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Time for the Southern Baptist Convention to Apologize to Gay People

Posted: 06/14/11 11:12 PM ET

This week, I will be standing out in 107-degree heat delivering a petition with 10,000 signatures to the Southern Baptist Convention asking the group to apologize for its treatment of LGBT people. The Association of Welcoming and Affirming Baptists, Believe OutLoud, Faith in America, GetEqual, and Soulforce will join my organization, Truth Wins Out, in this action.

Some skeptics ask -- why waste time appealing to this hostile and intransigent group that has no intention of apologizing?

The first reason is to reach LGBT youth who are growing up in Southern Baptist homes. Some of these young men and women have tumultuous experiences like Ben Alley. According to the Des Moines Register:

Ben Alley misses his parents. He's 18 and just graduated from East Marshall High School in Le Grand, with scholarships to almost cover his costs at the University of Iowa. It's a time for open houses and pride. But he won't be getting that from his once-close family -- the Southern Baptist minister father and the mother who home-schooled him early on.

They're not dead; he's dead to them. In his sophomore year, Ben informed his parents that he is gay. They informed him he wouldn't be coming home after school the next day -- or ever again.


The second reason we are asking for an apology is because it's aspirational and serves as a map of what the SBC must do to stop the harm it is perpetrating against LGBT people. Clearly, the SBC will not change positions overnight, but the first step to an apology is asking -- and that is what we are doing.

Third, it is critical that we hold the SBC accountable for supporting morally bankrupt and scientifically unsound "ex-gay" programs.

"The anti-gay teachings of the Southern Baptist church nearly led me to suicide," said Dr. Jerry Stephenson, a former Southern Baptist minister and board member for Truth Wins Out. "I entered an 'ex-gay' ministry that falsely claimed I could change my sexual orientation and this led to a deep depression. Only after I accepted my true self was I able to reconcile my faith and sexual orientation."

Finally, the SBC likes to portray its position on homosexuality as an unchangeable moral absolute. The facts, however, show that the SBC has changed its positions on minorities before.

Indeed, June 15th marks the 16-year anniversary of the Southern Baptist Convention's historic apology to African Americans for the denomination's support of slavery and segregation. Sadly, it took the SBC 150 years to finally acknowledge the tremendous suffering, death, and devastation caused by their misreading of Scripture. We'll never know how much better the world might be had this apology occurred in 1895 instead of 1995.

Describing the apology proclamation, the SBC's Richard Land said:

Well, it says that slavery played a role in the formation of the convention and that too often we had not acted to promote racial equality, and we apologize for that. We lament that. We grieve over that and we repent of it and we ask for the forgiveness of our African-American brothers and sisters.


Given the arc of justice and the trajectory of history, there is no doubt the SBC will offer a full-fledged apology to the LGBT community in the future. However, this will take time -- considering the SBC did not apologize for the sin of racism until 1989 (they apologized for slavery in 1995).

For those who think an apology is a pipe dream, just remember that it was only 1958 when the late Baptist minister and segregationist Rev. Jerry Falwell preached in a sermon, "The true Negro does not want integration. He realizes his potential is far better among his own race."

Within years of making this despicable statement, Falwell saw the light and reversed course. Fortunately, times change and old prejudices wither on history's vine. George Wallace, who for most of his career was the face of segregation, renounced and apologized for his previous views. In our day, prominent political figures as diverse as Bill Clinton, Laura Bush, Ken Mehlman, and Cindy McCain have gone from opposing marriage equality to publicly supporting it.

The big story from the SBC's annual meeting is the election of Fred Luter Jr. as the denomination's first African-American vice president. This would have been as inconceivable only a generation ago. Clearly, it is only a matter of time before a gay man or woman also leads the Southern Baptist Convention.

Each year, polls show more people support LGBT equality than ever. If the SBC does not change with the times, membership will decline and the denomination will wither as the majority of Americans come to view the SBC's views as immoral and fringe. Two words, "I'm sorry," would show that the SBC was ready to leave its spotty past behind and truly enter the 21st century.

