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It's when McCain uses lies and smears to make his supposed point that Obama supporters get upset. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? posted 05/15/2008 at 21:14:19

Mattie, your bitterness is very unattractive. It will eat you up if you don't let it go. posted 05/15/2008 at 21:38:49

Very well said. I agree with you completely. It is unbelievable that a little known senator from Illinois could beat the best known Democrat in the country - the two of them because make no mistake, millions of those votes for Hillary were actually for Bill - who had the whole party machinery behind her and all the big donors. It shows how badly she ran her campaign and conversely, how well Barack ran his. It also shows that his message of new politics is what the country wants.

All these bitter bitter women who are ranting about how unfairly Hillary has been treated really have their blinders on. As a woman, I'm embarrassed to read a lot of their posts. Barack has a superlative record on women's rights....and for equal rights for all. He'll be an excellent president and will look after the concerns of his wife and his sister and his daughters as well as all other women in the country. posted 05/15/2008 at 21:37:52

He didn't convert. What are you implying he converted from? He grew up in a non-religious household. His mother and father were both agnostic and religion of any kind was simply not a factor in his youth. He started going to church on his own when he was living and working in Chicago and saw how important faith was to many of the people he worked with and for. posted 05/14/2008 at 23:15:32

"Does anyone wonder why women who support Hillary Clinton for president get (excuse the vernacular) PO'd at some of our fellow Democrats?"

Does anyone wonder why women who don't support Hillary Clinton get PO'd at some of our fellow women? I'm embarrassed at the way the Hillary supporters try to find every excuse under the sun to blame Hillary's lack of success on anything but her own shortcomings. posted 05/15/2008 at 00:51:55

Michelle is a wonderful, bright, accomplished woman. You are so right how unfair the media has been to her. posted 05/14/2008 at 06:26:26

Let's all hope that the next time a 'Hillary Clinton' comes along it will be a woman of integrity and honot that all people can get behind because they're the best candidate. People aren't voting overwhelmingly for Barack just because he's black, they're voting for him because they believe he's the right person for the job.

How sad that you think gender is more important than capability. Women will never get to the top of the heap if you continue to push flawed candidates just because they're women. Push for women, for sure, but demand that they meet the same criteria as you'd demand of any person. And by the way, I'm a woman who has fought many many feminist battles over the years. posted 05/14/2008 at 06:21:24

Speak for yourself. posted 05/14/2008 at 07:01:15

"republicans are racists and sexists. Americans are so gullable."

How many Republicans in congress and the senate, or even in the governor's houses, are black or brown or anything but white male? Yeah, those republicans are so inclusive and welcoming. posted 05/08/2008 at 02:54:58

You're lucky you're obviously a white person. Blacks and browns and many other ethnic groups don't have a choice about revealing their race - they wear it every day. And yes, many of them are lumped, labeled and stereotyped. So please don't be so hypocritical by saying if you don't like labels, don't label yourself. posted 05/08/2008 at 02:51:37

Amen. Couldn't have said it better myself SouthFloridaDem. posted 05/07/2008 at 23:25:54

Hah! Fat chance any of those questions will ever be asked! posted 05/03/2008 at 21:36:57

"Earl Ofari Hutchinson is an author and political analyst."

This blurb at the bottom of your post made me laugh out loud. Hope you don't depend on your income as a political analyst because your analysis is so off the wall it's ludicrous. I'm afraid this long campaign is making you lose your grip on reality. posted 05/03/2008 at 20:40:40

Sounds like a pretty accurate assessment to me. Something's wrong with the woman, that's for sure. posted 05/03/2008 at 06:57:37

Barack definitely needs to make an ad with Jean. She's a tiger. Don't you just love her? posted 05/03/2008 at 07:45:58

"Obama finally broke and started ridiculous ads saying that she would force people WHO CAN'T AFFORD health care to buy it. That's just not true. It's a lie. It's false."

