent head on his shoulders.
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A bitter white midwestern Christian for Obama posted 04/13/2008 at 16:11:45
Bill Clinton Foundation Tied To Firm Assisting China In Tibet Crackdown
Another instance of shady dealings. This is just one more item in the long stream of dirt that surfaces daily about our politicians. No wonder I'm bitter.
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A bitter midwestern Christian white male for Obama posted 04/13/2008 at 11:54:27
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A bitter midwestern Christian white male for Obama posted 04/13/2008 at 11:54:27
Clinton Becomes A Gun Lover
Uhhmmm.... you have a typo there in the first line. The first word is spelled M-c-C-A-I-N.
Most of HRC's advisors are hawks and most of Obama's were and are against the Iraq debacle. If completely blatant lying is fine by you as long as it achieves the "right" objective, then I think you're in the right camp.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-loeb/hillary-heeds-hawks-how-_b_85853.html
The end does not justify the means.
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Who would Jesus bomb? posted 04/13/2008 at 12:00:12
Most of HRC's advisors are hawks and most of Obama's were and are against the Iraq debacle. If completely blatant lying is fine by you as long as it achieves the "right" objective, then I think you're in the right camp.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-loeb/hillary-heeds-hawks-how-_b_85853.html
The end does not justify the means.
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Who would Jesus bomb? posted 04/13/2008 at 12:00:12
Last time, after she talked crap about Obama's bowling she went on Ellen and got one pin out of two rolls. I bet if someone gave her a gun she'd shoot herself in the foot.
God. Now I understand why the republicans hate the Clintons. I think if she continues she'll turn half of the democrats in to right-winger violence-loving pharisees.
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Bitter white midewestern Christian for Obama posted 04/12/2008 at 23:09:17
God. Now I understand why the republicans hate the Clintons. I think if she continues she'll turn half of the democrats in to right-winger violence-loving pharisees.
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Bitter white midewestern Christian for Obama posted 04/12/2008 at 23:09:17
I actually do think she's tougher and more macho than Obama. That's one of the many reasons I support Obama.
Time to put the John Wayne world behind us, America.
Let's put intellect, honesty, and compassion above bravado, demagoguery, and violent responses to all our personal and national problems, shall we?
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A bitter white midwesterner for Obama posted 04/12/2008 at 23:05:29
Time to put the John Wayne world behind us, America.
Let's put intellect, honesty, and compassion above bravado, demagoguery, and violent responses to all our personal and national problems, shall we?
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A bitter white midwesterner for Obama posted 04/12/2008 at 23:05:29
Hey, I herad the NRA is looking for a new leader. Maybe if this whole third Clinton term thing doesn't work out... posted 04/12/2008 at 23:01:30
Alberto Gonzales Finding It Tough To Land A New Job
I heard Blackwater is hiring lawyers. They can afford to pay huge salaries thanks to their no-bid contract to patrol an endless civil war. Maybe they'll put him in the "field office." Seeing as he knows all about "enhanced interrogation" techniques, he should fit right in.
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Bitter middle class white midwesterner. posted 04/12/2008 at 19:34:57
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Bitter middle class white midwesterner. posted 04/12/2008 at 19:34:57
Was I thinking that this guy is a constitution-stomping immoral toady of the pharisees? I don't recall.
Don't shed any tears, some low-life glad-hander that wants a government contract in the next few months will snatch him up.
Hey Alberto! Who would Jesus torture?
How not to be bitter?
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Don't shed any tears, some low-life glad-hander that wants a government contract in the next few months will snatch him up.
Hey Alberto! Who would Jesus torture?
How not to be bitter?
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Axelrod: Obama Regrets But Won't Apologize For His Remarks
Amen. It's interesting how O's trying to do the right thing and speak uncomfortable truths while the others just pay lip service to their so-called values. Last I checked, gun violence, preemptive war, social darwinism, a laughable minimum wage, and tax cuts for billionaires are not Christian values.
In fact, Jesus rails against fearmongering, selling at the temple (e.g. evangelical TV), and neglecting the poor hundreds and hundreds of times more than he says anything about gays, guns, or abortion. But hey, what does he know about Christian values.
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A white Christian midwesterner for Obama posted 04/13/2008 at 12:40:09
In fact, Jesus rails against fearmongering, selling at the temple (e.g. evangelical TV), and neglecting the poor hundreds and hundreds of times more than he says anything about gays, guns, or abortion. But hey, what does he know about Christian values.
