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Zephaniah 1:7, 12-18: The Great Day of the Lord Is Near

Posted: 11/09/11 02:10 PM ET

This poem features extravagant language about a coming time of loss, disaster, distress and suffering. It is commonly dated to the time before Jerusalem was destroyed by the invading Babylonian empire. While the daring poets whom we call "prophets" could discern the coming danger to the city, most of their contemporaries, ensconced in ideologies of self-regard, did not notice the danger. They simply assumed that as God's chosen people, all would be well. That situation sounds very much like our own. The most discerning among us, often given to poetic extravagance, can see the coming trouble, if not from environmental abuse then from unsustainable economic self-indulgence. At the same time many folk, trusting in old assurances of well-being, assume all will be as it was. They are simply impervious to the real threats that poetic discernment articulates.

It is no wonder in such a circumstance of wholesale denial, that the poet must resort to vigorous, hyperbolic (?), searing rhetoric. This rhetoric is not prediction. It is rather an extremity of emotive speech designed to penetrate denial with the hope of evoking response that takes seriously the non-negotiable holy purposes of God.

The first person utterance of God, given us by the poet, portrays an attentive holiness that is offended by the obdurate self-indulgence of the populace. Indeed, that obdurate populace has banished God from its life. That does not mean they have given up on religious talk and religious gesture. Rather they have decided, in quite practical ways, that God is no real agent in the life of the world. The old superstitions about God have been rejected and God, while worshipped, is seen as an irrelevant. God cannot do good and cannot do evil, does not punish and does not reward, and so can be safely disregarded.

In our time we, like those ancients, have found God to be an irrelevance to the life of the world. The so-called "new atheists" only bring to speech what is commonly unspoken but tacitly accepted. In a world of Enlightenment rationality where human knowledge is transposed into ultimate control, God is surely an irrelevance. Consequently we are free to do what we want and must do what we can to secure ourselves.

And then the poet moves against such a conclusion, against ancient practicality and against modern rationality. The prophetic claim is a rhetorical one. The offer is a poetic one. The effort is to imagine alternatively, to conjure a world that is not itself ultimate, but that finally must give account of itself. Such a claim given in cold logic is not easy to make. But such a claim, given in shrill poetry, invites us to imagine that soon or late we must give answer for obdurate self-regard.

The poetic response to the elimination of God as a real player in the world is that God will have "a day." God will have a time of intrusive self-assertion. There is among us a lot of craziness about such a time in biblical interpretation, and we get ludicrous time-tables and speculative imagery. But this poetry is none of that. It is simply an insistence that answering for life in the world is ultimately inescapable, because the world is not self-contained. It is finally at the behest of a mystery beyond us that we cannot control or manage. The poet, moreover, knows the name of that mystery who has been known in the long memory of Israel, who does not now propose to be absent from the public process of world history.

As a result we get poetry that pounds at our ears: "the day, that day, a day, day, day day...!" There is a time, surely to come, when life bursts out beyond our control and our management in ways that threaten and undo us. It was not difficult for that old poet to imagine such at time in the future of Jerusalem when the holy city would be under savage assault; it surely felt in prospect like the end of the world! Mutatis mutandis, it is not difficult to utter such poetry of extremity in our time in the wake of 9/11, in the midst of the environmental crisis, when the economy is in free fall, and when the world as we have known it evaporates before our very eyes. The poet wants his listeners to sense at some deep emotive level that the future of the world is beyond our confident control. There will be ample time later to talk about the good future that God will give beyond the disaster, as in 3:16-20. But not now! Now there is only time for candor about the free fall in which the faithful affirm that the Holy One is present, albeit only in poetic imagination.

What a time is coming on our obdurate society! What a season it will be when our control turns feeble. What a day it will be when we see the limit and failure of our anxious knowledge and our technology and our hardware and our imagination. It will be a time that feels like a cosmic assault. It will be a time that sounds like death and darkness and gloom and wrath and distress. (The reader may add other terms that come to mind, as long as they are uncompromisingly negative!) One does not need to be superstitious or primitive or even religious to imagine that we face "A Day of Reckoning." The economic issue that runs from Greece directly to my pension plan is a drama that arises from obdurate self-indulgence on the part of some. As the old poet would have anticipated, we learn that there is no way to outflank that Day or secure a "pass" on it. The poet could perchance "foresee" what even we must now face.

