Delegate Math: Statistics Of The Week: Clinton is Winning

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Posted May 15, 2008 | 07:32 AM (EST)



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Read the following linked pages carefully, as you might wrongly presume their greater meaning:

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...and:

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Now me:

The DNC has socially engineered delegate values to the point where those delegates no longer have any representational meaning.

Go ahead and forget who may or may not have the Popular Vote lead if you must, and instead look at who would be winning if each delegate represented a proportional number of human beings. (And, yes, this takes into account the various permutations for the FL/MI debacle. The math is still clear.)

I thought the days of people being worth 3/5ths a human being were over. I guess if you're an Ohioan, however, you're worth less than an Idahoan.

Yet one more "opportunity" being mined for all it's worth by... him.

 
 

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- SeanOcali See Profile I'm a Fan of SeanOcali permalink

Cry me a river. Campaigns are run in order to win based on the rules of the contest.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:48 PM on 05/16/2008
- jeg See Profile I'm a Fan of jeg permalink

What constitutes "the will of the people"? My street? District? County? State? My county went overwhelmingly for Barack Obama, so any superdelegates from here should support him right? Oh wait. That district extends into another county, that went for Hillary Clinton. My state went for Hillary Clinton too, but that means my opinion (and my county's) doesn't count. Of course, I'm in Florida, so it was meaningless anyway.

At the end of the day, the superdelegates should vote for who's best for the party. In most cases, that means going along with the delegate count, the popular vote, number of contests won, ability to raise money, ability to help down-ballot candidates, ability to, you know... WIN IN NOVEMBER.

Overturning the popular vote / delegate count is going to alienate a large percentage of the Democratic party, and as a result, should really only be done as a last resort.

Personally, I think they need to have 4 or 5 small primaries (determined by lottery at previous convention), one for each region of the US, then follow it up with 4 or 5 regional primaries one month apart. For delegates, clean up the selection process (some standardization would be nice, even though it would eliminate people like James Berman) and reduce the superdelegates to elected governors, national legislators and DNC committee members.

But that's just me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 AM on 05/16/2008
- nestici See Profile I'm a Fan of nestici permalink

Helllooooo

MI and FL were disqualified before they voted (even according to Hillary and her surrogates at the time)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2xHRqi8nsvI

They only count now, because she won (in one case, because Obama wasn't even on the ballot)

How many times do you guys have to hear this before you get it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 PM on 05/15/2008
- TruthBeHeard See Profile I'm a Fan of TruthBeHeard permalink

Wow! Talk about manipulating the math!

My state, Colorado, went for Obama about 2 to 1 with extraordinary turnout. But we don't count because we are a caucus state... right?

You are sounding really desperate!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:08 PM on 05/15/2008
- BlackDemfromNH See Profile I'm a Fan of BlackDemfromNH permalink

So now we live in the world of "what if"s? Come on, gimme a break. Trying to make the argument for Hillary Clinton by using such ridiculous parameters as the popular votes of Congressional districts, it only shows the extreme desperation of a dying campaign. Really.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 PM on 05/15/2008
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