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A white Christian midwesterner for Obama posted 04/13/2008 at 12:40:09
Well put. While news stories of the Clintons' shady deals are coming in daily, we're supposed to be shocked that Obama said that people in tough situations are looking for someone to blame and have been led to believe that surface issues that will not likely alter their personal life in any way (such as equal rights for all, reasonable restrictions on assault weapons, etc.) are more important to vote on than whether the top 1 percent get a huge government tax windfall at the cost of these poor people's healthcare, education, gas prices, children's lives in Iraq, etc. etc. It's not that they're stupid, they're just less educated and less sophisticated about how the government, economy, and international politics really work. Obama has not shown any contempt of elitism. If anything, the Clintons and McCains are the ones that have raked in millions by being corporate shills. Dig around, the proof is abundant.
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A bitter white Christian midwesterner posted 04/13/2008 at 12:33:32
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A bitter white Christian midwesterner posted 04/13/2008 at 12:33:32
Uhmm... he's "on the ropes" for saying the truth? Please. If you'd know anything about group psychology you'd know that people always look for scapegoats when things aren't going their way. Usually these scapegoats are people that don't look like them or that have different accents or different sexual orientations, etc., etc. We all do this. The fact that poor rural people have been voting against their financial self-interest and for demagogues that scare them be appealing to surface issues is a truism in American politics of recent years.
That video youtube video is a complete waste of time. Obviously whoever put it together is no student of American history. All of those phrases are key slogans or ideas from the nation's past. Criticizing someone from using them is like criticizing people from saying "no taxation without representation" or "all men are created equal." Bravo.
Clinton is the one that has lot's of explaining to do: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/13/bill-clinton-foundation-t_n_96413.html
What's up with the Saudi Royal family giving Bill's charity 10 million dollars? How hard is Hillary going to press for alternative fuels? And you're criticizing Obama for using "yes we can." LOL
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A bitter white Christian midwesterner for Obama posted 04/13/2008 at 12:24:58
That video youtube video is a complete waste of time. Obviously whoever put it together is no student of American history. All of those phrases are key slogans or ideas from the nation's past. Criticizing someone from using them is like criticizing people from saying "no taxation without representation" or "all men are created equal." Bravo.
Clinton is the one that has lot's of explaining to do: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/13/bill-clinton-foundation-t_n_96413.html
What's up with the Saudi Royal family giving Bill's charity 10 million dollars? How hard is Hillary going to press for alternative fuels? And you're criticizing Obama for using "yes we can." LOL
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A bitter white Christian midwesterner for Obama posted 04/13/2008 at 12:24:58
This is a wonderful first-hand account from a Pennsylvanian.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/4/12/184747/973/89/485030 posted 04/12/2008 at 22:33:20
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/4/12/184747/973/89/485030 posted 04/12/2008 at 22:33:20
Faux Obama Supporter Mayhill Fowler Smears Obama
I have never been a preacher, but I beg to respectfully disagree. While McCain and Clinton may be ruthless politicians willing to say and do virtually anything to get to the white house, I think we should be very very careful about accusing them (or anyone else) of racism unless we have proof positive. This whole story is political opportunism on the part of Hillary, but to me Hillary and McCain shouldn't be accused of racism here.
While it's true that McCain opposed the MLK holiday and then the Civil rights act of 1990 (which didn't pass by one vote) along with most of the right-winngers in the senate, there is no evidence that he's actually a racist. Hillary, although, again, I think she's a ruthless politician who I once liked enough to send money to for her senate campaign but now see as putting her own winning ahead of any principles she may have had, does not strike me as a racist in any way. In fact, her campaign manager and close friend is an African American.
If we jump to call anyone a racist for any attack against Barack, we risk it becoming a "crying wolf" and furthermore bring the political discourse back into the gutter that Barack himself is trying to lift us out of. Let's "assume innocence" on this front.
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A bitter white Christian midwesterner for Obama posted 04/13/2008 at 16:35:31
While it's true that McCain opposed the MLK holiday and then the Civil rights act of 1990 (which didn't pass by one vote) along with most of the right-winngers in the senate, there is no evidence that he's actually a racist. Hillary, although, again, I think she's a ruthless politician who I once liked enough to send money to for her senate campaign but now see as putting her own winning ahead of any principles she may have had, does not strike me as a racist in any way. In fact, her campaign manager and close friend is an African American.
