May 17, 2008
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nachtengel
libertarian, deist
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Hillary Clinton Tax Returns: See Full Details
I was saying this here last night. I can't imagine how any of these people will feel to know how much money was made, without wondering where it all came from.
Blue Collar workers have a certain sense of a fairplay mentality, and they will likely start to think that all the "nonsense" anti Hillary people spit out, might actually have merit, or else how did they make all that money.
I can tell you if the candidate I chose came out with that level of earnings, I would definitely, quietly in the back of my head start to think "well... these people will take car of their own, so I don't need to contribute." posted 04/05/2008 at 13:31:46
Blue Collar workers have a certain sense of a fairplay mentality, and they will likely start to think that all the "nonsense" anti Hillary people spit out, might actually have merit, or else how did they make all that money.
I can tell you if the candidate I chose came out with that level of earnings, I would definitely, quietly in the back of my head start to think "well... these people will take car of their own, so I don't need to contribute." posted 04/05/2008 at 13:31:46
When your speeches are thing like telling United Arab Emirates officials on how to sidestep, and address, growing U.S. concerns over the acquisition of the security contract for America's ports, you get paid $750,000 a pop.
And for that you also get a new $165 million library, funded in part by gifts of $1 million or more each from the Saudi royal family and three Saudi businessmen. The governments of Dubai, Kuwait, and Qatar and the deputy prime minister of Lebanon, all also appear to have donated $1 million or more for the archive and museum. posted 04/05/2008 at 13:12:38
And for that you also get a new $165 million library, funded in part by gifts of $1 million or more each from the Saudi royal family and three Saudi businessmen. The governments of Dubai, Kuwait, and Qatar and the deputy prime minister of Lebanon, all also appear to have donated $1 million or more for the archive and museum. posted 04/05/2008 at 13:12:38
yes and IBM too. But you digress. posted 04/05/2008 at 00:38:09
yes Robertson, was thinking or Oral Roberts and Pat Robertson...
Obama does not and did not have direct investment partnerships with Rezco. Nor is the actually primary account owner of over dozens of haneous deals aginst US citizens.
You are comparing a High School level gaff, with serious hard abuse of funds and power. You are comparing rasins to tanks not apples to apples. posted 04/05/2008 at 00:36:02
Obama does not and did not have direct investment partnerships with Rezco. Nor is the actually primary account owner of over dozens of haneous deals aginst US citizens.
You are comparing a High School level gaff, with serious hard abuse of funds and power. You are comparing rasins to tanks not apples to apples. posted 04/05/2008 at 00:36:02
Actually, the Clinton's had money in DeBeers blood diamond mines (with Pat Roberts), so yes, those people actually did have guns to their heads (not to mention that is the other preferred currency of most of the current terrorist orgs) . posted 04/05/2008 at 00:20:13
I'm very curious to see how fast her contributions fall thru the floor. I can tell you for sure, it would take a lot for me to muster up the coins for any candidate, Obama included, that has made that kind of money (...and that is just the reported cash flow which even Blue Collar people understand) posted 04/05/2008 at 00:17:40
So in your eyes, if a man makes money from the blood and suffering of others, you are ok with this.
So the fact that Bill Clinton"s new $165 million library here was funded in part by gifts of $1 million or more each from the Saudi royal family and three Saudi businessmen, and the he governments of Dubai, Kuwait, and Qatar and the deputy prime minister of Lebanon all also appear to have donated $1 million or more for the archive and museum. That's ok with you.
The fact that Bill Clinton was paid $750,000 to advise top United Arab Emirates officials on how to sidestep and address growing U.S. concerns over the acquisition of the security contract for America's ports. That is ok with you?
The fact that Hillary Clinton's Senior Adviser Huma Abedin has direct connections to the founders and financiers of Al-Qaeda (Abdullah Omar Naseef). That is ok with you.
What kind of company must *you* keep to think these are in anyway minutely ok. i think that alone speaks volumes of your opinion. posted 04/05/2008 at 00:06:57
So the fact that Bill Clinton"s new $165 million library here was funded in part by gifts of $1 million or more each from the Saudi royal family and three Saudi businessmen, and the he governments of Dubai, Kuwait, and Qatar and the deputy prime minister of Lebanon all also appear to have donated $1 million or more for the archive and museum. That's ok with you.
