May 17, 2008
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whimsicalpig
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Far More Than "Bitter": Message from a Small Town Pennsylvanian
Where Is the League of Women Voters When We Need Them?
I totally agree.
how different this whole campign season would have been with the league of women voters in charge.
there wouldn't have been that awful ufo question and perhaps some of the candidates wouldn't have been given such a pass by the media and so much extra attention.
likewise, for the democrats and the republicans, again, many of the truly qualified candidates were eliminated way too early for ratings reasons, rather than for their qualifications.
maybe next time the 2 parties will have learned a lesson and yank this option away from the media before it becomes another American Idol contest again. posted 04/17/2008 at 12:56:00
how different this whole campign season would have been with the league of women voters in charge.
there wouldn't have been that awful ufo question and perhaps some of the candidates wouldn't have been given such a pass by the media and so much extra attention.
likewise, for the democrats and the republicans, again, many of the truly qualified candidates were eliminated way too early for ratings reasons, rather than for their qualifications.
maybe next time the 2 parties will have learned a lesson and yank this option away from the media before it becomes another American Idol contest again. posted 04/17/2008 at 12:56:00
Obama Would "Immediately Review" Potential Of Crimes In Bush White House
I HOPE YOU AREN'T PLANNING TO YAWN WHILE THE REPUBLICANS TEAR HIM A NEW ONE.
YOU JUST SHOW YOUR ELITIST CONCEIT posted 04/16/2008 at 20:45:43
YOU JUST SHOW YOUR ELITIST CONCEIT posted 04/16/2008 at 20:45:43
I AM NOT SHOUTING, I JUST LEAVE MY KEYBOARD ON CAP LOCK FOR MY OTHER WORKS AND IT READS EASIER.
I AM NOT DESPARATE EITHER,
I AM DECIMATED BY THE STUPIDITY OF THE DEMOCRATS ONCE AGAIN AND HAVE ALREADY RESIGNED MYSELF TO EITHER 4 MORE YEARS IF BUSH OR 4 YEARS OF STIFFLED OBSTRUCTION AND INACTION. posted 04/16/2008 at 20:44:21
I AM NOT DESPARATE EITHER,
I AM DECIMATED BY THE STUPIDITY OF THE DEMOCRATS ONCE AGAIN AND HAVE ALREADY RESIGNED MYSELF TO EITHER 4 MORE YEARS IF BUSH OR 4 YEARS OF STIFFLED OBSTRUCTION AND INACTION. posted 04/16/2008 at 20:44:21
AGAIN... WHAT DOES HILLARY HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING THAT OBAMA SAYS.
STOP DIVERTING ATTENTION AWAY FROM YOUR GUY, RESPOND TO CRITICISM OF HIM WITHOUT RESORTING TO THE "OH YEAH, AND YOUR MOTHER WEARS ARMY BOOTS, SO THERE" ANSWER .
A GREAT PART OF THIS COUNTRY WILL BE KNOCKING OBAMA IF HE IS THE NOMINEE, CAN'T YOU TAKE IT? posted 04/16/2008 at 20:41:32
STOP DIVERTING ATTENTION AWAY FROM YOUR GUY, RESPOND TO CRITICISM OF HIM WITHOUT RESORTING TO THE "OH YEAH, AND YOUR MOTHER WEARS ARMY BOOTS, SO THERE" ANSWER .
A GREAT PART OF THIS COUNTRY WILL BE KNOCKING OBAMA IF HE IS THE NOMINEE, CAN'T YOU TAKE IT? posted 04/16/2008 at 20:41:32
IT'S NOT A MATTER OF CLAIRAVOYANCE, IT'S A MATTER OF LOGICAL CONCLUSIONS.
OF COURSE, WHEN YOU BECOME A SUBJECTIVE BELIEVER, YOU LOSE YOUR SENSE OF OBJECTIVE ANALYSIS AND ANYTHING THAT DOESN' COMPORT TO YOUR BELIEF IS CONSIDERED UNACCEPTABLE.
OF YOU HAD FOLLOWED HOW CONGRESS HAS WORKED FOR THE PAST CENTURY, YOU WOULD REALIZE THAT YOU DON'T MAKE CHANGES BY FIAT.
AND YOU DON'T MAKE CHANGES WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF A SIGNIFICANT MAJORITY OF BOTH HOUSES OF CONGRESS. posted 04/16/2008 at 20:37:41
OF COURSE, WHEN YOU BECOME A SUBJECTIVE BELIEVER, YOU LOSE YOUR SENSE OF OBJECTIVE ANALYSIS AND ANYTHING THAT DOESN' COMPORT TO YOUR BELIEF IS CONSIDERED UNACCEPTABLE.
OF YOU HAD FOLLOWED HOW CONGRESS HAS WORKED FOR THE PAST CENTURY, YOU WOULD REALIZE THAT YOU DON'T MAKE CHANGES BY FIAT.
AND YOU DON'T MAKE CHANGES WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF A SIGNIFICANT MAJORITY OF BOTH HOUSES OF CONGRESS. posted 04/16/2008 at 20:37:41
SAME TO YOU, NUTS ON BOTH OF THEM
STOP EVADING CRITICISM OF YOUR GUY BY BLASTING HILLARY, IT JUST MAKES YOU LOOK LIKE A BUSHIE FOR OBAMA posted 04/16/2008 at 20:27:36
STOP EVADING CRITICISM OF YOUR GUY BY BLASTING HILLARY, IT JUST MAKES YOU LOOK LIKE A BUSHIE FOR OBAMA posted 04/16/2008 at 20:27:36
I AM SO SICK AND TIRED OF OBAMITES JUMPING TO THE CONCLUSION THAT I SUPPORT HILLARY.
I DON'T!
I JUST DON'T SUP[PORT YOUR GUY EITHER.
THEY ARE BOTH HORRIBLE CHOICES THAT WILL LEAD TO A REPUBLICAN VICTORY posted 04/16/2008 at 20:25:33
I DON'T!
I JUST DON'T SUP[PORT YOUR GUY EITHER.
THEY ARE BOTH HORRIBLE CHOICES THAT WILL LEAD TO A REPUBLICAN VICTORY posted 04/16/2008 at 20:25:33
whats wrong with pointing out out preposterous mr obama's statements are.
unless he gets 180+ new congressmen and 61 senators who are willing to do as he says and not their corporate sponsors, then he is just blowing hot air and his followers are as blind to his faults as bush's followers are to him. posted 04/15/2008 at 14:40:56
unless he gets 180+ new congressmen and 61 senators who are willing to do as he says and not their corporate sponsors, then he is just blowing hot air and his followers are as blind to his faults as bush's followers are to him. posted 04/15/2008 at 14:40:56
your idea sounds logical and civilized
unfortunately it will set in stone the mechanism for any other rogue administration (including the next one) to usurp even more power and unbalance the constitution even more.
It cannot be allowed to go unpunished
bipartisanship be damned. there has to be a firm example set so that no more tyrants will try to do what these have done.
the cost will be greater, in the end, if we do not set the ship of state aright at this point. posted 04/15/2008 at 14:33:57
unfortunately it will set in stone the mechanism for any other rogue administration (including the next one) to usurp even more power and unbalance the constitution even more.
It cannot be allowed to go unpunished
bipartisanship be damned. there has to be a firm example set so that no more tyrants will try to do what these have done.
the cost will be greater, in the end, if we do not set the ship of state aright at this point. posted 04/15/2008 at 14:33:57
except for that tiny little equivocating minor ("could be spun as a partisan withchunt") statement that gives him all the out he will need to do as ms. pelosi and mr. reid have done... nothing.
I was incredulous that 49% of the country could swallow what bush said in 2004 and elect him.
I am even more incredulous that the democrats are following this pied pipe over a cliff. posted 04/15/2008 at 14:29:37
I was incredulous that 49% of the country could swallow what bush said in 2004 and elect him.
I am even more incredulous that the democrats are following this pied pipe over a cliff. posted 04/15/2008 at 14:29:37
SOUNDS LIKE ANOTHER "PRESENT" VOTE FOR MR OBAMA.
WHAT EQUIVOCATING.
AND HE KNEW HIS FOLLOWERS WOULD READ WHAT THEY WANTED TO BELIEVE INTO IT.
SURE, HE WILL "LOOK INTO IT"
AND THEN HAND EVERYONE A LINE TO THE EFFECT THAT NO BI-PARTISAN RELATIONSHIPS CAN BE CREATED AND MAINTAINED IF A"WITCHHUNT IS ONGOING AND THAT WILL BE THE LAST YOU HEAR OF IT
BUSINESS WILL BE AS USUAL UNLESS HE GETS 180+ NEW, CLEAN CONGRESSMEN AND 61 NEW CLEAN SENATORS VOTED IN WITH HIM IN 2008
AND BOTH YOU AND MR OBAMA KNOW THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN SO HE IS FREE TO SAY WHATEVER WILL GET HIM VOTES. posted 04/15/2008 at 14:24:44
WHAT EQUIVOCATING.
AND HE KNEW HIS FOLLOWERS WOULD READ WHAT THEY WANTED TO BELIEVE INTO IT.
