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Clinton's Open Letter To Obama On MI and FL
Obama Floated Idea Of Voluntarily Capping Donations
Floated Ideas? He will get nailed on this one, his promise to keep to the Federal Election guidelines. posted 05/08/2008 at 18:40:22
Florida Dems: Plan To Seat Delegates Almost Complete
Sounds like more BS and delay tactics by the Obama campaign to only seat them once he has it clinched. Unfortunately for Obama, especially if he is the nominee the MI and FL voters know better.
We heard the same story months ago. Pure BS. posted 05/08/2008 at 18:43:19
We heard the same story months ago. Pure BS. posted 05/08/2008 at 18:43:19
Jimmy Carter: Florida, Michigan Shouldn't Count
Wrong Again! That Obama spin machine is working overtime. posted 05/08/2008 at 13:11:36
What a dopey statement. If they dropped out before the deadline, their names would have been off. Another stupid rationalization by an Obama fanatic.
People the is the POTUS, not student council. posted 05/08/2008 at 13:02:26
People the is the POTUS, not student council. posted 05/08/2008 at 13:02:26
Hmmm. There were no rules that said to take your name off the ballot.
Simply repeating BS over and over again does not make it true. posted 05/08/2008 at 11:50:10
Simply repeating BS over and over again does not make it true. posted 05/08/2008 at 11:50:10
Well I see that the soviet style propaganda exists within Obama supporters. Everyone knows that there were four people on the ballot.
Simply repeating BS over and over again does not make it true. posted 05/08/2008 at 11:30:34
Simply repeating BS over and over again does not make it true. posted 05/08/2008 at 11:30:34
The biggest catastrophe for the party REALLY was... drum roll please. CARTER himself!
And the guy that claims he monitors elections all over the world now wants to support a USSR style election where certain votes count others do not. If you look up the term Disenfranchisement up in a dictionary it is defined exactly as what the DNC is doing.
Some "rules" support democracy. Rules in the USSR and the new DNC rules do not by any measure. Obama tampered with the rules anyhow. He campaigned in FL and pulled his name off the ballot in MI.
He is the biggest joke and now simply caricature of himself. Please retire already! posted 05/08/2008 at 10:36:31
And the guy that claims he monitors elections all over the world now wants to support a USSR style election where certain votes count others do not. If you look up the term Disenfranchisement up in a dictionary it is defined exactly as what the DNC is doing.
Some "rules" support democracy. Rules in the USSR and the new DNC rules do not by any measure. Obama tampered with the rules anyhow. He campaigned in FL and pulled his name off the ballot in MI.
He is the biggest joke and now simply caricature of himself. Please retire already! posted 05/08/2008 at 10:36:31
Clinton: Obama Not Winning Over "Hard-Working Americans, White Americans"
Nope. Just looking at the numbers thats all. posted 05/08/2008 at 12:50:15
Well, perhaps you should tell everyone how this might happen. The Clintons were attacked as racist when they do not have a racist bone in their body and a lifetime to the contrary.
The point is that racism works both ways. For the entire race baiting by Obama fanatics and folks like yourself there seems to be an opposite and perhaps unequal reaction.
You could blame FOX for exposing Wright as a racist, not Clinton. You cannot race bait effectively if your side is guilty of the same.
The sad part is that Obama is now unelectable by his own actions. Not other nebulously inherent racist people. Just ordinary folks from every shade of the spectrum that want to know about issues. posted 05/08/2008 at 12:49:33
The point is that racism works both ways. For the entire race baiting by Obama fanatics and folks like yourself there seems to be an opposite and perhaps unequal reaction.
You could blame FOX for exposing Wright as a racist, not Clinton. You cannot race bait effectively if your side is guilty of the same.
The sad part is that Obama is now unelectable by his own actions. Not other nebulously inherent racist people. Just ordinary folks from every shade of the spectrum that want to know about issues. posted 05/08/2008 at 12:49:33
Very, very doubtful. Obama is losing more and more white votes as he locks up the black vote. posted 05/08/2008 at 11:57:02
Obama Victorious, Clinton On The Ropes
Electability has not changed one iota.
Pennsylvania against McCain: Obama +1.2 Clinton +6.8
Ohio against McCain: McCain +3.4 Clinton +5.4
Florida against McCain: McCain +9.0 Clinton +1.7
General Election: Clinton 47, McCain 43 Clinton +4.0
General Election: Obama 45, McCain 45 Tie posted 05/07/2008 at 08:29:44
Pennsylvania against McCain: Obama +1.2 Clinton +6.8
Ohio against McCain: McCain +3.4 Clinton +5.4
Florida against McCain: McCain +9.0 Clinton +1.7
General Election: Clinton 47, McCain 43 Clinton +4.0
General Election: Obama 45, McCain 45 Tie posted 05/07/2008 at 08:29:44
Clinton Camp Tries To Redefine Delegate Math
The bogus posting on Huff PO only to imply that Clinton is at fault when Dean deserves all the blame is silly. We have 50 states not 48. Dean needs to do a revote or seat those states as voted. None of this split the delegates; we plan to give them a voice once we know the winner or any other BS that does not resolve this prima fascia issue in a way that stands up to logic.
If they violated the rules, then revote. None of this made up ridiculous subjective fairness to whomever candidates or rules. The people are all that matters, not politicians.
Not counting two of our largest states is illegitimate by any democratic measure. This number is simply the real number in the rules. posted 05/06/2008 at 15:36:12
If they violated the rules, then revote. None of this made up ridiculous subjective fairness to whomever candidates or rules. The people are all that matters, not politicians.
Not counting two of our largest states is illegitimate by any democratic measure. This number is simply the real number in the rules. posted 05/06/2008 at 15:36:12
Indiana, North Carolina Primaries: Voters Get Ready To Settle Remaining Contests
Note Post and headline at this time.
Rout with less than 4% of the vote in? OK whatever. Anyhow, he was ahead 25 pts in NC and 15 pts in IN a few weeks ago. 45% of the democratic voters in NC are black and Obama has them all locked up. So the percentage above 45 will tell you the trend outside of his base from lets say Illinois. Looks like it has shrunk enormously.
Anyhow, NC was predicted and is the last of the 10 largest states in the country. Obama won 2 out of 10 and Hillary won 8 out of 10, representing 60% of all the people in the US.
Obama should be credited for his victory in NC. There are structural electability dynamics at play that have only hardened since Super Tuesday that impact general election Electoral College. posted 05/06/2008 at 20:16:13
Rout with less than 4% of the vote in? OK whatever. Anyhow, he was ahead 25 pts in NC and 15 pts in IN a few weeks ago. 45% of the democratic voters in NC are black and Obama has them all locked up. So the percentage above 45 will tell you the trend outside of his base from lets say Illinois. Looks like it has shrunk enormously.
Anyhow, NC was predicted and is the last of the 10 largest states in the country. Obama won 2 out of 10 and Hillary won 8 out of 10, representing 60% of all the people in the US.
Obama should be credited for his victory in NC. There are structural electability dynamics at play that have only hardened since Super Tuesday that impact general election Electoral College. posted 05/06/2008 at 20:16:13
Juan Cole: Clinton's Iran Comments "Monstrous"
Well... the question was if Iran nuked Israel, which means that Iran had already obliterated their neighbor, who lost six million people during the holocaust and a close ally of the US.
She answered the hypothetical question correctly and this policy served us well and the world well during the cold war. posted 05/06/2008 at 11:44:20
She answered the hypothetical question correctly and this policy served us well and the world well during the cold war. posted 05/06/2008 at 11:44:20
Will Hillary Repeal the Clinton Gas Tax?
Anyone who votes on the gas tax issue alone is as dopey as someone who votes for a candidate because of a speech. Clinton has a policy that needs review, even by economists who are usually wrong on every prediction they make including the Clinton economic plan in the 90s.
Better still if you cannot really give a tangible policy reason to vote for your candidate, maybe you should stay home. posted 05/06/2008 at 06:49:31
Better still if you cannot really give a tangible policy reason to vote for your candidate, maybe you should stay home. posted 05/06/2008 at 06:49:31
Questioning Hillary Clinton's 'Victory' in Pennsylvania: The Rush Limbaugh Effect
Frankly, the only thing that is wrong is the polls. Obama has consistently under preformed his polls numbers. This is across every state, not just PA or CA.
It is likely that people are just not saying that they will not vote for him. Conspiracy? Race? No, not at all.
Most of the actual polltakers are college kids enamored with Obama. Obama has spent huge amounts of money. Some Obama activists have bordered on fanaticism.
People are tired. It might be hard for some with so much energy to believe it, but chalk it up to Obama fatigue. Much more likely and logical. posted 05/06/2008 at 12:30:03
It is likely that people are just not saying that they will not vote for him. Conspiracy? Race? No, not at all.
Most of the actual polltakers are college kids enamored with Obama. Obama has spent huge amounts of money. Some Obama activists have bordered on fanaticism.
People are tired. It might be hard for some with so much energy to believe it, but chalk it up to Obama fatigue. Much more likely and logical. posted 05/06/2008 at 12:30:03
What John McCain Told Me, and What it Says About How Far He's Fallen
Thank you responding. Clinton has baggage. All of it old, known and dated. Looked through with a fine toothcomb time and time again. People still vote for her despite all the negative attacks. The country is just now starting to look through (vet?) Obamas baggage. Voters are permanently being repulsed.
Outside of a 90 mile radius of Chicago Obama has never proved to connect with Reagan Democrats, Latinos or Suburban voters anyway. For this reason, alone he is less electable than Clinton is against McCain.
If McCain was more right wing, Obama might prevail. However, true independents will go for him over Obama. Activist independents lake old Nader voters will vote for Obama or stay home. The numbers are too small to put Obama over the top. Reagan Democrats and Latinos have proved to switch sides in the past and will not stay home. They will vote for Clinton then McCain in that order, based upon the most empirical and objective data.
Sad to say a vote for Obama is now a vote for McBush. posted 05/06/2008 at 12:12:35
Outside of a 90 mile radius of Chicago Obama has never proved to connect with Reagan Democrats, Latinos or Suburban voters anyway. For this reason, alone he is less electable than Clinton is against McCain.
If McCain was more right wing, Obama might prevail. However, true independents will go for him over Obama. Activist independents lake old Nader voters will vote for Obama or stay home. The numbers are too small to put Obama over the top. Reagan Democrats and Latinos have proved to switch sides in the past and will not stay home. They will vote for Clinton then McCain in that order, based upon the most empirical and objective data.