C'mon. Do your homework. It's not a lie. It's not false. Hillary will mandate everyone to purchase health insurance. Mandate means forcing people to buy it. She even said on tv that the penalty for not purchasing insurance may include garnishing someone's wages. Massachusetts has a mandate and they apply penalties on people's tax returns if they don't have insurance. So, yes, Obama's ads were truthful. She will force people who can't afford health care to buy it. Obama's plan will not. posted 05/03/2008 at 07:12:32

Oh stop it. Obama has an excellent record on gay rights. He walks the walk, doesn't just talk the talk. He's adamantly for equal rights for everyone regardless of gender or race or sexual preference. posted 04/28/2008 at 21:54:30

And when exactly are all these supers going to start endorsing her? In case you haven't noticed, since February Obama has gotten more than 80 and Hill's gotten 5. Yes, those numbers are correct. 80 for Obama, 5 for Hillary. Just another category she's getting beaten in, and gotten beaten badly. Hill hasn't got a hope. posted 04/27/2008 at 00:20:46

I understand what you're saying bobdob. I am a huge Obama supporter and was one of those who sought out Wright's full sermons because I believed that if Obama chose him to be his pastor, he must be a very good man. I was furious with how the MSM distorted those clips and slimed Barack by playing them over and over and over again.

As brilliant as I think Obama is, and as wonderfully as he has run his campaign, I was a little disappointed in how strongly he disavowed Rev Wright's comments. I really would have liked him to have called out the media for the hackjob they were doing on his pastor. I could understand the political way Obama was handling this, but like you say, I think he could have defended him better. Especially after seeing the interview tonight. posted 04/26/2008 at 06:14:42

You're right. Most people have no time to do Limpball's moronic deeds for him but your state of Texas proves that it happened. Hillary wins (barely) the popular vote in Texas, but when it came time for these Hillary voters to actually spend hours at the caucus, it didn't happen. Now, Barack has a well-honed get out the vote ground game and was probably going to do better at the caucus anyway, but the reduction in the number of Hillary caucus goers compared to the number of Hillary voters implies that there was indeed some hanky panky going on. posted 04/26/2008 at 06:50:10

"The pundits are turning against him, which means superdelegates could soon follow. "

That is probably one of the most depressing, ridiculous things you've written. So the nominee is now going to be chosen by the pundits? We should now be getting ourselves into a major tizzy because, OMG, the pundits have spoken? God help us all. posted 04/27/2008 at 05:37:11

Bravo Adam! One of the best pieces I've read. Every single word is, sadly, oh so true. posted 04/27/2008 at 06:05:43

You're right. Barack has often provided details of his vision, plus details of economic plans, plus details of foreign policy, plus details of his education plan, etc etc etc. He's every bit as wonky as Hillary and has the added benefit of being able to give an inspirational speech. But have you seen any of that wonkyness covered by the MSM? They've controlled (unfortunately) the message that has gotten out to the general public and then have the cojones to have pundits sit there for hours on end talking about his lack of specifics!!!

You mention a couple of good possibilities, but did you know he's already had forums on a number of issues? Bet you didn't, nor does the rest of the American public. They've gotten such minimal media attention, people don't realize how brilliant he is and what amazing people he has advising him in these areas. But yeah, maybe he could buy an hour of tv and cover himself! posted 04/26/2008 at 07:02:35

Jack Cafferty is the only guy worth watching on CNN these days. He tells it like it is. posted 04/26/2008 at 07:09:14

Well then, that tells you that Obama has a lot of supporters. Clinton's negatives are approaching Geo Bush stratoshphere. A lllloooootttttt of people dislike her. posted 04/25/2008 at 05:47:58

"But would she still be in this race if she wasn't a woman? My guess is no."

Bingo.

Would she be in the race at all if her name was Smith instead of Clinton? I don't even have to guess at the answer to that one either. posted 04/23/2008 at 02:53:17

So what you're saying is that is perfectly fine for Hillary to be doing the slurring of Obama but if someone points out the flimsy basis for her slurring, that's hypocritical? Okie dokie.

The truth of the exit polls about the low information/low education of Hillary's supporters is borne out more and more everyday. posted 04/23/2008 at 02:31:09

Hahahahahahahaha!!!!!

Can I have some of what you're smokin'? posted 04/23/2008 at 02:44:54

"will tell Obama supporters their tactics only work in caucuses where intimidation and strong-arm tactics are effective."

Gee. Why has Obama won more primaries than Hillary if he can only win caucuses?