SURE, HE WILL "LOOK INTO IT"
AND THEN HAND EVERYONE A LINE TO THE EFFECT THAT NO BI-PARTISAN RELATIONSHIPS CAN BE CREATED AND MAINTAINED IF A"WITCHHUNT IS ONGOING AND THAT WILL BE THE LAST YOU HEAR OF IT
BUSINESS WILL BE AS USUAL UNLESS HE GETS 180+ NEW, CLEAN CONGRESSMEN AND 61 NEW CLEAN SENATORS VOTED IN WITH HIM IN 2008
AND BOTH YOU AND MR OBAMA KNOW THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN SO HE IS FREE TO SAY WHATEVER WILL GET HIM VOTES. posted 04/15/2008 at 14:24:44
Lieberman: Good Question To Ask If Obama Is A Marxist
he is not inconsequential, he represents the jewish lobbies in the us posted 04/14/2008 at 21:09:45
I usuallydon't appreciate this type of comment, just a little too crude for my taste, but I have to admit, it is accurate. and aptly put. posted 04/14/2008 at 21:08:25
For Barack Obama, It's Not a Question of Being Elite, It's About Understanding
why is there always a lie or a spin or something that can explain away what this guy does, you are beginning ot sound as blindly obedient as the bushies are with GW.
how sad to be so smitten posted 04/17/2008 at 13:01:29
how sad to be so smitten posted 04/17/2008 at 13:01:29
I am glad people are beginning to understand the true impact of what he said.
telling people that their strong attachment to God is the result of their job loses due to the outsourcing debacle is an insult at best.
these people knew God long before obama found is reverend wright's chuch in chicago
the residents of PA have hunted those hills since william penn stepped ashore.
his comments were a fublte hint of what he truly thinks about blue colloar white people.
he isn't a uniter, he is a user of peoples pain for political advantage,. posted 04/14/2008 at 15:02:51
telling people that their strong attachment to God is the result of their job loses due to the outsourcing debacle is an insult at best.
these people knew God long before obama found is reverend wright's chuch in chicago
the residents of PA have hunted those hills since william penn stepped ashore.
his comments were a fublte hint of what he truly thinks about blue colloar white people.
he isn't a uniter, he is a user of peoples pain for political advantage,. posted 04/14/2008 at 15:02:51
Buchanan On McLaughlin: Fifty-Fifty Chance We Bomb Iran By Fall
a sad but somewhat accurate description of the state of american sociey.
as thomas jefferson said, though, the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
perhaps it is time for a different type of change in america.
I just don't see obama "talking any of those entrenched in DC into giving up,voluntarily, any of their power.
no matter what obama promises, people don't give up power by just being asked, it has to be taken from them by force, posted 04/13/2008 at 20:39:24
as thomas jefferson said, though, the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
perhaps it is time for a different type of change in america.
I just don't see obama "talking any of those entrenched in DC into giving up,voluntarily, any of their power.
no matter what obama promises, people don't give up power by just being asked, it has to be taken from them by force, posted 04/13/2008 at 20:39:24
well, it's refreshing to see that some nations, at least, have a bit of comon sense.
perhaps this will put an end to the warmonger and his puppet.
it would be ironic that russia would be the stabilizing force in the world, acting to counter-balance the out-of-control cheney administration. posted 04/13/2008 at 20:21:32
perhaps this will put an end to the warmonger and his puppet.
it would be ironic that russia would be the stabilizing force in the world, acting to counter-balance the out-of-control cheney administration. posted 04/13/2008 at 20:21:32
Bill Clinton Flashback: "All These Economically Insecure White People...Are Scared To Death"
what qualifies you to decide if their anger is "misplaced"
just because economic situations have changed their lives, it hasn't made them stupid.
they know exactly what has happened to them
they believed in God before the economic displacement and they have hunted and carried guns for much longer.
obama was completley off the mark, showing how much of his "intellignece" is just rhetoric,
Bill Clinton's remarks were explaining how the republicans attempt to manipulate people through fear
obama was attempting to explain their behavior as an inapproptiate response to bad economic conditions.
there is a BIG difference in these statements and it is not in obama's favor. posted 04/13/2008 at 21:48:14
just because economic situations have changed their lives, it hasn't made them stupid.
they know exactly what has happened to them
they believed in God before the economic displacement and they have hunted and carried guns for much longer.
obama was completley off the mark, showing how much of his "intellignece" is just rhetoric,
Bill Clinton's remarks were explaining how the republicans attempt to manipulate people through fear
obama was attempting to explain their behavior as an inapproptiate response to bad economic conditions.
there is a BIG difference in these statements and it is not in obama's favor. posted 04/13/2008 at 21:48:14
Dalpine:
Please explain in more detail how hillary's having money automatically renders her out of touch.
granted, some people with money are out of touch, ie goerge bush and his father, but your rant on hillary still does not explain the much more elitist slant of obama's comments compared to the more understandable analysis of bill clinton
whenever obama is caught and criticized, the only response from his supporters is, oh yeah, but hillary does this.....
you are beginning to sound very much like the uncritical supporters of george bush.
you know, my guy is right because I know it's so. posted 04/13/2008 at 21:37:18
Please explain in more detail how hillary's having money automatically renders her out of touch.
granted, some people with money are out of touch, ie goerge bush and his father, but your rant on hillary still does not explain the much more elitist slant of obama's comments compared to the more understandable analysis of bill clinton
whenever obama is caught and criticized, the only response from his supporters is, oh yeah, but hillary does this.....
you are beginning to sound very much like the uncritical supporters of george bush.
you know, my guy is right because I know it's so. posted 04/13/2008 at 21:37:18
Alberto Gonzales Finding It Tough To Land A New Job
I think you are wrong about this one,
It didn't so much prove that he was evil or corrupt as he proved that he was stupid and incompetent.
the "machine" can accept evil and corrupt, they may even admire that but, they can't tolerate stupid and incompetent. posted 04/12/2008 at 20:16:46
It didn't so much prove that he was evil or corrupt as he proved that he was stupid and incompetent.
the "machine" can accept evil and corrupt, they may even admire that but, they can't tolerate stupid and incompetent. posted 04/12/2008 at 20:16:46
Here We Go Again
WHAT OBAMA SAID WAS WRONG AND SNIDE.
People in small towns, as well as large cities, have turned to God for a lot longer that this outsourcing debacle,
they have also hunted, since they landed on the nation's shores.
His statement, while being rude an condescending, all the more underscores what I have felt all along.
he is a great orator without anything relevant to say. his plans for change are great rhetoric but are hopelessly unworkable. (He never really states just how he is going to accomplish this change.)
he just proved how removed he is from the crowd he is trying to use to vault to the presidency. posted 04/14/2008 at 11:28:42
People in small towns, as well as large cities, have turned to God for a lot longer that this outsourcing debacle,
they have also hunted, since they landed on the nation's shores.
His statement, while being rude an condescending, all the more underscores what I have felt all along.
he is a great orator without anything relevant to say. his plans for change are great rhetoric but are hopelessly unworkable. (He never really states just how he is going to accomplish this change.)
he just proved how removed he is from the crowd he is trying to use to vault to the presidency. posted 04/14/2008 at 11:28:42
Obama: No Surprise That Hard-Pressed Pennsylvanians Turn Bitter
why don'y you obama supporters just respond to obama's actions instead of deflecting the question on to a rant about hillary.
it's a devious way to avoid dealing with real criticism about your guy
you know, sort of like what the hard core bushies say about their guy. they can see no wrong in him and won't bridge any criticism. posted 04/11/2008 at 21:29:20
it's a devious way to avoid dealing with real criticism about your guy
you know, sort of like what the hard core bushies say about their guy. they can see no wrong in him and won't bridge any criticism. posted 04/11/2008 at 21:29:20
elitism isn't about money, it's about attitude.
there are people with money who are very down to earth and there are people of modest means who aspire to elitist attitudes as a projection of what they want to be. posted 04/11/2008 at 21:24:36
there are people with money who are very down to earth and there are people of modest means who aspire to elitist attitudes as a projection of what they want to be. posted 04/11/2008 at 21:24:36
Cheney, Others OK'd Harsh Interrogations
the time has come for everybody to stop "talking" about the crimes of this admiistraton and start some action.'
the world is watching us.
none of us will be able to hold our heads up in the world if action is not forced on this democratically controlled congress.
close to 1500 posts amounts to nothing, it's all just vented hot air.
either put up or shut up if you feel as outraged as you sound.
they count on you venting your frustration in the ether then convincing yourself that you actually "did something"
everyone on this site knows, in their heart, what needs to happen to this bunch
what amazes me is that no one want to be the vehicle to make it happen,.
just what does that say about us? posted 04/11/2008 at 17:58:23
the world is watching us.
none of us will be able to hold our heads up in the world if action is not forced on this democratically controlled congress.
close to 1500 posts amounts to nothing, it's all just vented hot air.
either put up or shut up if you feel as outraged as you sound.
they count on you venting your frustration in the ether then convincing yourself that you actually "did something"
everyone on this site knows, in their heart, what needs to happen to this bunch
what amazes me is that no one want to be the vehicle to make it happen,.
just what does that say about us? posted 04/11/2008 at 17:58:23
Obama Triangulates and Won't Go Where Other Great Americans Will on Hamas
many of us are still hoping for a third candidate at the covention.
we don't like either of these 2 candidates., nor mccain
I vote for none of the above. is a no-win situation for the nation. posted 04/10/2008 at 22:57:33
we don't like either of these 2 candidates., nor mccain
I vote for none of the above. is a no-win situation for the nation. posted 04/10/2008 at 22:57:33
BushCo: An Umpteenth Evaluation
"that they have pulled this off", while being mind boggling, has happened ONLY because the republican party has run interference for them for these 7+years, and are still doing in as we speak.
Bush is what he is, a small minded little petty tyrant with delusions of grandeur.
It is the individual republican members of congress who are truly reprehensible in their culpability in this disaster.
they are the enabler, like the drug dealer, who provides the means for the addict.
each and everyone of them should be run out of office simply for their unquestioning support of this administration. posted 04/10/2008 at 11:40:06
Bush is what he is, a small minded little petty tyrant with delusions of grandeur.
It is the individual republican members of congress who are truly reprehensible in their culpability in this disaster.
they are the enabler, like the drug dealer, who provides the means for the addict.
each and everyone of them should be run out of office simply for their unquestioning support of this administration. posted 04/10/2008 at 11:40:06
If McCain is running neck and neck with either democractic contender, then things haven't changed.
It utterly amazes me that he could have found any support for his second term yet middle america turned out to "rehire" him.
maybe, after they endure the coming recession, they will think a little differently about the republican platform in 2012.
maybe they will re-evaluate just what being middle america truly means and that the republican agenda has little to offer them once they realize that they are not on their way to becoming millionaires via the stock market and real estate investments,. posted 04/10/2008 at 11:31:35
It utterly amazes me that he could have found any support for his second term yet middle america turned out to "rehire" him.
maybe, after they endure the coming recession, they will think a little differently about the republican platform in 2012.
maybe they will re-evaluate just what being middle america truly means and that the republican agenda has little to offer them once they realize that they are not on their way to becoming millionaires via the stock market and real estate investments,. posted 04/10/2008 at 11:31:35
The Audacity of Populism: What Obama Needs to Do
I heard senator biden state yesterday that we can't even afford to shore up our assistance to Pakistan,(where terrorism is a major probelm, unlike Iraq) but that we can't afford it because of Iraq.
