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William Astore

William Astore

Posted: August 3, 2010 09:18 AM

Like many colleges today, my institution has a program to introduce new students to higher education. What's surprising, perhaps, is how little we take for granted with respect to student maturity and preparation. We don't expect they'll know how to take notes (or even that they're aware they should take notes). We remind them how to behave in a classroom setting (texting, cell phone calls, and similar disruptions are proscribed). Even before they meet obstacles to learning, we alert them to counseling services that are standing by to help, as well as tutoring centers to aid with study and writing skills.

Given rising tuition costs, perhaps students deserve (or, at least they've come to expect) all these helping hands. But I wonder if a hand-holding approach to education is ultimately stunting rather than aiding them. Is all this coaching -- all these support networks -- truly helping students to mature and become responsible, self-motivating adults?

We can shed some light on this by contrasting a student-centered, help-is-on-its-way approach in college to what is expected of young enlistees in the military. The differences are, in a word, striking. After a few months of training (as opposed to years of education), we send eighteen- and nineteen-year-old enlistees overseas and task them with negotiating bewilderingly complex "human terrain" in hostile places like Iraq and Afghanistan. As they operate high-tech equipment worth millions, these "strategic privates" are entrusted to make near-instantaneous, life-or-death decisions under pressure.

Could the contrast be any starker? As we lend helping hands to immature or ill-prepared college students in the most benign of settings, we challenge young troops to make deadly choices in the harshest and most confusing of settings. As we're at pains to remind students to pay attention, to take notes, even to show up for class, we think little about deploying young troops thousands of miles from home to the world's deadliest hotspots, expecting them to behave with discretion, maturity, and valor.

A contrast this stark sets me to thinking. I wonder, for example, how many young adults join the military precisely because they'll be entrusted with responsibility (and firepower) without Mommy, Daddy, and our "Nanny State" hovering over them. Critics may see the military as authoritarian and limiting, yet young recruits may see it as liberating: as building self-reliance and resiliency in a setting free from helicopter parents, feel-good counselors, and similar "mean well" interceders.

Another stark dichotomy is the resources we devote to fostering respect for diversity among new college students versus those devoted to new troops in the same age group. Even as we strive for greater multi-cultural sensitivity and tolerance among students, we simply deploy new enlistees to countries with dramatically different cultures, expecting them to acquire cultural sensitivity on the fly in a process akin to osmosis, if not trial-by-fire. The result is predictable: Young troops, as made evident in this account by Ann Jones, are often oblivious to inappropriate, often counterproductive, behavior.

The paradox is clear: We coddle young college students even as we throw young troops into the breech. To students, we explain difficult concepts in the most basic of English, even as our troops confront the most complex of situations while wrestling with Pashto or Dari. We field a legion of "interpreters" to help students to succeed, yet we still lack language and cultural interpreters to help troops to succeed.

In hand-holding our college students and overloading our troops, we're compromising our educational efforts as well as our military ones.

And whether in school or in war, the result could very well be a failing grade.

Professor Astore currently teaches History at the Pennsylvania College of Technology in Williamsport, PA. He writes regularly for TomDispatch.com and can be reached at wjastore@gmail.com.

 
 
 
 
 
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07:01 PM on 08/04/2010
Where to begin...

