May 18, 2008
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Bill Clinton Suggests Young Voters Too Easily Fooled
He is being sarcastic. Watch the video. It's funny and sad. posted 04/16/2008 at 08:53:52
Great video. That about says it all. posted 04/16/2008 at 08:45:55
Are you in touch with reality? posted 04/16/2008 at 08:42:19
And who is going to fight these wars when our military is stretched so thin. If you don't think there's a possibility of a draft, think again. Who will fight? The young people. Who will pay for the war? All of us, and the young for years to come. So if we expect them to extracate us from the mess we are in, we need to respect their opinion and not degrade them as Bill is. posted 04/16/2008 at 08:39:46
First of all Bill was impeached for lying under oath, not for the affair with Monica. If he had just told the truth instead of staring us in the face and lying he would never have been impeached. We all could have moved on and concentrated on what was important to this country. We have Bush because of the Clintons. They paved the way for the Republicans. You want to take it further. We have this war because of the Clintons. Without Bills antics in the Whitehouse Al Gore would have been president because Bush wouldn't have had a leg or a brain cell to stand on. But, people were so sick of the Clintons and Bills sexual escapades and lies, Al Gore had to fight for what should have been an easy win. He lost. We have Bush, Cheney, two wars and if McCain gets back in we'll be bombing Iran. Do I sound bitter? You better believe I am. Hearing Bill and Hillary trash the likely Dem nominee and those who vote for him makes me sick. And by the way, you may be holding onto the good years of the 90's but the bank deregulation and Nafta have brought us into the 21st century and things aren't looking that great. Those were policies of his administration and now we and our children are screwed. posted 04/16/2008 at 08:20:17
Clinton sketches agenda for first 100 days as president
skip4Obama,
Hillary didn't mention when that first 100 days would be. She is now looking at 2012. That's after she loses the nomination, but makes sure she and Bill do everything they can to tear down Obama. She would like to be president this time, but since she has lost the nomination she will use the time to her advantage and do her best to make sure Obama isn't president. That way she can run again in 2012. It doesn't work that way. We won't forget. The presidency should have easily been the Dems this year, but Hillary ran a poor campaign and then is doing her best to make sure Obama goes down with her. If she were taking him down on valid issues that would be one thing. But, she is making sure that she keeps Rev Wright and now this statement on bitter Americans in the media. What did Obama do when Hillary was caught lying about Nafta, Bosnia, etc. Nothing. He didn't go after another Democrat. I can tell you that I am a bitter American. I get more bitter by the day as I watch the Clintons put their own interests before the interest of the Dem party and everyone else. And, if I see one more picture of Hillary pointing and smiling I am going to get sick! Who is she pointing and smiling at? posted 04/15/2008 at 15:26:40
Hillary didn't mention when that first 100 days would be. She is now looking at 2012. That's after she loses the nomination, but makes sure she and Bill do everything they can to tear down Obama. She would like to be president this time, but since she has lost the nomination she will use the time to her advantage and do her best to make sure Obama isn't president. That way she can run again in 2012. It doesn't work that way. We won't forget. The presidency should have easily been the Dems this year, but Hillary ran a poor campaign and then is doing her best to make sure Obama goes down with her. If she were taking him down on valid issues that would be one thing. But, she is making sure that she keeps Rev Wright and now this statement on bitter Americans in the media. What did Obama do when Hillary was caught lying about Nafta, Bosnia, etc. Nothing. He didn't go after another Democrat. I can tell you that I am a bitter American. I get more bitter by the day as I watch the Clintons put their own interests before the interest of the Dem party and everyone else. And, if I see one more picture of Hillary pointing and smiling I am going to get sick! Who is she pointing and smiling at? posted 04/15/2008 at 15:26:40
Polygamist Ranch Women: We Were Tricked Into Giving Up Our Children
Are you including being married off to an old man before these girls are 14 or 15? That also has to be a mini-death. posted 04/15/2008 at 22:05:36
Why Hillary Clinton's Slash-and-Burn Politics May Hurt Her More Than Obama
Just wait until the Peter Paul trial gets going later this month. There is nothing to Rezko. We'll see if there is anything to Peter Paul. posted 04/15/2008 at 21:53:08
They will. Hillary is done, you and she just don't know it yet.
By the way in a matter of hours Obama has had over 11,000 brand new donors to his campaign, with many of those who have donated before matching their donations. In just over an hour there were 4000 new donors. That's a lot of money $25 to $50 at a time. posted 04/15/2008 at 21:51:47
By the way in a matter of hours Obama has had over 11,000 brand new donors to his campaign, with many of those who have donated before matching their donations. In just over an hour there were 4000 new donors. That's a lot of money $25 to $50 at a time. posted 04/15/2008 at 21:51:47
Here's the link on Florida:
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/03/facts-fairness-and-fraud-histo.php posted 04/15/2008 at 21:45:50
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/03/facts-fairness-and-fraud-histo.php posted 04/15/2008 at 21:45:50
Keep spreading the lie that Obama didn't allow the Florida revote. There were issues with the mail in ballot and they couldn't have a primary because several counties are getting new voting machines and they had no voting machines.
Why don't you read what really happened in Florida.
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/03/facts-fairness-and-fraud-histo.php posted 04/15/2008 at 21:40:54
Why don't you read what really happened in Florida.
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/03/facts-fairness-and-fraud-histo.php posted 04/15/2008 at 21:40:54
How do you know that Hillary will win Florida? Obama will carry states that dems haven't been competative in. The nomination is lost for Hillary. Maybe you need to get over it. posted 04/15/2008 at 21:34:26
grrrfren,
I have always voted dem for president (going back to Carter). If Hillary is the nominee I don't know how I will bring myself to vote for her. I know that I need to support the dem against McCain. I don't want another war. I want the war in Iraq to end. Still, the thought of voting for Hillary literally makes me ill after all I have seen during this campaign. For those Hillary supporters who think Obama has done the same, you haven't been watching. He responds to her attacks, but he doesn't attack her.
I find it sad that the Clintons, who have been appreciated by so many dems through the years are losing the support of those who supported them through their difficult years. posted 04/15/2008 at 21:31:20
I have always voted dem for president (going back to Carter). If Hillary is the nominee I don't know how I will bring myself to vote for her. I know that I need to support the dem against McCain. I don't want another war. I want the war in Iraq to end. Still, the thought of voting for Hillary literally makes me ill after all I have seen during this campaign. For those Hillary supporters who think Obama has done the same, you haven't been watching. He responds to her attacks, but he doesn't attack her.