Sad to say a vote for Obama is now a vote for McBush. posted 05/06/2008 at 12:12:35
Thank you for the nice response and agreeing with my post. posted 05/06/2008 at 12:01:29
Please do not be so ideological or stupid. Black Liberation got it roots from the Marxist theology that developed in South America. Preacher Wright was hired specifically because he was interested in this theology. Please do your homework before you criticize others and attempt to make this a race issue since most of the people named in my post are not Black.
Further learned people know that Farrakhans ideology is the Muslim version of the same principles. I did not mention this because Obama is not Muslim.
I am speaking about Obama and not all Black people. Please get a grip. posted 05/06/2008 at 11:56:26
Further learned people know that Farrakhans ideology is the Muslim version of the same principles. I did not mention this because Obama is not Muslim.
I am speaking about Obama and not all Black people. Please get a grip. posted 05/06/2008 at 11:56:26
Sad to say, McCain has already proved his credibility to America runs strongest against an Obama nominee than a Clinton one.
The reason is how shockingly radical and anti American Obamas closest associates are. Liberation theology permeates every aspect of his adult life. Individually you can excuse one or two of these questionable people or activities. When you take his pastor of twenty years, Ayers, Alinsky, Reyes and other Liberation inspired activist communities in Houston and Chicago, the environment does more than raise a few eyebrows.
By every measure, this is Marxism pure and simple. It sounds extreme, but there is no alternative sensible explanation. Obama claims he does not share the views, but is loath to clearly disown any of these associates. Concealing radical affiliation is fundamental to gaining power. Central/South America is strife with Marxist dictators and terrorists teaming with Liberation Theology. There is little difference between that ideology and the activist communities here.
Additionally Obama is wholly unaccomplished at either the national and global arena. Fictional rationalizations and vast attempts to rewrite history with a quarter of a billion dollars continue to be blatantly oblivious to critical thought.
Obama"s policies contain little concrete terminology and he has no desire to spell them out to America. Un-vetted, inexperienced, questionable background and no meat regarding policy. No tangible reason to vote for him as opposed to against someone else.
The dots are connected. Regrets after the fact will be false. What in the heck are we thinking? posted 05/06/2008 at 09:27:33
The reason is how shockingly radical and anti American Obamas closest associates are. Liberation theology permeates every aspect of his adult life. Individually you can excuse one or two of these questionable people or activities. When you take his pastor of twenty years, Ayers, Alinsky, Reyes and other Liberation inspired activist communities in Houston and Chicago, the environment does more than raise a few eyebrows.
By every measure, this is Marxism pure and simple. It sounds extreme, but there is no alternative sensible explanation. Obama claims he does not share the views, but is loath to clearly disown any of these associates. Concealing radical affiliation is fundamental to gaining power. Central/South America is strife with Marxist dictators and terrorists teaming with Liberation Theology. There is little difference between that ideology and the activist communities here.
Additionally Obama is wholly unaccomplished at either the national and global arena. Fictional rationalizations and vast attempts to rewrite history with a quarter of a billion dollars continue to be blatantly oblivious to critical thought.
Obama"s policies contain little concrete terminology and he has no desire to spell them out to America. Un-vetted, inexperienced, questionable background and no meat regarding policy. No tangible reason to vote for him as opposed to against someone else.
The dots are connected. Regrets after the fact will be false. What in the heck are we thinking? posted 05/06/2008 at 09:27:33
Clinton "Elite" Bashing A Shift For Campaign That Regularly Celebrates Experts
When Bill Clinton took over after the last Bush debacle, most economists insisted that his economic plans would not work as well. 22M new jobs later and an economy that lifted pretty much all boats and some of the highest ratings of any President in history you dont hear a peep from those so-called experts (morons).
Truth be told, to generalize all experts is misleading. Economists are less correct in their predictions than many other experts, like the Weathermen for example. (Irony here?).
This is not the policy anyhow and Obama missed the boat. Further, these so-called academic experts (oxymoron?) positions are set to gas-tax alone, not to Clintons complete policy.
This is the real pandering and fear tactics that Obama has used all along throughout his campaign. Clintons plan would not lose a single job or stop a single project. Obama claims are so incredible how can anyone believe him?
We already know not to trust or believe economists. Those same people that say we are not technically in a recession. Obama is on their side? This is the same logic used by Carter in what was the most disastrous Presidency on record, save for Bush once he is out.
Run for the door while you have a chance. A vote for Obama is a vote for McBush or economic disaster. posted 05/05/2008 at 16:25:21
Truth be told, to generalize all experts is misleading. Economists are less correct in their predictions than many other experts, like the Weathermen for example. (Irony here?).
This is not the policy anyhow and Obama missed the boat. Further, these so-called academic experts (oxymoron?) positions are set to gas-tax alone, not to Clintons complete policy.
This is the real pandering and fear tactics that Obama has used all along throughout his campaign. Clintons plan would not lose a single job or stop a single project. Obama claims are so incredible how can anyone believe him?
We already know not to trust or believe economists. Those same people that say we are not technically in a recession. Obama is on their side? This is the same logic used by Carter in what was the most disastrous Presidency on record, save for Bush once he is out.
Run for the door while you have a chance. A vote for Obama is a vote for McBush or economic disaster. posted 05/05/2008 at 16:25:21
GOP Gleeful at Obama rocky period
Running and supporting another un-vetted candidate with a fraction of the resume of Kerry who was hammered by the Republicans; consistently demonstrates the blind spot of the DNC leadership. Another too left candidate, even less background on the National scene and a 20 year local record purposely hidden from hidden analysis.
Business as usual for the power hungry true DNC dinosaur establishment regulars like Kennedy, Carter, Kerry, Pelosi, Dean, Hart and company. They just do not get it.
They thought they could jam another unelectable candidate down the throats of Democrats again. At least many more centric, non elitist democrats like Latinos, Reagan Democrats and suburban voters are all trying to fight back against this hijacking of the party by the far left wing and way-off-the-charts activists that claim to be progressives. posted 05/05/2008 at 16:55:15
Business as usual for the power hungry true DNC dinosaur establishment regulars like Kennedy, Carter, Kerry, Pelosi, Dean, Hart and company. They just do not get it.
They thought they could jam another unelectable candidate down the throats of Democrats again. At least many more centric, non elitist democrats like Latinos, Reagan Democrats and suburban voters are all trying to fight back against this hijacking of the party by the far left wing and way-off-the-charts activists that claim to be progressives. posted 05/05/2008 at 16:55:15
Latest Indiana And North Carolina Polling Averages
All true. The DNC however likes to put the weakest candidate in. posted 05/07/2008 at 21:02:51
Clinton Camp Says It Will Use The Nuclear Option
Sucks. This is why Clinton is a better candidate. We cannot take a chance on moving completely to the left with another inexperienced President. posted 05/06/2008 at 12:21:55
Thanks for the response. I too have traveled all over the world and for many years. Obama is either on the far left fringe or out of the mainstream of America. This does not mean that people with various views are unwelcome in this country.
However if you objectively do you homework you will see that there is no debate over my points. Further, I have not idea about your personal views are. This is about Obama and he falls short with simple objective analysis.
I would say this, he is auditioning while McCain and Clinton are interviewing. posted 05/06/2008 at 12:19:57
However if you objectively do you homework you will see that there is no debate over my points. Further, I have not idea about your personal views are. This is about Obama and he falls short with simple objective analysis.
I would say this, he is auditioning while McCain and Clinton are interviewing. posted 05/06/2008 at 12:19:57
Thank you agreeing that Obama is outside of the mainstream of America. posted 05/06/2008 at 09:30:37
Many want Clinton to do what ever it takes to win.
What is most shocking about Obama is how radical and anti American his closest associates are. Liberation theology permeates every aspect of his adult life. Individually you can excuse one or two of these questionable people or activities. When you take his pastor of twenty years, Ayers, Alinsky, Reyes and other Liberation inspired activist communities in Houston and Chicago, the environment does more than raise a few eyebrows.
By every measure, this is Marxism pure and simple. It sounds extreme, but there is no alternative sensible explanation. Obama claims he does not share the views, but is loath to clearly disown any of these associates. Concealing radical affiliation is fundamental to gaining power. Central/South America is strife with Marxist dictators and terrorists teaming with Liberation Theology. There is little difference between that ideology and the activist communities here.
Additionally Obama is wholly unaccomplished at either the national and global arena. Fictional rationalizations and vast attempts to rewrite history with a quarter of a billion dollars continue to be blatantly obvious to critical thought.
Obama"s policies contain little concrete terminology and he has no desire to spell them out to America. Un-vetted, inexperienced, questionable background and no meat regarding policy. No tangible reasons to vote for him as opposed to against someone else.
The dots are connected. Regrets after the fact advance will be false. What in the heck are we thinking? posted 05/06/2008 at 09:06:16
What is most shocking about Obama is how radical and anti American his closest associates are. Liberation theology permeates every aspect of his adult life. Individually you can excuse one or two of these questionable people or activities. When you take his pastor of twenty years, Ayers, Alinsky, Reyes and other Liberation inspired activist communities in Houston and Chicago, the environment does more than raise a few eyebrows.
By every measure, this is Marxism pure and simple. It sounds extreme, but there is no alternative sensible explanation. Obama claims he does not share the views, but is loath to clearly disown any of these associates. Concealing radical affiliation is fundamental to gaining power. Central/South America is strife with Marxist dictators and terrorists teaming with Liberation Theology. There is little difference between that ideology and the activist communities here.
Additionally Obama is wholly unaccomplished at either the national and global arena. Fictional rationalizations and vast attempts to rewrite history with a quarter of a billion dollars continue to be blatantly obvious to critical thought.
Obama"s policies contain little concrete terminology and he has no desire to spell them out to America. Un-vetted, inexperienced, questionable background and no meat regarding policy. No tangible reasons to vote for him as opposed to against someone else.
The dots are connected. Regrets after the fact advance will be false. What in the heck are we thinking? posted 05/06/2008 at 09:06:16
AMEN posted 05/05/2008 at 16:28:36
Count the votes. Finish the process. posted 05/05/2008 at 08:38:10
I see that it does take a lot of work when someone attempts to make a case against basic democratic principles.
I will only say this as a response.
1. Voting as a democratic is the same weather it is for student council or a primary. So get off this we are different charge.