Support services at colleges hurt students? Maybe you missed the military's record suicide rate that is largely blamed on not having enough of a safety net. Getting a college education is designed to make you fluent in a particular academic discipline. Being an infantryman is not at all academic and even though you are making life or death decisions, you are following orders. Lifeguards make important decisions to, but it doesn't require a lot of intellectual heft. Your last point on diversity in the military is ridiculous; the military is not an inclusive body, and in these diverse countries that you are sent to, you blow the natives to smithereens. Yeah, that's really tolerant.
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William Astore
10:21 PM on 08/04/2010
College support services are often useful, unless a student becomes too dependent on them. And fighting a war is not about blowing as many "natives" as possible "to smithereens." Young enlistees today are expected to be diplomats, police, helpers, engineers, aid providers, as well as trigger-pullers. And that's my point: We expect too much of our young troops, and we don't provide them with enough support networks, hence the rising suicide rate.
11:02 PM on 08/04/2010
A student who utilizes counseling services to the point of dependency are obviously in need of them. As a professor, you might not understand what these programs do, but I can assure you that they are not turning students into hopeless therapeutic patients. As for soldiers acting as diplomats, I guess you haven't seen the Wikileaks video. While a lot of our soldiers are definitely a positive influence in the countries that they are occupying, the military is designed for fighting, and that doesn't exactly endear them to the "diverse" locales that they are inhabiting.
11:02 PM on 08/04/2010
Oops, I meant "is obviously..."
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04:27 AM on 08/05/2010
Here's a thought -- blowing natives to smithereens is a strategy doomed to failure, because there will always be more natives than bullets, unless your military is interested in carrying out acts of genocide, and I am pretty sure that isn't what you are advocating is it?
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04:56 PM on 08/04/2010
There are so many assumptions and so many facts ignored in this insulting piece that I do not even know where to begin to comment. We need to quit glorifying war - especially wars of choice - and we need to quit using our educational system to churn out worker-drones for the corporatocracy and instead go back to the liberal-education ideal where students were taught to question and to think critically. Neither of those is likely to happen anytime soon. I guess we will have to wait for the ultimate collapse of the current civilization and the birth of another that will hopefully do a better job of promoting and maintaining humanitarian values. But none of us will be around for the far-off day.
12:29 PM on 08/04/2010
I agree with the assessment of the symptom but again it is the short view of a larger problem. Instructing students how to behave in a classroom setting and imparting the most basics of study skills is a reflection on our public education system. Even those advanced students encouraged to participate in the top of their graduating high school class, with the trappings of multiple SAT attempts, AP classes, college resume building extracurricular activities, are not prepared to do more critical thinking than necessary to deconstruct a multiple choice test or produce a “college prep” style essay. The dramatic shifts in expectations require a reorientation, and there is still no initial education in helping guide them toward realistic choices about the debt they are taking on.

Comparing this system with the military belies the intuition that they are both symptoms of the same root cause. Undervalued, with no greater expectation on their leadership than a firearm and map in return for meeting basic human needs, points to their inability to recognize and address these problems with leaders. The troops being our eyes inside the military, but not educated on the most basic American freedoms to challenge the authority of elected officials. What surprise should it be when we are still talking about the disparity between the very real classes we don’t like to admit to instead of pointing to the origin where the value of education bestowed is in direct proportion to what your expected contribution will be.
12:11 PM on 08/04/2010
I'd join the military if we weren't at war for something I don't support -- the main reason for joining would be to pay to down the debt from being "coddled" as a graduate student. I'd much rather have 4-months training and then be thrown into the workforce, but the education system doesn't allow that.

Instead I'm required to get an accredited degree that takes three and half years, then practice for a year before sitting for licensing exams. Get a clue William.
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William Astore
04:02 PM on 08/04/2010
My article talks about college freshmen (teenagers), not about graduate students in demanding programs. I wish you the best of luck with your program and with your exams.
07:02 PM on 08/04/2010
Yeah, because undergraduate programs aren't ever demanding. Did you even go to college?
02:41 AM on 08/07/2010
You are used to working with military types, so naturally you are going to be able to respect, understand, and motivate them easier . The kids that are in college are adept at playing school, they have been training for 12 years. They are also away from home and are as frightened as they feel empowered and are generally overwhelmed. Some need more help than others and seek it, while others that ought to have sought help, ignore it. I don't know what the attrition rate is at your school, but at our local state school it's about 50%. If you are of Milton Friedman's state of mind, the lost ones are freed to persue their greater gifts--if you are not full of..., these are a lot of lost dreams and wealth. To leave these failures on the shoulders of the students or the highschools is giving the universities a considerable pass in this matter. Much like the military, instead of blaming individual culprits, there is serious stuctural defects that leads to these dismal results--And throwing kids, yes kids, into a uniform with a gun a couple of weeks after prom and on to any field of battle is beyond the pale--draft 40 year old men and women (the older the better) with no deferments and high rotations so everyone can get shot at while putting the price at the pump in advance, and the probability of war will go down.
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Send the kids off to die, bleed their country dry.
11:39 AM on 08/04/2010
just end the war. period. they were started based on lies.

who will be the last to die for these lies and the liars who profit from them?