I find it sad that the Clintons, who have been appreciated by so many dems through the years are losing the support of those who supported them through their difficult years. posted 04/15/2008 at 21:31:20
I'm sure you proabably won't go to this site because you want to believe that Obama isn't really all that far ahead. Make no mistake, he is.
http://www.obamaiswinning.com/
By the way, the Florida Dems were involved in the vote that moved the primary. The Florida House voted 118-0 in favor of moving the primary and the Senate voted 37-2. So, the idea that the date was shoved down their throats just isn't true. posted 04/15/2008 at 21:08:51
http://www.obamaiswinning.com/
By the way, the Florida Dems were involved in the vote that moved the primary. The Florida House voted 118-0 in favor of moving the primary and the Senate voted 37-2. So, the idea that the date was shoved down their throats just isn't true. posted 04/15/2008 at 21:08:51
I'm sure there are some other things out there that we don't know about Hillary. This idea that she has been completely vetted is ridiculous.
The danger with slash and burn from your own party is that it alienates future voters. Hillary is doing a great job of that. I honestly don't know how I would vote for her if she, by some miracle, is the nominee. She has spent so much time personally attacking Obama I no longer see her strengths. This has become less and less about the issues and more about personal attacks on Obama. There is a difference. posted 04/15/2008 at 20:57:26
The danger with slash and burn from your own party is that it alienates future voters. Hillary is doing a great job of that. I honestly don't know how I would vote for her if she, by some miracle, is the nominee. She has spent so much time personally attacking Obama I no longer see her strengths. This has become less and less about the issues and more about personal attacks on Obama. There is a difference. posted 04/15/2008 at 20:57:26
Endorsing went so well for Govenor Richardson. I would expect that we will start to see endorsements for Obama after NC and IN. Hillary has a 10% chance of becoming the nominee. It is such a longshot at this point it not really much of a possibility. posted 04/15/2008 at 20:51:33
I bet Al Gore was really impressed with Hillary's comment that he lost the 2000 election because he was an elitist. What a way to warm on of the more influential democrats to your cause. The comment may have gone right past many of us, but not Al Gore and other democrats.
By the way, those of you who rely on polls to predict November aren't being very realistic. These polls are fluid and John McCain has gotten a pass up to this point because the battle is between Obama and Hillary. We've seen polls swing 10 to 20 pts in a matter of days or a couple of weeks. So, deciding who is will be elected based on these polls makes no sense. How about the person who has the most pledged delegates, the most states won, and the popular vote should be the nominee? posted 04/15/2008 at 20:49:00
By the way, those of you who rely on polls to predict November aren't being very realistic. These polls are fluid and John McCain has gotten a pass up to this point because the battle is between Obama and Hillary. We've seen polls swing 10 to 20 pts in a matter of days or a couple of weeks. So, deciding who is will be elected based on these polls makes no sense. How about the person who has the most pledged delegates, the most states won, and the popular vote should be the nominee? posted 04/15/2008 at 20:49:00
The Uncharted: From Off The Bus to Meet the Press
If his mother was single and he lived with her during that time, he lived with a single mother. So, she had the support of his grandparents. It doesn't erase the fact that he was raised by a mother who was single a good portion of his life. posted 04/15/2008 at 09:41:08
Thomas Frank On Obama: Not That Controversial
And a win in Florida doesn't mean you will be president, and it's a long way until November. Polls today about the general election mean little. posted 04/14/2008 at 14:17:24
Where did you get that? posted 04/14/2008 at 14:15:48
He already knows more in his years of public service than Hillary will learn in a lifetime. He doesn't need to VP. posted 04/14/2008 at 14:15:13
Blatant lies don't bother you? posted 04/14/2008 at 14:12:57
How about this poll from today which has Obama down by 3 in PA? The polls are all over the board, so it doesn't do much good to handpick the one you think tells the story.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/docs/ToplinePollMemoPAPrimary-4-14-2008.htm posted 04/14/2008 at 14:04:11
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/docs/ToplinePollMemoPAPrimary-4-14-2008.htm posted 04/14/2008 at 14:04:11
Well, maybe they a calling the Clinton campaign on racism because that's exactly what it was, i.e. Bill in SC, Ferrero, etc. posted 04/14/2008 at 13:54:04
There are 49 other states. posted 04/14/2008 at 13:46:10
You don't depend on the government for anything? If your house is burning down do you get out a hose to put out the fire or do you expect the firemen to come when you dial 9-1-1? How about the roads we drive on, the police who protect us, the water we drink, the air traffic controllers who make sure plans aren't flying into one another, and the list goes on? Do you ever rely on any of them? If you do, you are relying on the government. So, just because you aren't receiving welfare, which most Americans aren't, doesn't make you self sufficient or a better person. We all need the government and rely on it everyday. posted 04/14/2008 at 13:44:48
Bill Clinton Flashback: "All These Economically Insecure White People...Are Scared To Death"
He didn't say that. He did say what would happen if we went to war with Iraq and he was right.
A lie is lie. How do you explain that. Hillary was the one who brought up Bosnia and Nafta. She is the one who lied. It's not as if people sifted through this and found these issues. She brought them up. posted 04/13/2008 at 20:01:39
A lie is lie. How do you explain that. Hillary was the one who brought up Bosnia and Nafta. She is the one who lied. It's not as if people sifted through this and found these issues. She brought them up. posted 04/13/2008 at 20:01:39
REally? Will he have no influence? Did we not hear that we would get two for one? Bill may not be president, but I don't think he's going to settle for being first spouse either. posted 04/13/2008 at 19:56:05
Like I don't have dishes to do, a child who has homework, and laundry to finish. Life is so hard for you. Only you can understand what it is to be a true American. Give me a break. Go to another website and you will see the frequent bloggers for Hillary and McCain. This is just more of the Obama is an elitist and only represents the elite, while Hillary is for the common person. I can bet that you as a Clinton supporter are no more "common" than I am as an Obama supporter. posted 04/13/2008 at 19:54:40
She will do anything or say anything to get elected.
I was against the war before Obama.
Sniper fire in Bosnia.
I was against Nafta from the start. posted 04/13/2008 at 19:45:13
I was against the war before Obama.
Sniper fire in Bosnia.
I was against Nafta from the start. posted 04/13/2008 at 19:45:13
I wonder how the same media that is indignant about Iraq was the media that was in bed with the Bush administration as the lead us to Iraq. If they had done their jobs then we wouldn't be were we are today. Instead they act as if they had nothing to do with the march to war. If they had done their jobs the reporting would have been more balanced. The MSM is neither pro Clinton, pro Obama, or pro McCain. They are just pro whatever ratings story they can dig up without regard to the truth. Turn off these channels. Let them know that we will get our news elsewhere until they decide to do some investigative journalism which more closely reflects the truth instead of this "opinion news" that has nothing to do with the actual truth. posted 04/13/2008 at 19:42:46
Thinkfree,
I appreciate your comment, but think there was more to Obama's comment. To me, his comment speaks to voting on moral issues that probably won't affect your life in the longrun even though that vote will affect you ecomonically. I think that Bush was re-elected in part because of the gay marriage and abortion issue. Conservatives came out in droves to vote for t he "moral" choice, which they felt was George Bush. Never mind that he had lied to us about the war and so many other issues. Never mind that he doesn't have the interests of most Americans in mind, especially those from middle or lower incomes. Yet, he won that election in part because same sex marriage became such an issue in the election.