Whiner. posted 04/20/2008 at 18:25:42

Very well said MariaHopeful. I know who appeals to me. posted 04/19/2008 at 04:02:56

Maybe some voters disagree with Obama, but more are disgusted with Clinton. Check the Gallup national poll. Obama's stayed the same but Clinton has gone down in the poll and their polling covers Friday, Saturday and Sunday, the days when she was making the most noise about it. She's done, gone, becoming more disliked by the day. posted 04/15/2008 at 02:15:11

"I believe Americans are smart enough to know that statements need to be placed in their proper context. Once the read the entire Q&A from this fundraiser and they'll see that his answer encompassed the broader question of why Mid Americans vote republican."

Sure most Americans are smart enough. But how many of them are going to read the entire Q&A? They're not going to see it in their newspaper. Even most of the mainstream pundits in their blogs are editing it to fit their own agendas. They sure aren't going to hear it on tv. The media has been disgusting in its coverage of this whole mess. posted 04/15/2008 at 02:11:46

"Sidley-Austin LLP, for example, Michelle Obama's former law firm. It is the sixth largest law firm in the world with over a billion in revenues, a Fortune 500 client list, and over 600 lawyers of which some 250 are registered lobbyists. But Obama is cleverly deceitful on this."

Oh good grief. You're really stretching now. Michelle worked at Sidley Austin before she was even married which is nearly twenty years ago now. Yeah, that Barack, so deceitful. posted 04/15/2008 at 02:43:08

I didn't watch much of Clinton because I can't stand the sound of her voice any more but the few bits I saw, she seemed to be looking down her nose at the audience. When I watched Barack's portion I was pleasantly surprised by all the applause he got because I didn't think Hillary had gotten much from the little I saw. I honestly think she and all the pundits are going to be very surprised that it's Barack that comes out of this the strongest. People understand what he was trying to say and they also understand that Hillary is just flinging political feces. posted 04/13/2008 at 23:47:30

Well gee, maybe if the troops were pulled out from their occupation of Iraq, they wouldn't be getting killed by Iranian backed forces. Why the hell can't you war mongers see that if the U.S. wasn't in this illegal war in Iraq, the Iranians wouldn't be fighting to get us out. posted 04/14/2008 at 02:50:19

He may have said that but does he really think Iran is going to say 'oh, ok, we'd better smarten up because big ole W is bombing us.' Of course Iran is then going to retaliate and then, guess what, we're in the middle of a huge middle east war. Of course, I wouldn't expect W and Cheney to think rationally like that so Buchanan could well be right. posted 04/14/2008 at 02:47:41

Duh, he wants to expand the military so that there is enough personnel to handle the commitments America now has without sending the same exhausted troops back three and four times. He's looking out for the wellbeing of the men and women now in the military, he's not looking to start anything new. posted 04/14/2008 at 02:42:11

Well, I don't know if you're 'feeble minds' or not but the fact is that exit polls show it's low information/low education people that are voting for Hillary. That data is sure proven by posts on various forums. posted 04/12/2008 at 23:33:58

Obama's problem is that he speaks adult grown up language and assumes that his listeners are intelligent enough to understand his trains of thought without him having to get out the crayolas and draw them a picture. Fortunately, to date, more millions of people and voters and delegates are in fact intelligent enough to understand what he's saying. It's scary to read some of the posts from people who have such trouble figuring out nuanced thinking and speaking but I guess that's why Hillary's still hanging on in this contest if only by the slenderest of threads. posted 04/13/2008 at 01:02:54

I agree dtd. I'd like to see the campaign focus on it more too. Michelle is an extremely effective speaker and she goes into Barack's background in much more detail and it goes over very very well with audiences. Oh well, I guess there are only so many hours in a day and so many speeches he can give and he has to get his focal point of change out there too. posted 04/13/2008 at 00:57:14

Great idea!! posted 04/13/2008 at 01:17:30

I too wish he hadn't apologized. His first speech last night was terrific when he showed some passion and anger - 'I'm out of touch? I"M out of touch???" It was exactly the right tone and it's too bad that for political reasons he dialed it down. I personally think the anger would have been very effective if he had kept it up, but I'm not on the ground with his team and I'm not hearing the feedback he's getting, I'm only speaking about what worked very well with me. posted 04/13/2008 at 01:16:55