He also stated that we cannot just pre-emptively pull-out of that region without some sort of logical exit strategy.
the entire war on terrosim has been put on a tab which china holds.
with all the other financial crises around this nation
just how is obama going to pay for infrastructure, healthcare jobs etc?
its niceto promise the world, everyone likes you, but let's get realistic here
where is all this spending going to come from?
shouldn't we pay off all our current debts first? posted 04/09/2008 at 14:11:31
He also stated that we cannot just pre-emptively pull-out of that region without some sort of logical exit strategy.
the entire war on terrosim has been put on a tab which china holds.
with all the other financial crises around this nation
just how is obama going to pay for infrastructure, healthcare jobs etc?
its niceto promise the world, everyone likes you, but let's get realistic here
where is all this spending going to come from?
shouldn't we pay off all our current debts first? posted 04/09/2008 at 14:11:31
that plans sounds just silly.
who wants to pay rent and acquire no equity in a home.
who would purchase the forclosed home if they had to continue to rent it out?
if you don't own the home, what incentive do you have to keep up the property and respect the neighborhood.
this is just some wacky way to deny the reality of the whole economic situation in this country.
Jack nicholson said it best."you can't handle the truth!"
most americans in the middle class live in an unreal world that, until now, had been buffeted from reality by the purchasing power of their credit cards and the illusitory value of their home equity.
it's time for them to deal with what has been happening,(for real) in thisnation.
while they blindly supported bush et al and diverted themselves from the facts by consuming themselves into an oblivion of denial the world was crumbling around them.
welcome them to the real world, don't try and wrap them in another blanket of denial. posted 04/09/2008 at 14:04:56
who wants to pay rent and acquire no equity in a home.
who would purchase the forclosed home if they had to continue to rent it out?
if you don't own the home, what incentive do you have to keep up the property and respect the neighborhood.
this is just some wacky way to deny the reality of the whole economic situation in this country.
Jack nicholson said it best."you can't handle the truth!"
most americans in the middle class live in an unreal world that, until now, had been buffeted from reality by the purchasing power of their credit cards and the illusitory value of their home equity.
it's time for them to deal with what has been happening,(for real) in thisnation.
while they blindly supported bush et al and diverted themselves from the facts by consuming themselves into an oblivion of denial the world was crumbling around them.
welcome them to the real world, don't try and wrap them in another blanket of denial. posted 04/09/2008 at 14:04:56
The Gen. Petraeus and Amb. Crocker Hearings and What the Surge in Fact Proves
a few informed caring citizens are going to change anything.
you need droves of mad as hell middle class people who have come to the sudden realization that their fake comfortable life was not, is not and can't be sustainable.
let them really fear for their future and their children's future, then they will care who is running this country.
as long as they can hold out for that "rebate" check in May, everything is fine.
as long as the credit hold out, they will ignore the ugly fact that america has become for most of its citizens.
only when they feel the pain, will they be spurred into acting
perhaps a long depression would clean out the rot that has invaded our country's moral and economic fibre. posted 04/09/2008 at 14:21:59
you need droves of mad as hell middle class people who have come to the sudden realization that their fake comfortable life was not, is not and can't be sustainable.
let them really fear for their future and their children's future, then they will care who is running this country.
as long as they can hold out for that "rebate" check in May, everything is fine.
as long as the credit hold out, they will ignore the ugly fact that america has become for most of its citizens.
only when they feel the pain, will they be spurred into acting
perhaps a long depression would clean out the rot that has invaded our country's moral and economic fibre. posted 04/09/2008 at 14:21:59
this decision came from the same cabal that told us that there were WMD's ties to Al Quida, nuclear weapons programs, enough troops, and the surge is working.
they came to the conclusion that best fit their scenario at this time.
they were not so lenient with the abu graib soldiers, now were they.
At least Murtha has been consistent in his condemnation of this awful war.
unlike the military and the justice department whose trust factor is at zero. posted 04/09/2008 at 10:30:17
they came to the conclusion that best fit their scenario at this time.
they were not so lenient with the abu graib soldiers, now were they.
At least Murtha has been consistent in his condemnation of this awful war.
unlike the military and the justice department whose trust factor is at zero. posted 04/09/2008 at 10:30:17
LITU:
how true, how true posted 04/09/2008 at 10:25:44
how true, how true posted 04/09/2008 at 10:25:44
be counted by whom?
it's clear that our representatives don't care what we say
it's clear the white house doesn't care what we say
it's clear that corporate america doesn't care what we say
just who do you think is going to take care to see what our needs and desires are?????
in this current state or government, we have no voice. (and obama won't give you a voice either, he is aceptin money and favors from the same bunch that runs this country)
It is time for the citizens to seek redress to their grievences in a new way, but just what that is isn't clear at this time.
when only 28% knew that wehad passed the 4000 kia threshold, then we are in trouble becuase the majority of the citizenry don't care. posted 04/09/2008 at 10:24:13
it's clear that our representatives don't care what we say
it's clear the white house doesn't care what we say
it's clear that corporate america doesn't care what we say
just who do you think is going to take care to see what our needs and desires are?????
in this current state or government, we have no voice. (and obama won't give you a voice either, he is aceptin money and favors from the same bunch that runs this country)
It is time for the citizens to seek redress to their grievences in a new way, but just what that is isn't clear at this time.
when only 28% knew that wehad passed the 4000 kia threshold, then we are in trouble becuase the majority of the citizenry don't care. posted 04/09/2008 at 10:24:13
McCain: Democrats' Stance on Iraq Flawed
As long as you want to drive your car all over the nation, fly to Disney world and want strawberries in december, we will be in this area for a good long time, no matter what obvama is promising. posted 04/07/2008 at 11:28:53
Kos: Clinton's "Destructive Coup Attempt" Good For Democrats
isn't that how we got stuck with these 2 anyway?
what were the chances, that with all of the truly competent and experienced potential candidates for the democratic nominee, we would end up with these 2 without the manipulation of the news media.
go back and examine the creation of the the "top tier" and the "2nd tier" of candidates.
for every incident of coverage of the 2nd tier candidate, there were 4-6 incidents of coverage of hillary and obama.
this wasn't because they were drawing bigger crowds, this was before that.
they were chosen, as token novelty candidates because they were the most likey to generate ratings in what was thought to have been a long, drawn out and potentially boring primary season.
obama will be covered right up until the middle of oct then something will surface that will hinder his campaign,
if you have as many brains as it took to understand bush's lies to get us into this war, then you will see that we will "elect" mccain because there is no way we will allow our oil to be unprotected,
in the mean time, the obama followers will provide enough interest, especially as they attempt to trash hillary.
after hillary is gone, obama and his followers will provide the perfect contrast to a dignified, experienced war hero.
fait acompli posted 04/06/2008 at 20:47:32
what were the chances, that with all of the truly competent and experienced potential candidates for the democratic nominee, we would end up with these 2 without the manipulation of the news media.
go back and examine the creation of the the "top tier" and the "2nd tier" of candidates.
for every incident of coverage of the 2nd tier candidate, there were 4-6 incidents of coverage of hillary and obama.
this wasn't because they were drawing bigger crowds, this was before that.
they were chosen, as token novelty candidates because they were the most likey to generate ratings in what was thought to have been a long, drawn out and potentially boring primary season.
obama will be covered right up until the middle of oct then something will surface that will hinder his campaign,
if you have as many brains as it took to understand bush's lies to get us into this war, then you will see that we will "elect" mccain because there is no way we will allow our oil to be unprotected,
in the mean time, the obama followers will provide enough interest, especially as they attempt to trash hillary.
after hillary is gone, obama and his followers will provide the perfect contrast to a dignified, experienced war hero.
fait acompli posted 04/06/2008 at 20:47:32
Andrew Sullivan: Bush Administration Officials Will Be 'Indicted For War Crimes'
perhaps, if we can't get retribution by trying these guys, we can set an example by making sure that those that enabled this bunch will never hold public office again.
don't forget, there were plenty of americans, elected or not, who were directly responsible for putting this guy in office and who then continued to elect congressmen who enabled them,.
the blame for this war and the rape of our constitution doesn't end with the occupants of the white house.
anyone who supported him, especially those who voted for him in 2004 are directly culpable for this tragedy. posted 04/06/2008 at 23:29:26
don't forget, there were plenty of americans, elected or not, who were directly responsible for putting this guy in office and who then continued to elect congressmen who enabled them,.
the blame for this war and the rape of our constitution doesn't end with the occupants of the white house.
anyone who supported him, especially those who voted for him in 2004 are directly culpable for this tragedy. posted 04/06/2008 at 23:29:26
your blinding faith is reminiscent of the bush groupies, unwilling to see the writing on the wall.
mccain can pardon the whole lot of them, much like ford did.
that fact, and the age of some of our supreme court justices should be enough to shake up the democratic party to put out a ticket that will actually stand a chance of winning in november.
of course that bunch of incompetents couldn't even stop a lame duck president from making fools of them.
I don't put a whole lot of faith is this bunch to put up a winning ticket posted 04/06/2008 at 23:21:16
mccain can pardon the whole lot of them, much like ford did.
that fact, and the age of some of our supreme court justices should be enough to shake up the democratic party to put out a ticket that will actually stand a chance of winning in november.
of course that bunch of incompetents couldn't even stop a lame duck president from making fools of them.
I don't put a whole lot of faith is this bunch to put up a winning ticket posted 04/06/2008 at 23:21:16
the only thing left to do is oust the democrats who failed to act on the motion.
what is most important is that the citizens just don't act like slugs and slither away to the mall putting all this "nasty political talk" our of their minds in an orgy of consumption.'
hey, maybe there is an upside to this recession, your average american won't be able to hide from reality by spending himself into oblivion and will have to come to grips with what has been happening these past 7 years
after all, the consequences of ignoring this administration is smacking most americans upside the head right now.