 

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01:07 PM on 06/28/2011
Jesus, the teachings of whom the Southern Baptist Convention purports to believe and base its own tenets upon, never said anything about homosexuality. Paul carried that torch, not Christ. So much of today's Christianity, its beliefs and morals systems, are based upon Paul's writings, not the words written in red. So, instead of calling themselves Christians, they should be calling themselves Paulines. (sidesteps joke about being called a girl's name)
11:11 AM on 06/21/2011
Besen loves to portray himself as the prophet of truth here, proclaming "the truth will out" and "the facts are..."

But the important, relevant facts are the facts that Besen does NOT want to to hear: the facts are that gays are NOT just another 'minority', they are an inhomogeneous group of people that are 'united' in a group only by opposition to Christian morality. As such the only 'right' the church should feel compelled to grant them is the right to repent.
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r henry
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05:28 PM on 06/23/2011
I am not in opposition of anything Christian and neither is any other homosexual, especially it's supposed "morality". Christian morality stands in opposition to me living my life peacefully and without interference from those who my life has zero effect on. I don't think the SBC owes me anything for the simple fact that I simply don't care what they or any other Christian has to say about my life and the way I live.

We have nothing to repent for because we have done nothing wrong. I speak of who I am for the sake of those who think they are alone. Not to change your mind or any other Christian. I care about the other gay people out there who think they are evil because of the things they've been told by the church. I am here to tell them they are not, in spite of what you say. I'd rather live my life in "opposition" to your institutions (it's ridiculous that they should feel that my simply being alive and seeking happiness is such an offense to them, BTW) than to live it in the closet, bathed in darkness, secrecy and misery. That's all that is accomplished by this.
06:44 PM on 06/15/2011
And this consequence is a 'bad' thing? Why again?

"If the SBC does not change with the times, membership will decline and the denomination will wither as the majority of Americans come to view the SBC's views as immoral and fringe."
05:47 PM on 06/15/2011
The least Christian people in the USA usually call themselves Christians. They clearly think His teachings were wrong.
11:26 PM on 06/15/2011
Not really. They just all think they're prophets. They always know what God is thinking. They always interpret his message in only the way they can. And God never disagrees with them.

Oh screw "prophet". They think they are God.
02:06 PM on 06/16/2011
Now, now. Remember, we are called to LOVE the Christian but hate the "Christianity".
08:22 PM on 06/17/2011
I've been trying to think of a way to answer, but I mustt admit i have nothin, nothin. I want to laugh, I want to take offense. I salute you.
08:23 PM on 06/17/2011
I forgot to say in the last post, I am a Christian, but , sorry to say, I seem to be in a very small minority who thinks we should follow Christ.
05:44 PM on 06/15/2011
Look how long it took for Christians to stop defending slavery because it was/is accepted and encouraged by the Bible. The ideas and teachings of Christ are still a hard sell to most Christians. They prefer the voices of hate that are so plentiful in the rest of the Bible.
MrStat1
I believe in the rule of law
05:12 PM on 06/15/2011
People should not have to apologize for their deeply held beliefs.
05:38 PM on 06/15/2011
No, just for their actions.
11:27 PM on 06/15/2011
If you deeply held the belief that someone is inferior to you simply for a trait they were born with, then I don't think you should have to apologize. I think you should never open your mouth around me.
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LMPE
I connect the most dissimilar things
03:30 PM on 06/15/2011
I think that it'll be harder than you think that convince these people to think rationally.
05:45 PM on 06/15/2011
Rational thought has nothing to do with belief.
03:16 PM on 06/15/2011
Interesting observation: Some people of color hate it when people compare being gay and being black. But NO black kid EVER got kicked out of his home for BEING black. That SBC haters who call themselves "pastors" continue to kick their gay children out of the home speaks VOLUMES about their ACTUAL values (not the ones they tout publicly).

