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Should Schools Teach Teens How To Be Good Spouses?

Posted: 02/15/2012 11:53 am

If we take classes to learn the skills we need to survive in the world at large, as well as the working world, should we take classes to learn how to be a good spouse, too?

About a week ago, Utah Rep. Dixon Pitcher introduced a bill that would require would-be spouses to wait at least three days after obtaining a license before getting married, unless they took premarital training first. Wyoming introduced a similar bill; couples that didn't attend three hours of marriage counseling would have to wait a year before getting a marriage license. Other states have tried to pass legislation that would require counseling before couples could divorce.

Clearly there's a movement to get people -- with the help of teachers and counselors -- to think before marrying or divorcing. It sounds like a good idea, but do marriage prep courses work?

Yes and no, according to a 2010 Brigham Young University study, which examined about 50 such classes around the country. Yes, the classes significantly increased couples' communication skills. No, the classes didn't improve relationship quality or satisfaction.

As one researcher noted, "Engaged couples are so in love that they can't be more satisfied. Their heads are bumping against the ceiling."

Maybe trying to talk sense into young lovers who are about to walk down the aisle is too late. Perhaps we should start talking about what makes for a healthy marriage in high school; at least that's what the majority of responders in an informal survey Susan Pease Gadoua and I offered as part of our research for our book, "The New I Do," indicated.

Is there a place for marital education amid algebra, environmental ed and world history classes?

Some high schools already offer that. In 1998, Florida became the first state to require a class on relationships and marriage for high school students, part of a larger plan to encourage marriage skills by discounting marriage licenses for couples that take a premarital skills course. The mandate hasn't had much impact because "loopholes in the law make it easy to avoid changing the education curriculum," according to the conservative Heritage Foundation.

Loopholes or not, many see a need for such high school classes. In 2000, long-time teacher Marlene Pearson was asked by the National Marriage Project to review the effectiveness of several marriage and relationship programs used in schools. As she says in her study, "Can Kids Get Smart About Marriage," youths are:

Confused and misguided about the differences between sex and love, living together and marriage, manhood and fatherhood. They get little help or accurate information from their elders. The Baby Boom generation, veterans of the sexual and divorce revolution, has little to say, and certainly not much good to say, about marriage. This leaves young people like my students with few clues as to how they achieve a goal they almost universally seek. They have to try to figure it out by themselves. But the sad truth is that it is hard to figure out marriage on your own. Most young adults in most societies across the world are able to depend on the teachings and traditions of the larger community in life matters as consequential as finding a lifelong mate and getting married. But very little guidance is available in our society today, and what guidance there is comes from Hollywood and Madison Avenue. As a result, young adults are floundering and often failing in their personal and family lives.

But are high schools -- most of which have had to lay off teachers and staff because of budget cutbacks and are struggling to boost academic scores to keep up with new legislation -- the best place to teach kids about marriage? As a spokesman for the Florida Education Association noted, "Were schools designed to do this much socialization and values clarification? Many teachers would argue it would be great if they could focus more on academic subjects and worry less about these."

At one point, eight other states besides Florida addressed statewide school-based marriage education. Initiatives failed in Arizona, Utah and New Mexico. South Carolina dropped a program after using it for five years.

South Dakota uses the Connections curriculum, which focuses on marriage and relationship communications skills; a 2004 study of the program found marginal success -- some students felt somewhat more negatively about divorce and somewhat more positively toward premarital counseling. But because it was an elective class, the students who most needed to learn marital skills didn't benefit because they didn't sign up for the class.

Are teenagers good subjects for learning marital skills anyway? Maybe, especially if you look at them in love. Adolescents "are often more focused on how they feel about the relationship and what they are getting out of it rather than a mutual process that includes how the other person feels about the relationship," according to Brenda McDaniel, assistant professor of psychology at Kansas State University, who has been studying how 18- to 20-year-old dating couples handle conflict.