Ultimately, I believe that each of us needs to go with the canidate that most meets our moral and ecomonic compass. We can't vote on single issues like gun control, abortion, same sex marrigage etc. We did that with George Bush and it didn't turn out well. Go with the one that most reflects you ideology in general. Go with the one that that will best benefit you economically. I am a democrat and an Obama supporter because I think he best represents what I think and what I believe in. posted 04/13/2008 at 19:34:01
I appreciate your comment, but think there was more to Obama's comment. To me, his comment speaks to voting on moral issues that probably won't affect your life in the longrun even though that vote will affect you ecomonically. I think that Bush was re-elected in part because of the gay marriage and abortion issue. Conservatives came out in droves to vote for t he "moral" choice, which they felt was George Bush. Never mind that he had lied to us about the war and so many other issues. Never mind that he doesn't have the interests of most Americans in mind, especially those from middle or lower incomes. Yet, he won that election in part because same sex marriage became such an issue in the election.
Ultimately, I believe that each of us needs to go with the canidate that most meets our moral and ecomonic compass. We can't vote on single issues like gun control, abortion, same sex marrigage etc. We did that with George Bush and it didn't turn out well. Go with the one that most reflects you ideology in general. Go with the one that that will best benefit you economically. I am a democrat and an Obama supporter because I think he best represents what I think and what I believe in. posted 04/13/2008 at 19:34:01
Richard Belzer To Fill In During Randi Rhodes' Air America Time Slot
Have you seen Richard Belzer on Real Time with Bill Maher? He is great on the panel. He knows the issues, and at least on that show he makes no attempts at comedy. He is serious about the issues. He will do well. posted 04/10/2008 at 21:41:16
Time Mag: How Obama's Mom Made Him Who He Is
If the Obamas are on the cover of magazines and are featured in magazines it is because it is what is selling right now. They aren't putting anyone on the cover for our benefit. I appreciate the article since it allows us to see another side of Obama and it acquaints us with his mother who seems to have been an amazing woman. Still, this article wasn't part of any media bias. Obama is one of the most popular people in the US today and having his mother on the cover of Time and Michelle on the cover of Newsweek will sell a lot of magazines. posted 04/10/2008 at 13:28:05
Inside Clinton's Elton John Fundraiser: Singer Amazed By "Misogynistic Attitudes" Of Some In USA
Princess Diana spent part of the last years of her life calling on an international ban on landmines. Hillary voted against an amendment to ban cluster bombs in civilian areas. Hillary claims to be an advocate for children and women and yet children are often the victims of cluster bombs. She joined with the Republicans to defeat this amendment which Obama voted for. Could one of you Hillary supporters explain this vote to me? Why would she side with the Republicans on this? I am sure Lieberman voted for it, but why would a defender of women and children vote for this? posted 04/10/2008 at 07:18:43
At least he's paying his bills. It looks like UC Davis is going to take the Clinton campaign to collection for unpaid bills if the $6000 owed isn't paid in the next month ($5000 to the UCD police for security and $500 to the school's band). Maybe the 2.5 million will help them settle with the small companies across the county they owe money to.
Obama may be outspending Clinton in PA by a lot, but to go from a 20+% lead to a very small lead, there is no doubt that it is money well spent by the campaign. Hes' not spending his money on party platters, donuts, rooms at the Belagio, and other luxury items as the Clinton campaign has (that's on top of millions to Wolfson and Penn). You can't tell me Hillary wouldn't be spending more if she didn't owe so much and her campaign wasn't in serious financial trouble. Obama had a huge job in front of him as he went into PA well behind Hillary. People knew little of him and the Rev Wright loops were burned into their minds. That he is even competing now in PA is t he true story of PA. I don't know that he will win, but it will not be t he blowout Hillary needs. posted 04/10/2008 at 07:05:08
Obama may be outspending Clinton in PA by a lot, but to go from a 20+% lead to a very small lead, there is no doubt that it is money well spent by the campaign. Hes' not spending his money on party platters, donuts, rooms at the Belagio, and other luxury items as the Clinton campaign has (that's on top of millions to Wolfson and Penn). You can't tell me Hillary wouldn't be spending more if she didn't owe so much and her campaign wasn't in serious financial trouble. Obama had a huge job in front of him as he went into PA well behind Hillary. People knew little of him and the Rev Wright loops were burned into their minds. That he is even competing now in PA is t he true story of PA. I don't know that he will win, but it will not be t he blowout Hillary needs. posted 04/10/2008 at 07:05:08
Obama: Put Olympics Opening Ceremony Boycott On The Table
He spoke out against the Chinese government on 3-15 when the Tibetan monks were detained following peaceful protests. He talked then of the need of the Chinese government to respect the basic rights of the Tibetan people and to disclose the location of the detained monks. You may not have listened to anything he said or read anything about it because there was little on TV beyond the Rev Wright speech. Still, Obama spoke out against the Chinese gov't long before the torch protests which are result of the detaining and killing of the Tibetan monks. He knows what is happening in the world and is ahead of most of us to wait to hear the issue from the MSM. posted 04/10/2008 at 14:21:33
By the way, Obama spoke out about the violence against the Tibetan Buddhist monks back when the when the Chinese tried to quell the peaceful protests of the monks and killed several of them (3-15-08). That is the issues that has created the suggestion about boycotting the Olympics. So, instead of suggesting the boycott of the Olympics at that time he condemned the violence in response to peaceful protests and called to the Chinese government to respect the basic rights of the Tibetan people and to disclose the whereabouts of the detained monks. So, it's not as if Obama just found out about China, Tibet, and Sudan yesterday. He's been talking about this for a long time.