Frankly though, I would not hold my breath waiting for an apology. Tey ARE doin' it fer Jeezus after all.
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chadizzy
02:50 PM on 06/15/2011
Everyone has their right to believe what they want. So sick of everyone being offended. Who cares move on. Worry about your life and not what others think of your life. Time to grow up!
03:20 PM on 06/15/2011
It isn't a matter of "being offended". It is a matter of JUSTICE v. injustice. It is a matter of INCLUSION (what Jesus taught) rather than exclusion. It is a matter of LOVE v. hate.

Grow up yourself.
05:39 PM on 06/15/2011
Belief is your right, taking away the rights of others because of your beliefs is not.
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chadizzy
05:49 PM on 06/15/2011
Explain to me how this church took anyones rights away?
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01:51 PM on 06/15/2011
The last time I checked, we as a country didn't have an "approved", "acknowledged" National Religion. America was not founded on Christianity, no matter how much Christians would like to think differently.

As proof, I offer the 1797 Treaty of Tripoli, written in 1796 by Joel Barlow, an American diplomat. Article 11 of the Treaty clearly states:

"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Musselmen; and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."

Barlow forwarded the treaty to U.S. legislators for approval in 1797. Timothy Pickering, the secretary of state, endorsed it and John Adams concurred (now during his presidency), sending the document on to the Senate. The Senate approved the treaty on June 7, 1797, and officially ratified by the Senate with John Adams signature on 10 June, 1797. All during this multi-review process, the wording of Article 11 never raised the slightest concern. The treaty even became public through its publication in The Philadelphia Gazette on 17 June 1797.
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02:21 PM on 06/15/2011
And yet for some reason people still feel that they're taking the high ground when basing their right to discriminate against homosexuals based on what it says in the Bible. Sorry, but as I just pointed out, Christianity is not the national religion, as intended by the Founding Fathers, and therefore is not a valid basis for discriminating against a group of people.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

Seems to me that the Founding Fathers thought EVERYONE was entitled to the same rights......
03:21 PM on 06/15/2011
"And yet for some reason people still feel that they're taking the high ground when basing their right to discrimina­te against homosexual­s based on what it says in the Bible."

Actually, it's based on what they THINK it "says in the Bible" (which is often the same thing as what they've been TOLD it says in the Bible). And they're wrong.
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Seven Teenatheart
Tolerance, peace, and sanity. Be your own person.
10:44 PM on 06/15/2011
Agreed.
And the founding fathers were not necessarily all Christian.
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/farrell_till/myth.html
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drjay79
09:17 AM on 06/15/2011
I suspect it will take them another 150 yrs before you get this apology.
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NWBrunette
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10:44 AM on 06/15/2011
All the more reason to get started now.
08:41 AM on 06/15/2011
The fact is, adultery is mentioned specifically in the 10 commandments, Laws handed down by God.
Jesus himself spoke out about divorce, saying that if a man divorces his wife and remarries he is committing adultry (Breaking one of God's Commandments) against his first wife.

And yet, gays are really only mentioned by St. Paul. Hardly equivilent to God and Jesus, and yet the SBC isn't advocating to outlaw divorce or adultry.

So their lie that their views are Bible based is just that, a lie that is an excuse for their bigotry. If the Bible was truly the foundation for their beliefs, then anybody divorced would be a much larger target for them than gays. But hypocrites don't want to attack any sin that THEY themselves may need to commit.
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10:36 AM on 06/15/2011
In the words of Lynn Lavner"

"There are 6 admonishments in the Bible concerning homosexual activity and our enemies are always throwing them up to us usually in a vicious way and very much out of context. What they don't want us to remember is that there are 362 admonishments in the Bible concerning heterosexual activity. I don't mean to imply by this that God doesn't love straight people, only that they seem to require a great deal more supervision."
03:22 PM on 06/15/2011
"yet the SBC isn't advocating to outlaw divorce or adultry"

It's called SELECTIVE fundaMENTALism.
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talkstocoyotes
08:27 AM on 06/15/2011
Mr. Besen is quite correct that churches which were blatantly pro-segregation at the beginning of the 20th century's civil rights era "changed" their minds as soon as that became socially unacceptable and started to negatively affect the churches' public images. Religious conservatives are fond of claiming that their religion "isn't a popularity contest" but in fact for any group that emphasizes conversion, it's exactly that and in Western culture that translates into a tacit attention to PR.

