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Why Men Should Take A Lesson From Women On Cheating

Posted: 04/21/2012 4:00 pm

I wouldn't want to be one of the 11 Secret Service agents who engaged in hanky-panky with hookers in Colombia right now. Not just because of the uncomfortable media exposure and forced resignations, but because when they get home to their wives or significant others, you just know there's going to be some 'splaining to do. And, "But this was the first time, honey, honest," probably isn't going to cut it.

"Why aren't there more (or any?!) female Secret Service agents?" laments blogger Kiri Blakeley. By her reasoning there should be because, "Women don't get into trouble the way men do."

We don't?

True, you rarely hear of sex scandals the likes of this when you get a bunch of women together for a gals' night -- although who knows what really goes on behind the locked hotel doors in Vegas after a Thunder From Down Under show?

Women do indeed get into trouble "the way men do" -- we're just as capable of cheating, lying and all sorts of manipulative behavior. For a brief time there was even a prostidude at a Nevada bordello, so it's obvious that some of us are just as willing to pay for sex. It's just that we don't get in trouble en masse, frat-boy-style like so many men do. Women are just as lascivious, but we're a lot more discreet.

In fact, men could take a few lessons from us.

This isn't the first time we've seen men behaving badly in public, and that's part of the problem. When men act so scandalous in such a public way, whether hiring a bunch of hookers as the Secret Service agents did or just one -- at thousands a pop as former New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer did -- it makes guys look bad. Not all guys, because we all know more men than not who would never act like that, as tempted as they may be. But those public sexual scandals confirm for many women that men are ruled by what's between their legs and not what's in their head.

Perhaps that's why most of us seem to be much more forgiving when women stray.

I'm not saying it's right or good; I'm just saying it's pretty much true.

Last year, Tom Matlack of the Good Men Project took objection to that. "When was the last time a woman got dragged through the mud for cheating?" he asked.

"Why do we have a national obsession with men's infidelity? Is it some kind of backlash, a hidden gender war buried in our collective subconscious? I just don't get it, and it's beginning to piss me off," he says. Then he rattles off a list of celebrity women who cheated and were "forgiven," including "Eat, Pray, Love" author Elizabeth Gilbert, who got a "free pass" because after her sexual shenanigans she went on a spiritual journey and found "real" love.

A few days later on that same site, Blixa Scott picked up where Matlack left off. In wondering why we forgive adulterous women, she notes that when women cheat we tend to (erroneously) think it isn't all about lust and longing -- it's about love and romance and soul mates. "The lesson here is that our culture is intolerant of adultery when it seems to flow purely from libido. But when adultery is bound up in (a) story of love, well, we're willing to look the other way. ... And until our culture stops polarizing male and female sexuality by insisting that men only lust and women only love, the adultery double standard will prevail."

Perhaps that's true when we're talking about celebrity cheaters, but not the world most of us live in. Look at your own friendship circle; I'm willing to bet that most of us tend to support the person, male or female, who was cheated on and, yes, for many of us, that more often than not is the woman. Men still tend to do most of the cheating, but give women time; we're catching up.

Of the women who are cheaters, sympathies tend to be divided; while friends aren't necessarily willing to justify an adulterous wife's actions (even if she herself is spinning a good story of why she needed to cheat), forgiveness often comes easier if her hubby was considered to be a jerk to begin with. But if he's seen as a nice guy, a cheating wife can and often is cast aside just as easily and quickly as if she were a cheating husband.

And please don't keep thinking that women cheat just for romance and love, or because we're not getting fulfilled at home; we also cheat for the thrill of it, the passion and the novelty, and because we can -- just like men. Sometimes, it really is just about the sex. Let's face it -- monogamy is hard!

But we don't tend to engage in the kind of sexual drunkfests that some men do, especially if we're high-powered women. It has nothing to do with boys-will-be-boys machismo in the name of our country either; the last time I looked, there were women putting their life on the line for all of us every day. You can't blame testosterone for being stupid (although as I've pointed out before, testosterone-laden guys are more likely to cheat, divorce and have marital woes).

So, just imagine how the Secret Service scandal might have played out if after the big booze fest, each man slipped off solo, hit up a hooker and quietly took her to his room (and paid her the asking price, obviously; you mean we're getting underpaid here, too?). No scandal, no disgrace, and his sweetheart at home would be none the wiser.

Now, that's the way to cheat!