The fact that Bill Clinton was paid $750,000 to advise top United Arab Emirates officials on how to sidestep and address growing U.S. concerns over the acquisition of the security contract for America's ports. That is ok with you?
The fact that Hillary Clinton's Senior Adviser Huma Abedin has direct connections to the founders and financiers of Al-Qaeda (Abdullah Omar Naseef). That is ok with you.
What kind of company must *you* keep to think these are in anyway minutely ok. i think that alone speaks volumes of your opinion. posted 04/05/2008 at 00:06:57
That's kinda funny. Barry. Smart move dropping that one. posted 04/04/2008 at 22:37:34
For starters, she has 360 earmarks, worth a combined $2.2 billion from 2002 to 2006, in military spending on projects not requested by the Pentagon. posted 04/04/2008 at 22:35:03
Why do you harp on the Clinton's. It has nothing to do with them.
If I go to buy a car, and the salesman pitches one car more then another, and the other car I want to buy clearly has better specifications across the board, better price, quality, is ecologically sound, and wins all the awards, i am going to want to understand better what that salesman's incentive is.
His incentive is he gets higher kickbacks. His incentive is he makes a higher profit for the dealership. His incentive is not that he cares in the least what my or the countries needs are. posted 04/04/2008 at 22:32:53
If I go to buy a car, and the salesman pitches one car more then another, and the other car I want to buy clearly has better specifications across the board, better price, quality, is ecologically sound, and wins all the awards, i am going to want to understand better what that salesman's incentive is.
His incentive is he gets higher kickbacks. His incentive is he makes a higher profit for the dealership. His incentive is not that he cares in the least what my or the countries needs are. posted 04/04/2008 at 22:32:53
When you understand what Clinton's consider "charity", you will understand how the wealthy hide their money.
Obama gave in blood, sweat, and perhaps even tears. That counts far more in the good book. posted 04/04/2008 at 22:18:58
Obama gave in blood, sweat, and perhaps even tears. That counts far more in the good book. posted 04/04/2008 at 22:18:58
The Clintons have in Carlyle as well.
Making money is not the issue. A complete lack of transparency is. And when you have your hands in money that directly hurts a large part of the US population, in a myriad of ways, you owe that population transparency. posted 04/04/2008 at 22:13:56
Making money is not the issue. A complete lack of transparency is. And when you have your hands in money that directly hurts a large part of the US population, in a myriad of ways, you owe that population transparency. posted 04/04/2008 at 22:13:56
At this point in that race, anyone who did a fair amount of research, could find out what we now know by the Clinton's releasing their tax reports. This release was likely to come by force like with her White House records, so she held out as long as possible, ie very late in th campaign, and late enough for the blue color in PA not to be able to digest, and well late for OH/TX.
My big deal was because they were not releasing them when it had any pertinence to the election. At this point it's to little to late.
I understand it may sound like we are always asking for more, but we need to know these things about all candidates, Obama included. posted 04/04/2008 at 22:09:23
My big deal was because they were not releasing them when it had any pertinence to the election. At this point it's to little to late.
I understand it may sound like we are always asking for more, but we need to know these things about all candidates, Obama included. posted 04/04/2008 at 22:09:23
What this doesn't show is the incredible capital that was used to pay for various Clinton related projects. Like the Ex President"s new $165 million library was funded in part by gifts of $1 million or more each from the Saudi royal family and three Saudi businessmen. The governments of Dubai, Kuwait, and Qatar and the deputy prime minister of Lebanon all also appear to have donated $1 million or more for the archive and museum.
Vinod Gupta, the CEO of InfoUSA, has directed more than $3 million to political campaigns and projects connected with Former President Clinton and Senator Clinton. Mr. InfoUSA, Inc. compiled and sold lists that disclosed the names of elderly men and women who would be likely to respond to unscrupulous scams. The lists left no doubt about the vulnerability of the elderly targets.
These are all projects which the Clinton's had 3rd parties sink large sums of money into, and that Clinton's are co or sole proprietors of and the money won't show up on their taxes cus of "Corp" protection.
What would be useful to see is what Corporation and boards they are key or primary stakeholders in. Otherwise their tax returns are useless. posted 04/04/2008 at 21:45:35
Vinod Gupta, the CEO of InfoUSA, has directed more than $3 million to political campaigns and projects connected with Former President Clinton and Senator Clinton. Mr. InfoUSA, Inc. compiled and sold lists that disclosed the names of elderly men and women who would be likely to respond to unscrupulous scams. The lists left no doubt about the vulnerability of the elderly targets.