2. .In those other cases candidates stepped down so the comparison is irrelevant. In this case, there are two still running. FL and MI should be counted precisely because they DO MATTER.
Maybe Obama supporter need to take a civics class instead of all those of poly-science credits. posted 05/05/2008 at 08:36:35
I will only say this as a response.
1. Voting as a democratic is the same weather it is for student council or a primary. So get off this we are different charge.
2. .In those other cases candidates stepped down so the comparison is irrelevant. In this case, there are two still running. FL and MI should be counted precisely because they DO MATTER.
Maybe Obama supporter need to take a civics class instead of all those of poly-science credits. posted 05/05/2008 at 08:36:35
There is only one fact that is important. We are a country of 50 states and we are only counting 48.
Next Question? posted 05/05/2008 at 08:24:26
Next Question? posted 05/05/2008 at 08:24:26
Objective, much? posted 05/05/2008 at 08:23:08
Regardless, the DNC and Obama fought against revotes. Therefore, this is not a cut and dried principled view for them.
So the charge that Clinton suppressed the votes is yet another passive aggressive Obama supporter viewpoint disguised as an independent ideology. posted 05/05/2008 at 08:21:54
So the charge that Clinton suppressed the votes is yet another passive aggressive Obama supporter viewpoint disguised as an independent ideology. posted 05/05/2008 at 08:21:54
I agree and now the Democrats are doing the same thing. Great for the country? posted 05/05/2008 at 08:18:36
Of course, it is the DNCs fault. What planet are you living on? Everyone agreed to rules few agreed with the penalty.
A distinction with a huge difference.
Moreover, please do not forget that MI had four people on the Ballot and that Obama purposely took his name off simply in an attempt to delegitimize those voters.
Given all these radical actions by the DNC and Obama, anything Clinton or anyone else wants to do to re-enfranchise the voters is ok for principled people. posted 05/05/2008 at 08:17:48
A distinction with a huge difference.
Moreover, please do not forget that MI had four people on the Ballot and that Obama purposely took his name off simply in an attempt to delegitimize those voters.
Given all these radical actions by the DNC and Obama, anything Clinton or anyone else wants to do to re-enfranchise the voters is ok for principled people. posted 05/05/2008 at 08:17:48
The facts are that the penalty occurred after the fact of the states decision. A monumental blunder. Disenfranchising FL after 2000 when the Dem biggest argument was Disenfranchisement. posted 05/05/2008 at 08:12:41
A distinction without a difference. Your arguments are all ideological from Ickes to Dean. Those are old arguments and do not stand up to blatantly violating Democratic Principles. posted 05/05/2008 at 08:09:51
Demonizing Clinton when Dean and the DNC exposed the party to disenfranchisement and corruption charges usually reserved for the opposition continues to prove the point this post, just like many of the books written by the author, are simply perverted rationalizations attempting to prove an existing position, as opposed to any serious or objective analysis.
The DNCs mistake and to the neglect of the poster, is that Dean and company have already used the nuclear option in an attempt to kill Democracy.
The ultimate penalty to FL and MI was disenfranchisement which they had no problem initiating, an outrage for any true Democrat. However when the wrong could have been righted, and at no cost to the party, they chose to keep those voters disenfranchised.
Regardless of the motives of the DNC or the candidates, the democratic principle of having all of the people"s voice heard must never, ever be violated or ignored. There can be no valid justification of any kind to blatantly violate one of the most basic of democratic principles.
To falsely rationalize that those who are already guilty of the former (disenfranchisement) may be held to account (democracy) are using conflated rhetoric (nuclear option) to blatantly corrupt their process under false pretenses (rules that had no defined penalty) is so outrageous to any fair-minded person.
Count those votes. It is the principled and right thing to do. If not the DNC, leadership should be fired and replaced with people with character and principle. posted 05/05/2008 at 07:14:00
The DNCs mistake and to the neglect of the poster, is that Dean and company have already used the nuclear option in an attempt to kill Democracy.
The ultimate penalty to FL and MI was disenfranchisement which they had no problem initiating, an outrage for any true Democrat. However when the wrong could have been righted, and at no cost to the party, they chose to keep those voters disenfranchised.
Regardless of the motives of the DNC or the candidates, the democratic principle of having all of the people"s voice heard must never, ever be violated or ignored. There can be no valid justification of any kind to blatantly violate one of the most basic of democratic principles.
To falsely rationalize that those who are already guilty of the former (disenfranchisement) may be held to account (democracy) are using conflated rhetoric (nuclear option) to blatantly corrupt their process under false pretenses (rules that had no defined penalty) is so outrageous to any fair-minded person.
Count those votes. It is the principled and right thing to do. If not the DNC, leadership should be fired and replaced with people with character and principle. posted 05/05/2008 at 07:14:00
Clinton Gas Tax Holiday: Hillary Attacks Economists
You really do not understand the capital markets. Initially they will attempt to raise prices but not to the full amount. The inevitable single gas station that passes through the entire savings will get more business and drive the rest to do the same.
It will be impossible for them to collude since by design this is done quickly and expires at the end of the summer. posted 05/05/2008 at 08:29:48
It will be impossible for them to collude since by design this is done quickly and expires at the end of the summer. posted 05/05/2008 at 08:29:48
This is not fact as are never most of the economists predictions. In addition, Obama has dishonestly attempted to state that this is a policy decision when it is clearly not. I do not want to get into peak oil theory her or explain the capital markets to Huff Po readers, but to imply this is the solution is preposterous to everyone except to Obama supporters. posted 05/05/2008 at 08:26:41
She of course is correct, since many economists are so wrong when obviously simple and practical actions are devolved into a myriad of conceptual, never proven and often incorrect predictions.
It is amazing that Obama is using economists in an attempt to prove a point when those that predict the weather are a hundred times more accurate.
This is an obvious point that Clinton makes and it is everything it seems to be and nothing else. An action that will definitely help consumers, and would not lose a simple job or stop a single project.
It is not policy and it can be done in the short term. Clever yes. Gimmick maybe. However, who cares if it takes even a penny of burden away from the already overburdened people. posted 05/05/2008 at 07:21:27
It is amazing that Obama is using economists in an attempt to prove a point when those that predict the weather are a hundred times more accurate.
This is an obvious point that Clinton makes and it is everything it seems to be and nothing else. An action that will definitely help consumers, and would not lose a simple job or stop a single project.
It is not policy and it can be done in the short term. Clever yes. Gimmick maybe. However, who cares if it takes even a penny of burden away from the already overburdened people. posted 05/05/2008 at 07:21:27
Eight Belles, Kentucky Derby Horse, Dies On Track
A true tragedy.
People forget how innocent, loyal and joyous animals are to people. Our evolutionary bond ensures we are intractably connected forever.
There may be issues that are more important for some; but when you look into an animals eyes; you see yourself and god in them. There is a Soul and a Heart. There is Love. Friendship. Spirit!
Thoroughbreds, a freak of nature, possess an innate desire to please humans. In return, the big business of horseracing often ignores their most basic needs.
The best racetracks are often uneven, too hard or have flaws. Thoroughbreds with human sized ankles and half-ton frames galloping at 30 miles an hour are already at risk.
When ailments like bucked shins are easily overlooked or; barbaric accelerated remodeling of young and growing equines often with injured frames is typical, we all must understand that these animals deserve better.
Eight Belles, a huge and spirited filly broke down in the prime of life and at the highlight of her short career. The trainers and insiders that they never heard of both ankles breaking at the same time also seem to overlook Magic Man
Could this have been prevented? Probably not. When god"s creatures are involved in a multi-billion dollar enterprise, do they deserve better? Absolutely. From the winner of the Kentucky Derby all the way down to the inhuman disposal of those those are not up to snuff. posted 05/04/2008 at 11:07:00
People forget how innocent, loyal and joyous animals are to people. Our evolutionary bond ensures we are intractably connected forever.
There may be issues that are more important for some; but when you look into an animals eyes; you see yourself and god in them. There is a Soul and a Heart. There is Love. Friendship. Spirit!
Thoroughbreds, a freak of nature, possess an innate desire to please humans. In return, the big business of horseracing often ignores their most basic needs.
The best racetracks are often uneven, too hard or have flaws. Thoroughbreds with human sized ankles and half-ton frames galloping at 30 miles an hour are already at risk.
When ailments like bucked shins are easily overlooked or; barbaric accelerated remodeling of young and growing equines often with injured frames is typical, we all must understand that these animals deserve better.
Eight Belles, a huge and spirited filly broke down in the prime of life and at the highlight of her short career. The trainers and insiders that they never heard of both ankles breaking at the same time also seem to overlook Magic Man
Could this have been prevented? Probably not. When god"s creatures are involved in a multi-billion dollar enterprise, do they deserve better? Absolutely. From the winner of the Kentucky Derby all the way down to the inhuman disposal of those those are not up to snuff. posted 05/04/2008 at 11:07:00
Rove's Next Trick -- If Obama Must Answer For His Minister Now, Just Wait to See What the Republicans Will Do To Clinton Inc. in October
This conspiracy theory attempts to deflect and ignore so many realities there is only room to point out a couple.
First, you needed to actually believe the republicans including people like Lutz that they really did want to run against Clinton. To rationalize that this was a double head fake is ludicrous. The right wants to run against the most liberal candidate, which is obviously Obama.
For those that pay attention, Clinton did not vet Obama, the right wing media did. After Clinton and the Democrats ignored Wright; during which time Obama did nothing to tangibly define himself, he was, and still is a sitting duck.
Instead of looking in the rear view mirror, lets look ahead. An obvious one is the Obama campaign ignores that Michelles senior thesis was purposely pulled from public view until the day after the election. Clinton has never brought this up but the right has.
I do this only to prove the point and the fact that Obama supporters have purposely misplaced their outrage toward Clinton. You know that the Republicans already have a copy and will continue to attack Obama since he was never vetted nor defined.
Despicable for many, but not to those whom Obama has never connected. Yet he cannot win without their vote, another pathological denial by the left. Obama continues to be defined by the right on their terms. The DNC keeps shooting themselves in the foot by believing that Hillary is the enemy. Result? Another unelectable candidate. posted 05/05/2008 at 06:39:52
First, you needed to actually believe the republicans including people like Lutz that they really did want to run against Clinton. To rationalize that this was a double head fake is ludicrous. The right wants to run against the most liberal candidate, which is obviously Obama.