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gYNrWbklSBpsRs1XZi1FyS8L0qrA posted 04/10/2008 at 14:12:14
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gYNrWbklSBpsRs1XZi1FyS8L0qrA posted 04/10/2008 at 14:12:14
Please. Hillary has come out after many of the candidates on issues. It's no wonder Elizabeth Edwards likes Hillary's healthcare plan, it's essentially John's plan that he introduced long before. posted 04/10/2008 at 13:58:12
Lanny Davis: Obama's Wright Problem
Lets see some links here. posted 04/09/2008 at 15:32:00
Kids Pushing Parents To Back Obama
Who do you think is going to have to pay most for the damage done during the last seven years. We all will. However, it is their generation that will have to fight this war if it isn't brought to an end. We will all suffer economically, but this war is going to be a drain on their future. I would imagine the young people are more informed about the issues than many of their parents. You don't givethem the credit they deserve. It is refreshing to see them engaged and involved. They could probably debate you on most of the issues. posted 04/08/2008 at 06:25:32
Report: McCain's Profane Tirade At His Wife
Well, as a woman it shows to me a little more about his view of women, especially his wife. My husband and I have had a lot of fights. That is one word he would never call me or any other woman. It is one of the most vile words anyone can use towards a woman. So, while it may not be the most relevant story today (his Iraq screw ups concern me more) it does give us a view into his temperment and if he says something like this to his wife in public I can't imagine the words that come out of his mouth in private. posted 04/07/2008 at 16:10:33
Hillary Clinton's Michigan/Florida Strategy: Keep The Dispute Alive
I agree with your solution. It seems reasonable and is a way to actually solve the mess. I think we need to go one further and not allow the SD's from Florida or MI a vote (I believe their votes were also stripped, so this would be no change). Many of them were involved in some way in moving up the primary dates and they should in no way be rewarded with a vote considering the damage that has been done to the party as a result of their actions.
I doubt Hillary will go along with anything that doesn't reinstate the SD's and give her all of the delegates from the Jan. primaries. posted 04/07/2008 at 10:23:36
I doubt Hillary will go along with anything that doesn't reinstate the SD's and give her all of the delegates from the Jan. primaries. posted 04/07/2008 at 10:23:36
Obama: No Need For Foreign Policy Help From V.P.
As opposed to those who might get us killed because they think they have the experience and either don't ask the right questions or don't consider the answers when they aren't what they want to hear. posted 04/07/2008 at 16:00:56
His speech in 2002 opposing the war (I know you don't want to count it) showed his judgement and much of what he said he feared would come to happen, did. That speech was based on his ability to see the world and the issues from a variety of angles. You might believe that Hillary and Obama are the same on Iraq. It's not true. She was in lockstep with Bush and the Republicans all the way to 2005 when it was clear the war wasn't going well and the public sentiment was changing. posted 04/07/2008 at 15:53:22
Bloggers don't get paid by the Obama campaign. A president who has a cigarette on occasion. One who is trying to quit. Oh my God, we can't have that!!!!! A supposed lie about a cigarette = lying about sniper fire. I don't think so. posted 04/07/2008 at 15:44:16
Again, I ask about the judgement. When Hillary voted for Iraq she referenced he years as First Lady implying that she knew more than the rest of us. Apparently not. I want a president who makes the hard choice, not the choice they see best benefits them. So, visiting 80 countries gave her no more insight into the right vote. She voted with Bush and the Republicans, and has never apologized or even said it was the wrong vote. She should have stood with the many Democrats who opposed the war. Then I would have more respect for her experience. Also, lies to beef up experience does nothing for me. T posted 04/07/2008 at 15:41:01
Maybe we can't afford another 4 to 8 years. The last seven haven't gone that well. Let's go for the one who has shown the best judgement on the Iraq War. That is the biggest issue of our time. It is closely tied to the economy. McCain and Clinton are extensions of the past. We need a new approach to governing. That's Obama. posted 04/07/2008 at 15:27:30
He has the judgement the other two lack despite their experience. Let's just vote for the smartes one to run our country. That is easily Obama. posted 04/07/2008 at 15:24:15
I've visited a lot of states. It doesn't mean I know anything much about those states or the people who live there. I have however, lived in TX, the midwest, CA, and Florida and the South. Each is very different from the other. I would have known little about the differences if I hadn't lived there. I'll vote for life experiences in key areas of the world rather than visits that amount to a few days (while valuable they haven't seemed to help Hillary's judgement on important issues in the world, i.e. Iraq, Iran, NAFTA). posted 04/07/2008 at 15:21:34
This is a joke right? Your posts have become just that, lies and jokes. But I can see that lies don't bother you much. By the way Obama was the first African American President of the Harvard Law Review. Valedictorian may be impressive, but President of the Harvard Law Review trumps it. posted 04/07/2008 at 15:15:18
An Issue of Legitimacy and Democracy
Actually, Hillary was in Florida the Sunday before the primary. While there she told the voters that she was going to fight to have their votes counted and that Obama didn't want the votes counted.
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/01/26/clinton_looks_toward_florida.html posted 04/06/2008 at 23:18:59
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/01/26/clinton_looks_toward_florida.html posted 04/06/2008 at 23:18:59
Written by a Clinton supporter. Michigan and Florida held their primaries before 2/5 against the DNC rules. The four early states had some jockying for dates in part because of MI and FL. The SC Rep moved their date forward and were punished by the RNC along with FL and MI and their delegates were cut in half. So, MI and FL were the only two states who advanced their primary dates before Super Tuesday which violated the early primary rule (only IA, NH, NV and SC were permitted to have primaries/caucuses before 2-5). MI and FL knew what they were doing and went ahead anyway. posted 04/06/2008 at 22:49:56
Actually Obama would have run a differnet campaign taking into account the popular vote. Hillary would have run the same chaotic mess of a campaign. posted 04/06/2008 at 21:21:19
No he hasn't. Florida can't do a re-vote because the Florida Dem party , not Obama, determined there were issues with a mail in. They can't do another primary because they are replacing the voting machines and some counties don't have access to the machines. The primary would cost millions and the Florida voters don't want to foot the bill. There has been concern that private funding of primaries isn't legal. The Michigan primary was found to be unconstitutional. Michigan lawmakers left town without setting a date. Obama isn't going to just sign onto any plan just to get a revote done. It does need to fair and legal. posted 04/06/2008 at 21:19:54
Clinton Makes False Claim About Her Iraq Record Vs. Obama's
I saw that as if two Democrats going against one another in the primary is the same as a Republican and a Democrat going against one another in the General Election. Alot can change once McCain actually gets challanged. Besides that in the electoral matchups I've seen Obama beats McCain by a small margin, Hillary doesn't.