These are all projects which the Clinton's had 3rd parties sink large sums of money into, and that Clinton's are co or sole proprietors of and the money won't show up on their taxes cus of "Corp" protection.
What would be useful to see is what Corporation and boards they are key or primary stakeholders in. Otherwise their tax returns are useless. posted 04/04/2008 at 21:45:35
Clinton Compares Herself To Rocky Balboa: We "Have A Lot In Common"
The problem isn't the Race, the problem *is Race.
Hillary is no out saying, I'm like Rocky, I'm fighting the big mean bad black guy. imagine the big mean black guy beating up on the white person. wink wink nudge nudge.
The racist subtext to her and all of her supporters is getting quite insane these days. While not unexpected, she clearly knows it's getting to the people it is intended in PA.
The good news is racist would vote Republican before they would vote for Obama, so nothing lost, nothing gained either way. But this is the core of the issue of this race.... The Clinton's prey on the poor and uneducated, with Whitewater till now, and they play to the black population when they need their vote, and to the white racist when they need that vote like now. It's sad really, and in 2008 it's time for them to be called out and go away. posted 04/01/2008 at 16:39:20
Hillary is no out saying, I'm like Rocky, I'm fighting the big mean bad black guy. imagine the big mean black guy beating up on the white person. wink wink nudge nudge.
The racist subtext to her and all of her supporters is getting quite insane these days. While not unexpected, she clearly knows it's getting to the people it is intended in PA.
The good news is racist would vote Republican before they would vote for Obama, so nothing lost, nothing gained either way. But this is the core of the issue of this race.... The Clinton's prey on the poor and uneducated, with Whitewater till now, and they play to the black population when they need their vote, and to the white racist when they need that vote like now. It's sad really, and in 2008 it's time for them to be called out and go away. posted 04/01/2008 at 16:39:20
Wow, I guess that is her way of saying, I'm fighting the big mean bad black guy. imagine the big mean black guy beating up on the white person. wink wink nudge nudge.
The racist subtext to her and all of her supporters is getting quite insane these days. While not unexpected, she clearly knows it's getting to the people it is intended in PA.
The good news is rasist would vote Replican before they would vote for Obama, so nothing lost, nothing gained either way, but it is sad to see an American politician in 2008 playing this game. posted 04/01/2008 at 15:58:58
The racist subtext to her and all of her supporters is getting quite insane these days. While not unexpected, she clearly knows it's getting to the people it is intended in PA.
The good news is rasist would vote Replican before they would vote for Obama, so nothing lost, nothing gained either way, but it is sad to see an American politician in 2008 playing this game. posted 04/01/2008 at 15:58:58
Clinton's Convention Strategy In Doubt
Come on people, Hillary has no intention of winning at this game. All this is pure fluff, showmanship, and doesn't matter.
The Clinton's are going to win this like they normally do, by buying off one more then needed of the seats at the DNC. Ickes is on the phone as we speak offering the kitchen sink.The Republicans will pull every stop to get her in too, including lending the money, and blackmailing everyone on the DNC committee into a pulp.
It so obvious Obama is the man, but Hillary has that smile on her face always that lets you know it's all decided already.
If you really really want Obama people, you are going to have to get out of the house and do something extraordinary, that will turn racist PA into gold hearted people, who will put down their fear and hate, and actually do something right for their country. posted 04/01/2008 at 00:39:24
The Clinton's are going to win this like they normally do, by buying off one more then needed of the seats at the DNC. Ickes is on the phone as we speak offering the kitchen sink.The Republicans will pull every stop to get her in too, including lending the money, and blackmailing everyone on the DNC committee into a pulp.
It so obvious Obama is the man, but Hillary has that smile on her face always that lets you know it's all decided already.
If you really really want Obama people, you are going to have to get out of the house and do something extraordinary, that will turn racist PA into gold hearted people, who will put down their fear and hate, and actually do something right for their country. posted 04/01/2008 at 00:39:24
Madonna In Vanity Fair: Disses New York In Profanity-Laced Interview
Why is Madonna still talking. Like my home NYC, she is tired and beyond all repair.
Yes NYC is dead, but not dead the right way. Hopefully this mortgage crisis will hit the 40,000 new condos sprouting up, and kill the city properly.
