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Vanessa Carmichael

Vanessa Carmichael

Posted: April 19, 2010 05:45 PM

Virginia's Confederate Slap in the Face

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Anybody who has visited Virginia is not surprised by the recent announcement from Governor McDonnell of Confederate History Month. Not even his omission of slavery -- at least I'm not. Governor McDonnell is a Virginian and too many Virginians take excessive pride in their state's contribution to the American Civil War.

In 2007, I visited the capital of the Confederacy to attend my friend's wedding. A former actress, she and her fiancee had moved back to Virginia Beach from Los Angeles for cheaper real estate and a simpler life. I attended the wedding with a posse of LA city dwellers, transplants from Cambridge and Canada, and one who is another native Virginian.

I had never visited Virginia before. My mother spent some time there growing up on her uncle's farm and as a teenager in Ohio many of my Caucasian friends spent Spring Break at Virginia Beach. I had heard a tale or two about the place but nothing to indicate just how proud of the American Rebellion Virginians were. Driving from the airport for the wedding weekend, I spied a Confederate bumper sticker on what seemed like every other truck on the road.

As an African American who grew up in the Midwest and has spent most of her adulthood in America's great cities, it's hard to explain how unsettling it is to come face to face with the Rebel flag. The Confederate flag is iconic, it's used in art work by rock bands like Guns 'N Roses, Kid Rock and Poison. In the early 80's the Dukes of Hazard drove all over prime time television in a car with the Confederate flag painted on the side door. So, it's not like I've never seen the Dixie flag before and even to a certain extent become desensitized to it. But standing in the room of my friend's 10 year old nephew staring at the giant Confederate flag he was using as a wall hanging, I was jarred back into a reality that superceded fashion.

Perhaps it was because we were on a farm in Virginia where black people could have easily once been enslaved. Perhaps it was because I was the only person of color in the full house or perhaps it was the Southern twang that filled the air but in an instant my humanity rose up and I saw this boy's mother and my friend's family in a whole new, rather unflattering, light.

I tried to talk with my friend about it when we were back in Los Angeles and all I ever heard was that the Rebel Flag did not mean to her family what it meant in history and my understanding based upon that history. It wasn't a symbol of Southern tyranny and treason to her family. It was a symbol of Southern pride. Not surprisingly, Pat Buchanan uses the same justification on MSNBC. The message of which to black people is clear -- quite simply, get over it.

There is a lot of injustice in this country that black people are expected to get over. We were once expected to get over rape, violence and dehumanization by our wealthy white slave owners and their white employees. We are now expected to accept racial inequality that pervades over the justice system and employment opportunity. We are also expected to accept a society where everybody thinks they are better and better off than us no matter what dystopia they or their grandparents immigrated from. And now we are expected to accept the glorification of the Confederate's fight for the preservation of slavery, and pretend that the end to black human bondage wasn't the essential piece of legislation that led the South to secede.

It would seem no other people in America are expected to go through life with such amnesia like black people. I mean, Hitler fixed the roads and industrialized Germany, which put many Germans back to work. Yet you'd be hard-pressed to find the Nazi flag as a bumper sticker in Berlin, let alone a ubiquitous symbol of that country's pride. And if I were Jewish and that flag hanging on my friend's nephew's wall was the Nazi flag, I doubt I would have been invited into the house, let alone the boy's room, because nobody pretends that the swastika stands for anything other than what it stands for -- white supremacy and the genocide of 11 Million human beings. Who cares that it was initially the flag of a legitimate political party or that it is taken from the sanskrit symbol for good fortune?

Driving back to the hotel that day after the polite conversation and Yankee jokes, I felt sorry for the black folks in Virginia. What a slap in the face to live amongst people whose pride is worth more than your humanity, who day after day fly a flag in celebration of a history that not only excludes you but sought to destroy you. How it must break black folks' hearts to live in a State which once had the highest population of African Americans and has so many family trees, which shaken hard enough will send a black ancestor falling out, yet continues to deny its collective history. That day, I really felt sorry for black people in Virginia and the only person who seemed to take notice and feel sympathy for me was, of course, my friend from Cambridge.