If we jump to call anyone a racist for any attack against Barack, we risk it becoming a "crying wolf" and furthermore bring the political discourse back into the gutter that Barack himself is trying to lift us out of. Let's "assume innocence" on this front.
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A bitter white Christian midwesterner for Obama posted 04/13/2008 at 16:35:31
I must have missed faux news this morning, which "facade" is that?
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A bitter white Christian midwesterner for Obama posted 04/13/2008 at 16:24:47
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A bitter white Christian midwesterner for Obama posted 04/13/2008 at 16:24:47
Punished for the Truth
The main reason he's taking so much heat is that he basically said the truth about both the republicans and the Clinton administration's effect on the financial interests of working class people and the former's appeal to divisive issues that have trivial impact on most people's daily lives. Both push(ed) policies that generally benefit the corporatist and affluent folks. The latter with his laissez-faire trade policies and the former with their laissez-faire everything policies.
Obama is doing what few thought possible. He's against the corporate shill status quo pols on both sides of the isle and thanks to his grass roots movement and fundraising actually has a good shot at becoming a leader of, for, and by the people. About time. If you support a return to government actually looking out for your interest instead of the big money interest, I strongly suggest you donate as much as this notion is worth to you to his campaign. I have. posted 04/12/2008 at 19:02:21
Obama is doing what few thought possible. He's against the corporate shill status quo pols on both sides of the isle and thanks to his grass roots movement and fundraising actually has a good shot at becoming a leader of, for, and by the people. About time. If you support a return to government actually looking out for your interest instead of the big money interest, I strongly suggest you donate as much as this notion is worth to you to his campaign. I have. posted 04/12/2008 at 19:02:21
Right on! Or the Saudi Royal family. I mean, they make like 109 million a minute. Is this why they gave $10 million to Clinton's library... right?... to help ordinary people.
Please. This is another one of those guilt-by-association attacks. Oprah is not running for office and virtually no one that supports Obama gives a crap if she does or not.
This whole story is pure reaching. They're spinning something that's essentially true, although nuanced and perhaps not articulated precisely, into some sort of attack on the working class. If you look at Obama's policies and everything he's said, this notion is ludicrous. posted 04/12/2008 at 18:52:56
Please. This is another one of those guilt-by-association attacks. Oprah is not running for office and virtually no one that supports Obama gives a crap if she does or not.
This whole story is pure reaching. They're spinning something that's essentially true, although nuanced and perhaps not articulated precisely, into some sort of attack on the working class. If you look at Obama's policies and everything he's said, this notion is ludicrous. posted 04/12/2008 at 18:52:56
Obama 'Small Town' Comments Draw Fire, Support
Look who's out of touch with the little guy:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/zp-heller/wal-mart-for-president_b_96160.html posted 04/12/2008 at 21:59:46
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/zp-heller/wal-mart-for-president_b_96160.html posted 04/12/2008 at 21:59:46
How clever! A poet! Actually, Obama hasn't said or done a single racist thing. I don't know what news you follow, but he doesn't have a "score to settle." He was raised by his white grandparents and refuses to pander to the black establishment (see Tavis Smiley article on HP). If you actually put your hate or disgust or whatever aside for a moment and really hear what he's saying, you'll see that he's trying to bridge the gap between the races and make both sides understand each other. Watch his speech on race (again) and this time just listen without judging and without prejudgment. He's trying to appeal to common ground. Open your heart. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWe7wTVbLUU
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Blessed are the peacemakers... posted 04/11/2008 at 23:04:42
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Blessed are the peacemakers... posted 04/11/2008 at 23:04:42
Another thing, the McCain's are worth around 100 million and Billary earned around that much in the last 7 years. Obama made like less than 5 percent of that in his lifetime. How is it that he's elitist? This is the same ol' tactic of if you've got something you're ashamed of then accuse your enemy of having it before he accuses you. Pathetic. Let's see if PA people are smart enough to see through this spin. I have faith in them. posted 04/11/2008 at 22:44:40
If you look at the other headlines this week about Clinton, it's obvious she's desperate to change the subject to anything else but her finances and Bubba's millions that he got from Columbia and Saudi Royal Family (10 million for his library), etc. What Obama said is right. When people get screwed economically they tend to look for someone to blame and it makes them bitter and angry and they turn to shallow issues (and shallow religion in the case of many - versus deeper religion). It's not a knock on them but on what's happened to them.