 
 
 

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10:48 PM on 04/30/2012
Wow. From a lot of the comments I see on here, it seems like a lot of men are ok with cheating and defending their actions. Sure women cheat, but I highly doubt it's as much as men. This is probably why women shouldn't get married. Men think they are the only ones losing in divorce court. If you look at the younger generations - there are more women getting university degrees than men and they will be comprising more of the work force. Women will be either earning as much if not more than men. I already see plenty of women being screwed in divorce court right now - and it will only increase in the future. Ladies, if you value yourselves at all, you will not commit to a man - they will cheat and hurt you.
06:08 PM on 04/25/2012
Lets hope our claim to fame could be something more productive to ourselves as individuals as well as humanity as a whole than entering into a monogommous relationship and be better at cheating than men.
Cheating in the secret servce went on because systemmcally it was allowed to continue.By allowing behavior like this to perpetuate it was covertly encouraged. The majority of individuals in the Secret Servce are men I would suspect, so there is less likelyhood that based on numbers this would have been women caught doing this.
Having said that the integrity of an individual is not limited to one gender male or female but it is a measurement of charecter.
Being a woman I can say that I have only had one friend that admitted to even an emotional cheat. The distance grew between us as she continued, we found we had less and less in common.
So male or female, probably if your friends are cheaters theres a likelyhood that you congregate with like minded individuals. Its not a competition for excercising bad behavior. Shouldnt be tolerated in either one.
Birds of a feather.....
03:05 PM on 04/27/2012
You would be surprised at how many or your friends' husbands cheat. Women are easily tricked.
06:17 PM on 04/27/2012
Well women rise up!! LOL Nothing like painting with a broad brush stroke that an entire gender is trickable. No demeaning predjudice there!

As far as my friends husbands go...they don't underestimate their wives I.Q. or niavte.

Heres a suggestion....get a better group of female friends for reference LOL!!!!
12:58 AM on 04/28/2012
@Clind12 it's not about wives IQ's or Naiveté, my references are males. I have unfortunately been privileged to see this men's hidden subculture quite by accident. Yes, we have been tricked...its part of the male cheating paradigm. Our mothers and grandmothers never told us about this, I am unsure whether or not they were aware enough to warn us, nor would any women (including you, interestingly enough) believe it’s true. What I learned is woman’s greatest nightmare. You don’t have to believe me…women are dumb when it comes to this because it’s been well hidden before our eyes…and I have the ability to do the research as well; I have a gifted IQ:)
04:30 PM on 04/25/2012
Why Men Should Take A Lesson From Women On Cheating. Cheating is wrong, why would a man or women want to take lessons from a woman who cheats? I know the stats say women cheat more than men, but to give lessons on how to cheat, REALLY.
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10:03 AM on 04/25/2012
Tom Matlack should have actually picked up a copy of "Eat, Pray, Love" before accusing Ms. Gilbert of cheating. She did not get into another relationship until she told her ex-husband that she wanted a divorce and they were no longer living under the same roof. And, no, I don't give women a pass on cheating, nor do I give men a pass. The cases in my life where cheating has come up are evaluated on a case by case basis, and even then, if I'm not in the relationship, what do I know?
03:43 PM on 04/24/2012
I can only assume that this article was meant to be somewhat tongue in cheek and that the author doesn't really think that men who cheat should take a lesson from women who cheat and learn how to do it better.

I would hope we can all agree that nobody should be cheating on anybody. And please understand that is not a statement against open relationships so please keep that argument out of this discussion. People in open relationships are honest about their intent to be faithful or not. People who cheat are people in supposedly monogamist relationships who lie to their partner about being faithful. That is not something to either aspire to or be proud of.

As to the descriptions of how most men cheat and how most women cheat, I couldn't say if it's accurate or not. But for as many reasons as there are for anyone to cheat, it's still a choice and in the end is the responsibility only of the one who does the cheating.
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Vicki Larson
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08:47 PM on 04/25/2012
@beulah4 — Of course; I am not promoting cheating. I'm also not promoting stupidity on either gender's part!
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SocialistDistortion
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02:36 PM on 04/24/2012
This is a poor article. How about instead of offering lessons on how to be a better cheater, liar, and betrayer of trust...we offer how to be more caring, loving, and honest with one another?
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Kailuabred
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04:26 PM on 04/24/2012
No one wants to read that!
12:43 PM on 04/24/2012
As someone who used to go on a lot of business trips, I know what you say is true: Women cheat, but they're smarter about it. That said, I don't cheat. I don't want my husband sleeping around on me, so I don't sleep around on him.
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jf12
Esta vez saldré como las otras y me escaparé.
11:30 AM on 04/24/2012
To reiterate, and learn it this time please, slightly higher or lower levels of testosterone DO NOT affect healthy men's behavior, at all, in the slightest. Not aggresion, not libido, not a bit. The reason is that healthy men overproduce testosterone already. If you thought otherwise, change your thinking.

http://jcem.endojournals.org/content/89/6/2837.full
O’Connor D., Archer J., Wu F. 2004. Effects of Testosterone on Mood, Aggression, and Sexual Behavior in Young Men: A Double-Blind, Placebo-Controlled, Cross-Over Study. The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism, 89, 2837-2845.

Persky H., Lief H., Strauss D., Miller W., O'Brien C. 1978. Plasma testosterone level and sexual behaviour of couples. Archives of Sexual Behavior, 7, 157-173.

Anderson RA, et al. 1992. The effects of exogenous testosterone on sexuality and mood of normal men. Journal of Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism, 75, 1503-1507.