' posted 04/06/2008 at 23:10:04
what is most important is that the citizens just don't act like slugs and slither away to the mall putting all this "nasty political talk" our of their minds in an orgy of consumption.'
hey, maybe there is an upside to this recession, your average american won't be able to hide from reality by spending himself into oblivion and will have to come to grips with what has been happening these past 7 years
after all, the consequences of ignoring this administration is smacking most americans upside the head right now.
' posted 04/06/2008 at 23:10:04
Who Can Beat McCain?
who can beat mccain?
don't underestimate the gop. they got bush a second term didn't they? posted 04/07/2008 at 11:49:09
don't underestimate the gop. they got bush a second term didn't they? posted 04/07/2008 at 11:49:09
it doesn' t matter "who John McCain is on policy" if the wishy-washy middle is the least bit put off by the democratic candidate, especially in this very unsettling economic time, they may just go for the reliable and known quanitity that is the republican party.
after all, they elected bush in 2004
the weakest link in the democratic plan is this assuredness that the country would never elect another republican at this point.
IT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHO THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE IS
don't count thses chickens before they hatch. posted 04/07/2008 at 11:44:15
after all, they elected bush in 2004
the weakest link in the democratic plan is this assuredness that the country would never elect another republican at this point.
IT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHO THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE IS
don't count thses chickens before they hatch. posted 04/07/2008 at 11:44:15
The Iraq Factor in This Election Cycle
this is a brilliant assessment of the potential problems for the democrats.
they promised change in 2006 and failed miserably ,whether through design or incompetence.
if all they are running on now is a promise of change, we may be disappointed with the results.
It would be difficult to trust a word from any of the deomcratic leaders after the fiasco of these last 15 months. why would we want more of the same.
we are stuck between more of the same (mccain) or what the heck might they do (obama) or we know what they will do but can we take 4-8 more years of them (hillary)..
no wonder even a whiff of a gore candidacy sends everyone into a twitter. posted 04/05/2008 at 23:51:38
they promised change in 2006 and failed miserably ,whether through design or incompetence.
if all they are running on now is a promise of change, we may be disappointed with the results.
It would be difficult to trust a word from any of the deomcratic leaders after the fiasco of these last 15 months. why would we want more of the same.
we are stuck between more of the same (mccain) or what the heck might they do (obama) or we know what they will do but can we take 4-8 more years of them (hillary)..
no wonder even a whiff of a gore candidacy sends everyone into a twitter. posted 04/05/2008 at 23:51:38
George Bush Gets His Way: Letting History Judge
in this inter-connected world, it isn't going to be just american historians chronicling this disaster,
Bush may think that rove can rehabilitate his image by writing books and giving speeches to those who will listen, but the rest of the world has already formed its opinion, not only of george, but of hte people who let him claim that office 2 times.
I don't think the 49% that actually supported this maniac realize that they, too, have a place in infamy
they have allowed america's image to be sullied, perhaps beyond rehabilitation and the remainder of americans and the rest of the planet hold them personally responsible for each and every death since the beginning of this fool's journey into iraq. posted 04/04/2008 at 20:47:44
Bush may think that rove can rehabilitate his image by writing books and giving speeches to those who will listen, but the rest of the world has already formed its opinion, not only of george, but of hte people who let him claim that office 2 times.
I don't think the 49% that actually supported this maniac realize that they, too, have a place in infamy
they have allowed america's image to be sullied, perhaps beyond rehabilitation and the remainder of americans and the rest of the planet hold them personally responsible for each and every death since the beginning of this fool's journey into iraq. posted 04/04/2008 at 20:47:44
Letter From A Soldier: Answers You Won't Want To Hear
thank you jinjinpinti, at least I don't feel like such a "freak" now.
I was not "into" the net before this time in my life, so plese forgive me my "catch-up" time. posted 04/02/2008 at 14:07:49
I was not "into" the net before this time in my life, so plese forgive me my "catch-up" time. posted 04/02/2008 at 14:07:49
having them fade away might sound appealing but they won't. rove et al will be out ther revising history.
this is not the "best" we can hope for.
the best, would be a confirmation that an unchecked branch of government can leads to disaster.
reagan didn't have a slow and painful death in obscurity, he was quietly transformed into the new republican saint. he was "revised" while everyone was watching clinton.
now his image has been polished to a saintly shine that every repuclican candidate aspires to.
we certainly, as a nation do not want the necon agenda to see the same fate. posted 04/02/2008 at 12:02:18
this is not the "best" we can hope for.
the best, would be a confirmation that an unchecked branch of government can leads to disaster.
reagan didn't have a slow and painful death in obscurity, he was quietly transformed into the new republican saint. he was "revised" while everyone was watching clinton.
now his image has been polished to a saintly shine that every repuclican candidate aspires to.
we certainly, as a nation do not want the necon agenda to see the same fate. posted 04/02/2008 at 12:02:18
what amazes me most, at this point in this disaster is how many people either are truly surprized by the facts on the ground in iraq or are just feigning surprise so as to not appear complicit in what has been done by this administration.
I am no military historian or political analyst, but, come on,... anyone with half a functioning brain could see where this was going to end up.
I don't spend hours reading the news but even I garnered enough info prior to the invasion to see what a mistake and what a lie it was.
I just can't believe that I was smarter than all the rest.
somebody just isn't coming clean as to their true assessment of the pre-war dialogues and will not now admit that they went along out of fear to go against the cheney (McCarthy)propoganda machine
at least if you all came forward and admitted that cheney scared the bejeezus out of you for fear of being called a "traitor" we could get his dirty unpatriotic tactics out in theopen andhold this administration responsible for EVERYTHING they have done in 7+ years.
if you didn't have the courage to go against them when they were in power, please muster enough now to help us finally put them away for good. posted 04/01/2008 at 20:21:29
I am no military historian or political analyst, but, come on,... anyone with half a functioning brain could see where this was going to end up.
I don't spend hours reading the news but even I garnered enough info prior to the invasion to see what a mistake and what a lie it was.
I just can't believe that I was smarter than all the rest.
somebody just isn't coming clean as to their true assessment of the pre-war dialogues and will not now admit that they went along out of fear to go against the cheney (McCarthy)propoganda machine
at least if you all came forward and admitted that cheney scared the bejeezus out of you for fear of being called a "traitor" we could get his dirty unpatriotic tactics out in theopen andhold this administration responsible for EVERYTHING they have done in 7+ years.
if you didn't have the courage to go against them when they were in power, please muster enough now to help us finally put them away for good. posted 04/01/2008 at 20:21:29
Of course it's nt pointless to jump on bush's reasons,
all of what he and cheney have done need to be exorcized byway of impeachment hearings that will forever illustrate just how wrong things can get when on banch of government is left "unchecked" posted 04/01/2008 at 20:11:52
all of what he and cheney have done need to be exorcized byway of impeachment hearings that will forever illustrate just how wrong things can get when on banch of government is left "unchecked" posted 04/01/2008 at 20:11:52
Bush's Vision, Luck and Historical Legacy
are you implying, in any sense of the word, that history could someday find anything resembling "greatness" in this man and his gang of thugs? posted 04/01/2008 at 13:16:33
What I am afraid will happen is that in the next decade, people such as rove ,rice and other more literate members of this cabal will issue books and speehes for the sole purpose of revising the bush legacy.
I am hopiing that enterprising journalists and historians will eagerly take up the challenge of separating the propoganda from the truth.
It would be a dis-service to our nation's history to allow these liars to "set the record" for this administration.
while we were kept from seeing the flag draped coffins returning from iraq, there will be no hiding of the maimed and disfigured servicemen and servicewomen as they eventually re-enter society.
this will be the most long-standing reminder of just what bush did for who knows what purpose.
couple that with the horrific debt to china that we will inherit for this folly and maybe it will be several generations before his apologizers can begin to obfuscate his legacy posted 04/01/2008 at 11:57:43
I am hopiing that enterprising journalists and historians will eagerly take up the challenge of separating the propoganda from the truth.
It would be a dis-service to our nation's history to allow these liars to "set the record" for this administration.
while we were kept from seeing the flag draped coffins returning from iraq, there will be no hiding of the maimed and disfigured servicemen and servicewomen as they eventually re-enter society.
this will be the most long-standing reminder of just what bush did for who knows what purpose.
couple that with the horrific debt to china that we will inherit for this folly and maybe it will be several generations before his apologizers can begin to obfuscate his legacy posted 04/01/2008 at 11:57:43
It Won't Be Gore, Will It?
here, here, you have hit the nail on the head.
"the least two qualified in the panoply of candidates that started the race.
instinctively, anyone with an ounce of brains knows this and that is why the "gore" prospect just won't die.
we all know we can do better than what we have been forced to accept by the media
if you don't believe what the media is up to, just watch a tape of Morning Joe from Tuesday 04/01 to see the sickening display of blatant partisanship coming out of the mouth of "Mika'.
it's no wonder that the truly qualified candidates didn't stand a chance. posted 04/01/2008 at 20:42:09
"the least two qualified in the panoply of candidates that started the race.
instinctively, anyone with an ounce of brains knows this and that is why the "gore" prospect just won't die.
we all know we can do better than what we have been forced to accept by the media
if you don't believe what the media is up to, just watch a tape of Morning Joe from Tuesday 04/01 to see the sickening display of blatant partisanship coming out of the mouth of "Mika'.
it's no wonder that the truly qualified candidates didn't stand a chance. posted 04/01/2008 at 20:42:09
Lou Dobbs Says Anti-Clinton Media Bias "Worsening"
this whole hillary/obama thing is beginning to wear thin.
you are all so busy insulting the other side that you forget we are all on the same side.
The nastiness of the obama crowd is dispicable and does little to elevate their guy.
'If anything, it casts a big stinky blot on him to be surrounded by so many spiteful overzealous people.
there are no conciliatory voices in his fan club.
how can he unite the country when his followers are splitting the democratic party apart,
you will reap what you sew.