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White Christian Midwesterner for Obama posted 04/11/2008 at 22:41:59
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White Christian Midwesterner for Obama posted 04/11/2008 at 22:41:59
Obama: No Surprise That Hard-Pressed Pennsylvanians Turn Bitter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sc9PepjyDow
McCains are worth about 100 million. Clintons earned more than that in the last 7 years. Obama probably earned less than 5 percent that in his entire lifetime. Who's out of touch?
Clinton got 10 million from the Saudi royal family (Remember women: Saudi Arabia is one of the only countries in the world that doesn't even let women VOTE). Who's out of touch?
Hillary has taken more money from the healthcare lobbyists than any candidate. Obama doesn't take money from any lobbyists or PACs. Who's out of touch?
McCain supports taxes for the wealthiest few. And now flip-flopped on torture. Who's out of touch? posted 04/11/2008 at 23:58:00
McCains are worth about 100 million. Clintons earned more than that in the last 7 years. Obama probably earned less than 5 percent that in his entire lifetime. Who's out of touch?
Clinton got 10 million from the Saudi royal family (Remember women: Saudi Arabia is one of the only countries in the world that doesn't even let women VOTE). Who's out of touch?
Hillary has taken more money from the healthcare lobbyists than any candidate. Obama doesn't take money from any lobbyists or PACs. Who's out of touch?
McCain supports taxes for the wealthiest few. And now flip-flopped on torture. Who's out of touch? posted 04/11/2008 at 23:58:00
Obama's Dukakis Moment: Bowling Blunders Matter
I was going to vote for Obama, but now that I see he can't bowl superbly I have doubts about his ability as an executive and leader. After all, America's bowling alleys are filled with the intelligentsia and inspiring prophets of our times.
- The Dude
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Walter Sobchak: OVER THE LINE!
Smokey: Huh?
Walter Sobchak: I'm sorry, Smokey. You were over the line, that's a foul.
Smokey: Bullshit. Mark it 8, Dude.
Walter Sobchak: Uh, excuse me. Mark it zero. Next frame.
Smokey: Bullshit, Walter. Mark it 8, Dude.
Walter Sobchak: Smokey, this is not 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules. posted 04/09/2008 at 12:50:10
- The Dude
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Walter Sobchak: OVER THE LINE!
Smokey: Huh?
Walter Sobchak: I'm sorry, Smokey. You were over the line, that's a foul.
Smokey: Bullshit. Mark it 8, Dude.
Walter Sobchak: Uh, excuse me. Mark it zero. Next frame.
Smokey: Bullshit, Walter. Mark it 8, Dude.
Walter Sobchak: Smokey, this is not 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules. posted 04/09/2008 at 12:50:10
Dave forgot to mention that after Hillary's bravado about her "bowl off challenge," she also got a gutter ball followed by a single pin hit on ellen's show. But, this is all beside the point. Obama has shown bigger guts by doing something he is bad at in public than most men would. Popular with the culture or not, his non-macho persona is exactly the type of leadership that we need and the antithesis of Bush.
Kerry's air of elitism stemmed mostly not from his Ivy League education but from his old-money roots (remember, he was a Yale Skull and Bonesman just like Bush). As I am an educated progressive, his roots gave me strong pause. With Obama, a truly "self made" man, there is absolutely no comparison. To suggest there is, in my opinion, is a huge desperate reach. [The macho obsessed are encouraged to check out "Wild Man's Journey: Reflections on Male Spirituality" by Richard Rohr] posted 04/09/2008 at 11:33:20
Kerry's air of elitism stemmed mostly not from his Ivy League education but from his old-money roots (remember, he was a Yale Skull and Bonesman just like Bush). As I am an educated progressive, his roots gave me strong pause. With Obama, a truly "self made" man, there is absolutely no comparison. To suggest there is, in my opinion, is a huge desperate reach. [The macho obsessed are encouraged to check out "Wild Man's Journey: Reflections on Male Spirituality" by Richard Rohr] posted 04/09/2008 at 11:33:20
Bill Clinton's Ties To Colombia Trade Deal Stronger Than Even Penn's
$200,000 to 500,000 to give a single speech (times four speeches in this particular example) is a perfect way to make bribes look completely legitimate.