For those that pay attention, Clinton did not vet Obama, the right wing media did. After Clinton and the Democrats ignored Wright; during which time Obama did nothing to tangibly define himself, he was, and still is a sitting duck.
Instead of looking in the rear view mirror, lets look ahead. An obvious one is the Obama campaign ignores that Michelles senior thesis was purposely pulled from public view until the day after the election. Clinton has never brought this up but the right has.
I do this only to prove the point and the fact that Obama supporters have purposely misplaced their outrage toward Clinton. You know that the Republicans already have a copy and will continue to attack Obama since he was never vetted nor defined.
Despicable for many, but not to those whom Obama has never connected. Yet he cannot win without their vote, another pathological denial by the left. Obama continues to be defined by the right on their terms. The DNC keeps shooting themselves in the foot by believing that Hillary is the enemy. Result? Another unelectable candidate. posted 05/05/2008 at 06:39:52
Why Obama Provides a More Compelling Contrast to McCain than Hillary
Hi Bob,
For once, I agree. Almost. Obama will provide a great contrast, Yes. But no, it will not be more compelling against McCain, unless your views are further left or simply outside of 80% of the general population.
Your point that voters are more favorable to McCain than a standard issue Republican is exactly why Clinton, and not Obama, provides the best competition to McCain. The obvious reason is that Obama is to the left of the standard issue Democrat while Hillarys natural more left-center position matches up better against the right center McCain.
McCains independents are more traditional swing voters. Many of Obamas independents falsely brand themselves as progressives and are actually more extreme activists to the left of the party.
McCain can pivot back to his anti Bush positions, it will be a challenge, but those positions will be recognizable. Obama on the other hand cannot pivot anywhere since he has never connected with the voters he needs to begin with. This will be another attempt to sell Obama by fitting the square peg into a round hole. This will be obvious as it was in FL, OH, and PA primaries as well as other important new swing states.
Clinton on the other hand does not need to pivot one iota. She can run as she always has. This is precisely why she is the most electable. The other two will need to resell their new and disingenuous positions to a critical public. posted 05/05/2008 at 07:59:59
For once, I agree. Almost. Obama will provide a great contrast, Yes. But no, it will not be more compelling against McCain, unless your views are further left or simply outside of 80% of the general population.
Your point that voters are more favorable to McCain than a standard issue Republican is exactly why Clinton, and not Obama, provides the best competition to McCain. The obvious reason is that Obama is to the left of the standard issue Democrat while Hillarys natural more left-center position matches up better against the right center McCain.
McCains independents are more traditional swing voters. Many of Obamas independents falsely brand themselves as progressives and are actually more extreme activists to the left of the party.
McCain can pivot back to his anti Bush positions, it will be a challenge, but those positions will be recognizable. Obama on the other hand cannot pivot anywhere since he has never connected with the voters he needs to begin with. This will be another attempt to sell Obama by fitting the square peg into a round hole. This will be obvious as it was in FL, OH, and PA primaries as well as other important new swing states.
Clinton on the other hand does not need to pivot one iota. She can run as she always has. This is precisely why she is the most electable. The other two will need to resell their new and disingenuous positions to a critical public. posted 05/05/2008 at 07:59:59
Clinton seeks gas tax vote, Obama calls it 'shell' game
Pelosi wants to stop another Democrat but does nothing to stop Bush.
Nice work Nancy! posted 05/03/2008 at 11:23:26
Nice work Nancy! posted 05/03/2008 at 11:23:26
Suddenly everyone is an economist! I will try to dumb this down for the Obama supporters who probably do not understand Peak Oil Theory or how the Capital Markets actually work. George Soros excluded of course.
This works just like the stimulus package that Obama signed. There was not budget for that either, but since there is no pay-go, it does not matter. Not a single project will be canceled nor a single job last because of this tax holiday. In fact, it would be like saying that the stimulus package would lose 140,000 jobs in Indiana since it was 20x larger. Complete econo BS, not to mention Obama hypocrisy and pandering.
Would gas stations may try to take advantage of some of this tax cut, but only one needs to pass it along and all the rest will follow. Therefore, there is also no reason NOT to believe that at least some of the cut will be passed to consumers.
Finally, this is not policy. Obama has done nothing except to criticize those that take action. SOUR GRAPES. posted 05/03/2008 at 11:19:38
This works just like the stimulus package that Obama signed. There was not budget for that either, but since there is no pay-go, it does not matter. Not a single project will be canceled nor a single job last because of this tax holiday. In fact, it would be like saying that the stimulus package would lose 140,000 jobs in Indiana since it was 20x larger. Complete econo BS, not to mention Obama hypocrisy and pandering.
Would gas stations may try to take advantage of some of this tax cut, but only one needs to pass it along and all the rest will follow. Therefore, there is also no reason NOT to believe that at least some of the cut will be passed to consumers.
Finally, this is not policy. Obama has done nothing except to criticize those that take action. SOUR GRAPES. posted 05/03/2008 at 11:19:38
Yes the economists say this but as we know they are never right in predicting a single thing. posted 05/03/2008 at 11:00:45
Thank you for your thoughtful comments.
However, you are misinformed or simply trying to make a silk purse out of a sow"s ear.
I will try to dumb it down for you and ignore peak oil theory for now. Ok? I know most Obama supporters know little of how the capital market works anyway.
1. This is NOT policy. It is short-term assistance and people will pay less for gas.
2. The trust fund can and has in the past run in deficit. There is no Pay-Go in congress remember? This means not a single project will be canceled and not a single job would be lost.
3. Hillary being short term. You are kidding right?
Listen any idiot knows about the excise tax. And suddenly everyone is an economist.
Lastly and most obvious is that this plan works exactly like the stimulus package that Obama signed. So Obama is ok with the stimulus package last month but not ok with this one?
Talk about only taking a position for political gain. Please! posted 05/03/2008 at 10:59:39
However, you are misinformed or simply trying to make a silk purse out of a sow"s ear.
I will try to dumb it down for you and ignore peak oil theory for now. Ok? I know most Obama supporters know little of how the capital market works anyway.
1. This is NOT policy. It is short-term assistance and people will pay less for gas.
2. The trust fund can and has in the past run in deficit. There is no Pay-Go in congress remember? This means not a single project will be canceled and not a single job would be lost.
3. Hillary being short term. You are kidding right?
Listen any idiot knows about the excise tax. And suddenly everyone is an economist.
Lastly and most obvious is that this plan works exactly like the stimulus package that Obama signed. So Obama is ok with the stimulus package last month but not ok with this one?
Talk about only taking a position for political gain. Please! posted 05/03/2008 at 10:59:39
Hmmm. Yeah let me put my marco 101 book aside and get my kids 1st grade arithmetic book.
Yep, just as I thought! There it is right in the adding and subtracting section.
Please take a look for yourself before you make dopey posts. posted 05/03/2008 at 10:47:26
Yep, just as I thought! There it is right in the adding and subtracting section.
Please take a look for yourself before you make dopey posts. posted 05/03/2008 at 10:47:26
You are misinformed if you think this was a blind post not to mention that you are also misinformed on how the government budget system works.
Pandering, maybe but no different from the stimulus package that Obama voted for. There was no budget for that either. Are you saying that the stimulus package would lose jobs also? That was 20 xs larger than a gas tax holiday, so are you saying that would lose 140,000 jobs? 20x7000. Complete BS scare tactics.
Listen we all know this is not policy. Just short-term help. There is no conspiracy.
Obama is just stupid and a hypocrite or just thinks we are all stupid.
Wheres my gun and bible! posted 05/03/2008 at 10:44:43
Pandering, maybe but no different from the stimulus package that Obama voted for. There was no budget for that either. Are you saying that the stimulus package would lose jobs also? That was 20 xs larger than a gas tax holiday, so are you saying that would lose 140,000 jobs? 20x7000. Complete BS scare tactics.
Listen we all know this is not policy. Just short-term help. There is no conspiracy.
Obama is just stupid and a hypocrite or just thinks we are all stupid.
Wheres my gun and bible! posted 05/03/2008 at 10:44:43
So it will not help them? Dont be so stupid. This works just like the stimulus plan that Obama voted for. There is no different what so ever.
Was he pandering then? Or is he playing politics now?
He doesnt even know when his positions are hypocritical of each other.
Maybe he thinks we are all stupid. posted 05/03/2008 at 10:38:25
Was he pandering then? Or is he playing politics now?
He doesnt even know when his positions are hypocritical of each other.
Maybe he thinks we are all stupid. posted 05/03/2008 at 10:38:25
Brainwashed? look whos talking.
This program will not stop a single project or eliminate a single job. The trust fund can run in deficit lake any other bucket in congress. There is no pay-go remember? posted 05/03/2008 at 10:36:00
This program will not stop a single project or eliminate a single job. The trust fund can run in deficit lake any other bucket in congress. There is no pay-go remember? posted 05/03/2008 at 10:36:00
This proposal will not lose a single job and Obama knows it. He also knows that this in not a policy but short term help for consumers and truck drivers. Using scare tactics again proves he is not only a typical politician, but also a bad one. What happened to the original Brand? posted 05/03/2008 at 08:29:24
Early Indiana turnout heavy in strong Obama counties
What does inexperienced and un-vetted mean in the General election?
Well for Obama, it only gets worse, but it is not his fault. He told Russert straightaway (lied?) that he would not run for president since he just started his first term as Senator since his national and global experience was Zero.
Some other jackasses thought it was their time, not Obama.
All the Blame, 100% goes to the REAL establishment DNC, Dean, Kennedy, Hart, Carter who time after time do not get it and field a left wing ideologue instead of what the country and most Democrats desperately need, a Democratic President. Their selfishness, power hungry blindness and misplaced hatred for one of their own, Clinton, cannot see that she is not our enemy.
This team of losers has screwed the party six ways to Sunday. AGAIN. Dean and the others must resign from the DNC as soon as possible.
General Election------McCain-Obama------McCain-Clinton
National----------------------Tie----------------Clinton +2.9
Pennsylvania--------------Obama +1.2--------Clinton +6.8
Ohio ----------------------McCain +3.4--------Clinton +5.4
Florida -------------------McCain +9.0--------Clinton +1.7
To date the polls wrong only for Obama, and he is BEHIND McCain in EVs, while OVERPOLLING. Clinton over 300 EVs WINS against McCain. Obama has spent a quarter of a BILLION dollars has not connected with a majority of Regan Democrats or Latinos outside a 90 mile radius of Chicago.
