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Does Evangelical Giving Do the World Good?

Posted: 04/16/09 05:07 PM ET

This week, Barack Obama is expected to sign into law the GIVE Act, which aims to increase volunteering. It gives young people a way to pay for education with public service. Some right wingers have been squawking because the plan excludes religious activities like church attendance and outreach from the social service hours that can be applied for credit. Personally, I'm relieved. I want my taxes to pay for programs with clear benefits, and I want the wall separating church and state repaired. But before we secular types get all high and mighty we should take a look at why some people think that faith-based programs are necessary for the good of society.

Several studies (e.g. here and here) show that religious people give more dollars and volunteer hours to charity than do nonbelievers. Evangelical Christians have been trumpeting these findings: No matter what you may think about our exclusive offer of salvation, our religion is a social good.

As a former Evangelical I tend toward skepticism, especially when it comes to data that have been assembled and promoted by ideologues. And yet I'm inclined to suspect that these results tap into something real. Sociologists have found that tribal identity increases altruism toward other members of the tribe (though at the expense of outsiders). In many ways, a religion functions as a tribe. Besides ordinary in-group/out-group effects, religions explicitly teach that we are made to serve something larger than ourselves. They encourage members to give of themselves to gods, co-religionists and others -- in part by promising deferred compensation. But perhaps even more importantly, they provide a community and structure for doing so.

Let's assume that religious people are more generous or altruistic. An interesting follow-up question is this: Where is this generosity directed? Does it serve the cause of goodness? By a scientific definition of altruism, suicide bombing is an altruistic act supported by religious attendance. It is the individual sacrificing his life (and reproductive potential) in the service of another individual or the greater collective -- in this case Allah, Islam, the Muslim brotherhood. But is it as a social good?

Within conservative Christianity, a tremendous amount of donated time and money is solicited for conversion activities: Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Is religious recruiting a social good? On this, most evangelists and I would have opposite opinions, at least about Christian recruiting. (We might be more in agreement about the proselytizing done by Hare Krishnas or Scientologists.) It is only fair to give evangelical missionaries credit for their intentions. If you truly believe the unsaved are going to be tortured eternally, then there is no greater good than to spend your life saving their souls. By comparison, nothing else matters. A missionary, operating on this premise, may experience herself as highly generous, because she is.

She also might protest that independent of afterlife benefits, accepting Jesus makes people happy in this life, here and now. This is true. Sometimes. Jesus worship can fill people with deep joy. It can get alcoholics to stop drinking and abusers to stop abusing. It can save marriages. But sometimes the opposite happens. (See thousands of testimonials at exChristian.net.) Pentecostals point to happy African church-going children singing and dancing. A former Pentecostal might point to the African children who have been kicked out of their communities or killed because new converts to Pentecostalism saw them as witches and took their Bibles literally. The net here and now benefits of proselytizing are arguable.

A darker way to look at Christian "outreach" is as an example of how viral beliefs, sometimes called meme complexes, can exploit the human tendency toward altruism. What I mean is that a belief set can redirect altruistic do-gooder impulses away from activities that actually serve human well-being and onto activities that serve to replicate the belief set itself. When the Asian tsunami hit, a highly successful Seattle mega church directed members to do three things: pray for people who were affected, give to Mars Hill Church, and give to the Mars Hill church-building work in India. Why not reverse this -- pray for Mars Hill church, pray for our missionary work, and give money to the people who were affected? Churches that make suggestions like these are, on average, shrinking. Churches that follow the Mars Hill model are growing.

In the first three pages of his book, Breaking the Spell, Daniel Dennett beautifully narrates how a similar redirection occurs in nature. An ant climbs to the top of a stem of grass and lingers there. Why? Not because it is adaptive for the ant. Rather, another organism has taken charge of the ant's brain and to reproduce it needs the ant to be eaten by a cow. When a person's altruistic impulses are directed toward winning converts, it is valid to ask whether they are actually serving human well-being or simply serving a mind virus.