Imagine if the government of Saudi Arabia gave bush 5 million dollars to come sweep one of the floors in one of the many palaces. Would that be a bribe or just a job? (In fact, they did close to this if you look at his pre-presidential business dealings, but I digress). As a young progressive, I used to respect Clinton, but now I see what he's really about. He may be Charming and intelligent, but any trace of principle that I thought he had must have been imagined. I can only imagine what people paying so much for his speeches will expect from Hillary if she makes it to the WH (or stays in the Senate, for that matter). As someone who donated to her senatorial campaign before, I'm filled with regret. posted 04/08/2008 at 19:03:26
Imagine if the government of Saudi Arabia gave bush 5 million dollars to come sweep one of the floors in one of the many palaces. Would that be a bribe or just a job? (In fact, they did close to this if you look at his pre-presidential business dealings, but I digress). As a young progressive, I used to respect Clinton, but now I see what he's really about. He may be Charming and intelligent, but any trace of principle that I thought he had must have been imagined. I can only imagine what people paying so much for his speeches will expect from Hillary if she makes it to the WH (or stays in the Senate, for that matter). As someone who donated to her senatorial campaign before, I'm filled with regret. posted 04/08/2008 at 19:03:26
$200,000 to 500,000 to give a single speech (times four speeches in this particular example) is a perfect way to make bribes look completely legitimate.
Imagine if the Government of Saudi Arabia gave bush 5 million dollars to come sweep one the floors in one of the many palaces. Would that be a bribe or just a job? (In fact, they did close to this if you look at his pre-presidential business dealings, but I digress). I used to respect Clinton, but now I see what he's really about. He may be Charming and intelligent, but any trace of principle that I thought he had must have been imagined. posted 04/08/2008 at 14:00:01
Imagine if the Government of Saudi Arabia gave bush 5 million dollars to come sweep one the floors in one of the many palaces. Would that be a bribe or just a job? (In fact, they did close to this if you look at his pre-presidential business dealings, but I digress). I used to respect Clinton, but now I see what he's really about. He may be Charming and intelligent, but any trace of principle that I thought he had must have been imagined. posted 04/08/2008 at 14:00:01
John McCain Repeats Al-Qaida Shiite Confusion
Damn You Roosevelt! No turnip tax!! LOL
http://www.thefrown.com/flash/_episode/07/06/495.swf posted 04/08/2008 at 13:46:26
http://www.thefrown.com/flash/_episode/07/06/495.swf posted 04/08/2008 at 13:46:26
If Patraeus deserved credit, he would have "burst out laughing" (or crying) and quit his job months ago. Since he hasn't, we know he's a good politician doing what's best for his career. I bet he and McWar practiced the whole exchange on the phone last night. posted 04/08/2008 at 13:44:47
Oh come now... it's not like John Q. Public can tell the difference between a leader, a normal politician, or a complete imbecile. I mean, we Americans elected Bush twice!!! The little shrub can't even figure out how to pronounce nuclear and admitted to never read the news... even more practice on the internets or using the google didn't help him. posted 04/08/2008 at 13:41:40
Officials Put Out Olympic Torch 3 Times
If he were a leader of principle and not profit, Bush would boycott the Olympic Opening ceremony. Alas, we al know he won't. posted 04/07/2008 at 11:51:48
Obama: No Need For Foreign Policy Help From V.P.