What are Heck are doing? What are we thinking? posted 05/03/2008 at 08:39:11
The Question of Hillary Clinton's Guilt-By-Association Tactics
Perhaps.
But Ayers, just like Wright and Farrakhan were not immediately denounced nor adequately until Obama had to. Even then, he still hedged and played with the words. So people want to know more. We knew nothing tangible about Obama and he had the opportunity to fill that piece of the pie on his terms but did not. Especially about his beliefs and how he would govern.
We were told Wright was an anomaly; that there was nothing there and we are surprised that nothing was true, so there is a serious credibility issue.
From Clinton to Obama these were all bad people according to most. Only Obamas have proven themselves hateful and unpatriotic. This is the only reason people gave Obama a hard time about a pin.
So perhaps it is unfair, but it is Obamas own fault. He dealt with these issues poorly and that makes it even worse.
Finally if you bring Bill into this, then you must also look at the success of a President with one of the highest approval ratings in history.
Glass house sure. Live by the sword. Definitely. posted 05/03/2008 at 19:09:52
But Ayers, just like Wright and Farrakhan were not immediately denounced nor adequately until Obama had to. Even then, he still hedged and played with the words. So people want to know more. We knew nothing tangible about Obama and he had the opportunity to fill that piece of the pie on his terms but did not. Especially about his beliefs and how he would govern.
We were told Wright was an anomaly; that there was nothing there and we are surprised that nothing was true, so there is a serious credibility issue.
From Clinton to Obama these were all bad people according to most. Only Obamas have proven themselves hateful and unpatriotic. This is the only reason people gave Obama a hard time about a pin.
So perhaps it is unfair, but it is Obamas own fault. He dealt with these issues poorly and that makes it even worse.
Finally if you bring Bill into this, then you must also look at the success of a President with one of the highest approval ratings in history.
Glass house sure. Live by the sword. Definitely. posted 05/03/2008 at 19:09:52
The NY Times? Yeah, real objective. I will give you a great example.
The second time that the Wright issue came up, they buried the story on page 21. His speech to address it was on the front page and above the fold. Why do you think that is?
Why did Obama give a speech on Race when it was about Hate and Patriotism?
It does not matter now since we know that Wright was always been that way and his snippets were the rule and not the exception.
So now that speech is worthless and Obama now has even more baggage regarding Judgment (proves his speech on the war was luck and he is not a good judge of people) and credibility (Did he lie when he said he never heard those things from Wright).
Sandwiched in between Obamas Hate / Patriotism and Judgment / Credibility issues in case you forgot was elitism!
Am I mad that the DNC hand the far left fanatics have screwed up this election again? You Bet. Obama was unvetted and is now unelectable (check my pother posts).
Where is my bible and gun! posted 05/03/2008 at 17:44:07
The second time that the Wright issue came up, they buried the story on page 21. His speech to address it was on the front page and above the fold. Why do you think that is?
Why did Obama give a speech on Race when it was about Hate and Patriotism?
It does not matter now since we know that Wright was always been that way and his snippets were the rule and not the exception.
So now that speech is worthless and Obama now has even more baggage regarding Judgment (proves his speech on the war was luck and he is not a good judge of people) and credibility (Did he lie when he said he never heard those things from Wright).
Sandwiched in between Obamas Hate / Patriotism and Judgment / Credibility issues in case you forgot was elitism!
Am I mad that the DNC hand the far left fanatics have screwed up this election again? You Bet. Obama was unvetted and is now unelectable (check my pother posts).
Where is my bible and gun! posted 05/03/2008 at 17:44:07
I apologize for not being a good writer. I will try to be more clear.
Obama downplayed Ayers in the last debate and Clinton called him on it. Obama tried to finesse the question but got nailed. As far as links that astound, how about Obama and his campaign linking pretty much everything bad about Bush to Clinton.
You would think she singlehandedly came up with the idea and started the war herself. Obama on the other hand gave a riskless speech with no recorded record and did nothing after that. I gave the same speech in the office around the same time and had the exact same impact on the war. Nothing.
You would also think that her Husbands presidency was a failure when in fact he had some of the highest approval ratings in history while Bush and Carter fight for the worst.
So please stop the passive aggressive altruistic nonsense.
Lastly and more to the point. To say that basically a terrorist is just highly critical of America is now pathological. You or your girlfriend never blew up anyone.
That Obama was seven at the time or that terrorists are just critical of their country are distinctions without a difference.
I wish the Democrats had someone like Rove instead of losers like Dean, Kerry, Carter, Kennedy, Richardson and Hart. For the uninformed, I mean that they lost their chance to become President except for Carter who was a disastrous one timer. History looks to repeat itself. posted 05/03/2008 at 17:34:30
Obama downplayed Ayers in the last debate and Clinton called him on it. Obama tried to finesse the question but got nailed. As far as links that astound, how about Obama and his campaign linking pretty much everything bad about Bush to Clinton.
You would think she singlehandedly came up with the idea and started the war herself. Obama on the other hand gave a riskless speech with no recorded record and did nothing after that. I gave the same speech in the office around the same time and had the exact same impact on the war. Nothing.
You would also think that her Husbands presidency was a failure when in fact he had some of the highest approval ratings in history while Bush and Carter fight for the worst.
So please stop the passive aggressive altruistic nonsense.
Lastly and more to the point. To say that basically a terrorist is just highly critical of America is now pathological. You or your girlfriend never blew up anyone.
That Obama was seven at the time or that terrorists are just critical of their country are distinctions without a difference.
I wish the Democrats had someone like Rove instead of losers like Dean, Kerry, Carter, Kennedy, Richardson and Hart. For the uninformed, I mean that they lost their chance to become President except for Carter who was a disastrous one timer. History looks to repeat itself. posted 05/03/2008 at 17:34:30
Passive aggressive, duplicitous rationalizations are so unbecoming. posted 05/03/2008 at 14:32:47
btw. I only speak for myself and do not carry anyones water. posted 05/03/2008 at 14:26:06
Dont be stupid. Of course I got the piece. Especially the since it was about guilt by association and Carl brings up McCarthy. Hello. GOT IT! posted 05/03/2008 at 14:25:22
Carl, I like you even if you do not know when to stop talking. It took me forever to read your post. From what I can tell, you are attempting to make an equivalency (falsely) between some of the Clinton unsavory characters to Reverend Wright and Weathermen Bill Ayers as well as indicating that the Clinton is engaging in McCarthyism.
You of course negligently disregard that this attack as a counter punch response to Obamas even less relevant attack. You also feel clever in using McCarthy imagery because he said he was a patriot when in fact he was not. As usual your desire to make a story seem more sensational becomes a conflation of reality that only you seem to grasp. Outside of Obama and his campaign of course.
Obama opened the door since he has been making red-faced links that are so astounding far apart, it seems that six degrees of separation is an irrelevant measure to that campaign.
The main issue of course is that Ayers and Wright have demonstrated a hatred for America and fondness for propaganda. Tangential relationships? Ayes and Wright?
You are kidding right?
btw - All this shaming stuff is getting quite tiring. Do you know another tune? posted 05/03/2008 at 10:30:49
You of course negligently disregard that this attack as a counter punch response to Obamas even less relevant attack. You also feel clever in using McCarthy imagery because he said he was a patriot when in fact he was not. As usual your desire to make a story seem more sensational becomes a conflation of reality that only you seem to grasp. Outside of Obama and his campaign of course.
Obama opened the door since he has been making red-faced links that are so astounding far apart, it seems that six degrees of separation is an irrelevant measure to that campaign.
The main issue of course is that Ayers and Wright have demonstrated a hatred for America and fondness for propaganda. Tangential relationships? Ayes and Wright?
You are kidding right?
btw - All this shaming stuff is getting quite tiring. Do you know another tune? posted 05/03/2008 at 10:30:49
Olbermann: Clinton's O'Reilly Appearance "Pathetic And Revelatory"
Keith is losing it, Maybe he has the hots for Maddow and wants to prove his cred. Whatever, but he is so full of it these days. I will try to watch him again after the election.
The Republicans are the enemy, NOT Clinton. What a dope. posted 05/03/2008 at 08:26:33
The Republicans are the enemy, NOT Clinton. What a dope. posted 05/03/2008 at 08:26:33
Analysis: Momentum, Obama's distractions give Clinton hope
Sorry but I am talking about the general election and obama weakness compared to clinton regarding electability. Also she beat Obama hands down in both NY and CA. Most true independents are going for McCain over Obama anyhow. So it seems you are the minority. posted 05/03/2008 at 11:08:04
The arithmetic does not add up for Obama and never has. Clinton now has real distance against McCain while Obama is behind. Here is why and from a pure numbers perspective, just like the ones that Obama supporters refer to when counting delegates btw.
EC arithmetic. Hillary runs strongest in new swing states like OH,PA,NJ,AK,TN,FL,KYandWV (113EVs/270). Obama may bring in CO and IA (16EVs/270). Clinton has a Political advantage over Obama in FL/MI representing 16% of EC. Obama is tied to the DNC decision to disenfranchise. Most importantly, Reagan Democrats and Latinos have proven they have flipped Republican recently. Clinton keeps these voters home Obama does not. True Independents will be split between Obama and McCain, progressives could flip to Nader, but the Black base in the Democratic Party has never stayed home, even though some others newly involved in the party may.
Even in the primary, when Obama wins NC Clinton has won 80% of the largest states, reflecting almost 60% of the voters.
It is now structural and does not add up. Obama is a likely loser. posted 05/02/2008 at 09:50:37
EC arithmetic. Hillary runs strongest in new swing states like OH,PA,NJ,AK,TN,FL,KYandWV (113EVs/270). Obama may bring in CO and IA (16EVs/270). Clinton has a Political advantage over Obama in FL/MI representing 16% of EC. Obama is tied to the DNC decision to disenfranchise. Most importantly, Reagan Democrats and Latinos have proven they have flipped Republican recently. Clinton keeps these voters home Obama does not. True Independents will be split between Obama and McCain, progressives could flip to Nader, but the Black base in the Democratic Party has never stayed home, even though some others newly involved in the party may.
Even in the primary, when Obama wins NC Clinton has won 80% of the largest states, reflecting almost 60% of the voters.
