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Why Cohabiting Is a Bad Idea For Some

Posted: 09/23/11 04:35 AM ET

I am about to say something that many might consider blasphemous -- I don't think couples should live together.

Now, before you cast me as some pro-marriage, uber-conservative who has been reading one too many National Marriage Project (NMP) studies, be assured I am not. At the risk of sounding somewhat Orwellian, let me clarify: Living together is OK for some couples and not for others.

Don't want to be parents? If there are no kids to deal with, planned or still at home, please -- move in and out with whomever you want as often as you want.

It's also OK for same-sex couples; until other states wise up and follow the lead of Vermont and Massachusetts and allow same-sex marriages, we haven't given gays and lesbians much of a choice, have we?

It works for people like me, too. As a divorced middle-aged woman who is about to be an empty-nester, shacking up -- with someone respected and accepted as part of the family -- works.

Finally, cohabiting is fine if you've put a ring on it -- an engagement ring, that is -- or have a wedding date in mind or have been talking marriage (to each other, obviously). Or, if you don't "need a piece of paper to prove your love," you at least know that you're committed to each other.

But if you are a young adult who thinks you might want to have kids one day and maybe even get married but you aren't sure that your current sweetie's The One, please don't move in with him or her.

I can hear the grumbling; "How will I know if we're compatible or not if we don't live together?" Easy -- you know because you've spent enough time together as a couple. If you really don't know if you can live with his smelly socks in the hallway or her panties hanging in the bathroom, then you either haven't known each other long enough or you haven't been paying attention. In either case, you're just not ready to marry. Please, date some more.

Couples rarely split up over socks and underwear; they split because of affairs, alcohol, addictions and abuse. They split because their expectations of marriage differ. And they split because they never should have been together in the first place -- probably because they moved in together to see if they could live with the socks and panties while they were ignoring other, much bigger issues.

So what's so wrong with living with your boyfriend or girlfriend? Let's forget the studies pointing out the booze (cohabitors drink more), weight (they're heavier) and happiness (they're not quite as happy as married couples but they aren't more miserable, either), because those aren't the issues. Nor are the results of the latest NMP study, "Why Marriage Matters," which predicts doom and gloom for the children of cohabiting couples. The NMP has an agenda; it wants to promote marriage. Still, even a recent and presumably agenda-less Pew Study finds similar results, at least when it comes to cohabiting couples' economic well-being; they're poorer, and that puts stress on a relationship. A lot of stress.

As a society, we need to pay attention because there are 12 times as many cohabiting couples today as there were in the 1970s.

The real problem with cohabiting is that many couples who enter into it don't give it a lot of thought; it's one of those "just kind of happened" things. You like him, he likes you and a few months later you're jamming your stuff into his closets. And those are the couples who, if they end up "sliding into marriage," as research professor and co-director of the Center for Marital and Family Studies at the University of Denver Scott Stanley would call it, are more likely to divorce at some point.

Commitment is a decision. And if cohabitation is being offered as a replacement to marriage -- as the Alternatives to Marriage Project and many sociologists and family psychologists see it -- then a little more thought about it needs to happen, especially if you know you want to have kids one day.

For Linda Lea Viken, head of the American Academy of Matrimonial Lawyers, that would mean a cohabitation agreement. Even if a couple doesn't end up signing one, at least they've been thinking about things like property, spending, saving and -- this is a big one -- expectations. If you can have unrealistic expectations in a marriage, you can have them living together, too.

Sure, it may seem crazy to see an attorney at the start of a loving relationship, but as anyone who's been divorced knows love has nothing to do with a breakup; it's all about who gets what and how much. And, since many couples say they moved in together for economic reasons, money is obviously a huge part of cohabitation. It's best to be honest about that from the start.

Married or not, a breakup is rarely pretty, and 40 percent of cohabiting hetero couples split within five years. Viken and the AAML are seeing an increase in ugly court battles between cohabiting couples; the law just doesn't protect them the way a marriage license does. Women tend to suffer more economically after a cohabiting split. And if you have a kid together, well, all you have to do is follow the legal tussles between Halle Barry and baby daddy Gabriel Aubry to know that you don't have to be married to have the same messy, expensive custody drama when you break up.