Yup - it's this week's talking points. Just check out Hillaryis44 and similar blogs and they're proud of sending their folks out to spread this kind of garbage. You can always tell. Very seldom are the Hillary posters able to conduct a civilized intelligent discussion about the merits of their candidate. It's all cut and paste of the same tripe. posted 04/13/2008 at 00:12:58

MikeBo8 - how can you be so brain dead to not see the idiocy of what you just posted???? McCain is a republican. He and his 527 buddies are going to prattle any kind of slime they can to beat Obama. The point is, Clinton is SUPPOSED to be a Democrat, and yet you have no problem with any slime she may fling against a fellow Democrat just to get elected. How terribly sad this whole election cycle has become that a few people are actually cheering for someone like Clinton and her antics. posted 04/13/2008 at 00:09:48

She was in NY with Bill who was having open heart surgery. Hey, I dislike Clinton as much as anybody and deplore the tactics she is using against Barack, but fair is fair and she had a pretty good excuse to miss the vote. posted 04/12/2008 at 21:41:19

I know! It's just amazing how CNN is playing this. OBAMA SCREWS UP. CAN HE SURVIVE???? OBAMA SAYS GUN OWNERS ARE BITTER!!!! John King did his damndest to get Tom Daschle to admit that Obama made a mistake tonight. Daschle said politely that it was the press that was making the mistake, getting it all wrong, but of course King wouldn't acknowledge his comment. I can watch this garbage and get upset at how much they're skewing the story but what about all the people who don't bother to check the internet, the ones who just watch a tv program and mistakenly think they're getting the 'news'. It really is a national crime how the MSM is conducting themselves these days when Bush's torture meetings can go unreported and McCain's flipflopping is ignored and Clinton's campaign talking points become the subject of hours of discussion. posted 04/13/2008 at 00:53:08

It really does boggle the mind, doesn't it seattleblogger? Where do these people get some of their ideas from? These same people who claim Hillary shouldn't be responsible for the loony things her HUSBAND says (and gets paid millions of dollars to say) but somehow Barack is to be held to task for whatever his pastor said. Mind boggling. (And of course that doesn't even take into account the fact that Rev Wright's words have been totally twisted whereas Bill Clinton's rantings are played in full by the MSM.) posted 04/13/2008 at 00:38:20

suzmad2, I agree with you completely. I have to mute Lou Dobbs even when he's just doing a promo for his upcoming show - I cannot even tolerate the sound of his voice. But the sad this is, they're not losing money. This primary has been a bonanza for them. The cable news shows have never had so many viewers. And you know what is saddest of all? Lou Dobbs is the highest rated show on CNN. Yes. The highest rated.

The irony is just rich. He's gotten his ratings by ranting about the forgotten middle class and how hard done by they are. And yet when Barack Obama expresses a similar sentiment, that middle class America has been left behind and they have good reason to be angry, Dobbs completely twists the message and distorts his words accuses Obama of being elistist. It is just too mind boggling for words. posted 04/13/2008 at 00:33:18

"Michelle Obama was recently maintaining a low profile. "

No she wasn't. She has been out there campaigning as hard as she ever did. Just because the MSM doesn't show her appearances every day like they do Bill and Chelsea, doesn't mean she isn't working very hard. Barack is not only working against the established Democratic party machine, the corporate world that wants to keep their seat in the white house with McCain and Clinton, the name recognition of a former president, but he's also up against the free publicity machine the MSM gives to all the Clintons. Plus he's up against a goodly portion of 50% of the population who, like you, thinks a woman, any woman, should be in the white house. In a normal year, against normal opposition, Obama would have wrapped up this nomination months ago. That he's ahead and very likely going to finish Hillary off in the next couple of weeks is one of the most amazing political stories of all time. posted 04/12/2008 at 22:21:45

Wrong. Obama has been to Europe.

Disagree with his policies all you want but, please, don't post lies about him. posted 04/12/2008 at 23:10:49

Geez, what part of the word 'context' don't you understand? Of course the church had no problem putting Rev Wright's sermons out there on DVD. Because the snippet that you saw and is played over and over again is only a few words taken from a complete speech that preached love and forgiveness.

