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Just How Private Should Divorce Be?

Posted: 08/13/2012 3:39 am

Your friend tells you he's getting divorced. You're shocked because he and his wife always seemed like the perfect couple. You're worried for them and their young kids, and their divorce causes you to reflect about a lot of things you've observed about marriage.

You know enough from your own parents' divorce how unhappy things can be for the kids, how emotionally and financially hard it can be for one spouse or the other, how even a "good" divorce can be fraught with complications once new loves arrive on the scene.

Beyond that, they're the third couple in your circle of friends to divorce in the past year. You start to question your own marriage -- are we next? Are we being blind to our own issues, not so different from those of our friends? Are we truly as happy and committed as we say we are, or others believe us to be?

You feel somewhat helpless but anxious: What do you do? What should you do? What can you do, if anything? Still, you know that some marriages can't -- and shouldn't -- be salvaged.

We wed in a great public display of love and commitment. Divorce, however, is a totally private and personal event. But, is it really?

Perhaps not, suggests M. Christian Green, a senior fellow at the Center for the Study of Law and Religion at Emory University and a former lecturer at Harvard Divinity School.

Divorce doesn't just affect a couple and their immediate family; friends, neighbors and entire communities are impacted as well, she writes in "There But for the Grace: The Ethics of Bystanders to Divorce," an article in the Institute for American Values' newsletter, "Propositions."

Green suggests it may be wrong to view divorce as merely a personal choice with limited impacts. In looking at "the public effects of the divorce revolution, its implications for both the moral formation of individuals and the well-being of society, and what, if anything, organizations of government and civil society should do," divorce might be better seen as a decision that has far greater implications, she says. Like other so-called private actions, divorce may have "wider, sometimes unintended and unanticipated, effects on surrounding communities and the wider society," she states.

Do others who witness a divorce experience a "there but for the grace of God go I" moment? Does this witness produce bystander anxiety? Does it produce something like survivor's guilt? How does witnessing the divorce and family disruption of others affect the bystander's own worldview when it comes to normative images of marriage, family, society and self? Extending the circle of bystanders even further, what effect does the witness of divorce have on society as a whole? Has the divorce culture produced a kind of cultural trauma?

It's clear the "divorce revolution" is impacting twenty- and thirty-somethings, especially men, many who are delaying or avoiding marriage altogether.

Green cites studies that suggest divorce is somewhat contagious, not in a disease sort of way, but in its ripple effect -- one couple's divorce can influence divorce among siblings, friends, neighbors and even co-workers.

In addition to "contagion" theories, there's the "generational dimension" -- adult children of divorce tend to divorce, too.

Finally, she says, the breakup of a family may be no different than other trauma, such as war, terrorism, genocide, natural disasters and unemployment, in a child's eyes. Green suggests our current definition of cultural trauma -- although "controversial and contested" -- is broad enough to include divorce. A child of divorce may experience the same economic deprivation, relocation, shame, guilt and memories that "shape moral formation" as those who have experienced other traumas.

Ultimately, she says, all of us are impacted by divorce, even if it's not our own.

"(W)hen we bring research on divorce into conversation with rich, emerging bodies of work on social contagion and cultural trauma, we see that bystander effects, while indirect and diffuse, may be no less real or consequential, and that they beckon us to individual and collective reflection on the broader effects of the 'divorce revolution.'"

Does that mean we, as bystanders, have a right to ask more of those who may be considering divorce? Should couples think beyond their own needs and desires when they weigh the pros and cons of dissolving their family? Should bystanders have any say in a couple's divorce?

It would seem somewhat crazy to tell a friend that his divorce is not only causing you distress, but that it also may put ideas into your spouse's head, which may lead to your own divorce, thus impacting your kid's "moral formation" -- and could he please just give counseling one more try? After all, it's none of our business. But, perhaps it is.

What do you think?

 
 
 

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Swimdude
12:26 PM on 08/15/2012
My x-wife had 3 other close friends that all divorced their husbands within a 24 month period. So 4 divorces in 2 years. It was like something in the water was causing all 4 of these, apparently unhappy wives to leave their husbands for better men. Nine years 3 of the 4 have already divorced those husbands and moved on to other unsuspecting men.
11:52 PM on 08/19/2012
I like the "unsuspecting" part. If people really changed we wouldn't still be watching Shakespeare.
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Swimdude
09:47 PM on 08/22/2012
Love Shakespeare. I know these 3 women very well and they are all out for what they can get from a man. Sad really, but that's just how it is...
01:59 PM on 08/14/2012
In today's world of the internet and instant commuications, nothing seems private anymore. Frankly, it's nobody else's business when two people can no longer continue a broken marriage. It takes hard work and understanding to keep lines of communication open and feelings clearly understood. I finalally learned some of these lessons after two failed marriages. Nearly 25 years later, we are still going strong because we are best friends and not only love, but like and respect each other.
If id only known those lessons back when...well who knows? My point is, its' other people's problems if they let someon'e divorce upset their apple cart. The couple divorcing isn't to blame. As for children of divorced parents being more likely to divorce...both my adult children are in happy, stable marriages with wonderful spouses. Generalizing is a bit dangereous don't you think?
01:29 PM on 08/14/2012
Should bystanders have any say in a couple's divorce?