It is now structural and does not add up. Obama is a likely loser. posted 05/02/2008 at 09:50:37
Democrats And Fox News Play Nice
The main reason is that the DNC, MoveCON, DailyCON, ObamaWeek, NBC and MSNBC have repulsed many Democrats who now have decided to vote for McCain this go around if they cannot vote for Clinton.
This amazing phenomenon is hard to ignore when the incumbent Republican President has some of the lowest ratings in history.
It indicates that despite all the baggage they now view the DNC and Obama as a worse outcome than McCain. Says a lot for the elitist DNC, maybe in fact it was they that felt entitled all along.
Their reaction is not ignorant, dumb or holding to their religion or guns. Frankly, they have what a liberal ivy leagues education sometimes ignores. Common sense, perspective and judgment. Not to mention an innate ability to spot BS. posted 05/03/2008 at 09:00:45
This amazing phenomenon is hard to ignore when the incumbent Republican President has some of the lowest ratings in history.
It indicates that despite all the baggage they now view the DNC and Obama as a worse outcome than McCain. Says a lot for the elitist DNC, maybe in fact it was they that felt entitled all along.
Their reaction is not ignorant, dumb or holding to their religion or guns. Frankly, they have what a liberal ivy leagues education sometimes ignores. Common sense, perspective and judgment. Not to mention an innate ability to spot BS. posted 05/03/2008 at 09:00:45
Black-Issues Group: Price To Pay If Clinton Wins Through Superdelegates
Therefore, Sharpton and Jackson tactics are alive and well in the Obama campaign, who should have told them to stop the threat and coercion. Obama did not know about this? Sure just like the Pastor. posted 05/02/2008 at 09:45:21
Obama Rolls On
EC arithmetic. Hillary runs strongest in new swing states like OH,PA,NJ,AK,TN,FL,KYandWV (113EVs/270). Obama may bring in CO and IA (16EVs/270). posted 05/02/2008 at 08:57:22
Please read the post. It demonstrates that Obama is the weaker candidate against McCain in the general election. You know the election that actually counts. posted 05/02/2008 at 08:21:55
You are kidding correct? Or are you just making this up?
Empirically, Clinton likely wins in the EC and Obama likely loses against McCain and this has not materially changed for months. Reagan Democrats are not bush voters.
The arithmetic does not add up for Obama and never has. Clinton now has real distance against McCain while Obama is behind. Here is why and from a pure numbers perspective, just like the ones that Obama supporters refer to when counting delegates btw.
EC arithmetic. Hillary runs strongest in new swing states like OH,PA,NJ,AK,TN,FL,KYandWV (113EVs/270). Obama may bring in CO and IA (16EVs/270). Clinton has a Political advantage over Obama in FL/MI representing 16% of EC. Obama is tied to the DNC decision to disenfranchise. Most importantly, Reagan Democrats and Latinos have proven they have flipped Republican recently. Clinton keeps these voters home Obama does not. True Independents will be split between Obama and McCain, progressives could flip to Nader, but the Black base in the Democratic Party has never stayed home, even though some others newly involved in the party may.
It is now structural and does not add up. Obama is a likely loser. posted 05/02/2008 at 08:18:42
Empirically, Clinton likely wins in the EC and Obama likely loses against McCain and this has not materially changed for months. Reagan Democrats are not bush voters.
The arithmetic does not add up for Obama and never has. Clinton now has real distance against McCain while Obama is behind. Here is why and from a pure numbers perspective, just like the ones that Obama supporters refer to when counting delegates btw.
EC arithmetic. Hillary runs strongest in new swing states like OH,PA,NJ,AK,TN,FL,KYandWV (113EVs/270). Obama may bring in CO and IA (16EVs/270). Clinton has a Political advantage over Obama in FL/MI representing 16% of EC. Obama is tied to the DNC decision to disenfranchise. Most importantly, Reagan Democrats and Latinos have proven they have flipped Republican recently. Clinton keeps these voters home Obama does not. True Independents will be split between Obama and McCain, progressives could flip to Nader, but the Black base in the Democratic Party has never stayed home, even though some others newly involved in the party may.
It is now structural and does not add up. Obama is a likely loser. posted 05/02/2008 at 08:18:42
Of course that is the BS Obama supporters want people to believe. When there are two candidates, the process always tightens up. No one dropped like a stone, although Obama has been on a steady downtrend since super Tuesday. posted 05/02/2008 at 08:07:15
Have you been passive aggressive all your life or just when you started supporting Obama? Obama is way left and if he is elected it will be short harsh stint just like Carter.
Although it is your right, it is bad form and lazy to paste dopey and biased links as opposed to making your own point.
1. Most large corporations donate to all candidates, so the surprise about Murdoch is no surprise or conspiracy what so ever.
2. The people most affected by NAFTA still vote for Clinton as opposed to Obama because they trust her on economic issues and remember that in the 90s over 22M new jobs were created and it raised all boats.
3. Kazakhstan is an ally. Your point? Or are you against commerce and a socialist like the old USSR?
4. Many women do not know how to pump gas.
5. Linking Clinton to Bush does not work with the voters that have been involved for more than one election cycle and will elect the next President, Reagan democrats and Latinos.
Finally, as usual another Obama supporter with nothing to say. Until Obama and his supporters give the people, a tangible reason to vote for him as opposed to against someone else the next quarter of a billion dollars he will spend will not increase his support with the American People one iota. Just as the last. Mr. Unelectable. posted 05/02/2008 at 08:04:33
Although it is your right, it is bad form and lazy to paste dopey and biased links as opposed to making your own point.
1. Most large corporations donate to all candidates, so the surprise about Murdoch is no surprise or conspiracy what so ever.
2. The people most affected by NAFTA still vote for Clinton as opposed to Obama because they trust her on economic issues and remember that in the 90s over 22M new jobs were created and it raised all boats.
3. Kazakhstan is an ally. Your point? Or are you against commerce and a socialist like the old USSR?
4. Many women do not know how to pump gas.
5. Linking Clinton to Bush does not work with the voters that have been involved for more than one election cycle and will elect the next President, Reagan democrats and Latinos.
Finally, as usual another Obama supporter with nothing to say. Until Obama and his supporters give the people, a tangible reason to vote for him as opposed to against someone else the next quarter of a billion dollars he will spend will not increase his support with the American People one iota. Just as the last. Mr. Unelectable. posted 05/02/2008 at 08:04:33
Obama rolls on. Unfortunately, the people have not. There has been only one debate since Reverend Wright and most knowledgeable people know that if this information was out sooner that there is no way he would be were he is now.
Of course, the blame goes to the DNC for putting on another process in that chooses the weaker candidate. Just ignoring the significant impact the elite comments and the Wright issues reinforces the arrogance charge to the people who are needed to win the election in the fall.
Brush it off and jam the delegates. The denial and arrogance respectively are impressive if not clinical. Clinton has run stronger against McCain that Obama for months now and is clearly the strongest candidate for the democrats to field.
Obama has united no one except for the left wing of the party. He has shown cleverness only around gaming the blatantly unequal delegate process of the party primary where in Florida and Michigan one vote equals no votes; in certain precincts one vote equals two votes; and in the caucus states, votes are exchanged and flipped so much that one vote for equals one vote against. The Republican Party on the other hand has a primary that is most like the general and has fielded their strongest candidate. This is probably why they keep winning. posted 05/02/2008 at 06:37:37
Of course, the blame goes to the DNC for putting on another process in that chooses the weaker candidate. Just ignoring the significant impact the elite comments and the Wright issues reinforces the arrogance charge to the people who are needed to win the election in the fall.
Brush it off and jam the delegates. The denial and arrogance respectively are impressive if not clinical. Clinton has run stronger against McCain that Obama for months now and is clearly the strongest candidate for the democrats to field.
Obama has united no one except for the left wing of the party. He has shown cleverness only around gaming the blatantly unequal delegate process of the party primary where in Florida and Michigan one vote equals no votes; in certain precincts one vote equals two votes; and in the caucus states, votes are exchanged and flipped so much that one vote for equals one vote against. The Republican Party on the other hand has a primary that is most like the general and has fielded their strongest candidate. This is probably why they keep winning. posted 05/02/2008 at 06:37:37
Michigan's Fake Primary Produced Fake Results
Of course, I read the piece. Whatever the actions of the candidates, it is true they BOTH are trying to win. The DNC could have fixed this when it mattered. As hard as it is for some fanatics to understand, the point I make is principled not ideological.
The DNC disenfranchised 2.3M. No one else did. They could have had a revote. They did not. The penalty was created after the fact. NH moved theirs and it was counted.
Obama fought against this principle. He was OK changing to caucus because it supported his position. How do you explain that? How else can you explain what he did?
There was no rule that said you should take your name off the ballot. The only reason he did so was to delegitimize the election alone. No other explanation makes sense.
When he did not like the DNC position on other matters, he was not altruistic.
Get a grip with reality. I know that rationalizing against democratic principle is a challenge.
The more you challenge the Clintons who are more centrist Democrats the more any Obama Presidency will be short lived, just like Carters was. posted 05/02/2008 at 08:38:06
The DNC disenfranchised 2.3M. No one else did. They could have had a revote. They did not. The penalty was created after the fact. NH moved theirs and it was counted.
Obama fought against this principle. He was OK changing to caucus because it supported his position. How do you explain that? How else can you explain what he did?
There was no rule that said you should take your name off the ballot. The only reason he did so was to delegitimize the election alone. No other explanation makes sense.
When he did not like the DNC position on other matters, he was not altruistic.
Get a grip with reality. I know that rationalizing against democratic principle is a challenge.
The more you challenge the Clintons who are more centrist Democrats the more any Obama Presidency will be short lived, just like Carters was. posted 05/02/2008 at 08:38:06
Please. If Obama wins NC Clinton has won 80% of the largest states, reflecting almost 60% of the voters. posted 05/02/2008 at 08:26:47
There is no way that any of these outcomes could ever be more accurate than a revote. Obama took his name off the ballot and that was his mistake. Four other candidates left theirs on. There was campaigning to vote uncommitted if you were for Obama. However, Obama also fought against the recount.
The only possible explanation for this is that he wanted to suppress the vote. Usually a Republican activity. This supporting the rules is complete BS, just like the Reverend, when he could have had a recount if he wanted. There was third party money ready to do it.