If hillary is so awful, how come she gets so many votes? obama's supporter compare her to a red-headed stepchild at a family reunion.. for cripe sake she isn't david duke
when I talk with my independent and moderate republican friends, they don't want hillary and they don't trust obama, but they say they would vote for gore in a minute
so far I only see half of the democratic party getting behind obama, that's not an overwhelming majority. be careful what you wish for in this coming election cycle.
- posted 03/31/2008 at 22:28:42
you are all so busy insulting the other side that you forget we are all on the same side.
The nastiness of the obama crowd is dispicable and does little to elevate their guy.
'If anything, it casts a big stinky blot on him to be surrounded by so many spiteful overzealous people.
there are no conciliatory voices in his fan club.
how can he unite the country when his followers are splitting the democratic party apart,
you will reap what you sew.
If hillary is so awful, how come she gets so many votes? obama's supporter compare her to a red-headed stepchild at a family reunion.. for cripe sake she isn't david duke
when I talk with my independent and moderate republican friends, they don't want hillary and they don't trust obama, but they say they would vote for gore in a minute
so far I only see half of the democratic party getting behind obama, that's not an overwhelming majority. be careful what you wish for in this coming election cycle.
- posted 03/31/2008 at 22:28:42
General Hayden Revises History In Iraq
I hope there are a good number of journalists and reporters who are poised to investigatea and report on the revision of the bush administration that will follow Jan 2009.
I am sure rove et al are busy writing books that will describe what "really happend " for the last 8 years/.
It behooves us, as a nation, to make sure that the lies that were such a part of this administration aren't codified into history by the propagandists for this crew.
I am afraid that while our eyes will be on the new administration's attempts to deal with the mess, quietly, books will be written and speaches given that will amerliorate this evil cabals deeds and attempt to "slip" them into a respectible place in history. posted 03/30/2008 at 17:18:25
I am sure rove et al are busy writing books that will describe what "really happend " for the last 8 years/.
It behooves us, as a nation, to make sure that the lies that were such a part of this administration aren't codified into history by the propagandists for this crew.
I am afraid that while our eyes will be on the new administration's attempts to deal with the mess, quietly, books will be written and speaches given that will amerliorate this evil cabals deeds and attempt to "slip" them into a respectible place in history. posted 03/30/2008 at 17:18:25
Hagel: 'Arrogance, Incompetence' Fuel Bush's Run To War
I saw a Hagel this morning on morning joe and he did not endorse anyone, and I doubt that he will.
he was asked to align himself with a democrat once before and he declined.
while he is definitely not a neocon, he is still a republican in the old sense and I doubt if much of obama's platform would be something he could support,.
and if obama were to conform to a legitimate bipartisan agenda, he would sorely disappoint many of his more "populace" supporters. posted 04/01/2008 at 13:23:46
he was asked to align himself with a democrat once before and he declined.
while he is definitely not a neocon, he is still a republican in the old sense and I doubt if much of obama's platform would be something he could support,.
and if obama were to conform to a legitimate bipartisan agenda, he would sorely disappoint many of his more "populace" supporters. posted 04/01/2008 at 13:23:46
which is why he is not seeking re-election. he has cut himself off from his party by not marching in lock step.
he is a man without a party.
a noble man, for sure, but a lonely. party-less man.
at least he can sleep at night knowing that he is no longer blindly supporting the disaster in the white house,.
more power to you, mr. hagel posted 03/30/2008 at 19:55:20
he is a man without a party.
a noble man, for sure, but a lonely. party-less man.
at least he can sleep at night knowing that he is no longer blindly supporting the disaster in the white house,.
more power to you, mr. hagel posted 03/30/2008 at 19:55:20
Should Obama Drop Out of the Race?
What I find is that the quality of the supporter is very reflective of the candidate.
I am a bit put off by the unbridled meaness of the obama supporters.
what is it about obama that tends to attrack this type of supporter? posted 03/30/2008 at 18:51:44
I am a bit put off by the unbridled meaness of the obama supporters.
what is it about obama that tends to attrack this type of supporter? posted 03/30/2008 at 18:51:44
Stop-Loss: This Generation's Deer Hunter
isn't that where bush and cheny got their ideas? posted 03/28/2008 at 21:38:34
please.......
what is the mission?
what was the original mission?...
what has it morphed into to try and save bush/cheney from infamy.
how do you know when it is over? posted 03/28/2008 at 21:36:23
what is the mission?
what was the original mission?...
what has it morphed into to try and save bush/cheney from infamy.
how do you know when it is over? posted 03/28/2008 at 21:36:23
I'm sure there would be military jobs that the "too fat, too short, too sick (I am assuming you mean, diabetics, MS sufferers, asthmatics etc,) people with one leg could fill.
even today not everyone in the army serves on the front line.
we wouldn't have to "outsource" all those jobs to haliburton or kbr and everyone could contribute without someone making a gross amount of profit at the tax payers expense.
that sounds like a better plan than letting the stock holders of Haliburton leech off the system as they do, posted 03/28/2008 at 21:31:33
even today not everyone in the army serves on the front line.
we wouldn't have to "outsource" all those jobs to haliburton or kbr and everyone could contribute without someone making a gross amount of profit at the tax payers expense.
that sounds like a better plan than letting the stock holders of Haliburton leech off the system as they do, posted 03/28/2008 at 21:31:33
this was my feeling from the beginning.
It is said that bin laden planned this attack for 5 years, perhaps he struck when he did because we had put the right "chump" in command to suit his purpose.
It makes me crazy to think of how different our world would be if just one of 5 justices on the supreme court had acted with integrity instead of ideology. posted 03/28/2008 at 21:22:52
It is said that bin laden planned this attack for 5 years, perhaps he struck when he did because we had put the right "chump" in command to suit his purpose.
It makes me crazy to think of how different our world would be if just one of 5 justices on the supreme court had acted with integrity instead of ideology. posted 03/28/2008 at 21:22:52
Gore: Dem Race Will "Resolve Itself," No Urgency To Intervene
I hope all of you with this opinion are actively involved in ousting your democratic congressmen and senators for not impeaching bush/cheney
in perspective their actions are much worse that hillary's one vote yet I don't see as much anger agaisnt them.
is this just an "I hate anyone who is against my guy" sort of thing? posted 03/28/2008 at 14:38:40
in perspective their actions are much worse that hillary's one vote yet I don't see as much anger agaisnt them.
is this just an "I hate anyone who is against my guy" sort of thing? posted 03/28/2008 at 14:38:40
I heartedly agree.
Is your name indicative of your lack of a candidate to follow? posted 03/28/2008 at 14:35:29
Is your name indicative of your lack of a candidate to follow? posted 03/28/2008 at 14:35:29
I agree with NoGoodNamesLeft:
You obama supporters throw anyone under the bus who doesn't drink your koolaid
this might sound just fine on a leftist blog like huffington, but you have got to get out more and talk to middle of the road americans. Mccain is starting to look good to them.
Obama is starting to look frighteningly leftist/socialist. Not that it is his platform, mind you,
It is his devotees who are giving the country that impression.
you are verging on "unbridled exuberance". posted 03/28/2008 at 14:34:53
You obama supporters throw anyone under the bus who doesn't drink your koolaid
this might sound just fine on a leftist blog like huffington, but you have got to get out more and talk to middle of the road americans. Mccain is starting to look good to them.
Obama is starting to look frighteningly leftist/socialist. Not that it is his platform, mind you,
It is his devotees who are giving the country that impression.
you are verging on "unbridled exuberance". posted 03/28/2008 at 14:34:53
Time Mag Cover: "How Al Gore Could Save The Democrats"
why would potential presidential candidate webb want to be associated with a possible obama presidency.
even if obama manages to grab the nomination and by some miracle gtes elected. his term will be a disaster, a jimmy carter re-do of stagnation as the escounced congress answers to their K-street sponsors and virtually ignores the guy in the white house,
anyone with a brain knows no one is going to stop this war for the next decade or more, we WILL NOT leave all the oil unattended.
the economy will be in a recession verging on depression and there will be NO support for any changing of the status quo in the midst of a financial disaster.
the obama followers think they are grabbing the brass ring to wealth redistribution with this guy.
why would webb want to associate himself with this? posted 03/30/2008 at 19:40:19
even if obama manages to grab the nomination and by some miracle gtes elected. his term will be a disaster, a jimmy carter re-do of stagnation as the escounced congress answers to their K-street sponsors and virtually ignores the guy in the white house,
anyone with a brain knows no one is going to stop this war for the next decade or more, we WILL NOT leave all the oil unattended.
the economy will be in a recession verging on depression and there will be NO support for any changing of the status quo in the midst of a financial disaster.
the obama followers think they are grabbing the brass ring to wealth redistribution with this guy.
why would webb want to associate himself with this? posted 03/30/2008 at 19:40:19
what a great understanding of the situation!
You are definitely correct in stating that obama cannot even unite the domocratic party.
'in fact, his followers seem intent on exocising anyone who won't jump on their obama train.
all the obama supporters are managing to do is alienate the moderate democratics and scare the bejeezus out of the moderate republicans and independents that will be needed to win the general election. posted 03/30/2008 at 19:30:22
You are definitely correct in stating that obama cannot even unite the domocratic party.