smedley butler was right. "WAR IS A RACKET"
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GrammieJ
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10:16 AM on 08/04/2010
Excellent article! I understand completely what you have written in this article from several life experiences of my own. Back in my day (mid '60s) when I entered college it was on my own skills, no helping hands guiding me along the college path. I did get my degree and have since then recieved my Masters (40 yrs after college degree I might add). I am proud of my accomplishments both as a traditional student and as an adult returning to school.
This fall I will teach at a local private college. I just got two more classes in developmental reading and developmental writing. Seems that they had to add these classes as more incoming freshman did not score high enough on entrance test to be placed in "college level" classes. So, I will try and upgrade the skills of these students to help them get ready for college level classes,,,,,,,,wow!!
It will be interesting to see the level of committment from these students. I am ready and armed with tools to motivate them, teach them and help them up their skills, will they do it? It is after all, up to the students, not me, right?
I am hoping that you , Mr Astore, would like to know what happens in my classes this fall. I would be happy to share more with you as the semester goes along.
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William Astore
04:17 PM on 08/04/2010
I'd love to hear about your experiences. I think a lot of Americans would be surprised today at the amount of remedial math and English that's taught in college. Algebra that I learned in the 8th grade is now being taught in college. Some of my students think that a college-level essay is one paragraph of loosely connected sentences.

Certainly, one reason we've lowered expectations for today's college freshmen is that they're less well prepared. It's also true that they're less well disciplined, perhaps in part because so many technologies distract them. And it's also true that some schools have stressed building self-esteem over self-discipline. Students feel good about themselves, but their skills are inadequate, and they lack the dedication and attention span to focus and improve them.

Again, this is true only of some students. Many students are well prepared and ready to learn, and some of those who are behind do work very hard to catch up. As a teacher, there's no better feeling than to help hard-working students to improve and succeed. Good luck!
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GrammieJ
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08:57 PM on 08/04/2010
Thank you for your reply and especially the last two words you sent "Good luck!".
I am excited for the opportunity to work at the college. I spent the last 20 years teaching for the local school system and eventually the community college. I taught the GED program. Although my students this semester will be (most of them) high school grads, they will still have a lot of the same needs as those that study for the GED. It is a matter of what I like to call "an awakening of skills" for the students. I had many adults that came to our GED program that only needed that nudge of confidence and a little "awakening" before they took their test.
I am going to approach my college freshmen students in the development classes as I approached my former students. I believe as you stated that along with self-seteem, students need to learn self-discipline to enable them the skills to tackle the hard tasks of life!
If I may, I would love to send you some of my experiences, probably through e-mail if ok with you!!
Thanks again! Oh and I am a proud mom of a Lt in the US Army, who is currently deployed to Iraq.
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09:34 AM on 08/04/2010
"After a few months of training (as opposed to years of education), we send eighteen- and nineteen-year-old enlistees overseas and task them with negotiating bewilderingly complex "human terrain" in hostile places like Iraq and Afghanistan. As they operate high-tech equipment worth millions, these "strategic privates" are entrusted to make near-instantaneous, life-or-death decisions under pressure."
A bit of an overstatement. Most, after minimal training are grunts and canon fodder doing what they are told after having been beaten down and brainwashed. Survival of the fittest literally determines the rest. Yes, there are learning opportunities and advancement for the motivated, but they would not likely have needed coddling in college.
01:59 PM on 08/04/2010
I must disagree. As a 22-year military veteran, college graduate and employee at a university, the writer is correct. Recruits are not brainwashed in training, and they are expected to think and understand the consequences of the decisions they are asked to make. College students are coddled, for the most part.
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09:42 PM on 08/04/2010
"coddled"

Interesting put down.
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wayoutleft
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07:44 AM on 08/04/2010
Where to even start...
College students are not SUPPORTED by the government and the taxpayers like the military. You want to talk about support? The military is fed, clothed, trained, housed and PAID by taxpayers. College students work menially usually and struggle with debt to learn to do things like educate other people, design structures, research, and heal the sick. And they're constantly taking c**p from ignoramuses! I am SICK of the contempt of the ignorant masses for academic students.
Try the MCAT or the LSAT or a Graduate Record Exam in physics and see if your hand gets held!
By the time you've begun to prepare to get into college, get in, get through, and certify professionally, you've probably got more than ten years in the game- if you want to talk commitment. What's the army? four years of no material worries and no independent decisions?
Then all the breaks in civilian life for veterans- even veterans of places like the public relations office at fort benjamin harrison, indiana- a by FAR more typical military experience than combat... But veterans have "served". Not many have served like the people who educate your kids and deliver your babies are serving, or those who care for our ill and elderly or minister to the afflicted spirits. Most of them serve with no respect in proportion to the peace they bring into our lives.
Don't start slagging college students. I just worked too hard...
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William Astore
09:16 AM on 08/04/2010
No one is saying college isn't hard. And law school and medical school are especially challenging. The point of my article is expectations: We expect more (too much, I'd say) of 18-year-old recruits; we send them to Afghanistan and expect them to cope with foreign cultures, foreign languages, in a hostile atmosphere of great complexity. At the same time, expectations for 18-year-old college students are set considerably lower, and support networks are considerably more robust.