He did not and thus support the DNC disenfranchising Michigan as well as Florida. He deserves none of their delegates for violating a Democratic Principle. posted 05/02/2008 at 06:46:14
The only possible explanation for this is that he wanted to suppress the vote. Usually a Republican activity. This supporting the rules is complete BS, just like the Reverend, when he could have had a recount if he wanted. There was third party money ready to do it.
He did not and thus support the DNC disenfranchising Michigan as well as Florida. He deserves none of their delegates for violating a Democratic Principle. posted 05/02/2008 at 06:46:14
Howard Dean On Fox News Sunday, Dems On Competing Sunday Shows
After much thought, it is more likely that Dean is actually a power hungry buffoon than an objective and relevant leader of the DNC. Clearly, he is for Obama all along and could have forced a revote in the disenfranchised states if he wanted to.
He is simply doing the bidding of the still powerful, yet completely out of touch dinosaurs of the Democratic party, like Kennedy, Kerry, carter, Hart and Pelosi.
He only wants to seat FL and MI after the SD"s have given Obama the nomination. He came up with a ridiculous penalty for FL and MI that violates the most basic democratic principle and claimed those were the rules, when in fact the penalty was made up after the fact.
He should quite after making what would have been a straightforward process a real mess, only because he played favorites and not because he showed any semblance of leadership.
He needs to let this play out to the end. Of course, Obama needs more time to recover from the Pastor Disaster and Clinton can run for President tomorrow or any other day and win. Obama runs poorly against McCain and now Dean just wants to jam the process down everyones throat.
What a jackass. posted 05/02/2008 at 07:28:36
He is simply doing the bidding of the still powerful, yet completely out of touch dinosaurs of the Democratic party, like Kennedy, Kerry, carter, Hart and Pelosi.
He only wants to seat FL and MI after the SD"s have given Obama the nomination. He came up with a ridiculous penalty for FL and MI that violates the most basic democratic principle and claimed those were the rules, when in fact the penalty was made up after the fact.
He should quite after making what would have been a straightforward process a real mess, only because he played favorites and not because he showed any semblance of leadership.
He needs to let this play out to the end. Of course, Obama needs more time to recover from the Pastor Disaster and Clinton can run for President tomorrow or any other day and win. Obama runs poorly against McCain and now Dean just wants to jam the process down everyones throat.
What a jackass. posted 05/02/2008 at 07:28:36
The After-Math: Obama Will Be Less Than 100 Delegates from the Nomination
The problem with this logic is that the SD"s were put in place for a reason and based upon the rules; neither Obama nor Clinton will have the requisite amount of delegates to win outright. That moves the process to the next phase that normally is done at the convention when there is no clear winner. Trying to jam the decision while the primary is still underway lacks objectivity and betrays basic democratic principles of any election.
Framing the electability argument to polls alone is intellectually dishonest, even though Obama has always over polled and Clinton likely wins the general Electoral College and Obama likely loses against McCain.
The SDs are allowed to vote their conscience, for the person they believe is more electable or for any other reason. This should be done without coercion or threats.
Indeed the delegates and super delegates can choose who they feel is the stronger candidate. For example, Clinton won MA, but Kerry is going for Obama, as is his right to do so. posted 05/01/2008 at 18:26:57
Framing the electability argument to polls alone is intellectually dishonest, even though Obama has always over polled and Clinton likely wins the general Electoral College and Obama likely loses against McCain.
The SDs are allowed to vote their conscience, for the person they believe is more electable or for any other reason. This should be done without coercion or threats.
Indeed the delegates and super delegates can choose who they feel is the stronger candidate. For example, Clinton won MA, but Kerry is going for Obama, as is his right to do so. posted 05/01/2008 at 18:26:57
Clinton: Base "Broader And Deeper" Than Obama's
Yeah I agree, but I will stick with content over style. posted 05/02/2008 at 09:04:55
Dude exclaiming your ignorance in such a fashion does not mean you are 100% wrong.
Everyone knows that the Electoral College process is a winner take all primary system except for a couple of small states.
The Democrats on the other hand use a proportional system, not winner take all, and it is biased toward previous elections, not the actual vote so it over counts in some places and undercount in others. In addition, there are no real caucuses in the general, which due to excessive flip/flopping and coercion in the process, could actually count a vote for a candidate as against, a swing of two votes.
Finally, just for this year the DNC has decided that one vote in FL and MI equals to no votes on the order of 2.3 Million. They could have forced a revote but did not and thus they violated another basic democratic principle, beside majority rules, but also the one-person one vote.
Check your facts before you post. posted 05/02/2008 at 07:40:03
Everyone knows that the Electoral College process is a winner take all primary system except for a couple of small states.
The Democrats on the other hand use a proportional system, not winner take all, and it is biased toward previous elections, not the actual vote so it over counts in some places and undercount in others. In addition, there are no real caucuses in the general, which due to excessive flip/flopping and coercion in the process, could actually count a vote for a candidate as against, a swing of two votes.
Finally, just for this year the DNC has decided that one vote in FL and MI equals to no votes on the order of 2.3 Million. They could have forced a revote but did not and thus they violated another basic democratic principle, beside majority rules, but also the one-person one vote.
Check your facts before you post. posted 05/02/2008 at 07:40:03
Clinton is correct. The DNC has put a process that nominates the weaker candidate. Clinton has run stronger in the Electoral College against Obama for months against McCain and yes, if the DNC process were like the Republicans she would in fact already have clinched the nomination.
The 800 gorilla in the room that the Obama campaign arrogantly ignores is that the Republican Process is most like the general election that actually elects the President. For all the cheerleading around Obama, it is as if the DNC put on a tournament to find the best checkers player in the party. Then they enter that person into a Chess match.
Nice. posted 05/02/2008 at 06:52:47
The 800 gorilla in the room that the Obama campaign arrogantly ignores is that the Republican Process is most like the general election that actually elects the President. For all the cheerleading around Obama, it is as if the DNC put on a tournament to find the best checkers player in the party. Then they enter that person into a Chess match.
Nice. posted 05/02/2008 at 06:52:47
Sidney Blumenthal Uses Former Right-Wing Foes To Attack Obama
It is only relevant since she said, I was never proud to be an American until recently. Just like Obama saying he never heard the Rev say those things when obviously he did and knew (lie?), Michelle needs to explain why she is not really an angry person that is unpatriotic toward America.
If she did not say those things in public then it would not matter. Why would they hide it now when the Pubs are going to have a field day with it later anyway? Wright should have been vetted a year ago and they tried to cover that up.
This is only setting himself up to blow up again. posted 05/02/2008 at 09:10:27
If she did not say those things in public then it would not matter. Why would they hide it now when the Pubs are going to have a field day with it later anyway? Wright should have been vetted a year ago and they tried to cover that up.
This is only setting himself up to blow up again. posted 05/02/2008 at 09:10:27
Rev Wright. Obviously. posted 05/02/2008 at 09:09:13
Obama is doing plenty to torpedo his nomination without any help from others, thank you.
Sounds like another deflection away from his issues so he can try to blame Clinton for the fact that he was unvetted and his campaign tried to keep mum the Pastor disaster.
Then he lied about it.
Will Clinton be to blame once the republicans locate to distribute Michelle Obamas senior thesis that Obama has purposely covered up and removed from public display? posted 05/02/2008 at 07:06:01
Sounds like another deflection away from his issues so he can try to blame Clinton for the fact that he was unvetted and his campaign tried to keep mum the Pastor disaster.
Then he lied about it.
Will Clinton be to blame once the republicans locate to distribute Michelle Obamas senior thesis that Obama has purposely covered up and removed from public display? posted 05/02/2008 at 07:06:01
On My Switch From Clinton to Obama
Have you been passive aggressive all your life or just when you started supporting Obama? Obama is way left and if he is elected it will be short harsh stint just like Carter. posted 05/02/2008 at 07:50:01
Joe,
You can of course flip over to the other side. Please also support others who flip from Obama to Clinton without coercion, pressure or penalty of any kind. From Super Delegates to the Delegates themselves as they are allowed to by party rules.
While at the Obama campaign you can also address why the Democratic Party always seems to nominate the weaker candidates to run against the republicans.
All the best to you. posted 05/02/2008 at 06:57:46
You can of course flip over to the other side. Please also support others who flip from Obama to Clinton without coercion, pressure or penalty of any kind. From Super Delegates to the Delegates themselves as they are allowed to by party rules.
While at the Obama campaign you can also address why the Democratic Party always seems to nominate the weaker candidates to run against the republicans.
All the best to you. posted 05/02/2008 at 06:57:46
Poll: Clinton Beats McCain In Florida, Pennsylvania, Ohio
Well it looks like Obama lied about the Pastor and Selma. posted 05/02/2008 at 09:30:38
We predicted the same months ago with a behavior based model and Kantinflas is largely accurate regarding battleground states so who cares where it comes from if it is accurate?
You can check my old posts.
In fact, our model now has distance growing between Clinton and McCain while Obama is going the other way. Obama peaked on Super Tuesday and has been trending down ever since, presumable as people get to know him better, confirming another one of our predictions that Clinton negatives are built in and would have little affect on whether people would vote for her while Obamas negatives can only grow worse.
There is not a prediction yet that Clinton definitely wins over McCain, BUT she runs much stronger than Obama, who is clearly the weaker candidate based upon empirical analysis and not wishful thinking. Or Hope for that matter (sorry couldnt resist).
Today we have Clinton with over 300 EVs against McCain while McCain already has more than 270 against Obama. 270 clinches the next President of the United States. posted 05/02/2008 at 09:27:05
You can check my old posts.
In fact, our model now has distance growing between Clinton and McCain while Obama is going the other way. Obama peaked on Super Tuesday and has been trending down ever since, presumable as people get to know him better, confirming another one of our predictions that Clinton negatives are built in and would have little affect on whether people would vote for her while Obamas negatives can only grow worse.
There is not a prediction yet that Clinton definitely wins over McCain, BUT she runs much stronger than Obama, who is clearly the weaker candidate based upon empirical analysis and not wishful thinking. Or Hope for that matter (sorry couldnt resist).
Today we have Clinton with over 300 EVs against McCain while McCain already has more than 270 against Obama. 270 clinches the next President of the United States. posted 05/02/2008 at 09:27:05
EC arithmetic. Hillary runs strongest in new swing states like OH,PA,NJ,AK,TN,FL,KYandWV (113EVs/270). Obama may bring in CO and IA (16EVs/270). Clinton has a Political advantage over Obama in FL/MI representing 16% of EC. This has not changed for MONTHS and Obama has spent almost a quarter of a BILLION dollars.