If we don't count their recruiting activities, do Evangelical Christians actually give more than non-religious? Do they give more to things that we humans pretty much agree are social goods? Sorry, all you fellow secularists, though the gap narrows the answer still appears to be yes. Besides outreach, giving to churches funds what economists call "club goods". Churches often do a wonderful job of providing and organizing members services: warm meals for kids with sick parents, adventures for teenagers, housing for young adults, support during bereavement, even free counseling or legal services. And with regard to outsiders, even if food, medical care, or friendship is offered primarily as bait to set a fish hook, the food and medical care are real.

But even beyond the money given to churches, religious people appear to give more to ordinary charities than secular folks do. At least based on self report data, religious participation and religious giving are positively correlated with giving to nonreligious charities like educational institutions, social services, even blood banks. This appears to hold true for the 40ish percent of Americans who self-describe as Evangelical or born again as well as their more theologically open counterparts. If this makes those of us who are freethinkers squirm a bit, perhaps it should.

You might protest that that charity should be only a way station on the road to justice, and that your energies are better spent working for structural change. Many secular folks and liberal people of faith believe this is true. I know I do. As a non-theist, I once sat on the nonprofit board of an organization called the Washington Association of Churches because their mission was my mission: Do justice, love mercy, walk humbly. Like me, they sought solutions that went beyond charity.

But even if justice is the destination, those way stations are still needed. Most of us agree that both generosity and justice are virtues. We prefer to live in a world where both are in rich supply. Maybe, now that freethinkers are coming out of the closet it is time for us to begin thinking about how to create our own communities and structures that empower personal generosity. Since we don't have a sales mandate or a promise of treasure laid up in Heaven, we -- unlike many Christians -- are free to give without expecting something back except maybe a bit of good will. Recently Seattle Atheists organized a blood drive for members. Now, that's what I'm talking about.

 
 
 

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This week, Barack Obama is expected to sign into law the GIVE Act, which aims to increase volunteering. It gives young people a way to pay for education with public service. Some right wingers have ...
This week, Barack Obama is expected to sign into law the GIVE Act, which aims to increase volunteering. It gives young people a way to pay for education with public service. Some right wingers have ...
 
 
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02:38 AM on 04/22/2009
Regardless of religion, nurture is a part of our nature, nurture is a universal constant. Agreed, there are exceptions, but this is aberrant behavior rather than the rule. In others words, God has nothing to do with it, evolution has everything to do with it, period, full stop.
08:51 PM on 04/22/2009
If I understand the point of the article, "God" (the idea of God) is apparently an effective motivator for giving in many cases. Certainly not the only motivator -- the Jains are deeply altruistic, but have little focus on a diety, and some (including a personal friend) are either atheist or agnostic.
The _idea_ of evolution (as opposed to actual evolution) was key in "Social Darwinism", which in many cases ran completely counter to altruistic giving.
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Bob Griffin
10:41 PM on 04/22/2009
God... you're dense! Never mind.
02:13 PM on 04/19/2009
Ms. Tarico always intrigues when tackling rad-religion.

But reference to "suicide bomber" rather than bloodier "ethnic cleansing" threw me for a loop.

Her reference may in measure account for the "suicide bomber" meme formation.

Note that "suicide bombing" can readily be ended.

Here's how - just have the USA equip Palestinians with F-16s, munitions & arms caches, modern tanks, drones, and hi-tech ways to obliterate then presto "suicide bombing" - in practice and as cultural meme - vanishes.
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dctackett
03:43 PM on 04/20/2009
the point was that suicide bombing is an example of an altruistic act inspired by religion that is not a social good... regardless of how bloody it is or how it possibly can be stopped.
05:13 PM on 04/18/2009
I'd love to know what you think of the Mormons who decided to Baptize Jews who perished in concentration camps, posthumously.

These people's arrogance is beyond any words I could describe. They think they are "saving" these people's souls. How dare they. The Jews are a chosen people and will always make it to heaven, even though these evangelical MORONS don't believe that.

SUCH ARROGANCE!!
TryToBeFlexible
MENSA, Gay, Atheist, Believer in justice, age 57
09:39 AM on 04/20/2009
Since baptism is just a silly superstitious ritual, and since dead people don't care, this is pretty harmless, compared to the true damage that the mormon church does via working against human and civil rights for the millions of LGBT people in this country.
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dctackett
03:46 PM on 04/20/2009
is it really more arrogant that assuming that you are a "chosen people" that will always make it to heaven?...

either way they basically think the same thing "our people get the free ride into heaven"... the mormons are just trying to help the other people out, no matter how ridiculous the whole thing is.
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Grada3784
Dogmatic Dictators, believers or not, not welcome
11:53 AM on 04/18/2009
Totally depends on what strings are attached.
09:37 AM on 04/18/2009
Proselytizing by religious groups through conditional charitable giving or otherwise, is wrong.