Isn't Ed Rendell the one who is alleged to have been involved in the campaign Paul vs. Clinton campaign fraud case? When I saw Senator Casey and Rendell sitting together I saw once again the old way of doing things vs. the new. I am for the change. posted 04/06/2008 at 16:41:39
Isn't Ed Rendell the one who is alleged to have been involved in the campaign Paul vs. Clinton campaign fraud case? When I saw Senator Casey and Rendell sitting together I saw once again the old way of doing things vs. the new. I am for the change. posted 04/06/2008 at 16:41:39
SFreeborn,
You know, about two and a half years ago a very conservative Republicans acquaintance of mine told me that she believes lying in politics started with the Clintons. I am sorry, I don't believe this. I remember Nixon, the Iran Contra Affair, and the lies of both Bushes. After she said that another Republican said the same thing. I don't know if that is a Rush talking point or what. Still, I defended Bill Clinton. While he lied, it was a lie about his personal life and nothing near the Iraq War lies of the Bush Administration. Still, the word out there with some Republicans is that lying in office started with Bill Clinton, how do you think Hillary's lies will play in the fall should she be the nominee. She will not get Republican votes. Most would rather vote for just about anyone than a Clinton. That ought to win an election. posted 04/06/2008 at 16:35:56
You know, about two and a half years ago a very conservative Republicans acquaintance of mine told me that she believes lying in politics started with the Clintons. I am sorry, I don't believe this. I remember Nixon, the Iran Contra Affair, and the lies of both Bushes. After she said that another Republican said the same thing. I don't know if that is a Rush talking point or what. Still, I defended Bill Clinton. While he lied, it was a lie about his personal life and nothing near the Iraq War lies of the Bush Administration. Still, the word out there with some Republicans is that lying in office started with Bill Clinton, how do you think Hillary's lies will play in the fall should she be the nominee. She will not get Republican votes. Most would rather vote for just about anyone than a Clinton. That ought to win an election. posted 04/06/2008 at 16:35:56
You also forgot about Penn meeting with the Columbian president for a pro trade agreement with a dictatorship that has murdered those who try to unionize their labor. Hillary says she is against the agreement, but her chief stategist is in Columbia arranging a deal and the Columbian president doesn't know that he isn't representing the Clinton campaign. posted 04/06/2008 at 16:28:18
You got part of NAFTA gate (Canadian Nafta-gate). How about I was against NAFTA from the beginning (except when I hosted those events as First Lady to try get NAFTA passed). Other than that I was against it - I just didn't share it with anyone. posted 04/06/2008 at 16:25:10
Part of your post is right. Hillary is the pathological liar who can't be trusted. That's the part I agree with. posted 04/06/2008 at 16:23:06
And just to show how fearless she was, she brought her 16 year old daughter, Sinbad and Cheryl Crow. posted 04/06/2008 at 16:11:14
Whats worse is that she uses her implied knowledge from her "years on the other side of Pennsylvania Ave" to justify the vote. So, at the very least her experience as First Lady lead her to the wrong conclusion. I doubt it. There is more to it. She was setting herself up for a presidential run or maybe there is a darker reason and the Clintons and Bushes are closer than any of us want to believe. posted 04/06/2008 at 16:08:42
True. How is it true when she wasn't speaking out about her opposition to the war before Obama no matter what measure she uses. Let's talk reality not fantasy. posted 04/06/2008 at 16:01:00
Hillary Clinton: I Started Criticizing Iraq War Before Obama
He will immediately begin removing our troops. Hillary doesn't have a memory problem she has a truth problem (Bosnia, Nafta?).
Do you get paid to post and mislead people. I'm just wondering because you are spreading the same lies over and over. posted 04/06/2008 at 08:52:49
Do you get paid to post and mislead people. I'm just wondering because you are spreading the same lies over and over. posted 04/06/2008 at 08:52:49
From Obama's website, now why don't you go to the website to actually read about what he will do in Iraq.
Obama will immediately begin to remove our troops from Iraq. He will remove one to two combat brigades each month, and have all of our combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months. Obama will make it clear that we will not build any permanent bases in Iraq. He will keep some troops in Iraq to protect our embassy and diplomats; if al Qaeda attempts to build a base within Iraq, he will keep troops in Iraq or elsewhere in the region to carry out targeted strikes on al Qaeda posted 04/06/2008 at 08:49:50
Obama will immediately begin to remove our troops from Iraq. He will remove one to two combat brigades each month, and have all of our combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months. Obama will make it clear that we will not build any permanent bases in Iraq. He will keep some troops in Iraq to protect our embassy and diplomats; if al Qaeda attempts to build a base within Iraq, he will keep troops in Iraq or elsewhere in the region to carry out targeted strikes on al Qaeda posted 04/06/2008 at 08:49:50
From Obama's website:
Obama will immediately begin to remove our troops from Iraq. He will remove one to two combat brigades each month, and have all of our combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months. Obama will make it clear that we will not build any permanent bases in Iraq. He will keep some troops in Iraq to protect our embassy and diplomats; if al Qaeda attempts to build a base within Iraq, he will keep troops in Iraq or elsewhere in the region to carry out targeted strikes on al Qaeda posted 04/06/2008 at 08:48:58
Obama will immediately begin to remove our troops from Iraq. He will remove one to two combat brigades each month, and have all of our combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months. Obama will make it clear that we will not build any permanent bases in Iraq. He will keep some troops in Iraq to protect our embassy and diplomats; if al Qaeda attempts to build a base within Iraq, he will keep troops in Iraq or elsewhere in the region to carry out targeted strikes on al Qaeda posted 04/06/2008 at 08:48:58
Obama will begin removing the troops. We can't remove all of them immediately. Here is the truth about Obama's position on troop removal from Iraq. You tell me what candidate is going to do it any sooner. None of them know what the exact situation will be on the ground in Iraq on 1-20-09. The best person to get us out of this war is the one who opposed it from the beginning. The one who listened to what others were saying and didn't just march in lockstep with Bush to this war that should never have been fought. He has the wisdom to see what has now come to pass.
From Obama's website:
Obama will immediately begin to remove our troops from Iraq. He will remove one to two combat brigades each month, and have all of our combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months. Obama will make it clear that we will not build any permanent bases in Iraq. He will keep some troops in Iraq to protect our embassy and diplomats; if al Qaeda attempts to build a base within Iraq, he will keep troops in Iraq or elsewhere in the region to carry out targeted strikes on al Qaeda posted 04/06/2008 at 08:48:25
From Obama's website:
Obama will immediately begin to remove our troops from Iraq. He will remove one to two combat brigades each month, and have all of our combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months. Obama will make it clear that we will not build any permanent bases in Iraq. He will keep some troops in Iraq to protect our embassy and diplomats; if al Qaeda attempts to build a base within Iraq, he will keep troops in Iraq or elsewhere in the region to carry out targeted strikes on al Qaeda posted 04/06/2008 at 08:48:25
Hillary Clinton Asks Obama Pledged Delegates In North Dakota To Switch
No. posted 04/05/2008 at 22:17:30
rabprevent,
I too am amazed by nearly everything she says and does these days. But, who looks most presidential in all of this? It isn't Hillary. Obama, doesn't criticize her, he goes after McCain. I don't believe she will be around much longer. It looks like PA will be close, NC will be a blowout and IN will end up with Obama. She won't have enough money to continue to the convention unless she keeps making loans to her campaign. posted 04/05/2008 at 22:16:41
I too am amazed by nearly everything she says and does these days. But, who looks most presidential in all of this? It isn't Hillary. Obama, doesn't criticize her, he goes after McCain. I don't believe she will be around much longer. It looks like PA will be close, NC will be a blowout and IN will end up with Obama. She won't have enough money to continue to the convention unless she keeps making loans to her campaign. posted 04/05/2008 at 22:16:41
Gay Paper: Obama Refuses To Talk With Gay Media
My thought exactly. Having abortion and gay marriage as hot button issues results in a Bush and possibly now a McCain presidency. Look to their histories and their positions on issues rather than creating headlines like this. Obama has taken strong positions on gay rights and has been a strong on choice. His actions back up his beliefs. I believe that the US needs to go a long way on gay rights but that doesn't mean I want to see it as a major issue in the election as it was in 2004. posted 04/05/2008 at 15:20:02
What Did Bill Clinton Do To Get $15M From Ron Burkle?