You see that sort of death is the reason NYC was hip in the 50's and again in 70's. The 80's... well it was kinda over by the time Madonna rolled up, but then she stole the 90's from the club scene, again well after the scene was over.
Madge is just angry about NYC because she doesn't have anyone to steal ideas from and make profit off of as her own. The lady, and i use that term loosely, never had an idea of her own since day she crawled out of the gutter. posted 03/31/2008 at 21:54:42
Yes NYC is dead, but not dead the right way. Hopefully this mortgage crisis will hit the 40,000 new condos sprouting up, and kill the city properly.
You see that sort of death is the reason NYC was hip in the 50's and again in 70's. The 80's... well it was kinda over by the time Madonna rolled up, but then she stole the 90's from the club scene, again well after the scene was over.
Madge is just angry about NYC because she doesn't have anyone to steal ideas from and make profit off of as her own. The lady, and i use that term loosely, never had an idea of her own since day she crawled out of the gutter. posted 03/31/2008 at 21:54:42
Clinton Vows To Stay In Race Until Convention
BubbaC33, Obama is not a victim, but we need to move past yesteryear, and the mentality of divide and conquer, and past all candidates who lie about every single thing, on a daily basis (and whether or not anyone one likes it, Hillary does fall into this category), and start putting our money down on the big fight, and let Obama train to beat McCain.
Dems need to get their serious strategy together NOW, and it has been good and even necessary sparing for Obama, no question, but he has gotten all he can out of Hillary, and now it's time for her to let go. posted 03/30/2008 at 03:15:37
Dems need to get their serious strategy together NOW, and it has been good and even necessary sparing for Obama, no question, but he has gotten all he can out of Hillary, and now it's time for her to let go. posted 03/30/2008 at 03:15:37
Clinton Campaign Manager Was Director For Failed Subprime Lender
Nothing new for Hillary, she like to keep likes minded company...
As an attorney in private practice, Hillary played an important role in establishing and running the Real Estate venture known as Whitewater. The company sold lots, mainly to elderly retirees and middle-class families. "Buyers" were unknowingly given purchase agreements, instead of deeds, which allowed the Clintons to claim payments made by the purchaser shall be considered as rent for the use of the premises, if they missed or were late on one single payment. posted 03/30/2008 at 02:48:56
As an attorney in private practice, Hillary played an important role in establishing and running the Real Estate venture known as Whitewater. The company sold lots, mainly to elderly retirees and middle-class families. "Buyers" were unknowingly given purchase agreements, instead of deeds, which allowed the Clintons to claim payments made by the purchaser shall be considered as rent for the use of the premises, if they missed or were late on one single payment. posted 03/30/2008 at 02:48:56
Nothing new for Hillary, she like to keep like minded company...
As an attorney in private practice, Hillary played an important role in establishing and running the Real Estate venture known as Whitewater. The company sold lots, mainly to elderly retirees and middle-class families. "Buyers" were unknowingly given purchase agreements, instead of deeds, which allowed the Clintons to claim payments made by the purchaser shall be considered as rent for the use of the premises, if they missed or were late on one single payment. posted 03/30/2008 at 02:48:37
As an attorney in private practice, Hillary played an important role in establishing and running the Real Estate venture known as Whitewater. The company sold lots, mainly to elderly retirees and middle-class families. "Buyers" were unknowingly given purchase agreements, instead of deeds, which allowed the Clintons to claim payments made by the purchaser shall be considered as rent for the use of the premises, if they missed or were late on one single payment. posted 03/30/2008 at 02:48:37
Should Obama Drop Out of the Race?
The problem isn't the Race, the problem *is Race.
Hillary is no out saying, I'm like Rocky, I'm fighting the big mean bad black guy. imagine the big mean black guy beating up on the white person. wink wink nudge nudge.
The racist subtext to her and all of her supporters is getting quite insane these days. While not unexpected, she clearly knows it's getting to the people it is intended in PA.
The good news is racist would vote Republican before they would vote for Obama, so nothing lost, nothing gained either way. But this is the core of the issue of this race.... The Clinton's prey on the poor and uneducated, with Whitewater till now, and they play to the black population when they need their vote, and to the white racist when they need that vote like now. It's sad really, and in 2008 it's time for them to be called out and go away. posted 04/01/2008 at 16:05:54
Hillary is no out saying, I'm like Rocky, I'm fighting the big mean bad black guy. imagine the big mean black guy beating up on the white person. wink wink nudge nudge.