Activities under the Give Act will have to be monitored extremely carefully to ensure that no religion is involved.

Belief in any supernatural god requires an astonishing lack of reason; proselytizing the belief requires an outrageous arrogance.

But fear that the unconverted are missing out or headed for the burning flames of hell is not what 21st Century proselytizing is truly about. It's about the collection plates. As millions follow reason and abandon religion, collection plates sit empty.

That's why most Catholics are now from South America. That 's why Africa is swarming with Christian fundamentalists handing out scraps of education in rickety shacks, while building massive churches where future congregations of Africans can fill their collection plates.

If those Christian vultures in Africa were sincere, with no ulterior motive, they would hand out the education with no mention of their religion or expectations of conversion.
02:48 AM on 04/18/2009
Personally I give a lot through a church that is not my own--The Salvation Army. The Army does not build mansions for its leaders, and while it does preach the gospels as it sees them, the Army views are the same as those of the people they serve. My lefty gay friendly highly educated church members do not speak the language of the downtrodden although we sympathize. I recommend Vachel Lindsey's poem "General William Booth Enters into Heaven." Lindsey was a voice for justice and progress long years ago, a sort of non-musical Bob Dylan/Woody Guthrie of his time.
02:49 PM on 04/17/2009
During the Potato Famine the Anglicans provided charity in the form of soup with only a teensy-tiny condition--conversion.

Those who accepted this "charity" to feed their starving children, they were called "Soupers" by both the Anglicans and the Roman Catholics.

Proselytizing, is simply a form of reinforcing a particular belief, there was a chap at Univ of Wisconsin who articulated a theory called ~hierarchy of needs~...

Organized religion is like a ponzi scheme or, a business model which is based aggregation not, organic growth.

In my opinion; this because of Stoicism is the primary basis of Monotheism, I think it's unfortunate that Epicurean-ism was discarded.
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10:10 AM on 04/18/2009
This approach is still used today. I was invited to speak at a conference of Hindu's a few years back. They told stories of evangelical missionaries working to convert poor rural people in India. In one village, the missionaries had a well dug or drilled by the church. but only church members could get water there. The other women still had to walk a half hour out of town to get water.

In other places, i was told, the missionaries build schools. The public schools are poor and underfunded, so parents send their children there--to a place where there are books and paper. But the children are taught that their parents gods are false and their worship is evil, undermining the ability of the parents to do their job.
01:14 PM on 04/18/2009
Those are all anecdotal and I could tell you many stories in which missionaries brought food, water, medical care to villages without any strings attached. I will agree there is a certain degree of ulterior motive - but I would venture that is true for all believer and non-believer. And perhaps I read your article incorrectly but it sounded like the Seattle Atheists had just had a blood drive whose benefits were only extended to its own members. Sounds just like your stories. I'm as left as they come on government programs, social programs, gay marriage, death penalty, etc. But I'm also a devout member of a church that does good works all over the place, including free space for AA meetings etc. So, I have a hard time with articles like yours that seem dedicated to taking potshots at religion based on anecdotal evidence. And I get frustrated because the non-believing left looks down its collective nose at people like me.
02:08 PM on 04/17/2009
Any act which is conditioned; is by definition not charity; rather, it's quid pro quo...

A business transaction comes to mind as good metaphor.

Giving should be done anonymously, and the greatest gift is that which both most precious, and give with no expectation of reciprocity.

Valerie, your post resonates deeply with me; thank you for your gift!
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Valerie Tarico
10:06 AM on 04/18/2009
Yes, the expectation of return makes it difficult to weigh generosity. In the case of people who believe they are heaven-bound, economists actually do research to look at the effects of "afterlife consumption" as they try to predict here and now behavior.

And yet, even for those of us who give for the delight of giving, isn't there something selfish in that, too? I don't know how you get away from it.

