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Online Classrooms: Trash or Treasure?

Posted: 07/13/2012 5:40 pm

Winston Churchill once said, "There is nothing wrong with change, if it is in the right direction," an assertion that accurately describes the possible peril connected to a trend entering colleges and universities across the country: the online class.

Sixty-five percent of higher education institutions now say that online learning is a critical part of their long-term strategy and more than 6.1 million students were taking at least one online course during the fall 2010 term, an increase of 560,000 students from the previous year, according to the Sloan Reports' "Going the Distance: Online Education in the United States, 2011."

Those are pretty staggering numbers considering most private schools, such as the college I attend in North Carolina, are fighting to keep their enrollment numbers up in the face of financial aid cuts plaguing the state.

We might find ourselves feeding the need for ultimate convenience and boosting revenues as a trade-off for a solid education.

As mentioned in a piece by The Times of Malta, we are becoming a very secluded society; by diminishing classrooms replaced by electronic portals, there is a level of dehumanization that replaces real-life interaction.

A solid education holds students accountable for attending classes at a certain time, fosters
interactions with a diverse set of individuals, measures whether or not one is truly grasping the
material and gives students the tools they need to survive in the real world.

Will online learning lead to a sort of "bifurcation" of higher ed, where a small minority get the "full-strength" version with on-site living, face-to-face professors and fellow students, inspiration from professors, one-to-one career counseling, networking, etc., vs. the "decaf" version of looking at a screen, only occasionally getting the chance to ask questions in chat rooms or group discussion not to mention the other important aspects of a college education?

Any sensitive theatergoer will tell you that live theater is a completely different experience than watching the same thing on TV or your computer screen. Can the energy that an inspiring teacher calls forth be funneled into a computer screen?

While there has been some definite momentum and excitement as Harvard, MIT and Yale announced online learning projects earlier this year, we should caution ourselves from jumping head first into a seemingly deep pond only to discover it was a puddle.

There seems to be more questions than answers where online education is concerned. Will employers glom on to the certification of online learning grades and quickly determine that an X online grade is equal to a Y grade at MIT, Yale, and Brown for example?

And how quickly will some statistically clever Mark Zuckerberg come up with significant and reliable tables and charts comparing "full-strength" college grades with the equivalent "decaf" grades?

Be that as it may, transforming the classroom experience to your laptop seems to lessen the traditional college experience and thrusts students further away from reality. Turning to an online model for ones educational experience has some pretty far-flung implications and also lacks marketability for real life jobs.

But could my thinking be archaic fodder?

An incredulous college administrator announced that half the world is already using Skype, Apple's FaceTime and texting more than they talk when I suggested that creating an online atmosphere might actually dilute the college brand, experience and connections offered in traditional classrooms across the country.

Essentially, then, I was left to wonder if the perceived complete and utter reliance on emerging
technology should define a student's educational experience.

In a world where students demand certain services it will certainly be interesting to see where this road of leisure leads.

 

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03:06 PM on 07/20/2012
I don't get the point of this posting. This is written by a senior in college and yet there is no research or evidence of any kind to back up these opinions. Do they still teach critical thinking in college? There is tons of research available that shows that there is no significant difference in the outcomes of online and face-to-face classes. http://www.nosignificantdifference.org/ There are bod online colleges and good online colleges - the author of this blog posting has not taken the time to learn the difference. What does this tell us about his college? I have had the misfortune of taking some really bad classes at top notch schools - the professor would not take questions in class, not available for office hours, would rather research than teach - bad teaching can take place anywhere, online and off. The author obviously has no experience in this field - he writes as if distance ed were something that was brand new and untested. I have been involved in distance ed since the 90s as a teacher, instructional designer, and yes, as a student. I would find it really refreshing if the critics of distance ed actually had some experience with the medium. Archaic fodder indeed!
04:21 PM on 07/16/2012
"Any sensitive theatergoer will tell you that live theater is a completely different experience than watching the same thing on TV or your computer screen. Can the energy that an inspiring teacher calls forth be funneled into a computer screen?"

Learning takes place in the theatre of the mind. Even an inspiring teacher can do no more than inspire that play.
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04:19 PM on 07/16/2012
There could be a hybrid model emerge from this. Lecture classes would be gone. Instead, there would be a series of videos posted that the students can watch on their own schedules. Just as students read the textbooks on their own schedules, they can watch the videos on their own schedules.

