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Van Jones

Posted: February 17, 2009 04:25 PM

The Stimulus: A Down Payment on a Green Future

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Pretty soon, Kermit the Frog is going to need a new song to sing. I'm not saying it's easy being green. But it's getting easier.

As part of the $787 billion stimulus package that President Obama just signed, the federal government will be investing about $60 billion in clean energy, environmental projects, and scientific research.

Gene Karpinski, head of the League of Conservation Voters, calls it "by far the biggest investment in new green technologies that we've ever seen from the federal government."

This is a huge step forward for America. The twin crises of economic collapse and ecological devastation have proven that the old, pollution-based economy has failed both the people and the planet. The 'green' money in the stimulus package is a down payment on a clean, green economy that will serve both the people and the planet.

Check out some of the details:

  • $11 billion for the creation of a smart energy grid
  • $8.4 billion for public transit
  • $6.3 billion for state and local energy efficiency grants
  • $6 billion for the cleanup of contaminated Department of Defense sites
  • $4.5 billion to green federal buildings
  • $1.2 billion for the EPA's cleanup programs


Plus, the final version of the bill eliminates the loan guarantees the Senate had included for nuclear and so-called clean coal technology development -- false environmental 'solutions' that would have made matters worse, not better.

It's an especially exciting moment for me and my colleagues at Green For All, the Apollo Alliance, the Workforce Alliance and the Ella Baker Center for Human Rights. The stimulus includes $500 million for green jobs training -- funding we've been trying to get for two years. That means that the recovery package won't just stimulate the green economy. It will also make sure that the green economy includes pathways out of poverty for low-income people and people of color.

If only the billions that went to tax cuts had been used for even more green investments! Then Kermit would have had to completely rewrite that song.

 
 
 
Pretty soon, Kermit the Frog is going to need a new song to sing. I'm not saying it's easy being green. But it's getting easier. As part of the $787 billion stimulus package that President Obama ju...
Pretty soon, Kermit the Frog is going to need a new song to sing. I'm not saying it's easy being green. But it's getting easier. As part of the $787 billion stimulus package that President Obama ju...
 
 
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HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Mover
Father, Husband, Ret 1SG
01:36 PM on 02/19/2009
"The Stimulus: A Down Payment on a Green Future"

I have to say "no" to that idea.

It closer to a Down Payment on a Democrat Party future.

Our politicians have learned that they are very likely to secure their power and position by buying votes. The Stimulus Package's primary targets are big spending DNC supporters and masses of self-serving non-community minded voters who don't know any better.

Why is the 'post-partisan Obama going along? Because going along is what he does. It is all he does and he will never stop until all non-DNC supporters are so marginalized that they become a non-issue in American politics.
11:19 AM on 02/19/2009
Nice job Van,

I agree with nearly all of your points as I have throughout your rapid growth in the renewables community, but you are still missing on a very key issue. Throwing money is a good start, but we will watch that money burn away quickly with limited long term results unless our government starts implementing price points on things such as gas prices and carbon emissions. These effective means of generating activity will cost little, but are crucial to long term sustainability in regards to pushing renewable energy progress forward.

http://www.mygreenscene.com
http://www.greensceneems.com
03:58 AM on 02/19/2009
it's good, but not nearly enough. we should invest way more in rooftop solar where air conditioning is the peak load.
03:02 AM on 02/19/2009
What happened to the windmills and solar panels and magic fairy dust? I thought we were going to be energy independent in 10 years.
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TJCole
07:06 PM on 02/18/2009
So what is this a Lay Away Plan..?

Come on we can do better than this...not that I disagree with you Van, but if we stop building things in places where people keep blowing them up, and built things here we could be making a lot more than just a down payment..towards the future...
06:39 PM on 02/18/2009
And one more quick idea for you all to consider in a green bailout-- one that addresses climate change, air pollution, a renewal of the grid, and much more-- all in one solution. Solar Roadways. It isn't as crazy as you think-- I met the founder and there isn't much in the way of new technology here, we just need to will to commit to it at all levels of government. Check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3PeSm6_hTE

Best,
Mark
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MyTake
Release the Hydrogen Economy now!
11:25 PM on 02/18/2009
This works for me, but only if part of that generated electricity is used to run electrolysis units that produce hydrogen gas that run hydrogen fuel cell vehicles and in home/business hydrogen fuel cell electrical generators.

And what a perfect way to catch impaired, speeding and bad drivers!
06:36 PM on 02/18/2009
For all the wonderful green-ness of the bailout, we still have quite a ways to go. We need to fundamentally change the way we measure success so that economic success doesn't equal environmental devastation-- Wes Jackson mentions this issue in his own brief version of the inaugural address, particularly relevant to this discussion of a "green bailout." Take a look...