In the end, I the only question really that it seems like we may be able to answer the one about doing good and doing harm--this world--independent of motives.
10:16 PM on 04/18/2009
I am selfish, I give because it makes me feel good. Methinks there are three drivers:
1) A trade--
2) self-looting, what I mean by this; is that some people give as a form of self-flagellation-
3) giving unconditionally, without any sort of qualification-

I agree, it is the ultimate selfish act to make the world a better place. So, red line #3, ouch!

I have had the honor to meet Dr. Muhammad Yunnis, Nobel Laureate-( Peace Prize 2006 for creating a micro-finance bank for Bangladeshi Women); which has serves two purposes:
1) breaking the ugly misogynistic (another lovely hallmark of Abe & Zapporah) treatment of women &
2) Lifting millions of people out of poverty

His gift to me was quite simple: he told me to believe that one person can change the world.

Love
TryToBeFlexible
MENSA, Gay, Atheist, Believer in justice, age 57
10:29 AM on 04/17/2009
In this article, you don't mention the horrible damage churches do to the millions of LGBT persons in this country, and around the world. Hundreds of thousands of teenagers committing suicide, thousands more thrown out of their homes in the name of Jesus, to be raped and murdered on the streets. While these same churches pat themselves on the back and proclaim that they are the source of all morality and goodness.
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anelder
01:35 PM on 04/17/2009
i Think your confusing the few with the many. True there are many Christians who follow the non Christian behavior of throwing the 'so called' sinner out. I don't think it's the norm.

As to the good works bit, it's the teaching, and my belief, that the giving is not enough. There has to be the heart involved. It has to be non judgemental. It has to be to all men, not just those in your pew in church. You cannot derive credits for doling out the money and calling that enough. It cannot have strings attached. It must be from the charity of our hearts and souls.
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dctackett
03:57 PM on 04/20/2009
Though you have some points, that is not what the article was addressing.
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tailgateshirts
09:51 AM on 04/17/2009
Its like saying that big business and republicans donate huge sums of money to causes to "appear good" and then with the other hand find ways to take all that money back.

These people give lots of money, get the people to convert, then make them become church warriors or donate tons of money to the church... so they get it all back anyways
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dctackett
04:29 PM on 04/20/2009
often times they don't have to really "take all that money back" because they are donating to their own causes... it's like donating it to yourself and being able to get a tax break for it.
01:03 AM on 04/17/2009
Not all religion gives with strings attached. The Szu Chi Foundation is a Buddhist charity that gives without asking back in return. Founded by a nun when she saw a pregnant native lady in Taiwan bleeding and turned away by a hospital because she had no money to pay. She vowed to help the poor and started making and selling hand made shoes to save for a hospital. When people became to know of her good intention they donated genorously and help her realize her vow.
Not only is the hospital for those who cannot afford to pay it is also staffed by donors. Now all over the World Tzu Chi Foundations have blossomed. In Asia people donate old news paper and other recyclable items for them to sell for charity purpose. The people working inside are volunteers. They help people all over the world irregardless of race, religion or nation. They help out of compassion and not to propogate Buddhism. Buddhist are forbidden to perform evangelism to promote their religion. A person can only become a Buddhist because of her/his own merits.
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brooklyncitizen
Soror quaerens lucem
12:07 AM on 04/17/2009
In City of God St. Augustine states that our life mission is two-pronged- to live as benignly as possible and to be of service to others. He doesn't say how we are to go about doing this and he doesn't mention propagation of faith though yes that was always a part of the Church's mission.

St. Augustine was ahead of his time . This teaching is beautiful in that it leaves "God" out of the equation and it also mirrors Buddhist precepts.

Propagation of faith or any recruitment or mission work for the sole purpose of conversion has always made me personally uncomfortable though I do identify as a Christian.I am not familiar with Evangelicals but I do know that the Christian commitment to serve has saved many.

As with all human activity the intentions may not always stem from a high place but if the action is still helping someone in need then I can't judge it as "bad".(i.e., Salvation Army).