The Mystery will -- soon or late -- envelop our self-confident control that has been greedy and self-serving. And comes then the uneasy, unsettling awareness that our tools for control are futile in the big picture, no help from money, no help from knowledge and no help from arms -- no help! No help at all!

Of course such hyperbolic rhetoric might be wrong. Maybe our control will prevail. Maybe our mastery will continue to perpetuity. Maybe all will be well and all manner of things will be well. Maybe we will dwell in perpetual shalom. Maybe. But we may doubt that as the poet doubts that. And you, dear reader, may doubt with the poet. We do not know the day or the hour; of course not. We only know that we are called to sober awareness. The hidden mystery of life is well beyond our little systems and will not be mocked.

Our little systems have their day,
They have their day and cease to be.
They are but broken lights of thee,
And thou, O Lord, art more than they.

--Tennyson

Editor's Note: ON Scripture is a series of Christian scripture commentaries produced in collaboration with Odyssey Networks. Each week pastors from around the country will approach the lectionary text of the week through the lens of current events, providing a religious voice that is both pastoral and prophetic.

 
 
 
This poem features extravagant language about a coming time of loss, disaster, distress and suffering. It is commonly dated to the time before Jerusalem was destroyed by the invading Babylonian empire...
This poem features extravagant language about a coming time of loss, disaster, distress and suffering. It is commonly dated to the time before Jerusalem was destroyed by the invading Babylonian empire...
 
 
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Claude Hosch
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03:55 PM on 11/23/2011
Really enjoyed that. We should know there will be a reckoning; everything has its natural consequence.
06:06 AM on 11/15/2011
Enjoyed this article; read it from the bottom up and was intrigued by the weavings of thought through your explanation. Tennyson's poem at the end was short and perfect. Our little systems have had their day. This, I believe is very true.

Worldwide governmental systems, inefficient at best, dangerous at worst. Even most religious systems, bickering, squabbling masses, taking it upon themselves to be spokesmen for God, not by an honest, unbiased understanding and explaining scripture, which is their only job, but by their deep involvement with politics and governments. Some even thinking themselves God's executioner of justice. (John 16:2- "the hour is coming when everyone that kills you will imagine he has rendered a sacred service to God").

And the economic systems- greed, corruption and mismanagement, bringing forth the swarms of humanity who have taken a stand and have said enough. All these systems doomed to failure. Also, as you brought out, God's day is near and there is a hurrying very much to it. Zephaniah 1:12-many saying God is impotent and won't do good or bad. Many quickly dismissing Him, jumping on the bandwagon of higher critics, sneering at God's word, putting there own intellect and power, scanty as it is, above the One who is all knowing. Yes, the day, the day, the day, as you say. Or-- enough, enough, enough. God's day is here. Prophecy has dual fulfillment. People don't want to think of judgement, but if they don't they get swept into it unawares.
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erehwon man
don't drink the holy water!
11:47 PM on 11/15/2011
For crying out loud the world has been ending for 2,000 years already. Empires come
and empires go, and ours will be included. But it won't have anything to do with God,
who by the way has gone missing for quite some time now. We should all spend more
time caring for each other, and not worry about some Celestial Dictator.
09:20 AM on 11/16/2011
Keep telling yourself that and you may just start to believe it. Yes the end has been talked about since the time of the apostles. And the Jewish system was ended as prophecy said. In 70 C.E. the Roman army marched back into Jerusalem and razed the city. Nothing was left of the great temple, except the "wailing wall", which was a retaining wall and not part of the actual temple itself. True to prophecy --Matthew 24:1,2.

The Christians who left after the first invasion were the ones who were spared. These had recognized the signs Christ gave them and acted upon it.(Matthew 24:15-22). That was a great tribulation that occurred to that people, but the greatest (in size and scope) tribulation is the one we are on the brink of. In our day, it is not just an empire that will be affected, but the entire inhabited earth.

Because of the inventions of man, the communication is at an unprescendented level. 3G is not good enough and neither is 4G, we have 4S and more coming. We are aware of things practically as they happen now. The world economy is intricately, delicately connected and like a house of cards, can fall and destroy the whole structure. The eco system is being destroyed, resulting in the balance of things being thrown off course. Earhquakes, floods, hurricanes etc. are the results of mankind's devastation of the planet.
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06:26 PM on 11/14/2011
“ The economic issue that runs Greece directly to my pension plan is a drama that arises from obdurate self-indulgence on the part of some.â€

Dear Mr. Brueggeman, your above stated categorical statement, relating Greece to your and other people’s money “drama†problems, requires at least a clear explanation from you.