'in fact, his followers seem intent on exocising anyone who won't jump on their obama train.
all the obama supporters are managing to do is alienate the moderate democratics and scare the bejeezus out of the moderate republicans and independents that will be needed to win the general election. posted 03/30/2008 at 19:30:22
this is what I see, also.
the MSM stripped the party of any viable candidates to concentrate on these 2 "token novelty" candidates as they would make for good ratings.
they did this by denying status to the others by relegating them to "2nd tier status from the get-go thereby planting the idea in the populace's minds that somehow, hillary and obama had catapulted to the front.
if you re-watch the early coverage, you will see that there was equal interest in a number of candidates until you subtley observed that for every showing of a dodd, or biden face there were 4-6 showings of obama and hillary's faces.
it just snowballed from t here and now we are left with only these 2 questionable candidates.
when there was the dust-up over pakistan during the iowa race, biden was beginning to get some traction, but he had been relegated to 2nd tier for so long by the media that there wasn't sufficient time to get his message out.
these guys just weren't "flashy" enough even though they both were better statesmen with important ideas and abilities that I think we are going to miss in the near future.
too bad so much of the democratic party is treating this very important election like a season of american idol,
it's not about who makes you feel good, but who can really get the heavy lifting done posted 03/30/2008 at 19:23:43
the MSM stripped the party of any viable candidates to concentrate on these 2 "token novelty" candidates as they would make for good ratings.
they did this by denying status to the others by relegating them to "2nd tier status from the get-go thereby planting the idea in the populace's minds that somehow, hillary and obama had catapulted to the front.
if you re-watch the early coverage, you will see that there was equal interest in a number of candidates until you subtley observed that for every showing of a dodd, or biden face there were 4-6 showings of obama and hillary's faces.
it just snowballed from t here and now we are left with only these 2 questionable candidates.
when there was the dust-up over pakistan during the iowa race, biden was beginning to get some traction, but he had been relegated to 2nd tier for so long by the media that there wasn't sufficient time to get his message out.
these guys just weren't "flashy" enough even though they both were better statesmen with important ideas and abilities that I think we are going to miss in the near future.
too bad so much of the democratic party is treating this very important election like a season of american idol,
it's not about who makes you feel good, but who can really get the heavy lifting done posted 03/30/2008 at 19:23:43
McCain, Iraq, and Bush's Third Term
I watched the "frontline" documentary last night called "Bush's War" part 2
It lays out in complete detail just how his gang of plotters, incompetent schemers, sociopathetc thugs and blind believers got us into this disaster with our own blessing.
It makes you want to reach into the screen of your tv and throttle each and every one of the "players" as the speak for themselves in footage that is oh so revealing.
It is too bad that most of america was watching whatever pap was on the major stations instead of developing the rage of retribution that they should acquire by watching this expose. posted 03/26/2008 at 10:09:37
It lays out in complete detail just how his gang of plotters, incompetent schemers, sociopathetc thugs and blind believers got us into this disaster with our own blessing.
It makes you want to reach into the screen of your tv and throttle each and every one of the "players" as the speak for themselves in footage that is oh so revealing.
It is too bad that most of america was watching whatever pap was on the major stations instead of developing the rage of retribution that they should acquire by watching this expose. posted 03/26/2008 at 10:09:37
The Real Divide We Should Be Focused On...
If youwanta decent and realistic explanation about this communication gap I would refer you to an article in the WEd 03/26 NYT about Anthony Pagden's discourse on the 2500 year old difference between western and eastern cultures.
while it is very revealing, it is also depressing, because it literally says, we are 2 separate cultures with very little hope of finding commonality.
If theincompetent planners of bush's disaster had been even the most slightly aware of this cultural obyss, a war to being democracy to the east would have been rejected from the get-go.
to bad the guys in charge aren't truely well educated in anything beyond the acquisition of power and the mainenance of wealth. posted 03/26/2008 at 10:16:16
while it is very revealing, it is also depressing, because it literally says, we are 2 separate cultures with very little hope of finding commonality.
If theincompetent planners of bush's disaster had been even the most slightly aware of this cultural obyss, a war to being democracy to the east would have been rejected from the get-go.
to bad the guys in charge aren't truely well educated in anything beyond the acquisition of power and the mainenance of wealth. posted 03/26/2008 at 10:16:16
4,000 Souls
SonnyBono:
fortunately for the vietnamese, we weren't aware that they had any oil reserves.
we will leave iraq when the last drop of oil is finally consumed,
american's are too weak willed to every give up their love of obscenely wasteful transportation.
they are willing to sacrifice their nation'f finest so they can drag their rv's behind them in their endles search for diversion. posted 03/30/2008 at 00:46:22
fortunately for the vietnamese, we weren't aware that they had any oil reserves.
we will leave iraq when the last drop of oil is finally consumed,
american's are too weak willed to every give up their love of obscenely wasteful transportation.
they are willing to sacrifice their nation'f finest so they can drag their rv's behind them in their endles search for diversion. posted 03/30/2008 at 00:46:22
Cheney On 4,000 Dead Americans: They Volunteered
I am to assume that is why he never volunteered for vietnam? posted 03/24/2008 at 16:36:16
A Mosaic: 4,000 Americans Dead
I agree, this is a communal guilt we share for:
allowing him to assume office in the first place without protests on the street
not demanding inquiry about the evidence for war
not ousting any elected official who didn't demand impeachment
and lastly; ANYONE who actually voted for him in 2004 should have a brand placed on their cheek signifying that they are responsible for what has happened to this country. posted 03/24/2008 at 13:16:57
allowing him to assume office in the first place without protests on the street
not demanding inquiry about the evidence for war
not ousting any elected official who didn't demand impeachment
and lastly; ANYONE who actually voted for him in 2004 should have a brand placed on their cheek signifying that they are responsible for what has happened to this country. posted 03/24/2008 at 13:16:57
yoiu are correct, if a soldier dies later of his wounds, he is not listed as a combat casualty
how deceptive like hiding the home-coming coffins. what shame. posted 03/24/2008 at 13:12:56
how deceptive like hiding the home-coming coffins. what shame. posted 03/24/2008 at 13:12:56
Clinton, Obama Backers Go Off Message On Fox News Sunday
we are not a democracy, we are a republic. posted 03/24/2008 at 10:22:48
he IS green, untested, unknown and dangerously close to becoming a charicature of a cult leader.
when the general public gets a hint of the fanatic rheortic of his followers it will send a chill down the spine of Mr amd Mrs average citizen.
he isn't beating anyone yet.
polls are only as good as their interpreters. ...actually useless.
remember "dewey wins"
posted 03/24/2008 at 01:16:06
when the general public gets a hint of the fanatic rheortic of his followers it will send a chill down the spine of Mr amd Mrs average citizen.
he isn't beating anyone yet.
polls are only as good as their interpreters. ...actually useless.
remember "dewey wins"
posted 03/24/2008 at 01:16:06
the obama cultists just scream "liberal leftist fantatic hippies to the GOP moderates.
they will run screaming from the democratic party if these fanatics are highlighted at the convention.
their radical approch and strident adherence to left wing ideology are what has kept this party in the political wilderness for so long.
now, when victory should be a given, we are hamstrung with the " crazy uncle" of our party.
posted 03/24/2008 at 01:08:46
they will run screaming from the democratic party if these fanatics are highlighted at the convention.
their radical approch and strident adherence to left wing ideology are what has kept this party in the political wilderness for so long.
now, when victory should be a given, we are hamstrung with the " crazy uncle" of our party.
posted 03/24/2008 at 01:08:46
if you are referring to 68, the plan for the superdelegates came about after 80. with the debacle of 68 in their memories. posted 03/24/2008 at 01:01:27
the will of the people in mass went to hillary posted 03/24/2008 at 00:59:23
but it is happening, now and at a much worse level when the gop gets involved.
you can't defend agaisnt genuine crticism or doubt in voter's minds. posted 03/24/2008 at 00:58:05
you can't defend agaisnt genuine crticism or doubt in voter's minds. posted 03/24/2008 at 00:58:05
the purpose of the superdelegates was NOT to mirror the unbridled voice of the people.
we are a republic, not a democracy and just as the founding fathers found it prudent to insert the voice of the representative between the masses and the actual structure of power,
so too the democrats wanted the super delgate to be the intervening voice between the voice fo the masses and the power of the convention
.
they are exactly supposed to NOT REFLECT THE POPULAR VOTE
and if youcan't get that principle straight, what wlse don't you understand about american politics.
and for obama to keep stating that just further illustrates his disingenuous nature. posted 03/24/2008 at 00:54:26
we are a republic, not a democracy and just as the founding fathers found it prudent to insert the voice of the representative between the masses and the actual structure of power,
so too the democrats wanted the super delgate to be the intervening voice between the voice fo the masses and the power of the convention
.
they are exactly supposed to NOT REFLECT THE POPULAR VOTE
and if youcan't get that principle straight, what wlse don't you understand about american politics.
and for obama to keep stating that just further illustrates his disingenuous nature. posted 03/24/2008 at 00:54:26
If you are referring to the ones who have come out now, they are not so much supportign obama as they are sticking a knife int he back of the clintons for past deed
obama s just the repository of thier politically motivated moves.
if you notice, the truely elder statesmen of the party are still silent. posted 03/24/2008 at 00:48:03
obama s just the repository of thier politically motivated moves.
if you notice, the truely elder statesmen of the party are still silent. posted 03/24/2008 at 00:48:03
we have those "independent" news sources, they are cspan, npr, and pbs, and nobody really watches them accept the "choir"
we would much rather watch american idol
and you are seriously asking the "I WANT IT ALL AND I WANT IT NOW" nation to do without anytihing made or sold by corporate america.
talk about Pipe Dreams.
you have morally righteous concepts but a totally naive idea about how reality works.
that is the biggest problem I have with obama. morally righteous and naively impractical posted 03/23/2008 at 23:08:01
we would much rather watch american idol
and you are seriously asking the "I WANT IT ALL AND I WANT IT NOW" nation to do without anytihing made or sold by corporate america.
talk about Pipe Dreams.
you have morally righteous concepts but a totally naive idea about how reality works.
that is the biggest problem I have with obama. morally righteous and naively impractical posted 03/23/2008 at 23:08:01
the naivite of the obama crowd is truely beyond belief.
I realize that the younger generation lacks no amount of belief in their own self worth and self adulation but really,
to imply that "You" have the political wisdom to chart the course for the nation is a bit much.
do you even remember adlai stevenson, eugene mcarthy, george mdgovern ? I am sure you have read about jimmy carter.
do none of their biographies ring a bell with you.
