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Big History

Posted: 04/14/11 12:58 PM ET

I just finished watching 48 half-hour lectures of the Teaching Company Great Courses series "Big History," a new historical discipline, with San Diego State professor David Christian. Excellent. Highly recommended. It starts with the big bang 13.7 billion years ago and ends with heat death a gazillion years in the future. In between he discusses the origin of galaxies, stars, planets, life, humanity, and human societies. In the grand scheme of things, the last looks unimportant indeed, but because we are humans it requires some attention.

Interestingly, Christian talks little about science or religion, although they lurk in the background. Life (not mentioned until lecture 12) is characterized as complex systems able to extract energy from the environment. Because of photosynthesis, plants do not have to move but animals do, so they had to get smarter. Humans are characterized as animals that developed collective learning.

For 100,000 year humans were foragers, but were better at it than other animals because of collective learning and so populations grew slowly but steadily. 10,000 years ago they discovered agriculture, which made for faster growth. Agrarian civilizations were characterized by over 90 percent peasants working the land supporting rulers of tribute-taking states, who just took what they wanted and gave little in return. This discouraged innovation so progress was still slow. Malthusian cycles of plenty and scarcity caused populations to oscillate, but they still increased on average.

Then 300 years ago capitalism encouraged innovation and things took off with the industrial revolution. Most governments were still in the tribute-taking mode of thinking, which regarded resources as finite and something they had to fight for to get their share. This led to the era of imperialism that did not end until WWII.

Earlier in the 20th century, however, people like Henry Ford realized that, at that time at least, scarcity was not the problem and, in fact, we had surpluses. More people were needed to buy all the stuff that the economy could produce. So wages were increased and for the first time the majority of people in the developed states could live above subsistence level. Communism crumbled because of lack of incentives for innovation in a state-controlled economy and capitalism won the day. But capitalism depends on unlimited resources, and unless we move to other planets, which I regard as unlikely, it may crumble too in the face of Earth's finite resources.

Although Christian talks about globalization, he does not get into today's politics. That's "little history." However, if I might add my own observation, the current attempts by big-money capitalists in America and elsewhere to reduce wages and stifle unions would seem to result in fewer markets for their goods. However, by shipping jobs overseas they see the global market expanding and more than taking up the slack of lower American consumption with far lower wages to pay.

What about the future? Christian posits two scenarios: (1) Bad. We keep growing and kill ourselves off by nuclear wars or destroying the environment, or both. (2) Good. Population levels off and we control weapons and pollution. Some signs are promising. Birth rates are lowering even in poor nations, as people move from peasantry to wage earning where fewer children are needed. Alternate energies and energy efficiencies are growing. The downside is the huge, foolish effort to undermine the scientific consensus on anthropogenic climate change. It should be clear to everyone that Earth does not have the resources to continue the exponential growth of the past century. How can anyone think that pumping carbon into the atmosphere that took hundred of millions of years to accumulate is harmless? Malthus will appear again. Unless Jesus returns first, as many Americans seem to think will happen.

 
 
 
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eaarth2
“An era ends when its illusions are exhausted
05:54 AM on 04/22/2011
To sustain the kind of economic growth we 'need' to have a strong economy, one based on 'stuff' and consumption, we need ever more energy. The fastest way to produce products for a consumer based unsustainable condition is through the use of fossil fuels, which are cheap.

this mean- if we go on in a business as usual direction, we will cause catastrophic climate change in not 10-20 thousand yeas as in the past, when warming by carbon took place via 'natural tectonic means' but this time through our digging up of fossil fuels, and burning them- 100 years- what a way for a civilization to go- in one huge and quick implosion.
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Shawn de Montaigne
http://thepiertoforever.webs.com
12:56 AM on 04/17/2011
Mr. Stenger says lots, but nothing of import ever seems to appear.
01:09 PM on 04/16/2011
i recommend the Ray Kurzweil documentary Transcendent Man.

on exponential growth: "If you can get to 1%, you're nearly done."
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JScott
John Galt's last name is McGuffin-Smithee
10:55 AM on 04/15/2011
Of course the GOP and evangelfundies would NEVER be attending these lectures.
(And probably Ayn Rand wouldn't either unless of course SHE would be the lecturer)
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JScott
John Galt's last name is McGuffin-Smithee
10:53 AM on 04/15/2011
Most governments were still in the tribute-taking mode of thinking, which regarded resources as finite and something they had to fight for to get their share. This led to the era of imperialism that did not end until WWII.

I think it still exists today, isn't that something that's going on in Libya or North Korea or in other parts of the planet-the tribute taking in some for or other.
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Yaxchibonam
Learn a second language.
11:02 PM on 04/14/2011
I've been reading Timothy Egan's book "The Worst Hard Time" about the environmental disaster of the Dust Bowl and the people who stayed. It got me interested in learning more about the Oklahoma Panhandle.

I am 64, and part of my education was reading Grapes of Wrath. I was never taught the much more interesting and tragic story of the events leading up to the Dust Bowl -- the U.S. Government-ordered slaughter of the buffalo to starve out the Comanches, the plowing up of 33 MILLION ACRES of native grasslands that had adapted over 20 thousand years to the southern plains, the planting of wheat, and the almost immediate plunge of wheat futures in the depression coupled with drought, and the deadly storms that stripped off the topsoil and blew it as far away as 300 miles off the East Coast. Ships came into port covered in dirt from Oklahoma and Texas.

In my research I am interested in finding out "what was learned" by the people who still live there, who by all accounts should be the most militant environmentalists in the United States. But what I found reminded me that environmental idiocy wasn't the only thinking problem on the Panhandle. I found this quote, written in 1936 during the thick of the Dust Bowl, on a website about the Oklahoma Panhandle:

"The type of population in the panhandle are responsible for its high rank in many respects. There are practically no Negroes and very few Indians. "
04:02 PM on 04/14/2011
I remember a recent episode of futurama where Farnsworth invent a time machine that goes forward only.