And Sen Obama has faith enough of America is intelligent enough to understand a complete sentence and not to fall for a FOX hatchet job. Fortunately, Sen Obama is correct and that' s why, as much as Clinton and her axemen try to make something out of Rev Wright, it's not working. posted 04/09/2008 at 22:50:19

"I am a strong supporter of and a substantial fundraiser for Hillary Clinton for president (though in this column I speak only for myself)."

Lanny, Lanny, Lanny. How come it's so difficult for you to grasp that Wright wasn't speaking for Obama either? That Wright was speaking for himself too. You're saying some pretty stupid things in this op-ed. Good thing you're only speaking for yourself. posted 04/09/2008 at 22:42:45

It's a common complaint but I don't think he hates Hillary at all. He gets so wound up in the politics and policies of various politicians, he often blurts dumb things. But the thing is, he blurts dumb things about everyone at one time or another. I've certainly heard him say some things about Obama that I find very grating but then he turns around the next minute and says something worshipful. I find he does the same thing with Hillary. He has certainly given her many glowing compliments but Hillary and all her supporters are so deep into their victimization, they never hear the good things he says. posted 04/09/2008 at 05:33:30

livesimply, you said it all. All the americans on this blog should asked the Iraqi people how they feel about having their country blown up around them. Their opinions would likely surprise the posters. They want the Americans out of there yesterday. posted 04/09/2008 at 05:26:58

Geez. Why isn't all this stuff big news in the mainstream media. Good lord. Obama is excoriated for comments made by UNPAID advisors and Hillary is married to advisors with incredibly worse track records. Or paying them $10m to run her campaign. Incredible how she gets away with it and then has the nerve to say she's not treated fairly by the press. Absolutely mind boggling. posted 04/09/2008 at 05:49:24

And her license to practice law was suspended three or four years ago when she didn't keep up with the ongoing education requirement. Can't have a non-lawyer on the supreme court. So one of them suspended and the other one disbarred. Way to go Clintons. posted 04/09/2008 at 06:36:02

It's going to be so much fun being smug in November when Obama wins in a landslide! posted 04/09/2008 at 06:33:27

There are none so blind as those who will not see. It's sad that you are so blinded by hate or whatever that you can't educate yourself to learn that the 'personal baggage' you list is lies and mistruths. posted 04/09/2008 at 05:10:24

Najam, Wright didn't give Farrakhan an award. A magazine which Wright's daughter edits gave him some kind of award. That is the only connection but of course, a little untruth never stopped these people from spouting off before. And the award was given for Farrakhan's work in the inner city neighborhoods. Again, that side of the story is never mentioned but Farrakhan does a lot of social work for the needy, particularly in running programs which help young men coming out of prison adjust to society amongst many other programs to help the needy. posted 04/03/2008 at 02:32:20

FJRinLA, it makes my heart hurt to even read Patton's words. I can't imagine how it makes you feel. And to have people, 60 years later, still express similar opinions is just too sad. Oh how I hope Obama wins this election and that his dignity and elegance and intelligence makes people open their minds and hearts to the equality of all people. posted 04/03/2008 at 02:23:46

Amen.

And I'm a white woman. posted 04/03/2008 at 02:58:58

"No matter what Senator Obama says, these comments sound condescending to Senator Clinton's supporters, as though it is his race and he can determine who stays in or not."


Get over yourselves already.


I have never in my life seen such victimization. Hillary and her supporters are truly pathetic.


By the way, I'm a white woman of Hillary's age and I'm embarrassed by her and her behavior as if reflects very badly on other women to be such whiners. posted 04/03/2008 at 02:42:09

"He doesn't have the votes. Hillary doesn't have the votes."

Ahh, but Barack has way more votes than Hillary. And more delegates, and more states wons. In the end, the one who comes out ahead is the winner. And more and more supers are coming out everyday to make Barack's victory even more emphatic. Deal with it. posted 03/29/2008 at 22:28:41

Give me a break. Hillary was the one who called for a horde of lawyers to show up at the caucuses to create as much mischief as possible. There are tons of stories out there about how the Clintonites are causing disruptions at the caucuses. To be fair, there are also lots of stories about how well the two sides are getting along in some of them. You're just sore because she's losing even worse than she did on election night. posted 03/29/2008 at 22:26:24