Because, using out of ages long historical habit, Greece and Greeks as “Agricola –agreeco†scape goats, has no place on today’s matter of fact instant internet reality.

I know for sure that, the Greek civilization is the only one whose esoteric process, brought scientific meaning to the divine and thus “palpability†to man’s divine potential.

In the reality of life, even “pension plan†pocketbook contents, are best used to bring forth the “actuality†of one’s own everlasting Blooming.
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larry cifuentes
03:47 PM on 11/15/2011
“ The economic issue that runs Greece directly to my pension plan is a drama that arises from obdurate self-indulgence on the part of some.â€

Dear Mr. Brueggeman, your above stated categorical statement, relating Greece to your and other people’s money “drama†problems, requires at least a clear explanation from you.

Because, using out of long ages historical habit, Greece and Greeks as “Agricola –agreeco†scape goats, has no place on today’s matter of fact instant internet reality.

I know for sure that, the Greek civilization is the only one whose esoteric process, brought scientific meaning to the divine and thus “palpability†to man’s divine potential.

In the reality of life, even “pension plan†pocketbook contents, are best used to bring forth the “actuality†of one’s own everlasting Blooming.
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05:57 PM on 11/14/2011
I like what professor Walter Brueggemann said about "poetic hyperbole" employed by the Hebrew prophets but perhaps he soft-peddle a bit concerning its immediate source. I don't think he actually named it. Nor did he distinguish this source from other kinds, like ecstatic utterances used by shaman, channelors and mediums.It was absolutely forbidden for any Hebrew prophet to speak by such ecstatic utterance.
The Hebrew word for prophet is "Nevi" and it literally means to "spew forth" in the great sense as releasing a burden, because the prophet directly experienced the immediate emotions of God Himself, as if they were his own.
And then using the language of those who were his contemporaries expressing those emotions into words and often, in this highly exalted spiritual state, in poetic hyperbole.

But a prophet can be distinguished from a Christians believer speaking "a word of knowledge" by the Holy Spirit, because he speaks "the Word of God", and thus he would never serve as spokesman for a Christian leader or denomination, and likely would not be received by any denomination, because 50 % of the prophet's work is rebuke.
Are there prophets today?
if there were more than a half dozen on the whole earth, I would be extremely surprized, for Prophets are so exceedingly rare, they must travel.
07:43 AM on 11/14/2011
The Truth and Justice is now on the scene, why 99%? God said I Will place it in their hearts to Know Me. They will know all Truths, there will be no doubt, all will know it is I. The awakening enlightenment is unfolding, lies are slowly being exposed. This is a time to rejoice not be scared. The 99% have been suffering all what was written in the book of revelations for over 2,000 years now, all that was revealed have we not? Famine? homelessness? poverty? illness? diseases? earthquakes, wars, rumors of wars, massive flooding have always been it will get worse but at the same Truth justice is on the scene. In the Spiritual battle now good against evil, evil knows its time is coming to an end. Why what we are hearing and seeing, good is now called evil and evil is now called good. Wants to destroy as much as possible, but does not win in the end. Love all Rejoice instead rather then fear. The poor needs not no shelter to build, but the rich for them there is no shelter they can ever build to protect them. Rejoice.
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peter010908
The easiest way to control people is through fear.
12:09 AM on 11/18/2011
How do you know what god said? maybe he said "screw you guys i'm outta here"
07:57 PM on 11/18/2011
Well thats an easy one. Wherever the Church is hated, God is no longer there. But thats only because the human beings left Him, God didnt do anything worng.
06:28 AM on 11/19/2011
Why add the word guys? could it also be possible that He just said screw you I;m outta here?
07:10 AM on 11/14/2011
If "The Great Day of the Lord Is Near " I would think because GOD has a time schedule and is in total control of his PLAN, and nothing and no man is able to change it. Then riddle me this. Why are those on the Right always claiming to be GOD's instrument of his will ? That if they are not elected into office, the world will spin out of control, into chaos and usher in Armageddon ? Ain't that GOD's plan, for the world to do just that ? That he will bring destruction to the Earth, and ONLY THEN, after Armageddon, GOD will create a New Heaven and a New Earth ? Jesus stated to Roman Governor Pontius Pilate " My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence." ....How can the GOP'ers be for GODS Kingdom or world, when they do everything in their power to be a part of Pilate's (Satan's) world, and keep GOD's world from arriving? You can't serve two Master's, GOP'ers ! And I whole heartedly believe that when push comes to shove, you will reject the LORD and his Kingdom and chose Pilate's (Satan's) world !
07:32 AM on 11/14/2011
Because right now Satan is in the power of this world. His time has not come to his end. God looked down upon us and took mercy upon us. He God did not have to. Because Truth they are not. Many false prophets will come in My name are we not told?. One cannot rush in Armageddon, the word Armageddon appears only once in Greek NT. Rev. 16:16 Armageddon may come from Hebrew. Armageddon means, Mountain of Meggido, Armageddon means a "place" where great battles took place before Christ, it is a place a Mountain called Meggido. How many are deceived? How? by words and what others tell one to think. By changing over time the true meaning of a word, slowly all truth gets lots, same with changing names. One needs to seek the Truth themselves and what? where?, the root of all Word spoken comes from. Like the simple word Messiah, does not mean savior at all. Messiah means anointed one, with oil. When a mission is given to someone in the OT they are named according to their mission. Why God changed the names of Abram to Abra/ham, why God also named Ishamel, Issac and changed the name of Jacob to Israel etc. Names have meanings and are important just like words do.
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erehwon man
don't drink the holy water!
11:53 PM on 11/15/2011
What were people doing before all this hogwash was written down? I suspect they
were just going on about their lives, making war, making peace, struggling to
survive. Why complicate it with things that don't make a lick of sense? There were/are a lot of cultures that have done just fine, thank you, without any of this
"knowledge".
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peter010908
The easiest way to control people is through fear.
12:14 AM on 11/18/2011
"Because right now Satan is in the power of this world"