Let's pick a president based on his bowling score. If you want to do that I guess my husband should be running for president. He is a great bowler. posted 04/05/2008 at 09:21:37
Howard Dean Gets Heated With Clinton Donors At Private Meeting
The Clintons don't care about the voters. If they did they would have been screaming about FL and MI back in the fall when the delegates were stripped. What did Hillary do? She signed a pledge not to campaign in either state and then assured the voters of NH that the only reason she didn't remove her name from the MI ballot was because everyone knew those votes weren't going to count. MI and FL only matter because she needs them to appear she is still in the race. If she is all about the voters can you explain why she supports the superdelegates overtuning the votes of millions of voters? Can you tell me why she has said that they will go after the Obama's pledged delegates (delegates that are pledged because of the votes in the primaries and caucuses)? The only voters that matter to her right now are the ones she needs. The rest of the voters don't matter. Make no mistake, Hillary is no champion of the voters. posted 04/05/2008 at 12:38:06
And what country are those caucus states from? Oh yeah, the United States. But then they don't count because they aren't big states, primary states, states without large African American populations, or basically any state Obama won. We all know that the important states are the ones Hillary won and the rest of us should just find another country to belong to. posted 04/05/2008 at 12:33:11
Howard Dean is getting blamed for this mess, but before he was the chairman of the DNC it was Hillary supporter, Terry McCauliffe. McCauliffe nominated 40 leading Democrats from around the country to form the 'Commission on Presidential Nomination Timing and Scheduling. Nine of the 40 members are current Clinton superdelegates. Additionally, Rep. Dingell and Senator Levin of Michigan sat on the commission. So, the Clinton campaign has been well represented by the committee that set the schedule.
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/03/facts-fairness-and-fraud-histo.php posted 04/05/2008 at 12:25:44
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/03/facts-fairness-and-fraud-histo.php posted 04/05/2008 at 12:25:44
Possibly even more than a wink and a nod.
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/03/facts-fairness-and-fraud-histo.php posted 04/05/2008 at 12:19:08
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/03/facts-fairness-and-fraud-histo.php posted 04/05/2008 at 12:19:08
I copied the wrong link. Here is the link to the article:
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/03/facts-fairness-and-fraud-histo.php posted 04/05/2008 at 12:17:58
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/03/facts-fairness-and-fraud-histo.php posted 04/05/2008 at 12:17:58
This article is clearly writen by a Clinton supporter. It blames Howard Dean and the Republicans for the mess. Make no mistake, the early dates weren't shoved down the throats of the Dems. They were involved in those decisions. Hillary's campaign was well represented in the committee that voted to strip the delegates (Ickes was a member of the committee which set the primary schedule). According to Talking Points Memo, "in March of 2007 the Florida House voted 118-0 to move their date in violation of the rules. The democrats of the state are boastful and defiant in their statements. They were even warned by the former leader of the Florida Democratic Party that they were delusional to think the DNC would budge on its rules. The Florida Senate affirmed the House by voting 37-2 in favor of spitting in the DNC's eye. Five days after the DNC ruled against Florida, on August 30, 2007, the Michigan House voted 57-34 to move their date, followed shortly thereafter by a vote in their Senate that went 34-0, see same link as the house. So then in September, Hillary, Obama and some of the others sign a pledge to honor the rules. In October she re-affirms her intent to honor the pledge when responding to a New Hampshire Public Radio caller. .
So if you would like to read the other side of the story, click on this:
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/profile/tpartier posted 04/05/2008 at 12:13:46
So if you would like to read the other side of the story, click on this:
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/profile/tpartier posted 04/05/2008 at 12:13:46
Then we'd be back to only the big states matter. IA and NH have a traditional role in the early primaries that the DNC honors. SC has had an early primary for the last two elections. It secured the early primary to give representation from a Southern state with a large African American population. Nevada secured the early primary date because of the significant Latino population and because of the labor unions.