You do not wrest power and wealth from your enemy by "asking" them to change or "demanding" that they acknowledge your needs and wants
.
that's what happens in an academic debatge, not the real world,
sure, you can get a lot of advocates with that type of approach, but most times the meek don't inherit the world, they get chewed up by it.
democrats are approximately 49% of the population and roughly 48% of them seemed somewhat interested in obama
that leaves about 76% who realize that we never had control of our government (except in Mr. Smith Goes to Washington-the movie)
Just where do you get the idea that the constitution guarantees you a "comfortable life"
we are a republic, not a democracy that has at its center unbridle capitalism. that is a dog eat dog environment where you have winners and losers (just like the stock market) it is a zero sum gain game..
I noticed early in the camaign that obama took as much money fromthe health care industry as hillary? what does that imply?
It means that unless you could miraculosly eliminate the supreme courst decision that corporations have a right to free speech (ie campaign contributions) than you don't stand a chance of acheiving much more than changing the white house china. posted 03/23/2008 at 22:55:07
I realize that the younger generation lacks no amount of belief in their own self worth and self adulation but really,
to imply that "You" have the political wisdom to chart the course for the nation is a bit much.
do you even remember adlai stevenson, eugene mcarthy, george mdgovern ? I am sure you have read about jimmy carter.
do none of their biographies ring a bell with you.
You do not wrest power and wealth from your enemy by "asking" them to change or "demanding" that they acknowledge your needs and wants
.
that's what happens in an academic debatge, not the real world,
sure, you can get a lot of advocates with that type of approach, but most times the meek don't inherit the world, they get chewed up by it.
democrats are approximately 49% of the population and roughly 48% of them seemed somewhat interested in obama
that leaves about 76% who realize that we never had control of our government (except in Mr. Smith Goes to Washington-the movie)
Just where do you get the idea that the constitution guarantees you a "comfortable life"
we are a republic, not a democracy that has at its center unbridle capitalism. that is a dog eat dog environment where you have winners and losers (just like the stock market) it is a zero sum gain game..
I noticed early in the camaign that obama took as much money fromthe health care industry as hillary? what does that imply?
It means that unless you could miraculosly eliminate the supreme courst decision that corporations have a right to free speech (ie campaign contributions) than you don't stand a chance of acheiving much more than changing the white house china. posted 03/23/2008 at 22:55:07
I am a democrat who voted for JFK.
How dare you imply I don't belong here.
It's just that I can see a disaster coming and you can't.
obama is our Eugene Mcarthy and our Jimmy Carter all rolled into one. Oh, and don't forget Adlai Stevenson and Mcgovern,
can't you see where this is going.
we made a huge mistake allowing the MSM to cut down our candidate pool from the get-go to these 2 "token novelty" candidates.
Now we are boxed in with no good options other than a darkhorse candidate to replace both of these losers.
posted 03/23/2008 at 22:22:07
How dare you imply I don't belong here.
It's just that I can see a disaster coming and you can't.
obama is our Eugene Mcarthy and our Jimmy Carter all rolled into one. Oh, and don't forget Adlai Stevenson and Mcgovern,
can't you see where this is going.
we made a huge mistake allowing the MSM to cut down our candidate pool from the get-go to these 2 "token novelty" candidates.
Now we are boxed in with no good options other than a darkhorse candidate to replace both of these losers.
posted 03/23/2008 at 22:22:07
just how naive are you.
he entered the stage because the MSM thought a black man vs woman contest during this too long primary season would insure high ratings.
they elevated these 2 "token novelty" canidates and relegated the other experienced statesmen to 2nd tier and zeroed in on these 2
the others disappeared because the media wouldn't give them air time in order to dote on these two.
don't think obama walks on water. he was placed where he is because it makes good ratings.
there were far better answers from dodd, biden and richardson during the original debates, than the half-baked, slick, non-commital responses from obama.
now we are stuck with this juvenile catfight until the convention and then the GOP can take over the demolition of whichever one is left. posted 03/23/2008 at 22:12:24
he entered the stage because the MSM thought a black man vs woman contest during this too long primary season would insure high ratings.
they elevated these 2 "token novelty" canidates and relegated the other experienced statesmen to 2nd tier and zeroed in on these 2
the others disappeared because the media wouldn't give them air time in order to dote on these two.
don't think obama walks on water. he was placed where he is because it makes good ratings.
there were far better answers from dodd, biden and richardson during the original debates, than the half-baked, slick, non-commital responses from obama.
now we are stuck with this juvenile catfight until the convention and then the GOP can take over the demolition of whichever one is left. posted 03/23/2008 at 22:12:24
do you really think richardson "sold" his endorsement for a beer and mexico?
how long have you been following the political world? posted 03/23/2008 at 22:04:05
how long have you been following the political world? posted 03/23/2008 at 22:04:05
I am continually amazed at the tunnel vision of the obama crowd.
No matter what the criticism of your guy, instead of dealing with it you offer only a counter-comparison to hillary or mccain.
tearing them down doesn't bolster the qualifications of your guy.
what you should be coming to grips with is that we are stuck with 3 very unqualified candidates for the nation's highest office just at the time we need a sterling statesman at the helm.
If I find your candidate lacking, it doesn't automatically imply that I find the other guys better.
they are all second rate and unworthy.
If we were smart democrats, we would find a new ticket of unbloodied and more experience people for a ticket that might stand a chance of success.
I wish you fans of obama would get past his charisma and rhetoric and take a cold hard look and the 75% of the nation that isn't on board your change train.change may be needed, but not at this critical moment.
obama's time would have been 2016 posted 03/23/2008 at 22:00:51
No matter what the criticism of your guy, instead of dealing with it you offer only a counter-comparison to hillary or mccain.
tearing them down doesn't bolster the qualifications of your guy.
what you should be coming to grips with is that we are stuck with 3 very unqualified candidates for the nation's highest office just at the time we need a sterling statesman at the helm.
If I find your candidate lacking, it doesn't automatically imply that I find the other guys better.
they are all second rate and unworthy.
If we were smart democrats, we would find a new ticket of unbloodied and more experience people for a ticket that might stand a chance of success.
I wish you fans of obama would get past his charisma and rhetoric and take a cold hard look and the 75% of the nation that isn't on board your change train.change may be needed, but not at this critical moment.
obama's time would have been 2016 posted 03/23/2008 at 22:00:51
once they become the shills of multinational corporations, it isn't in theri interest to "protect" our nation, just their bottom line.
It appears that the internet is the only remaining bastion of non-corporate owned public speech and then you have to investigate just who owns what to be sure. posted 03/23/2008 at 21:51:53
It appears that the internet is the only remaining bastion of non-corporate owned public speech and then you have to investigate just who owns what to be sure. posted 03/23/2008 at 21:51:53
If you researched, the reason for the superdelegates was to insure that we not have a repeat of the 80 convention.
I appreciate that many of you were not born or very young, then but the superdelegates were installed to act as a counter to the pledged delgates.
where do you get the misguided idea that they must vote as their state voted. they are to do exactly the opposite.
they are to insert a more reasoned voice into the process
remember, we are not a democracy, we are a republic. the founding fathers realized that you do not want to place the final decisions in the hands of the "people".
they removed that voice by inserting congressmen to act as arbiters, muchlike the superdelegates.
let these more seasoned people evaluate the situation at the convention and choose WHOEVER they feel can be successful in november, even if it isn't the two we have as a choce now. posted 03/23/2008 at 21:47:52
I appreciate that many of you were not born or very young, then but the superdelegates were installed to act as a counter to the pledged delgates.
where do you get the misguided idea that they must vote as their state voted. they are to do exactly the opposite.
they are to insert a more reasoned voice into the process
remember, we are not a democracy, we are a republic. the founding fathers realized that you do not want to place the final decisions in the hands of the "people".
they removed that voice by inserting congressmen to act as arbiters, muchlike the superdelegates.
let these more seasoned people evaluate the situation at the convention and choose WHOEVER they feel can be successful in november, even if it isn't the two we have as a choce now. posted 03/23/2008 at 21:47:52
you see how you are..
You assume that if I criticize obama I am a hillary supporter.
What makes you come to that conclusion other than your defensive posture and single-minded vision.
I don't care for hillary OR obama
but while hillary has been more than dragged over the coals by not only the entire GOP but you obama supporters with such relish.;
obama is still an untried, unteseed, unvetted and unknown quantity.
I don't want either of them.
they are both flawed and damaged to the extent that the GOP will be glorying in the trainwreck we are creating all the way to nov.
at least hillary is accustomed to the name calling and rolls with it.
Obama people just get defensive and say. oh yea, and your mother wears army boots.
they never digest the implications of the justifiable criticism.
posted 03/23/2008 at 18:54:04
You assume that if I criticize obama I am a hillary supporter.
What makes you come to that conclusion other than your defensive posture and single-minded vision.
I don't care for hillary OR obama
but while hillary has been more than dragged over the coals by not only the entire GOP but you obama supporters with such relish.;
obama is still an untried, unteseed, unvetted and unknown quantity.
I don't want either of them.
they are both flawed and damaged to the extent that the GOP will be glorying in the trainwreck we are creating all the way to nov.
at least hillary is accustomed to the name calling and rolls with it.
Obama people just get defensive and say. oh yea, and your mother wears army boots.
they never digest the implications of the justifiable criticism.
posted 03/23/2008 at 18:54:04
what he "owes" him is the vp spot posted 03/23/2008 at 18:45:51
I am tepid about hillary, but if obama gets the nomination, I will not be voting for him. I will either not vote, or, depending on how obama carries himself through nov, I will vote for Mc cain.
four years of obama is a frightening concept to me in these troubling times. I do not want a green neophyte learning on the job at this most critical time in our history.
as this recession worsens, risking it all on an untested commodity will not be appealing to John Q. Public.
Why do you obama ideologues think everything will just come your way because you wish it so Are you wearing those ruby slippers? posted 03/23/2008 at 18:11:44
four years of obama is a frightening concept to me in these troubling times. I do not want a green neophyte learning on the job at this most critical time in our history.
as this recession worsens, risking it all on an untested commodity will not be appealing to John Q. Public.
Why do you obama ideologues think everything will just come your way because you wish it so Are you wearing those ruby slippers? posted 03/23/2008 at 18:11:44
you obamaites keep forgetting that this is an ultimate contest between the dems and the republicans.
your only response to any criticism of your guy is:
Oh yeah, and your mother wears army boots.
reallly, you should be taking these criticisms of him and seeing if they leave him open to REPUBLICAN attacks.
putting soen hillary might make you feel good, but it down't necessarily rais up obama.