Getting back to those expectations, Viken and others point out that when couples decide to marry, their goals are often the same -- buy a house, start a family, etc. That isn't always the case for people moving in together, but those who do have a better chance of making it. Even if a couple hasn't talked about commitment, many women assume a marriage proposal will come after a certain amount of time of living together. Men, however, hold the power in deciding whether to marry or not. And while many do propose, there aren't a lot of compelling reasons if they're already cohabiting; since cohabitation is typically more gender egalitarian than marriage, men don't have to be the breadwinner -- more cohabiting women have jobs than their partners -- and he still has someone to clean the house and his clothes (yes, cohabiting women tend to do more of that than the guys). It seems like a pretty sweet deal -- for a guy.

Of course, none of this matters if we're talking about two child-free adults who live together and then split. It's just a heck of a lot worse if there are kids involved -- his kids, her kids, their kids. According to the ATMP, 40 percent of the first babies of single mothers are actually born to cohabiting couples. And some 42 percent of kids will have lived in a cohabiting household before they turn 12 years old.

Still, no one's pushing for marriage (well, except the NMP), but it you want to live with someone happily and for the long haul you really do need to be committed, especially if you have or want kids. "To me, the biggest issue is commitment not marriage," says psychologist Joshua Coleman, co-chair of the Council on Contemporary Families. "A lot of people are opting not to marry, but I wonder what is the context in which you have a child."

For our most famously cohabiting couple, Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt, the context seems clear. As Jolie said when asked if she and Pitt will grow old together, "Of course; we wouldn't have six children if we weren't absolutely sure of that."

No one can ever definitively know if a relationship will last, whether married or not. But making a conscious decision to start off that way sure helps.

 
 
 

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I am about to say something that many might consider blasphemous -- I don't think couples should live together. Now, before you cast me as some pro-marriage, uber-conservative who has been reading on...
I am about to say something that many might consider blasphemous -- I don't think couples should live together. Now, before you cast me as some pro-marriage, uber-conservative who has been reading on...
 
 
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07:20 AM on 09/26/2011
more cohabiting women have jobs than their partners -- and he still has someone to clean the house and his clothes (yes, cohabiting women tend to do more of that than the guys)

All I can say to that is, "more fool her."
isadora
Leftie, educator, labor activist, Unitarian Univer
09:29 AM on 09/26/2011
Always blame the woman for "letting him," as it was in the "good old days" which I remember with great clarity-and great pain.
10:32 AM on 09/26/2011
I have no time for members of my own sex who do not do their fair share.

However, I also sometime despair of the attitudes of 'some' women. I heard an interview with 3 medical professionals (a GP, surgeon and lecturer) in which the surgeon not only took her mobile into the operating theatre in case the child minder needed her, but actually said that she would not let her husband take any of the child-care responsibility because (and I quote) "he has a demanding job".
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realitytrumpsbull
Two 'alves of coconut!
12:30 AM on 09/26/2011
I don't know, I've never been married, but I would say that another marriage-killer, is money. If one or the other partner suddenly loses their ability to generate the old monthly paycheck, that's going to put a damper on the romance in the marriage, such as might be left after several years of cohabitation, after the magic's gone and you've shared athletes' foot or whatever.  But, money or no, either you love each other, and have become inseparable, or you you don't, and if you don't, eventually I think the relationship will end. And hey, if you love your spouse, pick up your laundry, and don't expect them to do it for you. The old joke was that the bride wore white so the dishwasher would match the refrigerator, but in the modern age, 'hubby' had better be kitchen-certified, too. And all that that entails.
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AgathaX
Pro-science; anti-using-the-world-as-one-big-lab.
07:49 AM on 09/25/2011
When living together is a compromise between one person who is ready for a commitment and one who is not--as it often is-- it is destined to fail. Indeed many people move in together at the precise moment when they should be breaking up--i.e. at the moment that it is clear that they are both seeking different things--and in so doing, make breaking up all the harder both emotionally and logistically.

The couples I've known who lived together before entering into happy and enduring marriages, began living together as roommates, had the relationship develop from there, and married before there were children.