Wes as President
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDSn-bDyvdA

Peace,
Mark from YERT
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Gunga-Din
03:40 PM on 02/18/2009
]]A down payment for Al Gore and friends future
01:45 PM on 02/18/2009
When are all the liberals going to realize that "Green Technology" is just a way to rationalize the continued destruction of Mother Earth. You can't make a car that doesn't harm the Earth. Solar panels are made of metal, which requires extraction from a mountain. People don't want to give up their laptops, hybrids, etc. Until people realize that eliminating this stuff completely is the only way to be, the suffering that Western people will encounter will be exacerbated. We need to observe how indigenous people from all around the world lived for 10,000 years without this junk we have today. That's the only sustainable way. We can't invent our way out of this. Wake up people. Open your eyes!
11:53 AM on 02/18/2009
CO2 is the what plants want. We need to make more it to make sure things get greener.
11:12 AM on 02/18/2009
Ha! A down payment on a green future? Ha! That's all it is? Well at least you are being honest!
10:51 AM on 02/18/2009
This maybe a down payment of a new Green direction for the country, and that is so needed, but in order to begin fixing the economic tsunami coming at us is a Green manufacturing initiative and releasing the frozen credit via the nationalization of our zombie banks, that should be funneled into domestically useable and exportable Green products that will change the face of sustainable energy, agriculture, building and transportation.

http://eye-on-washington.blogspot.com
10:18 AM on 02/18/2009
re some of the posts here -- Clearly philosophical differences. Some people feel it is ok to spend $100 million in taxpayer money each year to slaughter wildlife through USDA's Wildlife Services and also that it is ok to spend billions in subsidies and tax breaks for giant polluting corporations, but hate any expenditure that helps people and the planet longterm.

There are many people from both the left and right who, if we are going to spend such huge sums of money on stimulus, would like to see a meaningful return on our investment, in the form of our nation's (and planet's) long-tern health and sustainability while providing good, rewarding, lasting jobs.

Economic stimulus for green jobs that produce measurable health for our society and planet is a very worthwhile investment. Which is the wiser choice: Treating surface symptoms (with the chance of the same old illness coming back again, even worse), or using the opportunity to dig into root causes and build core health?
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Mover
Father, Husband, Ret 1SG
08:59 AM on 02/18/2009
"The twin crises of economic collapse and ecological devastation have proven that the old, pollution-based economy has failed both the people and the planet."

Getting it exactly wrong has always been a mystery to me. I wonder it comes about and have no clear politically correct answer.

Since spending Hope dollars on so-called "green" projects, as listed above, has zero to do with stimulating the economy now, I wonder if green enthusiasts understand that economic crisis was caused by a meddling US Congress.

It was congress that refused to reign in Freddie and Fannie.

It was congress that created the "market to market" rule. (Requires assets to be valued at current market rates as opposed to how much loan is.)

It was congress that did no oversight on the regulations they created.

And it was congress that is paying the bad actors, those greedy CEOs, to continue to take home billions of dollars despite their atrocious performance.

Green is a fine research project and we need it, but we did not need to pile on the national debt to get it going. Besides, there are already thousands of companies researching green.
07:00 AM on 02/18/2009
If you want environmental you better go nuke. Unless you intend to build individual power for each home owner then the liberal plan is dead before it begins. Wind kills, more land than any nuke or coal plant ( I work in wind), kills more more birds than publisized (I have whole crews picking up birds daily) they are ugly and no liberal wants them sittting in their yard, you still need transmission and lots of it ,which eats more of our land, and finally the big deal always ignored by you leftists is the voltage and load stability needed for the grid to operate properly and keep components protected connected to it requires a stable base. A stable base can only be provided by large power plants, nuke, coal, hydro. In Texas we are limited by moving water...oops...there goes hydro, Quit pushing BS down our throats get it right or shut up and move on. Pickens is looking to get rich what do you want? You know even less so sit down and shut up and let big people figure out what is best for America not you or our liberal green politicians.
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RedneckDem
The top 1% stole my made in china bootstraps
10:36 AM on 02/18/2009
Bwahahahahhahaha! What a tool!

1. Wind kills- aside from occassional birds being killed, the fact that birds fly thru trees at full speed in windy conditions kinda shoots that argument in the foot. Plus, the larger wind farms have blades that turn much slower and methodical, further reducing bird deaths. Pollution kills too, and not only birds...

2. Most electrical grid infrastructue will be updated and new forms of electricity will course thru these existing areas.

3. The trem "stable base" is passe thinking and the reason it still exists is because there has been no electrical infrastructure improvements in quite awhile.

4. Nuclear and coal will always have a place in this, just an increasingly smaller one.

5. For some reason you are assuminmg that you are smarter than everyone and therein lies the problem. The grown ups are in charge now, not the big people...
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Mover
Father, Husband, Ret 1SG
12:54 PM on 02/19/2009
"2. Most electrical grid infrastructue will be updated and new forms of electricity will course thru these existing areas."

Updated by whom? Government using Hope dollars? The power company?

When was a "new form of electricity" discovered?

"3. The trem "stable base" is passe thinking"

Yeah, we don't want to have anything to do with "stable" anything. Stable markets, stable workforces, stable incomes, all very passé.

"4. Nuclear and coal will always have a place in this, just an increasingly smaller one."

Coal use may be reduced when an economical substitute is discovered, but anytime soon. I read that there are at least 150 coal fired electrical power plants in the works to be built. Nuclear power isn't used enough. If we used more nuclear power to make electricity (the traditional kind) we could use less coal.

"The grown ups are in charge now, not the big people..."

Funny, but I rarely hear grownups tingle with delight over a political candidates. More like little girls. And candidates that preach personal responsibility, then do everything in their power to kill personal responsibility.

Who's the tool?
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mero909
None of our comments will matter anyway
01:41 PM on 02/18/2009
If you remove Nuclear power...what else do you have? Solar power? LOL!

I'm glad I live in Texas where we supply half the country's power and our own through Nuclear power.