But the bigger question is, what marital skills do we teach and what kind of marriage are we talking about? "Traditional" marriage, as the Heritage Foundation stresses? What do we teach teens who are gay or lesbian, or kids who are being raised by choice mothers or have two fathers or two mothers? What message will we send teens if schools promote a husband-wife marriage as the only healthy -- or "real" -- relationship?

Should we be teaching teens how to be a good spouse? And, if so, what do we teach and who should do it?

 
 
 

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07:50 AM on 03/10/2012
On marriage education generally, you cite one study that found mixed results, but there have been many studies over the past 15 years that found significant, lasting improvements in marriage quality. - For more info see smartmarriages.com. And the classes don't teach conservative beliefs about marriage, they teach skills and behaviors that work in any kind of marriage or committed relationship. Yes, religious and ethnic groups of all kinds can adapt the classes to work better with their own community, but the core of the classes is evidence-based skills training.
12:47 PM on 02/21/2012
Wow, and to think that meanwhile in China, students are busy learning math!
12:19 PM on 02/21/2012
Schools should definitely teach students the pros and cons of marriage as well. Especially for boys.
They need to know how the laws treat men vs women when it comes to divorce, child custody, child support, alimony, claims of domestic violence and child abuse. Once boys are aware of the facts, if they choose to marry, they won't be blind sighted if things go south in their marriage.
10:26 AM on 02/21/2012
Programs like this won't work because most of the people teaching them have a 75% chance of being divorced (or on their second or third marriage). Not to mention the fact that the students taking them are likely being raised from a divorced parent.

Marriage lessons were traditionally learned at home from the best example...PARENTS. This has become obsolete in today's society. There are too many outside forces working against these types of 11th hour programs.

Parents today spend more time giving children advice on how to survive once you've been through a divorce. This creates a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Feminism promotes single parenting and living life without men (despite the fact that studies show single parenting damages kids). In addition young men watch each day as divorced men lose their possessions and their rights to see their children. While women see this as some type of victory over men; high-fiving each other every time they hear about a celebrity wife winning money from a divorce. Women are even writing books on how to beat the prenup system, which is enough to make most men's skin crawl (it's a wonder more women file for divorce). Our society promotes legalized prostitution.

The only way to fix marriage is to even out the balance of power. You can never make these things work if only one person has everything to lose. Prenups should be MANDATORY and lawyers should be utilized in the beginning versus the end. No more consolation prizes.
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08:28 AM on 02/21/2012
The most important thing you could teach kids about marriage is that, no matter how much you are in love, no matter how much you think this person is the most amazing and perfect person and all you want is to spend the rest of your life with them, there will come a day when you find yourself questioning why you married them. You will wonder if you made a mistake, and wish your marriage was happier/easier/more fun/less hassle--and that you had more money/sex/whatever. How you handle that feeling, what you choose to do next, determines whether you will stay married and learn and grow together or end up one of the large number of people who divorce. Frankly, I'm not sure you can teach this in school. But unfortunately, a lot of kids aren't getting the example at home, and our culture doesn't really promote a realistic idea.
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hman570
06:12 AM on 02/21/2012
Our kids know to much about marriage now what more do we want to teach them. It is not up to the schools to teach something like that. Kids marry or don't marry and have kids at an early age now. Being a good spouse can not be taugh and today there is no respect so what's the differance. Teaching kids respect and not this crap You Disrespected Me, as that is stupid. Respect is earn not just given because you want it. Teach that as that is more improtant.
10:28 AM on 02/21/2012
I believe the point of this article is that kids know NOTHING about marriage. And there is no one to teach them because all the parents are divorced themselves.
10:55 AM on 02/21/2012
No one can "teach marriage because no two brans are exactly the same thus every marriage is unique.
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hman570
08:29 PM on 02/21/2012
I dissagree sir, as there is no book that can be written about marriage. Marriage is a specil bond between two people that should last a life time, as we know it surely does not in America today. Kids know more about marriage then you may think. It is a joke to them as the only thing they are interested in is the sex. Responsiablity is something that is forgotten and that is why most marriages fail. You can't teach something that comes from the heart I don't care what the so called experts say or write about it.
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judi9694
06:04 AM on 02/21/2012
This is not the job of educators or taxpayers dollars. Kids need to focus on going to college or learning a trade and getting a job. They need to be a decent human being first. That is a job for parents.
08:31 AM on 02/21/2012
usually the people who don't understand this are the same people who think that marriage is - or should be - the most important thing in the world. these people are typically the ones who feel that you have to be married in order to be a success and that anyone who is not married is a threat to the beloved "family unit."