Please... spare me, do you actually beleive in that? seriously.

If there is a god (and there isnt) then HE alone created the devil and he alone has the power to stop him. Now either he can't stop the devil or he cant be bothered to which in that case then he's just as much to blame.
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09:18 AM on 11/14/2011
TexasBlueTick, you didn't hold back in your comments about the church in America, and rightly so.
I had spent more than 30 years on the Book of Revelations before it dawned on me, it bears from one end to the other, the character of a Hebrew prophecy, that's when I began to see that the Church is NOT the sujbect of Revelations.But Israel is.
Where is the Church? She's is seen there as "The Great Harlot". only a married wife can be called a harlot in Scripture.And this woman who was married to Christ.
She has been captured by the "Northern Army" and her intent is to build a worldly kingdom, but without the King.
This could be why the doctrinally predominant Kingdom Now!/Dominionist Evangelical Christians majority have gotten into bed in an illicit "marriage" with GOP'ers. But, in doing so, they had to give up God's power and grace in exchange for secular power, and without that power they can have no worldly Kingdom. The very kingdom which Jesus Himself is coming soon to destroy!!
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10:06 AM on 11/14/2011
"I had spent more than 30 years on the Book of Revelation­s before ..."

Before you were able to project yet another (your own) wacky interpretation of it?
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11:17 AM on 11/14/2011
BTW - I'd think that if you spent 30 years studying a book ... you'd at least get the title of it right!
06:39 AM on 11/14/2011
End of times? Have we been in them for a long time a process all revealed in the Book of Revelations? Revelations: meaning the act of revealing or disclosing or something revealed especially, dramatic disclosure of something not previously known or realized (by many reading them) a discovering or revealing of Truths, secrets exposed, Enlightening. A speech act of making something evident. Astonishing disclosures, revealed. The word Amageddon appears only once in Greek NT Rev. 16:16 word, may come from Hebrew meaning Mountain in Megiddo, that is it. A Mountain where many great battles took place 2,000 years or more ago. Have we not for over 2,000 years been living out, those secret knowledge given, revealing truths, disclosures,already going through, what has been revealed over 2,000 years ago? End of Times? It has always been upon us going on now 2,000 years, it is not just starting is it, the end of times? Been in it. Revelations of good and bad in this dark world all will go through. And have been going through have we not? The end is a spiritual battle the final battle not won by man either, but by God himself. And God said I AM Victorious told the end already. Who wins. Not in our hands. Do onto others what you would want done unto you. Know he is called the Father of Lies, a great deceiver. Know in the end the great deceivers will be deceived. Love all. Rejoice Truth and Justice has arrived.
05:03 AM on 11/14/2011
According to Jesus, the events preceding his Second Coming were to happen in quick succession (Matthew 24:9) ‘immediately after the tribulation…’ (Matthew 24:3)… when ye shall see all these things know that it is near, even at the doors’), and they were all to happen while the current generation was alive (‘Verily I say unto you, this generation shall not pass, till _all_ these things be fulfilled’). Too bad he was wrong: that generation passed without seeing the prophecy’s fulfillment. The stars didn’t fall out of the sky while his listeners were still living. And they haven’t fallen out yet, 2000 years later.
06:58 AM on 11/14/2011
We are the current generation are we not? We are still living in that age, that same generation. Jesus used the word age, saying not till the end of the age. Jesus was born in the age of the Pices, used 2 fishes did He not? That is age is going to end soon. Why Jesus uses those terms, I will make you fishermen of men, used 2 fishes to feed thousands did he not? Gold coin found in the fish mouth to pay taxes. His apostles most of them were fishermen were they not? Mentions they ate fish, Jesus refers to fish all the time. Throw in your net and apostles got a abundance of fish, were before got none. Etc. This generation, this age Jesus spoke of. Between each age is how many years? 2,000 plus plus? What is the next age we are going into then? He was not wrong was Jesus not yet any way, the age of the Pices has not ended yet. Are we not still living in the generation age of Jesus? There was no bible in Abrahams or Moses time were they all looked up, did they not? At what? Why? How they all knew something was greater then themselves created all. They all knew more about the Universe then we do still today. Interesting.