 

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04:31 PM on 05/17/2010
If it weren't for all the people who would be hurt and unable to escape these bastions of confederate heritage, I'd say let them secede and see how well they do without the rest of us. Mississippi in particular, which gets way more money in federal aid than it pays in federal taxes. I was born and raised in Mississippi, and I'm white, and I could not wait to get out. Now that my parents are dead, I don't ever have to go back. I used to feel concern and wish I could do something about it. Now I have nothing but contempt for idiots who continue to vote and against their own interests because of the white segregation academy establishment propaganda that keeps those who aren't of a certain social or faux-cultural caste in their place.
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Enroh Mot
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02:39 AM on 05/16/2010
I live in Mississippi,lets put aside for a moment that slavery was horrendous for black people, that's something that any intelligent person should understand, but what bothers me as a white person is that so many white Southerners don't understand is that the institution of slavery was bad for the majority of white people, the reason that so many whites lived in poverty is that they couldn't compete with slave labor, so when they went off and died in their tens of thousands under the Confederate flag they died for something that was not in their best interest.
05:57 AM on 05/15/2010
As an African American who grew up in the South, I can tell you this - ignore it. The majority of ignorant Southerners who bitterly cling to the confederate flag do so for one reason ... because it bothers black people. They are no different from that attention seeking pundit who will do or say anything outrageous just to get TV ratings and free publicity. They are the class clown desperately seeking to disrupt the class and get a few laughs. When others in society give this act of defiance any of our energy we play into their narrative.

It is a flag. It is a piece of cloth. Its meaning was dissolved long ago. Its value is determined by those who oppose it. If you take that away, the folks behind it have no other justification to use it.
02:59 AM on 05/15/2010
Although, I am a proud Southerner, I feel that anyone who brandishes the "Rebel Flag" does so as an ignorant act of defiance rather than an innocent homage to "heritage". The adoption of the flag by hate groups decades after the cessation of hostilities between North and South has given the flag a dubious reputation over the years. It is no wonder that the sight of that flag results in disgust from African-Americans. But, historical ignorance is rampant within this debate. For example, about ten years ago, my home state of Georgia, changed its flag in order to remove the Rebel flag from the state flag. The Rebel flag had been added in 1959 by the Georgia legislature in definace of the civil rights movement. Because of the devious nature of its appearance on the state flag, I agreed that it should have been removed. But, the revised, and current, state flag of Georgia is an exact replica of the "Stars and Bars", the national flag of the Confederacy from 1861 to 1864. Ironically, there was no outrage about that. It shows that all sides are ignorant of history.
I went to college in Virginia about 20 miles from Appomattox Court House and am sad to see a state that I love vilified as it has been recently. I completely understand your sentiment and am disappointed that there are people out there who still use the Rebel Flag as a symbol of defiance.
Intelligentia
Anti-Racist
02:12 AM on 05/15/2010
Thank you for this article! We also need to address all the federal buildings named after racists who became famous and politically powerful because of their racism and avid resistance to equlity of all races.
11:33 PM on 05/14/2010
USPS sells a roll of state flag stamps. Unbeknownst to me they included an Alabama flag, which itself includes the confederate flag. I wrote a complaint to the Postmaster General. This flag offends me. It will offend others in the local non-profit organization I head. Am I out the $2.20 or will you make good on it? Better yet, will you retire this stamp? No answer yet.
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calhar
03:19 PM on 05/15/2010
Golly Tanya you sure must be thin skinned.
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Uncle Bill
ex-lawyer and teacher
11:13 PM on 05/14/2010
I wonder how many people who defend the Stars and Bars as a matter of cultural pride and historic significance support Mexican Americans displaying the Mexican National Flag as representing their history and heritage in territory conquered or purchased by the Federal government? Is that seen as romantic loyalty to The Lost Cause? How many of us studied "The War of American Aggression" in US history classes instead of "The Mexican War?"
My Grandmother's baptismal certificate is printed in German and her church conducted services in German until WWI. Not only did they not fly the German flag, they didn't speak the language in public thereafter nor teach their children the language after US entry into the war. Sometimes symbols represent a choice of loyalties, not just history or cultural origins. People have a free speech right to fly the Stars and Bars, and I have freedom of thought to see it as representing where their loyalties lie.
03:07 AM on 05/15/2010
The Stars and Bars and the "Rebel Flag" are two different flags. If I flew the Stars and Bars outside my house, I doubt anyone would bat an eyelash because they wouldn't know what it was.
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Uncle Bill
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04:15 PM on 05/15/2010
You are correct if we are precise, but people often confuse the battle flag/second national flag of the confederacy with the first national flag which as you indicate is correctly termed the 'stars and bars.'