Content over style. Clinton performs and delivers. Obama simply could never equal the depth of Clinton when dealing with people already predisposed to their positions.
Just as the debates, she was straightforward with FOX and the longer the interview went on the better she looked. Mano a mano, you just see the excellence in Clinton. She must be the type of person you would want as President. No one can mess with her; she knows all the details and will not make stupid or rookie mistakes in the White House.
Scripted Obama turns mealy mouth in debates and takes forever to answer even the simplest question. His unending numbers of surrogates then scramble to correct his statements, often with absurd rationalizations. He is just not quick on his feet, which would be fine in any other job.
So very many issues and problems come up every day as President the country simply cannot afford on the job training for Obama, whether it is foreign policy, the economy, health care or defense. The list goes on.
What in the heck are we thinking that Obama is even a shadow of Clinton. posted 05/02/2008 at 09:15:40
Content over style. Clinton performs and delivers. Obama simply could never equal the depth of Clinton when dealing with people already predisposed to their positions.
Just as the debates, she was straightforward with FOX and the longer the interview went on the better she looked. Mano a mano, you just see the excellence in Clinton. She must be the type of person you would want as President. No one can mess with her; she knows all the details and will not make stupid or rookie mistakes in the White House.
Scripted Obama turns mealy mouth in debates and takes forever to answer even the simplest question. His unending numbers of surrogates then scramble to correct his statements, often with absurd rationalizations. He is just not quick on his feet, which would be fine in any other job.
So very many issues and problems come up every day as President the country simply cannot afford on the job training for Obama, whether it is foreign policy, the economy, health care or defense. The list goes on.
What in the heck are we thinking that Obama is even a shadow of Clinton. posted 05/02/2008 at 09:15:40
Listen. The numbers do not lie. It is increasing clear that a vote for Obama is a vote for McBush. posted 05/01/2008 at 11:27:27
Behind The Scenes Of The Obama-Wright Split
So, they are sad because they were publicly discovered as being frauds.
Yes, that is sad, except we are talking about the POTUS!
Get a grip. The Presidency is serious business and this should have been vetted a year ago. Between this blow up and the foreign relations disasters the Obama campaign created (before he was even President) people must take notice that he would be disastrous as President.
He has only unified the far left of the Democratic Party and has never given anyone a tangible reason to vote for him as opposed to against someone else.
Typical politician, of course. Inexperienced Obviously.
Stop the Insanity! posted 05/02/2008 at 08:51:56
Yes, that is sad, except we are talking about the POTUS!
Get a grip. The Presidency is serious business and this should have been vetted a year ago. Between this blow up and the foreign relations disasters the Obama campaign created (before he was even President) people must take notice that he would be disastrous as President.
He has only unified the far left of the Democratic Party and has never given anyone a tangible reason to vote for him as opposed to against someone else.
Typical politician, of course. Inexperienced Obviously.
Stop the Insanity! posted 05/02/2008 at 08:51:56
Clinton's Gas Tax Plan Called 'Ineffective', 'Shortsighted'
Thanks for the nice comments. You cannot have it both ways. If you bring the Clinton Administration into the debate then you must give credit for all the good things that happened.
In addition, for the dopes that do not know, the Gore and the Clinton administration policies laid the groundwork to commercialize DARPA and making the Internet what it is today. With all the good and the all the bad, like the dope uninformed hysteria seen sometimes on Huff PO. posted 05/01/2008 at 11:15:51
In addition, for the dopes that do not know, the Gore and the Clinton administration policies laid the groundwork to commercialize DARPA and making the Internet what it is today. With all the good and the all the bad, like the dope uninformed hysteria seen sometimes on Huff PO. posted 05/01/2008 at 11:15:51
These are Obamas scare tactic talking points almost verbatim.
Completely false since there is no way this will ever cost jobs or programs.
Also false is that this is Clintons policy position.
The Federal budget is not separate buckets as you falsely present. This will add to the debt just like the stimulus package that Obama voted for.
Frankly, Obama is making up an issue to deflect from the Pastor Disaster. posted 05/01/2008 at 11:11:25
Completely false since there is no way this will ever cost jobs or programs.
Also false is that this is Clintons policy position.
The Federal budget is not separate buckets as you falsely present. This will add to the debt just like the stimulus package that Obama voted for.
Frankly, Obama is making up an issue to deflect from the Pastor Disaster. posted 05/01/2008 at 11:11:25
Too many poli-sci classes? You need to do you own homework on what happened in the 90s. Better still why dont you read Bob Rubins book?
It is generally agreed that the person and administration in power is responsible for the economy.
Listen please get your facts straight.
1. There is no pay-go and the stimulus package is not paid for as well.
2. The tax relief is not a substitute for policy it is to lighten the load on the consumer, just like the stimulus package.
Obama politics does not work well with facts and numbers and the success of the Clinton administration in the 90s.
Obama will lose on this stupid issue because he is still only talking. posted 05/01/2008 at 10:53:16
It is generally agreed that the person and administration in power is responsible for the economy.
Listen please get your facts straight.
1. There is no pay-go and the stimulus package is not paid for as well.
2. The tax relief is not a substitute for policy it is to lighten the load on the consumer, just like the stimulus package.
Obama politics does not work well with facts and numbers and the success of the Clinton administration in the 90s.
Obama will lose on this stupid issue because he is still only talking. posted 05/01/2008 at 10:53:16
Yep. Just like Obama is only words today, these economists and pundits are full of crap and they have been for years. Anyone paying attention would know that.
We do not need another manufactured personality as President. posted 05/01/2008 at 10:46:14
We do not need another manufactured personality as President. posted 05/01/2008 at 10:46:14
Clinton has never said that her gas policy is limited to economic relief for consumers. This works no differently than the economic stimulus package that Obama already voted for. In addition, it can be done quickly.
These are the same arguments that academics and economist made regarding the Clinton economic policies in the 90s. To the surprise of all the so-called experts over 22M jobs were created, a budget surplus and shrinking debt.
And by the way, a barrel of oil was roughly 10% of what it is today!
So again, Clinton (Results) is so much better than Obama (Speak) for the American people that does nothing. posted 05/01/2008 at 09:40:01
These are the same arguments that academics and economist made regarding the Clinton economic policies in the 90s. To the surprise of all the so-called experts over 22M jobs were created, a budget surplus and shrinking debt.
And by the way, a barrel of oil was roughly 10% of what it is today!
So again, Clinton (Results) is so much better than Obama (Speak) for the American people that does nothing. posted 05/01/2008 at 09:40:01
Obama & McCain: Delusional Spiritual Ally Test
This is a nice try but you cannot make a silk purse out of a sows ear. Just as you cannot, with a straight face say that these pastor relationships are even remotely equivalent.
If Wright was, simply supporting Obama for President, it would raise eyebrows but in the end, have about the same impact as those other nut jobs would have on a candidate.
Unfortunately, for Obama we now know that Obama (lied?) sat in the pews for 20 years and Wright has always been, exactly how he was presented in the clips. He married Obama and his wife and he christened his children. Obama titled and dedicated his book to Wright.
This is a serious question of Judgment, Credibility and Character with Obama. Lastly the Preacher said he will follow Obama to Washington to ensure (extort?) his Black Liberation Theology of hate and anti Americanism infects his policy and administration. posted 05/01/2008 at 08:39:12
If Wright was, simply supporting Obama for President, it would raise eyebrows but in the end, have about the same impact as those other nut jobs would have on a candidate.
Unfortunately, for Obama we now know that Obama (lied?) sat in the pews for 20 years and Wright has always been, exactly how he was presented in the clips. He married Obama and his wife and he christened his children. Obama titled and dedicated his book to Wright.
This is a serious question of Judgment, Credibility and Character with Obama. Lastly the Preacher said he will follow Obama to Washington to ensure (extort?) his Black Liberation Theology of hate and anti Americanism infects his policy and administration. posted 05/01/2008 at 08:39:12
Iran Condemns Clinton For "Obliterate" Comments
Dont be ridiculous. She was answering the question, what if Iran nuked Israel.
It was the correct answer to a stupid question. posted 05/02/2008 at 09:40:44
It was the correct answer to a stupid question. posted 05/02/2008 at 09:40:44
I think the hypothetical question was what if Iran nuked Israel. The answer was correct since Israel is so small that a Nuked Israeli would be obliterated for sure. This is the same policy that kept the US or Russia from launching a first strike and kept us safe through a 50-year cold war.
The Presidency is serious business. Obama would be tested in ways that Clinton would never be. This is the world and that is a fact and will not change. A strong deterrence keeps us safe just as allying with many countries does, another strong point for Clinton on foreign policy, especially since Obama has blundered time and time on that subject as well. posted 05/01/2008 at 08:27:01
The Presidency is serious business. Obama would be tested in ways that Clinton would never be. This is the world and that is a fact and will not change. A strong deterrence keeps us safe just as allying with many countries does, another strong point for Clinton on foreign policy, especially since Obama has blundered time and time on that subject as well. posted 05/01/2008 at 08:27:01
Hillary Clinton And Bill O'Reilly Square Off On The Factor: Watch Video
Please. She knows about the issues that matter to the people. Obama simply attacks and has not given anyone a tangible reason to vote for him as opposed to against someone else. posted 05/01/2008 at 09:52:49
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If she stays in, more people will have pulled the lever for Clinton that any other person in any other primary in history. Gore?
If she steps down, it would hold the DNC unaccountable for screwing up the primary and Obama for taking his name off the ballot in MI.
This uniting the party rhetoric is BS also used by Obama when he said he could unite the country and even the world. He did not unite anyone except the black vote (wow that was hard!) and activists that are not true Democrats anyhow.
The party is the party. The people are the people. Count all the votes. Let the process continue until someone clinches the nomination. If the DNC has politically embarrassing baggage, so be it. Jamming the decision is exactly the wrong thing to do.
If Obama is the nominee, we will test the notion again, for the nth time, whether a non-centrist Democrat could ever win the Presidency. If it does not happen this time, with all of the advantages, it never will. This should send a clear message to the self-destructive DNC establishment leaders like Dean, Kennedy, Hart, Carter, Bradley, Pelosi and Braziles to step down and get the heck out of the way. Let more centrists run things like the Clinton camp. posted 05/08/2008 at 18:35:20