09:34 AM on 11/14/2011
“We are the current generation are we not? We are still living in that age, that same generation¬.†Nonsense. Matthew10:2-5 plainly says Jesus directed his promise to "the twelve apostles, "each of them identified by name." “These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them." He offered them instructions on, among other things, how to deal with persecution. They're to run away: "When they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another." But he promises the end and the son of man will arrive before they've "gone through all the towns of Israel." It's too late for that prophesy to be fulfilled because the people it concerned -- his then-living followers -- died about two thousand years ago.
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10:48 AM on 11/14/2011
Always a way to wiggle out, and always will be no matter what the timeline or circumstance is. Bend, twist, contort until it fits. It has always been thus.
07:27 AM on 11/14/2011
You speak in ignorance. Jesus spoke " prophesy" of events to happen in his listeners immidiate future. Yes 2000 years ago, his generation did indeed suffer great tribulation when Jerusalem was destroyed by the Romans a few decades after his death, Jerusalem's inhabitants were killed, raped and survivors taken as slaves, but his listeners who remembered and heeded his warning, were able to escape destruction. His prophesy also use's this event to warn his future followers of the coming of an even greater Tribulation, that has not arrived yet but the warning signs are growing increasingly evident. Those events are to come and will not prove a lie. Those who listen and heed have the hope of surviving, those like you who chose not to, will suffer destruction.
08:13 AM on 11/14/2011
Jesus was not just speaking prophesy to those in his time, Jesus was also exposing the Truth the evil ones in His time, men who were not of God. Jesus was not just spreading prophecy, why he was crucified also by the powers of that time. Simply pondering have all not been for over 2,000 years since the time of Jesus till this very day,every moment even, still being rapped? k2lled? wars, rumors of wars, being stolen from? destruction of family break down still? Poor etc are we still not slaves by the powers over us? Who has yet to escape such things till this day? His prophesy were not just prophecy while Jesus walked the earth at that time, rather also Jesus was exposing the great deceivers to the oppressed people of his time and for all to come afterward, as a warning of truth for all, it would continue till the return of God on earth. There are still no survivors? There is nothing new upon the earth not since the beginning of time in this world which is not God's World is it? All are suffering and they are the larger in numbers no different then in Jesus time. The few control the larger in numbers still. Rejoice. If wars brought peace we would of had a whole of peace by now. Peace will only be found where Righteousness lives. Greed has destroyed more life, natural resources, then all wars put together since the beginning of time.
09:53 AM on 11/14/2011
What warning signs are “increasingly evident� The ones Jesus mentioned were the sun going black. Likewise the moon . What Paul calls the last trump would sound. The stars were to fall from the sky, etc. Jesus predicted all those things and more would happen within the lifetime of his listeners. But he was mistaken: THAT generation passed without the fulfillment of Jesus' prophesy.
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surferlaments
Help me Rhonda...
02:06 AM on 11/14/2011
as usual, you non believers all come to a story about Bibical teachings and thoughts..... and just do your little mocking and hating. i am more and more convinced, it is because of you being insecure. otherwise, why come to a story like this to spew your garbage? maybe it is just that you have to
re-assure yourselves, that there are others who think as you do.
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03:11 AM on 11/14/2011
If you want to see people trying to re-assure themselves, go visit a church.
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surferlaments
Help me Rhonda...
05:38 PM on 11/14/2011
the thing of it is, is that i do not need a church to re-assure myself. i do not need religion to re-assure myself. so now, at least you know that about me.
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AntithiChrist
Rhymes with Grist
03:29 AM on 11/14/2011
Tired of people laughing at your beliefs?