You Hillary supporters with your constant crying about misogyny and sexism are so tiresome. Barack has been surrounded by strong women all his life - his grandmother, his mother, his sister, his wife, his daughters. Yeah, he really hates women. Face it, Hillary is losing because she's not very likeable, not because she's a woman. posted 03/29/2008 at 22:22:27

Thanks for posting that video. It brought tears to my eyes listening to those kids speak of hope and a future. Bless that teacher too, for introducing them to the politics of hope. Barack is already making a difference. Just imagine what he'll be able to do when he's president. posted 03/29/2008 at 23:23:24

Boy Ann. What I think has been lost is your reality. Obama can't win a primary? Sorry, Toots, he's won more than Clinton. Nasty p.r. campaign? Don't think it was him that said he was going to throw the kitchen sink at her. Just because you don't like what the increasing number of superdelegates are saying doesn't mean it's nasty. It's the truth. She can't win. Hasn't a hope. She's far behind in delegates, votes and states and since February, he's gotten the support of 60+ super delegates while she's had a net loss. I don't think 'that bunch' has ever had your support so no big deal. He's doing just fine without it. posted 03/30/2008 at 02:13:47

But the point everyone seems to be forgetting is that Rev Wright ISN'T running for office. Barack Obama is running for office. Judge him on what he said himself, not what another man said. posted 03/28/2008 at 00:10:07

The height of irony. Peck says ""There were seeds of truth to what he said but he blasted them out of proportion from the clips I have seen." Yet he doesn't see that the clips he saw were 'blasted out of proportion' to Wright's complete sermon. They are so blind, those who will not see. posted 03/27/2008 at 05:38:21

"Do we really want to subject ourselves to this verbal abuse for the next four years?"

HELL NO!!!!! posted 03/27/2008 at 06:14:57

Is reading a problem for you? Maybe understanding the written word is. What part of 'a plan that you talk about in 2007 might not be exactly what you'll do in 2009 after events have likely changed' is so difficult to comprehend? You Clintonites just parrot Hillary's talking points without even stopping to think about whether you're making any sense or not. Usually you're not. posted 03/27/2008 at 05:45:41

You and Bill and Hillary and all her supporters and campaign workers have repeated the lie that the big bad mean old press has been picking on Hillary for so long and so often, you all now believe it. You just can't seem to figure out and accept that there have been been a lot of positive stories about Barack Obama because there have been so many positive things happen to him and his campaign.


Many months before he even started to climb up in the polls to get close to her, people were sending his campaign more money. It was a big positive story. He campaigned so well and introduced himself to voters and they decided they liked him. Liked HIM, because of what he stood for, not because the media told them to. And they started voting for him in great numbers. It was a positive story and reported by the media. What the hell would you have wanted the media to say? He won dozens of elections. Should the media have reported otherwise?


Meantime, Hillary very early on had problems. Her fundraisers were crooked. Does the name Hsu ring a bell with you? Should the press have ignored that? In Iowa, she pulled all sorts of shady stunts. Kindergarten papers? Billy Shaheen? Bob Kerrey? Any of those ring a bell with you? And it's the media's fault they reported these things? Give me a break. Hillary has gotten glowing press in all sorts of areas. Remember all those 15 or so debates months ago. Virtually every poll said the viewers thought Edwards or Obama won most of them but the media fell all over themselves raving about how terrific Hillary had done, how presidential she was, how smart she was and had all the answers. Trust me, Edwards and Obama supporters had plenty of complaints about the unfair bias of the press towards Clinton but you guys weren't complaining then. It's only since she began losing so badly that the press became a convenient scapegoat for her and she started to play up her victim role. To this day she's still getting far better press than she deserves. She's lost more than half the elections held to date but they're still talking about her having a chance to win even though she doesn't. Anybody else would have been laughed out of town long ago. There is a truckload of dirt that could have been thrown at her and Bill but Obama is too classy to play the dirty politics game so she's getting a free ride there too. So kwitcher bitchin, and quit blaming her woes on a press that she's manipulated since day one. posted 03/22/2008 at 07:49:22

Hell, if you had read any of her multiple live blogging posts of the debates you'd know she's had no use for Obama ever. Fairness and transparency. Yeah right. posted 03/22/2008 at 08:43:48