Very cynical of you, Ms. Fowler. Not unlike the politics of the candidate you support, I imagine. posted 04/07/2008 at 11:31:30
Rupert Murdoch's Daughter Holds Obama Fundraiser
.... and daddy (Fox News owner) helps McSame. Billionaires might be filthy, but they're not stupid. posted 04/02/2008 at 11:25:00
Scarborough Thinks Obama Bowls Like A Little Girl
Thank God! The last thing this country needs is another macho man. Obama's secure enough that he doesn't need to puff up his chest and don a flight jacket to declare "mission accomplished" with his package visible for the world to see. If I were a woman voter, I'd probably prefer to support his integrated feminine side to Hillary's disowned feminine side. I know many people reading this won't understand, but have a read of "Wild Man's Journey" by Richard Rohr, OFM and you'll know what I mean. As a white Christian male, I'm proud to be an Obama supporter in a world full of sad men who were never affirmed by their father, like poor Joe over here. I bet he drives a hummer with "no fear" on the back. posted 03/31/2008 at 20:36:10
Saudi Prince Plans Mile-High Tower In The Desert
Again, before the Bush/McCain "freedom spreading" nightmare, oil was only $33 a barrel. Now, it's over $105. I'm surprised they don't build a ten mile tower out of gold. Imagine if we took the 12 billion a month being burned on the Iraq morass and invested it in solar power cells and research. Imagine if we invested that much in plug-in hybrid car research. What if we sent 500 million a month to build schools and housing for Palestinian kids? Which would stop the war on terror faster and with fewer casualties? Maybe if Haliburton and all the defense contractors has businesses building schools and homes then we could actually put through such a "radical" idea. God Help this world. posted 03/31/2008 at 19:55:40
It's more like an erection caused by our SUVs and the Bush family's support of the only major country that doesn't allow women to vote and from which most of the 19 highjackers came from, and the fact that before Bush's war oil was only $33 a barrel and now it's over $105. Money coming out of the ground; if only crude was white it would fit this image perfectly.
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On a related note, do you think this prince is trying to compensate for something? posted 03/31/2008 at 19:43:21
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On a related note, do you think this prince is trying to compensate for something? posted 03/31/2008 at 19:43:21
Hooked on Hillary
Agreed. If they stuck to the issues, with so many people watching intently it could give them a chance to both educate Americans on the issues and to make a strong case against McCain. This way, win or lose, each of them will have taken the high road and won on merits. Hillary seems to me like someone who used to be an idealist, but then came to believe that the end (her "helping the country") justifies the means (nasty politics, lies, personal attacks, etc.). I respected her before I saw that she had undergone this transformation. posted 03/30/2008 at 17:15:17
Michigan January 15 Primary Ruled Unconstitutional, But No Re-vote Ordered
Democrats (that follow the news) know that Clinton was the one that in some sense broke the rules by not taking her name off the ballot, like every other major candidate did. What's more, the reason why a revote would not be fair is that a lot of Obama supporters are open-minded types or independents who voted in the Republican primary instead, knowing that the Dem vote didn't count in Michigan. Since you can't vote twice, this would mean that many of Obama's supporters would be effectively "disenfranchised." Also, since Obama and Clinton polled about 50/50 in March, and since once he starts campaigning and overcomes Clinton's name recognition he starts surging in most states, I doubt he actually feared a fair fight in Michigan. Besides, everyone agreed on the rules in the beginning. posted 04/02/2008 at 11:22:54
Watch: Paul Begala Says Hillary Clinton Dropping Out As Likely As "Monkeys Flying Out Of My Butt"
Brilliant! posted 03/30/2008 at 13:30:29
Man Who Inspired Wright Sermon: I Would Have Walked Out Of His Church
Lying AND he invented a time machine. Come on people, did ANYONE here bother to watch the longer video? Open your eyes, open your mind, and open your hearts. Peace.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOdlnzkeoyQ
http://www.youtube.com/user/TRINITYCHGO posted 03/26/2008 at 23:01:57
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOdlnzkeoyQ
http://www.youtube.com/user/TRINITYCHGO posted 03/26/2008 at 23:01:57
Republican Ed Peck has no time to get the whole context. Why should he be an independent thinker and at least see his own name mentioned in the full sermon, when Fox will replay the "important" parts for him. Gosh, how did this guy become an ambassador? People, please, for the love of God, country, the world, and truth, open your minds and hearts a little before you cast that stone. Was Jesus a prostitute or tax collector because he hung out with them? Peace.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/03/quote-for-th-33.html
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/03/martin-marty-on.html posted 03/26/2008 at 22:54:04
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/03/quote-for-th-33.html
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/03/martin-marty-on.html posted 03/26/2008 at 22:54:04
The Tide Is Turning
Bob, Please don't be put off by the naysayers. "Forgive them for they know not what they do." I'm a 29 year old white male, and I cried during this video, especially thanks to the babies in the war zone and hurricane zone. I showed it to my wife and she nearly cried as well. I pray that this country is wise enough to open its eyes and see the choice before it. Thank you again for this video. [For (fair-minded people) who are still fuming at Dr. Wright's comments, please have a read here: http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/03/martin-marty-on.html ] Peace. posted 03/26/2008 at 22:29:33
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