Stop having such silly beliefs.
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surferlaments
Help me Rhonda...
05:32 PM on 11/14/2011
i am not tired of people laughing at my beliefs. what do i care what they do? i don't. i am more so laughing at your non belief.
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PrairieGayCompanion
Everything red will be blue again.
12:53 AM on 11/14/2011
♪♪ here he comes from heaven ♪♪
♪♪ here he comes, parting the clouds above ♪♪
♪♪ oh, here comes the lord ♪♪
♪♪ toot your birdie horns ♪♪
♪♪ then upon his finger perch ♪♪
♪♪ he may come here to stay just to watch us pray in his favorite church ♪♪

Just as I've picture him -
http://video.adultswim.com/promos/moral-orel-here-he-comes.html
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02:14 AM on 11/14/2011
lol
hey PGC, nice ta see ya, as they say old friend,
my first glance at the link was Oral, ahem, as in Oral Roberts, till I clicked on it
what brings ya over to the cesspool side, I did see that this article made the main page under religion
Harold Camping is no longer around to pick on, the Republican Presidential candidates seem to be ready to fill the vacancy
:-)
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PrairieGayCompanion
Everything red will be blue again.
07:47 AM on 11/14/2011
Hi, P3! Good to see ya.
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raoulhubris
Subvert the dominant paradigm!
12:35 AM on 11/14/2011
Slouching toward Bethlehem.
10:58 PM on 11/13/2011
Ugh. The faithful have been waiting for the end of the world for 2000 years now. It hasn't happened yet, and will probably happen at the hands of mankind himself! We have been very terrible to each other and the planet. I'm not waiting for Jesus to return in the eastern skies to judge all. I'm waiting for mankind to grow up!!!
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surferlaments
Help me Rhonda...
01:59 AM on 11/14/2011
you would be better off waiting and preparing for Jesus to return. mankind will never grow up as you put it. but, Jesus will eventually judge us all. indeed.
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123dee
Forward America - Obama 2012
03:55 AM on 11/14/2011
preparing? is that the same as living your daily life in accordance
to the character traits and attitude Jesus taught. Love, kindness,
tolerance, honesty, patience, compassion, empathy etc.?
06:15 AM on 11/19/2011
what makes you think mankind will "grow up" people like you have been waiting for this much much longer than 2000 years and I hate to say this, but it hasn't happened yet!
10:03 PM on 11/13/2011
So many realities in one world.
09:41 PM on 11/13/2011
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notdarkyet
End the Drug War.
09:22 PM on 11/13/2011
Our world will end, maybe in a couple hundred years. The planet won't end, just us. And not because of god but because of our greed to consume more than we need, having little regard for forests, or water, animals, fish or trees, and our pursuit of materialistic crap that matters not a whit and building weapons that rival the destruction of any imagined Vishnu. Then the earth will spend a couple million years cleansing itself of any trace of our egotistic efforts to ensure that we leave something permanent behind,and start again. In the end the dinosaurs with pea size brains will have lives millions of years longer than we did. And the planet will go on and on and on...
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Sunwyn Ravenwood
Farewell my friends, time to go...
09:38 PM on 11/13/2011
Not to be picky, but Vishnu is the Preserver God, Shiva is the Lord of Destruction.

Robert Oppenheimer after the first nuclear explosion, quoting Shiva, "I am become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds..."

Shiva is Lord of the Dance and when the Dance ends...so do we.
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notdarkyet
End the Drug War.
09:59 PM on 11/13/2011
Okay, got them mixed up. Ty.
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10:00 PM on 11/13/2011
Vishnu, in Hindu thought as a metaphysical avatar (philosophical personification) for all reality, it literally everything.
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If we don't stand up for us who will?
09:38 PM on 11/13/2011
Gee, not much hope for humanity in this post. I choose to be a bit more optimistic in that I see mankind as learning before it is to late.