*Spoiler* They get lost and begin wandering forward in time to see if someone invent a time machine to get it back. They visit various dystopian and utopian futures while a parody of the song In the year 2525 by Zager & Evans.

Turns out that the universe after the heat death and the decaying of the last proton reboot itself and everything happen again in exactly the same way.

It was really funny.
01:22 PM on 04/15/2011
They stole the idea from Asimov. Read the Last Question by Isaac Asimov:
http://www.multivax.com/last_question.html
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bccmeteorites
Don't believe everything NASA says.
03:52 PM on 04/14/2011
"This led to the era of imperialism that did not end until WWII."

Stay with physics because history is not your strong suite. Imperialism simply morphed into a cacophony of tools like smoke and mirrors, aid to countries and military invasions to upend economic resources under the guise of human rights.
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Victor Stenger
Physicist, bestselling author. New book: God and t
08:27 PM on 04/14/2011
Just going by the course. Take it up with David Christian. Details are not important in Big History.
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waldopepper
I'd tell you all about me if you were my friend.
02:05 AM on 04/15/2011
"Details are not important in Big History. "

Rarely have I read something that is so simultaneously sweeping and breathtakingly short sighted as this.

I am moved to make my own sweeping shortsighted comment. Whatever "big history" is - if details are unimportant then the concept and practice of big history is worthless.

P.S. I was about to make the same comment on Imperialism but bccmeteorites beat me to it by about ten hours.
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bccmeteorites
Don't believe everything NASA says.
07:29 AM on 04/17/2011
^ Kinzer, Stephen, Overthrow: America's Century of Regime Change from Hawaii to Iraq (Henry Holt and Company 2006).
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LloydDrako
01:21 PM on 04/16/2011
Yes, "Big History" often gets the details wrong. But "imperialism" after 1945 became the ideology that dare not speak its name, what with two professedly anti-iperialist superpowers and a third world born out of the repudiation of old-style territorial empire-building. I take it that's what Christian means.
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Mississippi Red
Stoke City: ugly football that works
03:03 PM on 04/14/2011
Neato stuff. Would like to take a course or two from that company if I ever get the time...
nothingchanges
too soon old, too late smart
02:49 PM on 04/14/2011
I think most of us (if honest) would be hard pressed to point to one decision that humanity in general has made that has been based on rational intelligent thought.

Most decisions are made based on money. Which is remarkable when you consider that the IQ of the average dollar bill is about as close to zero as can be measured.

I personally have come to believe that it is impossible to underestimate the power of human stupidity. Humans will eventually destroy themselves. Unfortunately, they will probably destroy all other life on earth in the process. Destruction is what we do best, we're good at it.
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jimboy71
Hen Diapheron Heautoi
04:32 PM on 04/14/2011
Money isn't. The paper stands in for an idea. Nothing more, nothing less. It is, in many ways, less than zero.
03:38 PM on 04/15/2011
The problem with your thinking is that humanity does not make decisions in a general way.  Different groups of humans act differently, and some are rational, while some are not.  In the end, I think we won't destroy all life.  Rational people will prevail and survive because that's how evolution works.
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darquelourd
You Get What You Play For
02:37 PM on 04/14/2011
I'm hoping they will dismantle government so that if something really BIG happens like the nuclear disaster in Japan we'll all just stand there pointing fingers at each other over who is responsible until we die from radiation exposure.
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beverlyg
01:56 PM on 04/14/2011
What science has taught us about the origin of the earth and mankind makes it clear that the Bible and the Koran are fictitious lore produced for good purposes but causative of much of the destructiveness of mankind. How is it that we read about science's revelations everyday while permitting religion to continue to dominate our relations among nations with all the wars it will yet produce? We can still worship our Creator but he or whatever it is has chosen to remain unidentifiable.
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LloydDrako
01:25 PM on 04/16/2011
Were the Bible and the Koran even "produced for good purposes?" The Bible as it now stands is the product of internal power-struggles in the early Church in which the losers were subject to excommunication and worse, and the Koran as it now stands is an extensive rant of some poetic beauty and obscure provenance, considered authoritative because it says it is authoritative. Their very origins are inseparable from the harm done in their name.
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spottery2k
01:34 PM on 04/14/2011
I actually finished the series myself a few weeks ago. It should be noted that Christians approach to the examination of over 13 billion years of history needs clarification. In order to squeeze all of that into 48 lectures you have to consider scales of time and distance. He actually spends the first couple of lectures discussing that in particular. I find that the best way to get a handle on the vast scales of time and space was actually summed by Carl Sagan in his Cosmos (originally published in his Dragons of Eden). In it he compresses all of existence into a single calendar year with the Big Bang occurring 12am on January 1st and the present 11:59pm December 31st. Humans don't appear until somewhere around 11:54pm December 31st. Christian or course doesn't wait until the final few minutes of the last lecture to discuss human civilization, but he does clarify the scales needed in order to sift the wheat from the chafe in the study of history.
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yogfthagen
01:14 PM on 04/14/2011
Complicated systems tend to be more efficient. However, more complicated systems ALSO tend to be mroe fragile to change. The cost of that efficiency is a smaller margin of error in how things work. Specialist labor (what most people do) depends inherently on OTHER specialists providing them the materials they need, and in consuming the product of their labor.
Take away any link in the chain, and things get dicey.
We live in the most complicated system humans have ever had. If things change badly ebnough (environmental pollution, running short of vital resources, global warming, a massive natural or financial disaster), will our system have the resiliency to adjust?
I just don't know. And I fear how bad a "population correction" might be.