YES!!!

How dare any of us protect adulterers?

“My husband was a church elder and business leader. We have 12 children together. Amazingly, I discovered how many adulterers were in our church as a result of his betrayal of me and our children. He gave communion, counsel and prayer during his 4 year affair with his secretary.

My husband has now married this woman and the people who profess Christ are the LOUDEST voices that cheer them on. My husband divorced me to marry this promiscuous woman and the assistant pastor has also done the same.

Both men divorced their wives of 20 and 35 years in the fall of 2008 and remarried their other women in the spring and early summer of 2009. The senior pastor even stood as best man for the assistant pastor in his European wedding!” --Anonymous/Washington State

Over and over the world is appalled by people who have dishonored their marriage covenant (John Edwards) but not in the church, they are not appalled---they are the greatest defenders of such actions.

http://www.cadz.net/mdr.html
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12:20 AM on 08/17/2012
You don't have to write anything, just post your name, and we get it.
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dancerctry
I love Gardening and Decorating
12:09 PM on 08/14/2012
Divorce is a mourning process. I know a few people who are divorced but not in the scenario she mentions. It makes me wonder if they all share a personality trait or lack certain life skills like sharing, communication and compromise that lead to a relationship breakdown. If your group is one by one divorcing maybe the best thing you can do before your marriage is included is look at the personalities of those involved (do they minimize each other's feelings? do they seem intune to each other's needs? are they joking about each others faults a lot but rarely complimenting?) These are things you can see in social settings. If your friends do these things and you do to, get to a marriage councilor before the fighting starts and start making new couple friends. My uncle is long ago divorced. They got married because she had with my cousin. 12 years later, it was over. They wouldn't have married otherwise. My mom's cousin fell in love with another woman. They married 10 years ago. His ex is really strange though. THe other divocee I know is my twice divorced sil and she's very emasculating. Physically abused by her first husband after 13 years she kicked out her second when he decided to stop taking the emasculation. If you are practicing bad relationship behaviors, you're not going to notice it in others because you won't see it as being bad.
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Silver Star
11:53 AM on 08/14/2012
It's not anyone else's business if you have decided on a divorce and to try and make someone else feel guilty about it is ridiculous. I've often thought everyone else had a better marriage than I did, had husbands who were more attentive and loving, etc., only to find out when I got to know these couples and talk with the wives or husbands, that things were not as rosy as I thought they were...we don't know what goes on behind closed doors but I can tell you most marriages are not as happy as you think and what you see in public is not what is true behind closed doors, thus an over 50% divorce rate. I think the rate would even be higher if people didn't have so much to lose when they divorced. For many, it's a marriage of convenience and trying to keep someone else from getting a divorce because it would affect you in some way is just plain silly. If your marriage is that strong, nothing anyone else does could affect it.
10:33 AM on 08/14/2012
I know someone who has a husband who hasn't lived with her for over a year and doesn't want to go back with her either. She just keeps hoping that he will leave his girlfriend and come back to her. It's really pathetic. She just doesn't want anyone to know that they are separated and that he wants to divorce her. They had an arrainged marriage and I guess it's a cultural thing, but jez, who wants to hang on to something that's not there just because of what people might say about a divorce.
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Louie Rey
10:22 AM on 08/14/2012
The sure sign of a divorce is a marriage in the first place. Not to be cynical or anything but it seems that the minute you get married the clock starts ticking towards the end of the relationship. It's alomst as if getting married is some kind of required celebration that has to be undertaken whether it's something that is even thought out long term. There are seven billion people on the planet. Are you seriously going to find THE ONE out of that pool of candidates? I love my wife but I have to be honest with you, if Salma Hayek knocked on my front door, I"M OUTTA HERE! In fact, even my wife said when we got married in 1990 that if Sting or Tom Cruise (my wife didn't know he was insane then) or Kevin Costner showed up at our house she'd do the same thing. That's the good news. Now she'd leave if Carrot Top, Pauly Shore or Pee Wee Herman showed up!
10:45 AM on 08/15/2012
That is hilarious. With that kind of sense of humor and honesty you dont need to be looking at the ticking clock...enjoy what you have!
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Louie Rey
01:23 PM on 08/15/2012
Thanks. I enjoy it as much as my wife allows me to! Actually, my wife thinks I'm pretty funny also but then again, looks aren't everything.
10:20 AM on 08/14/2012
Wow. What an interesting topic. As I have been going through my divorce and potentially over analyzing every aspect of it, I think I thought about the ripple effect it may have but not to this level. I think it makes a lot of sense. Not only are we a society of people who throw things out rather than fixing them, we are also a bunch of lemmings...following in the footsteps of the person in front of you. It makes sense that divorce would also apply. I have been trying to write about things I feel I did wrong in my marriage and ways I could have corrected them. Hopefully, I can make people think about why they should work on their marriage instead of giving it up.