So, strike 'stars and bars' and insert "Confederate Battle Flag" above. Care to offer your opinion on the first question in the first paragraph? The rest I think we can dismiss as rhetorical questions.
09:16 AM on 05/01/2010
The sin of slavery is a true American sin, no doubt. The American Slave trade, the vast majority out of Northern states like New York, Massachusetts, and Rhode Island, resulted in the deaths of at least hundreds of thousands in the middle passage. Profits and labor from American slavery laid the cornerstones of our great cities like Boston and New York. American history has been rewritten in the past 150 years to disown this dark side of our history.

New England and the Midwest continue to be the most segregated regions of the country, lagging far behind the South in integration. And current demographic trends show the nation is now in a “New Great Migration”, where blacks are moving out of the Northeast and Midwest and to the South. Racial tolerance in the South surpasses that found in those regions of the country, despite the conclusions you drew on your brief trip observing bumper stickers.

Personally I like the idea of a Confederate History Month, it forces dialogue and debate, and encourages education and enlightenment. You editorial is an example of this. You say you “feel sorry for the blacks in Virginia”, but did you ask if they feel sorry for themselves? Likewise I could say I feel sorry for the minorities in California by Prop 8, or the recent acts of racism on California college campuses. But I try to develop a deeper understanding of the region before I jump to criticize. I suggest you do the same.
11:40 PM on 04/20/2010
Good for you Vanessa. Loved it!
06:05 PM on 04/20/2010
Just wondering where you got your info. Are you saying that over 12-18 MILLION blacks were killed as a result of the slave trade in the Southern states? ("The American slave trade claimed the lives of anywhere between 2 to 3 times as many people as did Hitler's Final Solution. ") I base this on the estimated number of Jews killed by Hiltler as 6 milllion. According to the US census in 1850 there were 4,441,830 blacks in the nation with 3,953,731 being identfied as slaves (89%). By the 1870 census (five years after the war of Northern Agression ended) there were 4,880,009 counted in the US with none being identified as slaves, an increase of 438,179 in total population. It seems to me that it would be counter productive to just kill your labor force as Southerners have been accused of doing. Also, after Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation in 1863, many blacks joined the Union Army and met their untimely demise in that service, and fighting Native American Indians after the war.
One last tidbit for you. According to an essay published by Sylvea Hollis, of the Birmingham Civil Rights Institute, "The first African Americans came to the Otsego Lake region of upstate New York while serving as soldiers in the French and Indian War. A few decades later William Cooper, the founder of Cooperstown, brought slaves to work in his new village." Seems like the South was not the only player in the game.
07:40 PM on 04/20/2010
Wow, those are some interesting "tidbits" of information, that's for sure. What's worse, being enslaved your whole life, watching your children be enslaved their whole lives, being wrenched away from your homeland to be enslaved, having your wife, husband or children be sold away from you for the rest of your life - or dying a slow painful death? A difficult series of questions to answer I think. Why not stay on topic people?? Those that made it across the ocean lived horrible lives consisting of endless forced labor, not to demean whatever efforts they may have made for spiritual sustenance amongst themselves.