Class time would be for class discussions and for answering questions and clarification. This would deepen the learning experience and give the students more interaction with a real professor.

In current lecture classes, there is little professor-student interaction. With free on-line classes already available from top professors, colleges will have to start defending what it is they are offering. If all they can say is that they are offering a bunch of lectures that people can already get for free, it is hard to see why many people would accept that.

On the other hand, if they are offering interaction with top professors and class discussions which make the learning more individualized and interesting, then they have something to offer other than high tuition.

Already, some high schools have opted for this method, calling it flipping. Instead of assigning problems to do as homework, the teacher assigns videos to watch on the internet. Then, during the class period, the students work on the problems so the teacher is available if they have questions or need help. Colleges could likewise move to out-of-class videos, saving class time for real interaction with a knowledgeable professor.
12:47 PM on 07/16/2012
Online courses seemed to be promoted by universities trying to cut costs and by students too lazy or too busy to actually attend a course. I have never taken or seen a online course that is challenging or as rewarding as a traditional course. the professor-student interaction is negated, and the student-student interaction is negated. sure people can still post and write emails, but their is a big difference in what can and cannot be said/explained through this sort of communication. online education as a whole seems to be a watered down version of course, with the only perk being flexibility. it is a shame that the education system will most likely move to such a system, not because actual learning is taking place but because our society is now based on a business model of efficiency and cost-reduction.
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11:51 AM on 07/16/2012
I think online education is the way to go. Social media will take online education to another level, just imaging if Facebook was to open an Online University on its Social Network, that would be a game changer.
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07:49 PM on 07/15/2012
Some commenters are bloviating .... This can be good for a sector of the education front. Not for everybody but closing educational avenues is a mistake.... lets explore this further.
12:50 PM on 07/16/2012
online education isnt anything new, it has been a part of many community and private colleges and has resulted in a education that is basically pointless/useless. sure there are some perks to an online course and technology and the internet should be used within the course. but making a course entirely online removes some of the most important communication and learning that happens within a classroom setting.
06:57 PM on 07/16/2012
Its easy to trash online education as pointless and useless - but where are the facts to back up these assertions? Online education is part of a centuries old tradition of distance education. The facts point to a very different reality. Distance education and online learning have been the subject of thousands of studies. The overwhelming evidence is that the outcomes are at least equivalent and the more recent meta-analytic review give the edge to online learning. Millions of students are choosing online education not because its more convenient, but because the quality is often better than what they experience in the classroom. Online education is not new, you are right. Its time tested and actually, for many learners, simply better.
03:05 PM on 07/15/2012
Everything I've read and seen of online education suggests that, for a small minority of self-motivated students already well-grounded in the basics, it's a convenient way to complete classes that isn't nearly as good as an actual class, but the lower quality may be compensated for by the convenience.

For the average student, it's an ineffective trainwreck.

But it's cheaper. That means it can be more profitable. So I don't expect the idea to go away just because it's largely a failure.
07:04 PM on 07/16/2012
These comments are not completely accurate. As someone who has taught online for more than a decade, and conducted and published research on the topic I would suggest another perspective. For many students the quality of online education is superior to classroom education. And systematic research indicates that outcomes are at least equivalent if not superior. Its not necessarily cheaper, in fact it can be more expensive, especially of done well. While the perception that it is profitable may come from the experience of Phoenix University and others - that's a business model that depends on the federal student loan programs that fund the for-profits. As for it going away - its been growing at rates of 5 to 10 times the growth of classroom based higher education for years. One in three of every college student in the country is enrolled in a fully online course. So its unlikely to go away anytime soon.
09:03 PM on 07/16/2012
what is the basis for online education actually being of a higher quality? do student put in more hours, do professors care more? is there more dialogue and discussion? you state that online education is of a higher quality, but why? how is this so?
06:33 AM on 07/17/2012
I've looked at the research; I'm afraid it doesn't seem to say what you claim it does.  I've also seen several examples of online education in practice, and my observations agree with what the research that's been done actually tends to say: as I already stated, it's generally a trainwreck.