As a democrat coming from a small red state, I appreciate the primary schedule. With the electoral college in the general election, my vote doesn't count. The Dem candidates during the general election don't spend a lot of time in red states. The primary schedule makes the candidates address the issues important to each of the states. We get to know them better since the voters, not the candidates dictate the agenda. We make them talk about labor, Nafta, healthcare, racial issues, education, poverty. If there were one primary date, they would give their stump speeches and there would be little time for vetting what they say. If there were one primary date, the large states would get to know the candidate, the small states would be left behind. If there were one primary date, the candidate with the most name recognition would likely be the nominee since none of us would really get the chance to know the other candidates. Maybe the primary schedule as it is isn't such a bad thing. posted 04/05/2008 at 11:45:27
As a democrat coming from a small red state, I appreciate the primary schedule. With the electoral college in the general election, my vote doesn't count. The Dem candidates during the general election don't spend a lot of time in red states. The primary schedule makes the candidates address the issues important to each of the states. We get to know them better since the voters, not the candidates dictate the agenda. We make them talk about labor, Nafta, healthcare, racial issues, education, poverty. If there were one primary date, they would give their stump speeches and there would be little time for vetting what they say. If there were one primary date, the large states would get to know the candidate, the small states would be left behind. If there were one primary date, the candidate with the most name recognition would likely be the nominee since none of us would really get the chance to know the other candidates. Maybe the primary schedule as it is isn't such a bad thing. posted 04/05/2008 at 11:45:27
How about they cut the delegates in half as they did with the Republican states that moved ahead in the primary calendar?. Then they split Michigan 50/50 since Hillary was the only one on the ballot (and a MI court has ruled that counting it as a Hillary win is Unconstitutional) Then they seat FL according to the vote January. The superdelegates from both states have no vote since they were a part of what created this whole mess. This seems like a fair solution since both candidates agreed that MI and FL wouldn't count, and only one candidate went back on the rules established by the DNC. By doing this, neither campaign is helped or harmed to any significant degree. Then the voters from MI and FL need to educate themselves on what really happened in their states and hold accountable the govenors, representatives, senators, etc. responsible for this. posted 04/05/2008 at 11:20:46
He would have said nothing, but the Clintons and their surrogates dumped on him. He defended himself against their attacks. As usual some of you supporters think that the Clintons should be able to say whatever they want and then when there is a response they are the ones to attack the Clintons. It doesn't work that way. When you open the door you should be ready for a response. When the response comes, don't become the victim. posted 04/05/2008 at 11:08:31
Clinton Rationale for Electability Doesn't Hold Water: History Proves the Ability to Win a State Primary Is Unrelated to General Election Success
So, your stand is that Florida and MI votes were thwarted (even though Obama had nothing to do with the situation), but you are perfectly fine with a result where Hillary is given the nomination even without winning, the popular vote, the pledged delegates or the most states. The votes of FL and MI, who's legislators and state party broke the rules end up being the only ones who matter. FL and MI need to make their state party and their legislators pay for the screw up. They knew they were breakiing the rules and they played chicken with the DNC. Also for those of you who believe the Rep in Fl shoved the early primary date down the throat of the Dems, that isn't true. The Dems went along with it in both states. Check this link of the FL Dem minority leader, Steven Geller. He ought to be the first one Florida gets rid of.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/4/1/153956/6000/791/488388 posted 04/02/2008 at 08:16:51
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/4/1/153956/6000/791/488388 posted 04/02/2008 at 08:16:51
Obama's lead isn't just from caucus states - He won:
SC, TX (yes TX - he has more delegates), WI, IL, CT, DE, GA, MS, LA, UT, AL, MO (a bellweather state just like OH), D.C., VA, MD, and VT.
Hillary supporters keep trying to drive it home that small states, caucus states, red states, states with large numbers of African American voters, and states that voted in Feb. after Super Tuesday don't matter. She has approached this entire campaign with a poor plan. She had no 50 state strategy and was beat because she went up against a candidate that did. If she has lost caucus states it's because she doesn't have the grassroots mobilization that Obama does. Those same people who will mobilize in November. Politics is changing. Get used to the idea that all states matter and the voters matter. posted 04/02/2008 at 08:03:30
SC, TX (yes TX - he has more delegates), WI, IL, CT, DE, GA, MS, LA, UT, AL, MO (a bellweather state just like OH), D.C., VA, MD, and VT.
Hillary supporters keep trying to drive it home that small states, caucus states, red states, states with large numbers of African American voters, and states that voted in Feb. after Super Tuesday don't matter. She has approached this entire campaign with a poor plan. She had no 50 state strategy and was beat because she went up against a candidate that did. If she has lost caucus states it's because she doesn't have the grassroots mobilization that Obama does. Those same people who will mobilize in November. Politics is changing. Get used to the idea that all states matter and the voters matter. posted 04/02/2008 at 08:03:30
If the SD's were to overturn the vote of the people with Obama leading in state's won, delegates and popular vote (which he will be), do you really think the African American community would fall in line and vote for Hillary in November? It doesn't matter what happened in the 90's, and how much they liked Bill then. There is no way that the AA community or the young voters (or the die hard Obama supporters) will forgive the SD's and the DNC if they don't go with the candidate who wins, which will be Obama. For those Hillary supporters who like to talk about voter disinfranchisement, can't you see how many voters would be disenfranchised by that move? It would be as if the primaries and caucuses didn't matter at all. Hillary has not problem disinfranchising voters when it suits her needs. posted 04/02/2008 at 07:44:07
Clinton Says Obama Wants to Stop Votes
you are the one spewing the bs. posted 04/01/2008 at 09:56:06
If Hillary was so concerned about the voters from all of the states why didn't she have a 50 state strategy? Obama was the one determined to campaign in every state. Hillary and her campaign were shocked to find out she needed to continue to campaign after Super Tuesday. posted 04/01/2008 at 09:52:23
How terrible to call her misstatements about Nafta and Bosnia lies. How dare Obama supporters call it what it is. Those are just personal attacks on poor Hillary who mispoke about sniper fire because she was so tired. posted 04/01/2008 at 09:47:42
You forgot caucus voters and voters from small states. posted 04/01/2008 at 09:44:17
There's a difference between is he a Muslim - I'll take him at his word and oh no there is nothing to indicate that - as far as I know and Senator Clinton can run as long as she wants. One has a wink the other doesn't.
Members of the Democratic party on both sides can say what they like. They are entittled to their opinion whether Hillary's continued run with little chance of winning helps or hurts the Dems in the fall. I happen to believe that Bill and Hillary's comments that are favorable to McCain while tearing apart Obama will come back to haunt the Dems in the fall. The remarks may have little effect, but who knows at this point. What the comments do indicate me is that this is a desperate campaign where Hillary will prop up McCain for her own benefit. posted 04/01/2008 at 09:39:46
Members of the Democratic party on both sides can say what they like. They are entittled to their opinion whether Hillary's continued run with little chance of winning helps or hurts the Dems in the fall. I happen to believe that Bill and Hillary's comments that are favorable to McCain while tearing apart Obama will come back to haunt the Dems in the fall. The remarks may have little effect, but who knows at this point. What the comments do indicate me is that this is a desperate campaign where Hillary will prop up McCain for her own benefit. posted 04/01/2008 at 09:39:46
Not Until the Fat Lady Sings
Please go to www.cnn.com and take a real look at the results. The Wyoming caucus results were 61% Obama and 38% Clinton. You would think that Obama might have cashed in on delegates in Wyoming, but despite the getting 23% more of the votes the delegates were split 7 to 5. So, you say that Obama picked up more delegates in WY than Hillary picked up when she won TX, OH and RI. That isn't true. Hillary got 9 more delegates in Ohio, 4 more in TX primary, and 5 more in RI. That is a difference of 18. Obama picked up 3 more delegates in VT (despite a 20 pt. win, it was just 3 delegates). IN MS Obama won 61% to 37% and the delegates went 19 to 14. Obama won the TX caucuses on Saturday and got 7 more delegates than Hillary (that means he netted 3 more delegates in TX and actually won Texas). Then Obama got a 10 more of the unapportioned delegates a few weeks ago in Iowa.