The racist subtext to her and all of her supporters is getting quite insane these days. While not unexpected, she clearly knows it's getting to the people it is intended in PA.
The good news is racist would vote Republican before they would vote for Obama, so nothing lost, nothing gained either way. But this is the core of the issue of this race.... The Clinton's prey on the poor and uneducated, with Whitewater till now, and they play to the black population when they need their vote, and to the white racist when they need that vote like now. It's sad really, and in 2008 it's time for them to be called out and go away. posted 04/01/2008 at 16:05:54
Democrats Fear Tight Obama-Clinton Finish Could Damage Party's Chances
If you look at the end game perspective, Hillary is taking serious money from an incredible amount of Military, Pharmaceutical and Wall Street/Real Estate companies. She is making hand over fist from inside America, while Bill is making hundreds of millions being in bed with Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Oman and others advising them on how to get around US regulations. She is paying people to keep herself wealthy and in control, and they are paying people for her.
Obama on the other hand is playing well against a stacked deck here, and to be realistic, contributing what little money he has earned from the people like me and his business backing, is the choice of his people. I donate, and I say do what you got to do to even the odds against one of the most corrupt power couples in Washington. It's my money, and I want to get the job done. posted 03/30/2008 at 03:52:49
Obama on the other hand is playing well against a stacked deck here, and to be realistic, contributing what little money he has earned from the people like me and his business backing, is the choice of his people. I donate, and I say do what you got to do to even the odds against one of the most corrupt power couples in Washington. It's my money, and I want to get the job done. posted 03/30/2008 at 03:52:49
Hillary And Bill: We Aren't Going Anywhere
BUMBLE BEEEEEEE posted 04/01/2008 at 00:14:41
Clinton, Obama: We Will Unite
I'm a white male Libertarian with my head in check with how much either side can really do, both good and bad.
I will NOT in any way vote for any Clinton, period. Gore... yes, another qualified Female candidate...yes. But a Clinton never, they are so deeply entrenched in savage corruption and an all out assault against America and it's people. They are not singularly in bed with our enemies, they are in bed with everyone, or more specifically anyone who is in Vogue and will cut them a check.
I wouldn't vote for McCain either, simply because he is clearly a puppet, or even a scarecrow, but if he has an incredible veep, or aligned him self with heavy hitting PROVEN financial wizards, I would seriously consider voting Republican (I can't believe I am even thinking this...) if I was to vote at all in November. posted 03/28/2008 at 14:54:39
I will NOT in any way vote for any Clinton, period. Gore... yes, another qualified Female candidate...yes. But a Clinton never, they are so deeply entrenched in savage corruption and an all out assault against America and it's people. They are not singularly in bed with our enemies, they are in bed with everyone, or more specifically anyone who is in Vogue and will cut them a check.
I wouldn't vote for McCain either, simply because he is clearly a puppet, or even a scarecrow, but if he has an incredible veep, or aligned him self with heavy hitting PROVEN financial wizards, I would seriously consider voting Republican (I can't believe I am even thinking this...) if I was to vote at all in November. posted 03/28/2008 at 14:54:39
Bill Clinton To Obama Campaign: "Let's Just Saddle Up And Have An Argument"
The reality of Bill Clinton is a case of always using the standard Kansas City Shuffle. Partly because fighting, and more specifically bickering, will get you air time, lots of air time, which is what the Clintons love, good, bad or ugly.
The Clintons will also use this attention, and this is where the shuffle comes in, to do or cover up all kinds of shady back door deals, and the one thing you can count on is that something major is on it's way, and Bill is doing all he can to distract people right now.... Whether it is simply Hillary's embellishment about any role she had in Bosnia, or some other more insanely damaging situation not aired yet, you can bet Bill will only get louder. posted 03/26/2008 at 20:04:37
The Clintons will also use this attention, and this is where the shuffle comes in, to do or cover up all kinds of shady back door deals, and the one thing you can count on is that something major is on it's way, and Bill is doing all he can to distract people right now.... Whether it is simply Hillary's embellishment about any role she had in Bosnia, or some other more insanely damaging situation not aired yet, you can bet Bill will only get louder. posted 03/26/2008 at 20:04:37
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The good news is the word on the street is "get paid up fron"t when dealing with Hillary. Now if we the Citizens could just get transparency up front, we'd be in good shape. posted 04/05/2008 at 13:38:23