But while it's possible that it might not be cheap if done right, it's generally NOT done right, and certainly seems to be cheaper.  The one thing you said that seems to be correct is your last statement: it's not going away.
11:04 AM on 07/15/2012
I disagree with this article. Online learning can be a rewarding and challenging environment. I participated in an online Master's Degree Program from a Major University in Texas and found the work very difficult and relied on the interaction between the teachers and other students to excel. The variety of approaches used by the instructors helped prepare me for today's technology and for the 21st century learning. There is a place for online learning and most students need to experience it to find out if it is right for them. Not all students do well in that environment just like not all students succeed in the classroom environment. Diversity is important and the online classroom helps meet that need.
04:09 PM on 07/15/2012
What did you learn, though? Certainly nothing that requires hands on training... which is almost everything in life.
08:14 AM on 07/17/2012
Everything in life requires the ability to learn.  Hands on training can be taught through you tube, step by step instruction, and skype.  I earned my Masters in Secondary Education.  The only criticism I had of the program was that I needed one semester of observation as well as Student Teaching.  The program suggested that, but did not require it. 
 
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09:47 AM on 07/15/2012
On-line classes are convenient for students with inflexible schedules. But they have disadvantages, too. It's much easier to cheat. And it's too tempting to blow everything off until the last minute.

My experience teaching on-line has been that this format works well only for students who are already highly-motivated, disciplined, and conscientious. In other words, for the upper 5%.
04:06 PM on 07/15/2012
"In other words, for the upper 5%."

You mean those who are now learning all by themselves in the library?

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08:43 PM on 07/14/2012
There is nothing wrong with online course. They just don't replace the classroom. They certainly don't replace supervised classroom exercises.

And of course there is a group of people who are greatly interested in suggesting that we don't need classrooms and that we can do it all remotely. It's the for profit colleges that have done this through remote studies for many decades. It's the people giving out "diplomas" at which the hiring managers will merely frown.
08:58 AM on 07/14/2012
continued from my first posting: You, Mr. Lopez need to get with the twenty first century;" times they are a changing", and change is good, and needed. We need a better way, it is obvious that the old way is not working. People have different learning styles, and the online environment is a way for society to meet the needs of those individuals who are determined, who are focused, and really want to learn, but for some reason can not work within a time frame where they have to attend a school during that schools time and schdule; people can now create and adhere to their own schedules. The online environment offers an environment where every is the expert not just the professor standing in front of the classroom. So, I challenge you Mr. Lopez, not to be narrow minded, and bigoted -you sound like a Republican. Get with the reality of it all. The world is evolving you liking it or not. At least the online environment guarantees that you can read and write. From the looks of a lot of college, and high schools graduates that's better than what they can say.
08:40 PM on 07/14/2012
It shows that you haven't been to a good university and that you don't even know what you are missing.

Of course the best kids didn't go to class. They went right into the library and they learned the advanced material in year one that the rest of us took three or four years to digest in the classroom. And then the smart kids went to a professor, showed him how much they knew and asked to be allowed to do real science... in their second year.

Guess how many smart kids there were in my class, Veronica? Two. Out of 150.

You think these smart kids need a tv screen to learn? Nope. They don't. But the 148 not so smart ones greatly profit from having a classroom with a teacher that they can ask about the things they don't understand.
08:56 AM on 07/14/2012
I just read the posting about online classrooms trash or treasure by Victor Lopez. Well, given the state of the classrooms today be them college ,High School, Middle School or elementary where students are coming to class with guns shooting other students and teachers, the giving and receiving of drugs, sexually transmitted diseases, etc.... online college sounds pretty good. You can keep your focus, learn deeply, you are not having to deal with the prejudices, and insolence of a professor, and lets not ever forget again I state, the occasional college shootings. And, as far as employers are concerned a degree is a degree, you have to sell yourself. You can graduate from a Yale, and still not know anything, look at George Bush. Its not the college that grows and learns and sells itself, its the human being that attends that university. Furthermore, how would someone know that its an online education if you do not tell them? There are so many colleges and university, and even the University of Phoenix has campuses where you can attend; most online environments do.
03:08 PM on 07/15/2012
Muddled, uninformed thinking and a conclusion that misses the point and contradicts the facts.

Sort of ironic that you'd be passing judgement on the quality of an educational strategy.
11:16 AM on 07/16/2012
That statement that you made is contrary to my point, which is that education is never a waste, and it is important that every learning modality is included, and in the online environment every learning modality is included , brick and mortars are not capable of including every learning modality they only lecture, and that is proven not to be effective. Most students are not auditory they are tactile, and kinesthetic.( Look it up).