It is clear from this that Clinton has also benefitted from the proportional assignment of delegates. Hillary lost the race because she didn't have a 50 state strategy or a stategy that went past Super Tuesday. Your talking points are just that, talking points. There is no truth to them. Small states aren't deciding this race, they are a part of this race, as they should be. posted 04/01/2008 at 06:37:52
It is clear from this that Clinton has also benefitted from the proportional assignment of delegates. Hillary lost the race because she didn't have a 50 state strategy or a stategy that went past Super Tuesday. Your talking points are just that, talking points. There is no truth to them. Small states aren't deciding this race, they are a part of this race, as they should be. posted 04/01/2008 at 06:37:52
Two Senior Advisors: We'll Tell Hillary To Resign If She Loses Indiana
120,000+ Republican's voted for Hillary after Rush encouraged them to vote for her. Those same Republicans couldn't participate in the caucus process which was closed to those who weren't registered Democrats. So, what really happened is the caucus corrected the issue caused by Rush. In the end Obama won. I wonder why this is the first year I've heard all of the complaints about the caucus system. It was fine when it helped Bill get the nomination. Now the Clintons don't like it. If it was so unfair and undemocratic they should have spoken up back in '92. Then, however, the caucuses got him the nomination so there were no complaints.
If you can't deal with the system as it is do something about it. It's the system that's been in place for years and worked well until it didn't work for your candidate. posted 03/31/2008 at 20:29:45
If you can't deal with the system as it is do something about it. It's the system that's been in place for years and worked well until it didn't work for your candidate. posted 03/31/2008 at 20:29:45
Could the Republicans Pick the Democratic Nominee? -- The Untold Story of How the GOP Rigged Florida and Michigan
NH, Iowa and SC were the designated early states, so give us the link that they moved up their dates. It was the SC Republican primary that moved to 1-19. The Dem primary remained the same. The SC Rep primary was scheduled for 2-2, but moved it up WHEN Florida moved the primary date to 1-29. The GOP penalized SC, FL, and MI by cutting their delegates in half. The NV Republicans also moved their primary date ahead because the NV Dems had been granted early status.
Check this link for an explaination of the primary calendar and the issues caused by the movement of the dates by so many states.
As far as MI & FL go, you will never be convinced that Hillary is just using them for her own good. She didn't care that the delegates were stripped until she needed them. Reps from her campaign voted to strip the delegates. If she were really concerned about MI and FL she would have been screaming about them last fall instead of now. It is up to the DNC to sort out that mess and it isn't Obama's fault that it happened. No matter how many times Hillary and her supporters say it is his fault, it doesn't make it true. The delegates will likely be seated, but it does have to be fair to both candidates, not just a gift to Hillary because she needs the delegates to make her case that she is electable. posted 04/01/2008 at 11:09:20
Check this link for an explaination of the primary calendar and the issues caused by the movement of the dates by so many states.
As far as MI & FL go, you will never be convinced that Hillary is just using them for her own good. She didn't care that the delegates were stripped until she needed them. Reps from her campaign voted to strip the delegates. If she were really concerned about MI and FL she would have been screaming about them last fall instead of now. It is up to the DNC to sort out that mess and it isn't Obama's fault that it happened. No matter how many times Hillary and her supporters say it is his fault, it doesn't make it true. The delegates will likely be seated, but it does have to be fair to both candidates, not just a gift to Hillary because she needs the delegates to make her case that she is electable. posted 04/01/2008 at 11:09:20
Cash Strapped Clinton Fails To Pay Bills
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/16/nyregion/16vote.html?_r=1&oref=slogin)
Billrott,
It was in the papers in Feb, then just disappeared. Seems some African American precincts in NY didn't cast one vote for Obama. posted 03/31/2008 at 09:49:55
Billrott,
It was in the papers in Feb, then just disappeared. Seems some African American precincts in NY didn't cast one vote for Obama. posted 03/31/2008 at 09:49:55
It's easy for you to say, the campaign doesn't owe you money. posted 03/31/2008 at 08:28:09
$25,000 is chump change to someone who is rich, but to most small companies, $25,000 is a huge amount of money. Even the companies that aren't owed what you might consider a lot of money, need it pay their own bills. Now we hear that the campaign isn't returning their calls or emails. These are small businesses. Is this how we expect a presidential campaign to treat a small business? She may not be out to screw the little guy, but she needs to pay her bills so that isn't what she ends up doing. It's sad that someone with Hillary's name recognition, the support of the DNC, and the backing of the party has so mismanged her campaign that she turned inevitability into a complete mess. Her stategy to get elected didn't go beyond Super Tuesday and certainly didn't include a challenge from any of the candidates. Well, t he voters thought differently and now this is the campaign she either needs to deal with or get out of.
The average Obama donor has donated about $109 to his campaign. What you are seeing is well over a million inspired people who aren't desperate, just willing to support their candidate. This is called grassroots. Times are changing and the change is coming from the bottom up. posted 03/31/2008 at 08:25:47
The average Obama donor has donated about $109 to his campaign. What you are seeing is well over a million inspired people who aren't desperate, just willing to support their candidate. This is called grassroots. Times are changing and the change is coming from the bottom up. posted 03/31/2008 at 08:25:47
Clinton Vows To Stay In Race Until Convention
That was in Texas not all of the states. The other states are apportioned by congressional districts. Nice try. posted 03/30/2008 at 08:30:26
Clinton Campaign Manager Was Director For Failed Subprime Lender
What I would like to know more is how the policies of the Clinton years contributed to the subprime problem. I am no economist and don't claim to be one, but from watching the CNN show Mortgate Meltdown, this was created by Dems and Reps alike and Bill had a hand in the policies that created the predatory lending. That would be a story I would like to hear. The dot com bubble, gave way to the bubble in the housing market. Hillary wants to bring back Alan Greenspan, but some economists say he shares blame in the subprime situation. It would just be nice to know the story and connect the dots. If t here is nothing there, I would like to know that too. posted 03/30/2008 at 08:45:24
Carville Unloads: Richardson Misled, Promised He'd Back Hillary
No kidding! The Clinton campaign needs to realize that this is just the type of politics we are all sick of. posted 03/28/2008 at 09:14:21
Chris Dodd: This Race Must End
No, he encouraged voter fraud. It's a felony in Ohio to change parties (they take an oath in order to make the change) to mess with the other parties primary. posted 03/27/2008 at 20:56:34
It's not a dead heat. She is 150 delegates behind. The winner is Obama. posted 03/27/2008 at 20:53:34
The media has called it razor thin and made people believe it is closer than it is. Obama won in Feb. He has gained delegates in March despite it being a difficult month for him He is ahead in the polls and her negatives arre so high many dems won't vote for her anymore. She already had a huge problem with Rep (not the Rush Rep who votef for her to mess with OH and TX) but true Rep; who haven't liked the Clintons for years.
It's over. Do the math. She can't win. posted 03/27/2008 at 20:47:15
It's over. Do the math. She can't win. posted 03/27/2008 at 20:47:15
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