people, the "family unit" isn't going anywhere. single people have families too, as well as unmarried people who live together and raise children together, as well as (dun dun dun) gay people. we can all build a family with those we love, if we work hard enough at it. marriage is not the magical answer to all things good and holy. you have to work together and be able to make private decisions together to make any serious relationship work, and there is no class or textbook that can teach someone how to do that. they have to learn it for themselves through experience and emotional growth and be able to turn to family and loved ones for advice when needed, not an overwhelmed high school teacher who frankly may not even know what to say.
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09:44 PM on 02/21/2012
Absolutely. The model is dated. Interesting article shows a relationship between the more educated who marry compared with the less educated who don't, which presents one argument that would favor teaching academic classes so people get jobs. They are more likely to marry--if that is the goal, not the one taking relationship classes--it's a guess. They probably will not further their education and be less likely to marry. That is just one interpretation of the data. There are a lot of speculations or hypothesis one could generate from the data presented. Anyway, I think marriage is okay for some, but not necessary or even pleasant. I agree with the comment above, that marriage is best for kids. http://www.prb.org/Articles/2010/usmarriagedecline.aspx
04:51 AM on 02/21/2012
Into our cultural morass comes Our Saviour, Super State, with more power points and quick fixes, and the 3 hour course that makes up for decades of moral decay.

A recent survey found America's most sucessful 30% came from generations of traditional, "Ozzie and Harriet" type homes.

we're mass producng losers who need to feel bad about themselves: it's the last hope for change.

The Fall of Rome came with moral decay, fiscal irresponsiblility, mercenary armies: not like we haven't been through this before, and there probaly isn't much to be done about it.

Nice try, though.
11:24 AM on 02/21/2012
I find that hard to believe. I wonder what careers that 30% in this survey focused on and what criteria they measured success. I know that people in science and technology rarely have a traditional "Ozzie and Harriet" homes. Many have serial marriages, most have wives who also have high paying technical and/or scientific carreers rather than stay home moms. I personally know several couples (relatives) who have fled the United States because their research was banned in this country. One couple is gay and the other- both have been married multiple times with children from all their previous marriages. As for, "The Fall of Rome", Christians often mention this complete hoax which has no bases in reality. Constantine legalized Christianity throughout the Empire and became a Christian on his deathbed, wounded while fighting the Turks. He also split the Empire into East and West and installed his two sons as dual Emperors. This sparked off a huge civil war. The Germanic tribes took advantage of this and conquered Rome AD 476 by the Visigoth Odoacer and his men in the year AD 476.

But what is generally referred to as 'the Fall of Rome' doesn't include the eastern empire. This, with its centre in Constantinople, managed to cling on for almost another thousand years until it was eventually conquered by the Turks under their leader Mohammed II in the year AD 1453.
08:20 PM on 02/21/2012
Sounds like a lot of the people you're talking about were't very successful: science isn't all of it.

As for Rome, when empires fall, the land and people don't go away (well, most of them don't) : just the empire.
11:50 AM on 02/21/2012
It's funny that you mentioned the "traditional marriage" homes being happier. Especially in a day and age where the "modern woman" is told that remaining single will bring happiness. Yet ironically enough the unhappiness in women is at an all time high and mental issues with women are increasing each year.