Ultimately if giving is a way of life it cannot be about an expectation or a desired outcome.
08:03 PM on 04/16/2009
"No, children. We don't eat the bibles."--South Park.
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Pretty far so good
05:46 PM on 04/16/2009
I personally don't trust churches and religious organizations to disperse my charity money. Much of it goes to lawyers defending baby raping clergy and lawsuits resulting from the actions of those monsters. Much of it goes to salaries for charity management and accountants. Then there are those rich TV evangelists, crowding as many new Cadillacs into their already overstuffed garages, and living in luxury while the real poor continue to suffer. Charity in the name of a religion doesn't make it better. If you donate blood, there are even ways people can use the money to line the pockets of the unworthy. Association of Fundraising Professionals, American Institute of Philanthropy, Wise Giving Alliance; these are a few places you can check out a charity before you spend your generous dollars.
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Soror quaerens lucem
12:19 AM on 04/17/2009
Such cynicism .

There are many active and interesting Churches in NYC that serve all sorts of communities in need. As a kid growing up I remember being able to go to summer camp because the Catholic Church paid for it and no we weren't victimized in any way....escaping NYC summers was great. I also remember the food pantry we were dragged to when our dad was laid off. And there were a couple of Xmas where our gifts came from the Catholic Church's donations. These were all different Churches btw and the beauty of it is that our dad was a marxist atheist and never had a kind word for the Church...so we didn't even have to attend. LOL

But the kindness is not forgotten.I really can't speak to the Evangelists...that is an entirely different world.
TryToBeFlexible
MENSA, Gay, Atheist, Believer in justice, age 57
01:27 PM on 04/17/2009
What about the gay kids who get tormented, beaten, and tortured, due to the teachings of the catholic church? I guess that is OK, since they are "inherently disorderd" per the pope. I guess god is just not fair. Some are born to salvation, and for some, it is OK to do anything to them you want to cuz they don't matter.
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Ajita
04:51 PM on 04/16/2009
It should also be mentioned that although religions (the memetic belief systems) have adopted social work as a form of self-perpetuation, the hosts of each form of these belief systems are extremely suspicious of the actions of the others. So, when charity is done by either the Muslims or the Christians or the Hindus, there is an added incentive to up the other's service provided to the poor, as a recruiting device. In India, there have been cases where Hindus have attacked Christian missionary organizations because they considered the charity services as a form of bribery in order to convert the "lower castes". Last year in the state of Orissa, thousands of Christians were attacked and much suffering resulted from such group-centric behavior.

The atheists are also attacked when they spread reason by first attending to the needs of the disenfranchised.

I think that both rationalism, in order to reduce group-centric behavior wrought by divisive ideologies such as religion and nationalism, as well as compassion and charity to reduce the suffering of our fellow human beings, need to be done simultaneously by the secular movement. We atheists need to recognize when there is something missing in our calls for reason. So, thanks for this excellent article.
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Soror quaerens lucem
12:22 AM on 04/17/2009
Great post. Just curious- why do you suppose that there is something missing in an atheist's call to reason?and what is that that is missing?
06:10 PM on 04/18/2009
What's missing? Um, evidence? All of the basic charges against faith lack same, since (among other reasons) they presume that religion has some special place in the promotion of bad behavior, when in fact hundreds of popular institutions (including love of country, sports, and money) also sponsor the worst in humans. Other inadequately supported (or flat-out baseless) claims include the idea that morality is innate in humans (tell that to the many millions murdered by tyrants in the last century), that faith equals some sort of virus that crowds out reason, that the Bible is an instruction manual rigidly obeyed by "true" believers (when, in fact, most evangelicals are fairly unfamiliar with the Bible), and so on.

For people who claim to own the patent on logic and reason, secularists/Brights/atheists/(choose your own label) seem unaware of the proof requirement when it comes to making a claim--i.e., that you need to have some if you expect to be taken seriously!

Hubris is the problem, really--"free" thinkers think they've discovered the wheel, intellectually speaking, parading the most elementary insights as if they were something astonishing and esoteric. And they're so caught up in their ritual of calling out the dummies (people of faith, like me) that they forget to mind their own minds. People forget that there's more to being logical and correct than pointing out how illogical and incorrect someone else is.

Hope that helps.
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dctackett
04:05 PM on 04/20/2009
it's missing the fact that most people do not opperate on reason... you can't reason with people who don't base their decisions on reason.