Alexander GM, et al. 1997. Androgen-behaviour correlations in hypogonadal men and eugonadal men I. Mood and response to auditory sexual. stimuli. Hormones and Behavior, 31, 110-119.
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02:05 AM on 04/24/2012
perhaps we should encourage people to either end a relationship or not cheat.
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06:15 PM on 04/23/2012
I don't know if women are better at cheating or not but I will certainly say that men tend to believe that their spouses/girlfriends will never cheat on them. Its some type of bubble we create around ourselves thinking that could never happen to us because women show more devotion to a relationship than men.
09:38 PM on 04/23/2012
I'm going to have to agree on this. Someone brought this up in a discussion a while ago in my group. The theory goes that men are raised in the most impressionable ages usually by a women. We trust our mothers to guide us in the earlier parts of our lives. When we are ready to marry we usually find someone that fits our mothers persona to marry. Here is the trick question......

How many of us know if our mothers commited infidelity in those during those years?

Even if a child did know they would be too young to make much out of a act of infidelity. The phrase goes "Mother is the name of god on the lips of a child". If you believe in a god then a mother is all there is to a child. Many men take the same stance with a wife and project onto them the grandeur of their mother. It has only been in recent years that some men have started to remove the blindfold. More women hav been openly forward about cheating and declaring their right to do so. You can read this in multiple blog and articles everywhere. How many are reasoning that cheating is justified simply based on the fact that they are female.
09:39 PM on 04/23/2012
Women and men are at a point in history where our roles are changing. More men are taking up the mantle of the "House Husband" and more women are filling the workforce like never before.

I could go on but i drift off topic. I will just say that i have had some experience in these scenarios and although i love my mother dearly. I have no doubt of skeletons in the closet. I take the same stance with my wife because if it is too good to be true.....it usually is.
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Helena Williamstom
05:44 PM on 04/23/2012
Women are better cheaters because we do not change our patterns; men do. This is one of the reasons men ALWAYS get caught!
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12:59 AM on 04/24/2012
That's not true.
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10:06 AM on 04/24/2012
You are 100% correct. Also women never get caught with the sun hitting their face and not being home. Men..jsut have to fall asleep afterwards
05:34 PM on 04/23/2012
Miss Larson

As a blogger i am sure that your ideas have clashed with that of many people. You may not have meant this to be casual or flamboyant but that is open to interpretation by others from their own unique perspective.

If i did insult you or your article it was not my intention but just my understanding of it. The good thing is that through your article ideas are formed. Some may be good and some may be bad. The point is that it opened a dialogue in some circles. That is something you can be proud of.
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07:52 PM on 04/23/2012
@Selac — Thank you for this, but I am not easily insulted, especially by people who ask and prod and want to know more and have something intelligent to add (versus the ones who just want to insult me for the sake of insulting me; I just ignore them!). I always appreciate anyone who adds to the dialog although it is curious to see how far off topic it can go!
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05:15 PM on 04/23/2012
Getting away with cheating is nothing to feel proud off. All you are doing is taking advantage of the extraordinary trust your partner has invested in you. Its like taking candy from a baby. Even if you suck at it they will still want to believe your lies. Betraying that trust is one of the lousiest things you can do to another person. If you have issues that can't be worked through or needs that can't be met end the relationship. That will do less long term damage than eventually getting caught (and you will).
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Oregonian76
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04:20 PM on 04/23/2012
You shouldn't cite a study from 4 years ago about rates of cheating among men & women. Here's one from last year that says it's nearly equal:

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/women-cheating-men-study/story?id=13885519
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01:49 AM on 04/24/2012
I'd trust a longitudinal study of 19,000 more than this recent, much smaller study. According to the General Social Survey: "The most reliable data, researchers say, comes from that question posed in the nationally representative General Social Survey, a face-to-face interview. David Atkins' new study of trends over a 15-year period from 1991 to 2006 in which 19,065 people participated found that infidelity rates were climbing among certain age groups: those 60 and older and those 35 and younger.

Rates among older women tripled from 5% in 1991 to 15% in 2006; rates among men rose from 20% to 28%. About 20% of younger men and 15% of younger women say ."
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Oregonian76
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10:23 AM on 04/24/2012
I don't trust MOST of the surveys. The basic premise is flawed: even if fully anonymous, a lot of people simply won't admit to something they know to be morally wrong, because at a minimum, they are at least admitting it to themselves (something most cheaters cannot do). However, regardless of the survey type, more recent data is almost always going to be closer to the truth than older data. There could be a 50-year study that ended in 2005 and it would be less relevant than a study done in 2010-11 simply because societal attitudes have shifted in the last 5-7 years.
03:45 PM on 04/23/2012
Speaking as a husband whose ex-wife cheated, I knew, but was just happy that someone else had to sleep with her.
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01:26 PM on 04/24/2012
Which is why she wanted someone other than you...
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08:18 AM on 04/25/2012
now that was not necessary...he already said that and tried to use humour to help cover up how she ripped his heart out with a meat hook...ooops.