http://marriedtosingle.blogspot.com/
08:40 AM on 08/14/2012
This article is exactly what all cheating partners need to read before they decide to leave. i'm involved in a bitter divorce in my family and I hope the jerk who left realizes that not only did he hurt his ex, my sister, but probably destroyed his girls future relationships. Needless to say he still thinks its all about him and no one should critisize what he (came out as gay after the money was gone) did even though the whole town knows. Divorces were once totally public, you had to post it in some newspapers in town, and I am all for it again. Embarass the bastards, male or female, stop the charade of being a nice person, YOUR NOT!!!
08:00 AM on 08/14/2012
When I got divorced I was very embarashed especially since my X was cheating on me. When friends found out a lot of them turned their back to me. I had 1 friend who saw me coming and turned around and went the other direction. Divorce tells you who your friends and family really are.
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Brianna Cole
Which one wins? The one you feed.
10:51 PM on 08/13/2012
Its easy. Friends get divorced. She runs to you (the woman), he runs to him (the husband). The bi#$%& begins. You start to empathize, argue with your spouse, start believing inane things about your spouse, yada yada yada... DIVORCE! Note to self: Don't get too involved in your friend's divorce.
08:34 PM on 08/13/2012
As far as anyone's opinion of how my divorce may have affected them? No one knows what goes on behind closed doors. Do the work and focus on your own marriage and do the work required to maintain other friendships you may have. It's not your concern..

If you're concerned at all... notice the 40 year old woman who left her entire life and home and financial security and took nothing but her kids because that's all she really cares about and look at the guy living the same life as always in the big house all alone and do the calculations..maybe you'd realize that my divorce has more of an effect on me and my kids than it could ever have on you and it IS the right decision for us! Maybe you'd invite us over for dinner and make us feel like we're still a part of your lives instead of backing off because it's so hard on YOU!
09:08 AM on 08/14/2012
Well said! It amazed me that everyone acted as though I somehow had less "staying power" and had gotten a divorce as an easy out. I don't think so! As a stay-at-home Mom who suddenly had a to get a full time job to support my 5 kids, why would I choose divorce unless it were the lesser of two evils? The fact that my kids are NOW thriving, is affirmation that divorce was the right decision for us. I liked your last sentence. It is amazing how a lot of people start treating you like a pariah once you're divorced. If a wedding ring is the price of social acceptance, forget it. It comes at too steep a cost. Sure shows who your true friends are, though, doesn't it? Best wishes to you as you build a new life for your kids.
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Lisa Arends
Author, wellness coach, and teacher
07:55 PM on 08/13/2012
I never had the chance to keep my divorce private (his mugshot was scattered across TVs and newspapers with the tagline "bigamist") but I chose to go public once I realized that those of us that are further along can extend a hand and help others who are still in the trenches.
http://lessonsfromtheendofamarriage.com
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dancerctry
I love Gardening and Decorating
12:01 PM on 08/14/2012
Wow I can't imagine the embaressment you felt! Divorce itself takes a mourning process but I can't imagine the additional levels of anger/sadness/stress/frustration/ect...... that must have caused. But I think it's important to treat divorce like it's a big deal. I like your approach.
07:10 PM on 08/13/2012
If the dissolution of a marriage has not only personal but also societal impacts, then logically the formation of that same marriage also must have both personal and societal impacts. Perhaps the solution, then, lies not in trying to impose blame on those who get divorced but instead in trying to reformulate the concept of "marriage" so that the dissolution of a marriage does not have exaggerated negative effects.

One way to limit the negative impacts of divorce would be to free marriage from its current connection with religion, which imposes a lifelong term on marriage. Instead, make marriage akin to a civil contract with a set term, with provisions for renewal for one or more additional terms if the parties mutually agree to renewal of the marriage. If the two parties were to enter into a marriage knowing that it has only a limited term unless they both agree to extend it, the "emotional trauma" associated with the end of a marriage should be reduced significantly.
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Vicki Larson
Journalist, mom, always questioning
09:13 AM on 08/14/2012
Indeed, taikan. That's why Susan Pease Gadoua and I are writing "The New I Do: Reshaping Marriage for Cynics, Commitaphobes and Connubial DIYers" — the goal for all of us should be to marry smarter so we'll divorce less (and remove the stigma of divorce as a "failure")
04:42 PM on 08/16/2012
I question whether most people still think there is a stigma of "failure" to divorce. 

In addition, you are assuming that a marriage that lasts a lifetime should be the goal.  Other than for religious reasons, why should that be the case?  Why not just get married with the expectation that the marriage will last as long as both parties to the marriage want to continue the marital relationship, and only that long? 
07:08 PM on 08/13/2012
"Contagion" indeed! My wife was about third among her first-generation, Maltese-American, first cousins to divorce. Shortly-thereafter, her younger brother engaged in adultery with a co-worker and his high-school-sweetheart-bride divorced him. The other two pillars of the Communist triad besides easy divorce are artificial contraceptives and legal abortion. All promote sexual promiscuity and undermine Godly marriage and families. [No one ever said Catholicism had to be politically-correct.]
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jf12
Esta vez saldré como las otras y me escaparé.
10:21 AM on 08/14/2012
Yes. It makes it easier for the powers that be to manipulate women, if they aren't supposed to listen to their husbands.