Most women today don't know how to be happy. From the moment you meet them you can tell they are searching for some type of happiness they can't find from within. They've cut themselves off from their radiant feminine core in order to become men. I'm glad they can get their own source of income, but trying to be the "second man" in a RELATIONSHIP will NEVER work. There can only be one man and one woman in a relationship PERIOD. If you ask a woman to pass the salt from across the table these days it takes about five minutes as she processes if she's being submissive for doing so. So she gets dumped and goes back to her feminist handbook which tells her that she was just too "strong" a woman for him.

Go around a foreign woman for a day and the results would surprise you. Watch how the men light up around her feminine energy. Watch how the American woman question what magical powers she has. Then go to a mall one day and sit and look at the faces of the "modern woman", they all look so miserable and discontent.
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03:23 PM on 02/21/2012
Way to go, blaming feminism for everything. What you want is a submissive woman who will be willing to go back to the 1950s. Get over it.
08:28 PM on 02/21/2012
I know what you are talking about.

Instead of feminism, people ought ot take up ball room dancing.

I've worked for women and had them work for me. We put on our little grey faces and get the job done, like everybody else.

But the Tango! Vive la difference.
04:10 AM on 02/21/2012
WOW this is really something. Irony at it's best. Here we have our grown, adult, educated, mature Democrat and Republicans politicians who cannot agree with each other on ANYTHING ___now telling HS teachers that the teachers have to teach children how to play nice once they get married and try to agree more with their spouse. So far the politicians say the teachers : 1) must get the grades up. 2) must lower the drop out rate 3) teach children to be good citizens 4) Teach children about how to stay married and avoid divorce.
Oh and just one more thing___By the way_____ we are cutting your salaries and making you pay more now towards health insurance coverage and making you pay more now for pension coverage and requiring you to work 10 more years until you can qualify for a retirement pension___Now get out there and do good job..
03:49 AM on 02/21/2012
I'll always say that good teaching begins at home. But any sort of moderated outside help, especially in these fast paced tech-heavy days would be welcome in my book.

Schools do start needing to become more relevent instead of hanging onto the 100 year old model of tests>all.
03:43 AM on 02/21/2012
might as well teach them about marrage... they are having babys while they are kids.
03:40 AM on 02/21/2012
Sounds as though everyone is trying to take the place of PARENTS to me. The downfall of America will start with the loss of the family unit and the gears are already turning.
02:55 AM on 02/21/2012
Let me guess, the author would rather the schools teach sex positions?
04:15 AM on 02/21/2012
i must have missed the part where the article said that a) schools teach sex POSITIONS and b) whether sex ed or marriage ed, it has to be one or the other.
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02:30 AM on 02/21/2012
It just seems to me that if we had a required class starting at an early age 1st grade to grade 6 in communication, manners, respect, tolerance and empathy - that would go along way in teaching our kids on how to be better people...and it would carry over into every area of their lives...home, school, work, the world in general.
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Fay Butler
02:28 AM on 02/21/2012
Some churches provide pre-marital training and I think that is a good idea. Many young people approach marriage as though it was some romance movie without really understanding what love and marriage really means.

How does that saying go? I'm too old to know everything.
05:09 AM on 02/21/2012
Yes, I am way too old know everything!

The older I get, the worse it gets!

Churches and Families is where this sort of thing belongs, not schools.

The politics in schools is already bad enough.

Besides, this sort of thing is learned more by association, interaction, life.

The public education version will be some sterile effort guaranteed to discredit whatever it is trying to say.
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Fay Butler
06:47 AM on 02/21/2012
Someone once asked me how I got my kids to leave notes saying where they were going. I hadn't thought about it much but realized I left them notes saying where I was going - that's how they learned it. I think if a person decides early on that they want a happy, life-long mariage then they will choose someone who has the same values and wants the same thing. Otherwise - trouble in paradise. My point is: you can teach anything you want. If the students do not wish to apply it then it is of no use. Teach by example, slowly bend the twig over many years and you'll get just the shape tree you hoped for. Schools can only do so much. Home is what counts. Usually.