Cynical as it sounds those churches, including the SBC, will do the same with their attitudes toward non-heterosexual sexuality at whatever point that not doing so becomes embarrassing and causes a loss of attendance and income. In the meantime, I commend Mr. Besen's actions in considering young LGBT people growing up in these churches. And let's hope the day comes soon when "God's people" don't turn a blind eye toward parents rejecting and disowning sons and daughters like Ben Alley's parents did.

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08:44 AM on 06/15/2011
The Mormons wouldn't allow blacks to be actual members of their church until around 1980, and this was only after some embarassing publicity. They lie and claims that they allowed blacks membership before, but they would merely allow them to tith, not actually participate.

BYU will kick out students found to be gay, and the church will tell parents to throw them out because they are no longer their children and are evil inside.

So some of these churches are ALWAYS behind the curve when it comes to bigotry and civil rights. Hopefully the SBC and the Mormons don't wait as long as they did to acknowledge racial civil rights.
isadora
Leftie, educator, labor activist, Unitarian Univer
09:34 AM on 06/15/2011
The church also has "religious training" for gays which consists of telling them how perverse and vile they are and that they don't deserve to live. Some of their "undesirable" members then attempt suicide and some of them complete the act. This was documented in "The Nation." The film "The Mormon Proposition" documents the church's preachments that violence is the answer against gays and lesbians. One of Matthew Shepherd's killers was a Mormon and told the police that he was doing what the church had taught him to do. the embarrassed church excommunicated him. I am a recovering Southern Baptist. I'm trying to resolve which group is worse. Note that both discriminate against women-the hallmark of a prejudice driven "faith."
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avg american
It's about jobs, jobs, jobs...
07:41 AM on 06/15/2011
Christians and Southern Baptists in particular have no crediblility because of the likes of Westborogh baptist church.
Kinda like the taliban to muslims.

Save that 10% tithe folks, you are going to need it in this economy.
isadora
Leftie, educator, labor activist, Unitarian Univer
09:36 AM on 06/15/2011
Don't forget the eventually convicted KKK killer (the guy who shot the three unarmed civil rights workers to death in Mississippi). The original jury would not convict him because he was an ordained minister.
06:20 AM on 06/15/2011
LGBT should just start their own church and they can get married and dictate their own religion. They should stop trying to change morality to suit themselves. If they don't like what's they are preaching, then don't go. What's next, telling people it's okay to fornicate. If your are religious, we're all sinners. It's just that most people don't brag about it or define themselves by it.
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Atwill
Proud Father of a gay son.
07:25 AM on 06/15/2011
so is being gay all and only about fornication?
isadora
Leftie, educator, labor activist, Unitarian Univer
09:40 AM on 06/15/2011
Same old simplistic garbage passing as reasoning. Please note the TV preachers who do their own form of "boasting" about their sins while publicly confessing (if it's in the religious context it's acceptable to go on and on about it) them. Later these guys pop back onto TV where they can make fantastic money after reforming. Jim Baker comes to mind. It's only "bragging about your sins" when it's someone they want to condemn.
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leftparadise
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08:11 AM on 06/15/2011
they do, its called the Metrolpolitan Church, I've been there with my gay friends. they do a beautiful service and have an amazing sense of community. However, I can understand how people raised as SBC might want to stay within that tradition. And if you're going to go on about fornication and doing things against the bible, maybe you ought to concentrate on divorce, which is loudly and frequently condemned in the bible.
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talkstocoyotes
08:29 AM on 06/15/2011
And there are other churches whose clergy are pro-marriage equality; so much for civil rights opponents' supposed concern for religious freedom.