Why would you bother to try to justify, nitpick, etc. the role of the South in the slave trade in relation to this article? The role of a slave in the South (or in the North, or in London etc.) was no fun. Period. The Confederate flag is emblematic of the acceptance of this shamefulness in our nations history. Period. Why not leave the Confederate flag and such overt racism, as embarrassingly nurtured in the comment above, behind?
02:19 PM on 04/21/2010
To Ms. Carmicheal, I thank you for your response. I was not addressing you directly but replying to what I believe was another comment by a reader.
To Mr. Godbout, to whom I am replying now. Your points about " What's worse, being enslaved your whole life, watching your children be enslaved their whole lives, being wrenched away from your homeland to be enslaved, having your wife, husband or children be sold away from you for the rest of your life - or dying a slow painful death? A difficult series of questions to answer I think.", were well said and well reasoned, however your remark, " Why not stay on topic people??", is somewhat off the mark. I was exactly on topic. The article Ms. Carmichael wrote is something I took umbrage with, and I merely wanted clarification from the reader who made what I interpreted to be remarks supporting her position (kellygreen). As to your final remark, "Why not leave the Confederate flag and such overt racism, as embarrassingly nurtured in the comment above, behind?
I would suggest, Sir, that the current American flag would have to be treated equally if you were firm in your objections. After all, that flag and it's variations have flown over a country that has decimated the Native American population, and fostered racism and slavery in both the North and South for almost it's entire history.
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lemmonmc
05:40 PM on 04/22/2010
Keith Godbout:

YOUR ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!
Thankyou
02:09 PM on 04/20/2010
Why is the author not approving opinions she doesn't like?
01:45 PM on 04/20/2010
Being a white person, I will of course bring this conversation around to whiteness (while trying to be my best, anti-racist self by acknowledging the pain and sadness that Vanessa so eloquently expresses). The New Yorker recently published a story on how whiteness is getting better at defining itself, albeit in a way that I find distasteful and not reflective of my own whiteness. But it looks like the Confederate flag has solidified itself in the minds of many whites as an acceptable symbol for their own struggle. I just wish whites could find a way to define ourselves that didn't involve tapping into a painful, racist history. But maybe I have to get used to the fact that that's what whiteness is.
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lemmonmc
05:43 PM on 04/22/2010
mlekat

I'm a proud supporter of anti-racist white Americans (Tim Wise)
As an African American I thankyou and keep up the good work, you guys are the key to the future
Intelligentia
Anti-Racist
02:09 AM on 05/15/2010
Tim Wise is the best. I love his Affirmative Action article!
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calhar
03:17 PM on 05/15/2010
And boy are you creating a mess for yourselves.You will end up like Haiti.Good luck in your venture.You will need it.
10:26 AM on 04/20/2010
I have been astounded to see the U.S. flag and the Confederate battle flag (that's the one we most commonly see displayed) flying together on a flagpole. The individual making that display has no clue as to the contradiction that depicts.

It is also astounding that while African Americans are being asked to "get over it," the people who fly the Confederate battle flag have not themselves "gotten over it." After all, they lost.
kellygreen
"Ideology is the Science of Idiots" John Adams
12:28 PM on 04/20/2010
Exactly.

It is pretty hypocritical to insist that someone else "get over" their wounds and resentments...when the person demanding it clearly hasn't done the same.
09:55 AM on 04/20/2010
This place called Virginia Beach where the author observed all those rebel flags, is there some connection between it, Regent University and aspiring Republican presidential candidate Governor Bob McDonald?
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09:45 AM on 04/20/2010
Trying to understand. Is the name "I am opinionated or opinionhated"?