Conversely, it is possible to have a happy, long term commitment without living together, though probably not the best way to have kids together.
Kimberly Christine
wish I was an expat
01:34 AM on 09/25/2011
I think the article really neglects the role of poverty. The articles I have read by the author seem to come from a very middle class perspective. Cohabitors are a lot poorer than married couples. But why? Are people cohabiting because they are poor? Are they poor because they are cohabiting with a nogoodnik? Are they not married because they cannot afford "the wedding"? Because they want to keep their options open but still have regular sex and someone to help with bills and housecleaning? Because their person is not good enough to marry, but ok to have sex with or live with? There are a lot of variables I am sure, but there is that oft-cited statistic that most people break up, married or otherwise, over money issues. I think cohabiting is tied to 30 years of Reaganomics, personally.
09:31 PM on 09/24/2011
marriage is just a way to lose a lot of money in case of a divorce
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08:54 PM on 09/24/2011
Shacking up is cheap, it mostly amounts to some woman being "used", not loved or respected! That is why women have lost all respect. It makes difficult to develop true love in a later marriage and the marriage becomes a marriage of convenience without love or respect! Who wants to marry a man or woman that no one knows where or with whom they have been?
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kmc528
I ALWAYS have an opinion....
10:02 PM on 09/24/2011
My ex wouldn't shack up, but after we got married I found out just how many women he'd been with ... including while we were dating! It doesn't require shacking up for someone to be promiscuous.
08:40 PM on 09/24/2011
Anyone that thinks marraige is a good idea should be forced to eat the same meal for the rest of their lives ...
10:24 PM on 09/24/2011
Haha. I call my gf "vanilla ice cream" sometimes for that reason.
11:47 PM on 09/24/2011
really? well maybe you just haven't tried him/her with a different spice. Marriage is more like chicken. There's 500 ways to prepare chicken that all taste very different and if you're getting bored with it, you can't blame the chicken. It's your own fault for not going to the fricking grocery store and checking out the spice aisle.
And no, I'm NOT just referring to sex here. Jimmy Buffet's "if You Like Pina Colada" is a perfect illustration of truth. Maybe the reason your spouse is getting boring is because you assume you know everything they like or want and haven't really checked it out.
02:22 PM on 09/27/2011
yeah, stupid attitude, marriage would only come like that if you just let everything stagnate and never took the opportunity to have novel experiences together. Personally I find camping trips and outdoor psychedelic trance parties the perfect experience to strengthen the bond between me and my partner, and help us connect in a space unfettered by the mundane and the stresses of capitalist life. I can see co-habiting being the kiss of death for a relationship if you just co-habit together and never work on nurturing that bond outside of the home.
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BlueCollarChick
Be the person your dog thinks you are.
08:40 PM on 09/24/2011
I will never date, marry, or cohabitate with anyone. Problem solved.
10:25 PM on 09/24/2011
Sounds too fun.
12:00 AM on 10/30/2011
that's my plan for now, lol. solo sex is totally underrated IMO.
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count4eternity
Grace greater than all our sin!
08:40 PM on 09/24/2011
Oh wow, could we BE more lost?

God made a wonderful plan for men and women and children, and it WORKS, when it's done right.
So this writer concedes a few point and rebels against others, and we all pick and choose and rail against nature and whine when things go wrong.

Mock me all you want. There is a "manufacturer's manual" written by our all wise and all loving Creator, and it tells us how to has a successful life. God is not some cosmic buzz-kill. He's a loving Father, and this is the cry of His heart:

"Oh that there were such an heart in them,
that they would reverence Me,
and keep all My commandments always,
THAT IT MIGHT BE WELL WITH THEM,
AND WITH THEIR CHILDREN, FOREVER! "
(Deuteronomy 5:29)
12:03 AM on 09/25/2011
um... the same manual that tells us to stone any woman who touches a man while she's having her "courses"? Or to murder every child of our enemies? I'm very much a believer in God but don't spout your understanding of the Bible at ME unless you intend to follow EVERY piece of it so religiously. Which means you don't do anything but church on sundays, (not even having sex with your spouse or cooking dinner) you NEVER swear by anything or enter written contracts (because Jesus Himself told us not to) and you Always cover anything that might make someone lust after you. Marriage is something to strive for, but not every man or woman CAN have a marriage worth keeping and living together is one flawed human attempt to try to solve that beFORE entering into forever.
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Vicki Larson
Journalist, mother, thinker
12:56 PM on 09/25/2011
And let's not forget that the Catholic Church was against marriage in the beginning; when it realized it couldn't stop it, it started wanting to control it ...
02:43 PM on 09/27/2011
Get rid of outdated and archaic belief systems that feed your negative impulses and the desire of the human ego to create distinctions and you will eventually find yourself a much more fulfilled & whole human being. I was once like you but I realized that an "all-loving god" who needs people to believe in him to be saved is really not an all loving at all. The divine energy that courses through all sentient beings in this universe has no petty, human restrictions on his/her/our capacity to love, regardless of a particular individuals current state of spiritual progress.
08:33 PM on 09/24/2011
My boyfriend and I are on our second year of living together. We only live with each other for 9 months out of the year for college, but it still came with its challenges. Last year was tough. We both were very busy with school, and neither one of us really wanted to contribute to domestic duties, usually the biggest frustration of cohabitation. I felt like I was doing more than he was, but during the summer we talked about the problems we faced during the first year before moving back in with each other. I do the cooking, because I'm better at it, and let's face it, his cooking involves the microwave. He does most of the cleaning, and we both each do our own laundry, or one does it and the other puts it away. It's less stressful this time around. The most important thing I would tell a couple thinking about moving in together is to reevaluate their communication. They need to be able to tell each other every thing and be able to resolve those issues. We both talk about marriage and kids often. It's something that we both want and neither one is being pressured by the other, and we both know that we want to do it together. This article is right. It's not for every one, but then again marriage isn't right for a lot of people either.
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gavin012706
08:33 PM on 09/24/2011
I knew someone whose mother cohabitated with a wealthy fellow for many years and they grew old together. She was totally supported by him until he passed away and his children literally took her out of the house with nothing but her clothes and items belonging to her. She never had a plan to support herself should the relationship go south. She is now penniless in a nursing home. Cohabitation is okay if both individuals have the ablility to take care of themselves should the relationship go sour.
09:34 PM on 09/24/2011
he could have put her on his will if they were so committed
08:03 PM on 09/24/2011
Divorced after 15 years of marriage, I decided to move in with my boyfriend. Bad idea. We've been together for 9 years, but I am the one who does all the customary "'wife" things like cooking, cleaning, laundry, food shopping, but I don't get any of the benefits that a legal wife gets. We both work. We split the rent, cable and gas and electric bill. I buy the food. He has all of the benefits of this relationship. I have none.
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Fran Jaime
Yo Soy 132!
08:58 PM on 09/24/2011
Why are you still there?
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JWheels
09:34 PM on 09/24/2011
Try leaving after spending years with someone, I have learned from experience that it's much harder than most people assume.
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Jack2011
02:44 AM on 09/27/2011
You deserve better - life is way too short. Dont be afraid to be out on your own. It's possible to actually feel more alone when you live with someone than being on your own. Don't wait til you find someone else because you most likely will find yourself in the same place. Start saving and find a place. It's not starting over, it's moving on with YOUR life.
This is just my opinion based on friends I have who some are and some were in a similar situation as you. Good luck to you no matter what path you choose.
thebigbike
ran away to be a cowboy
07:29 PM on 09/24/2011
my partner and I cohabited for 26 years before we got married ( of a total primary relationship of 30 years). Of course, we COULDN'T marry (each other) before then, and then, only for a period of about 5 months. But, after having been married 4 years now, we're still TA-DAAAA! together.
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06:53 PM on 09/24/2011
I like this idea. I'm 30. Was married for 4 years before having a baby, then divorced almost immediately after said baby was born (not my choice). Then ended up in a live in situation that after a year and half of a being in a relationship, and a few months of couples counselling ended. Right now I've been single for a year. I can't imagine living with someone again. I love the idea of seeing someone, or being in a relationship that doesn't involve seeing the person every single freaking day. I am much nicer when I have my own space. When I can do what I want, when I want. When I can discipline my son without interference. When I put something on the wall without consulting someone else. It just is nice to be my own person, have my own finaniceal situation, be able to leave the dishes in the sink without getting dirty looks or whatever. I know plenty of people who live together and are happy as clams. I was once one of theose people. Right now I'm loving not living with another person (aside from my awesome 4 yr old) People rush into things. I ended up living with my husband, and then my boyfriend for all the wrong reasons. It was just the most convenient thing at the time.
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grayplace
Life's a dream within a dream.
06:51 PM on 09/24/2011
I've always believed that getting married should be extremely difficult, in order lots of opportunities to be sure that the other person is THE ONE. Divorce should be easy.
recless
Evidence first. Believe later. Maybe.
10:10 PM on 09/24/2011
Pre-nup requirement for getting the marriage license. Maybe wouldn't help people with their relationships but would do good for killing off the divorce industry.