Your all seem so ideologically dogmatic and living in that ideal world in your own mind.
the other half of the country, won't be so light-handed in their observations of obama and your response can't be Oh yea, your guy is 3 times as bad as ours, so there... posted 03/23/2008 at 17:58:35
your only response to any criticism of your guy is:
Oh yeah, and your mother wears army boots.
reallly, you should be taking these criticisms of him and seeing if they leave him open to REPUBLICAN attacks.
putting soen hillary might make you feel good, but it down't necessarily rais up obama.
Your all seem so ideologically dogmatic and living in that ideal world in your own mind.
the other half of the country, won't be so light-handed in their observations of obama and your response can't be Oh yea, your guy is 3 times as bad as ours, so there... posted 03/23/2008 at 17:58:35
I am sure obama realizes his weakness in the hispanic community and if richardson turns out to be his running mate, will it all make sense to you then...
with long tern associations with the likes of wright and rezko, why does everyone treat obama like a holy man.
he seems quite capable of making a deal like that for his own political advantage. posted 03/23/2008 at 17:24:58
with long tern associations with the likes of wright and rezko, why does everyone treat obama like a holy man.
he seems quite capable of making a deal like that for his own political advantage. posted 03/23/2008 at 17:24:58
Clinton, Obama Reconciliation Becoming More And More Impossible
If we bring in obama and he sits there for 4 years unable to accomplish anything, then just how good is that for this country.
Until the obama camp produces the list of 61 senators and 180+ representative who have already pledged to board this obama hope train and buck their K-street sponsors and vote for obama's agenda,, it remais highly skeptical that obama will be any more effective than Jimmy Carter.
and after of 2 years of the reid/pelosi debacle followed by 4 years of obama inaction, the GOP will forever label the democratic party as the "do-nothing" party.
Yea, I think that is a good plan..
I would rather let Mccain inherit bush's soiled mess and let him flounder for 4 years
then send in a truely capable and experienced statesman in 2012. posted 03/24/2008 at 00:24:12
Until the obama camp produces the list of 61 senators and 180+ representative who have already pledged to board this obama hope train and buck their K-street sponsors and vote for obama's agenda,, it remais highly skeptical that obama will be any more effective than Jimmy Carter.
and after of 2 years of the reid/pelosi debacle followed by 4 years of obama inaction, the GOP will forever label the democratic party as the "do-nothing" party.
Yea, I think that is a good plan..
I would rather let Mccain inherit bush's soiled mess and let him flounder for 4 years
then send in a truely capable and experienced statesman in 2012. posted 03/24/2008 at 00:24:12
well, I wouldn't be opposed to letting the far left wing of the party taking their unrealistic c goals and making a go of it on their own.
too bad it would and will provide the republicans with a victory in nov.
I can't believe that I am saying this,
this victory should have been a no-brainer, but this egoist obama couldn't wait unti lhis time had arrived (2016) and jumped in and cause this catastophe.
I am not therefore, defending hillary. she should have known that she would never get the white house.
these 2 "token novelty" candidates took the wind out of the true experienced statement we had to offer and have decimated our chance of success.
a pox on both of them and their tunnel-visioned self centered followers.
and I deeply resent these fanatics questioning my democratic credentials because I am wise enough to see a scam and a pathetic has-been when I see one posted 03/24/2008 at 00:15:10
too bad it would and will provide the republicans with a victory in nov.
I can't believe that I am saying this,
this victory should have been a no-brainer, but this egoist obama couldn't wait unti lhis time had arrived (2016) and jumped in and cause this catastophe.
I am not therefore, defending hillary. she should have known that she would never get the white house.
these 2 "token novelty" candidates took the wind out of the true experienced statement we had to offer and have decimated our chance of success.
a pox on both of them and their tunnel-visioned self centered followers.
and I deeply resent these fanatics questioning my democratic credentials because I am wise enough to see a scam and a pathetic has-been when I see one posted 03/24/2008 at 00:15:10
keep up with the news, he just sold the vp spot to richardson in his attempt to pick up the latino vote.
I am sorry to say that mccan is looking more stable and presidential by the hour.
not in my eyes, but in the eyes of John Q. Public who is feeling a fear of loss of job and home.
a fear that will increase as we approach november.
Hope doesn't mean squat to someone fearing a loss that great.
he is going to want a tried and reliable system that he can trust, not a hope and a prayer for "something new" that is untested and vague. posted 03/24/2008 at 00:05:35
I am sorry to say that mccan is looking more stable and presidential by the hour.
not in my eyes, but in the eyes of John Q. Public who is feeling a fear of loss of job and home.
a fear that will increase as we approach november.
Hope doesn't mean squat to someone fearing a loss that great.
he is going to want a tried and reliable system that he can trust, not a hope and a prayer for "something new" that is untested and vague. posted 03/24/2008 at 00:05:35
we are beyond that.
as much as I hate to admit it. the supporters from each camp have so poisoned the water that there is no graceful solution short of dumping them both and offering neutral and undamaged candidates on a new ticket.
that way neither side can claim victory or admit defeat.
they should both withdraw for the good of the party as the GOP will slaughter either one of them based on what they have so willingly provided to them.
I am embarrassed by both of them. and I have been voting democratic since JFK. posted 03/23/2008 at 23:59:24
as much as I hate to admit it. the supporters from each camp have so poisoned the water that there is no graceful solution short of dumping them both and offering neutral and undamaged candidates on a new ticket.
that way neither side can claim victory or admit defeat.
they should both withdraw for the good of the party as the GOP will slaughter either one of them based on what they have so willingly provided to them.
I am embarrassed by both of them. and I have been voting democratic since JFK. posted 03/23/2008 at 23:59:24
we don't need someone who's main qualification is that he isn't bush.
what is happening to our nation is serious business.
I am so disappointed in my party for jumping on these 2 badwagons without looking farther down the road than tomorrow.
My only hope is that the party elders tell them both to get lost.
they are bringing disrepsect to our party.
this public catfight is unbearable to watch becuaue it is invigorating the GOP and tarnishing what ever shred of respect the democrats can muster after the reid/pelosi debacle.
we are beginning to look like a party that isn't capable of anything but being a megahone for zealots and fanatics. posted 03/23/2008 at 23:52:59
what is happening to our nation is serious business.
I am so disappointed in my party for jumping on these 2 badwagons without looking farther down the road than tomorrow.
My only hope is that the party elders tell them both to get lost.
they are bringing disrepsect to our party.
this public catfight is unbearable to watch becuaue it is invigorating the GOP and tarnishing what ever shred of respect the democrats can muster after the reid/pelosi debacle.
we are beginning to look like a party that isn't capable of anything but being a megahone for zealots and fanatics. posted 03/23/2008 at 23:52:59
it would be different if there were a ghost of a chance of him actualizing any of his goals.
when you produce the list of the 61 senators and 180+ representatives who have signed on to this obama train and are willing to buck their K-street sponsors so you can 'have it all', GIVE ME A CALL
until then, get a grip on reality.
posted 03/23/2008 at 23:45:37
when you produce the list of the 61 senators and 180+ representatives who have signed on to this obama train and are willing to buck their K-street sponsors so you can 'have it all', GIVE ME A CALL
until then, get a grip on reality.
posted 03/23/2008 at 23:45:37
If what he is saying is attractive to people like you, then yes, I would consider not voting for him . I do not find his platitudes realistic or actionable
he is offering "the world" to the "I WANT IT ALL AND I WANT IT NOW" crowd.
He is Don Quixote and you are sancho panzo
we definitely don't need that impracticality at a tiime like this in our nation's historyr
emember, you are just 48% of 48% of the voting population. Not really a statistically vital number. posted 03/23/2008 at 23:41:18
he is offering "the world" to the "I WANT IT ALL AND I WANT IT NOW" crowd.
He is Don Quixote and you are sancho panzo
we definitely don't need that impracticality at a tiime like this in our nation's historyr
emember, you are just 48% of 48% of the voting population. Not really a statistically vital number. posted 03/23/2008 at 23:41:18
the only thing this country promises is life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. not the guarantee of happiness.
anything else is left to the initiative of the citizen.
the constitution says we all have the same rights, not a right to an equal share of the wealth.
we have tried utopian societies in thi\s country from its get-go and ALL of them have failed.
get off the obama dream train and understand that human nature and the vagueries of life don't guarantee you happiness, that dream was only promised by your mother.
not for want of trying, but because of human nature. you will never get what obama is promising. posted 03/23/2008 at 23:27:22
anything else is left to the initiative of the citizen.
the constitution says we all have the same rights, not a right to an equal share of the wealth.
we have tried utopian societies in thi\s country from its get-go and ALL of them have failed.
get off the obama dream train and understand that human nature and the vagueries of life don't guarantee you happiness, that dream was only promised by your mother.
not for want of trying, but because of human nature. you will never get what obama is promising. posted 03/23/2008 at 23:27:22
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on this premise, he was swept into office twice by many of the then "reagan democrats"
they were all too willing to follow him when they thought "shrinking the government" meant the elimination of waste and fraud and the strangluation of such "liberal": instituttions as the national endowment for the arts and humanities, the epa and other such entitites.
what they weren't paying attention to was the real agenda for shrinking the goverment.
It was to eliminate regulations, health standards and worker protections that the democrats had installed since the great depression and it's aftermath. It was for the benefit of the growing corporatocracy that was to eventually rule the US
Now, these same reagan democrats are flocking to obama in the hopes that he can reverse what they enabled reagan to do.
by falling for the republican line of "getting government off their backs" they also removed any form of government protection.
now they want obama to bring back these protections, these guarantees.
it isn't going to happen, corporations now control the wealth, the communications media, the governments and the military industrial complex.
just what wiggle room does obama have?
in an ideal world obama expresses that to which we should aspire
this isn't an ideal world and what he is promising, while it may be righteous, isn't actionable. posted 04/19/2008 at 19:35:09