If you accept this diagnosis, the prognosis may be this: By overloading our troops, we're compromising our efforts in places like Afghanistan. And by lowering our expectations for new college students, we're setting the stage for underperforming professional classes.
10:05 AM on 08/04/2010
Soldiers have been recruited and hired for a job; they are employees of the military. In contrast, students are paying for a service; they are customers of a university. The difference in experience and expectations is to be expected.

Despite this, at my university we had very few helping hands. During our orientation, the Dean, while admitting it was something of a cliche, did the whole "look to your left, look to your right, one of the people you see won't graduate" schtick. At Georgia Tech only ~60% of incoming freshman can expect to graduate. My first semester's physics course had a 50% fail rate. While it doesn't compare to combat (I expect few things do), college was no walk in the park.
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10:20 AM on 08/04/2010
One more comment from me about comparing college students with military training. I totally agree that the military is given a task, after a small degree of training, to defend our country till death. That is one thing the average college student does not do, most of them drink and party!

I am also the proud mom of a LT in the Army who is currently deployed to Iraq. This is her third deployment. She is a college grad so she entered her service career when she was 22, not the typical 18 year old.
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04:37 AM on 08/05/2010
Do you think college students have it anywhere as hard as military recruits? Really?
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07:09 AM on 08/06/2010
it's harder to shape the college opportunity into a profession than it is to serve a military commitment, for the most part.
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07:16 AM on 08/04/2010
Nullify all MIC contracts for one year, take that money and pour it into our colleges and schools, and waive tuition for all US citizens for the next 20 years.
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krechsd
07:13 AM on 08/04/2010
First of all you are posing a supposed problem without suggesting any solutions. Secondly, students pay to go to college, usually for years after they graduate, whereas, soldiers get pay and other benefits to do what they voluntarily sign up for.
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satanlite
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07:19 AM on 08/04/2010
If an individual is suffering financially and sees the military as the only option to support themeselves and their family, that is not what I call a "voluntary sign up". It's a form of coercian brought to us by economic terrorists in both political parties, but primarily the criminal Republican party.
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07:49 AM on 08/04/2010
Point well taken. It is why the military is made up mostly of poor whites and minorities. What's the solution?
07:08 PM on 08/04/2010
How is it any different than a poor person signing up to stock shelves at 1 in the morning. Is that coercive too? Not everyone has the luxury of getting their dream job, and the choice to join the military is just that... a choice.
04:01 AM on 08/04/2010
What coddled students? Most of the young people in my area who are going to college are working part time, most at minimum wage. A dying job market awaits them, when and if they graduate.

I don't think that I would like to be in one of Colonel Astore's classes; he disrespects the very students who are responsible for him having his job, which pays well over $7.25 per hour.

The professor sounds like Reagan in the sixties,
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William Astore
08:59 AM on 08/04/2010
I take your point. But my article focuses on expectations for new college students. We don't expect them to know how to study; we don't expect they'll take notes; we don't expect they'll know how to behave in class; we don't expect they'll even know that they have to attend class. We've also created a support network of counselors, tutors, and other helpers to keep them in college. This is often a good thing, but not always.

I have many great students; I have many students who are working multiple jobs; I have nothing but respect for them. My article was more about trends that I see, and one trend is making the student our customer, with the attitude that the customer is always right, and the professor is only a provider of a service to the customer, and that he/she needs to tailor the product to the needs and abilities of the customer. Such an approach leads to coddling. And if you have to remind the "customer" to show up for class, not to disrupt class with text messaging, cell phone calls, and similar behavior, those reminders create an atmosphere of a high-school-like detention hall. It's a combination of coddling and cajoling.
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01:41 PM on 08/04/2010
Why should you expect them to be able to take notes or know how to study effectively? Have you visited a public high school lately?
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02:10 PM on 08/04/2010
Have you paid attention to how much work colleges have to put into in general education classes? I don't think you have based on your article. Most colleges, by the admission of the professors themselves, have to completely re-teach what high school was supposed to cover but doesn't thanks to lack of funding, time, and resources.
11:43 PM on 08/03/2010
We should abolish the military and use the savings to fund free college education for all Americans.
thebigbike
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10:49 PM on 08/03/2010
I think this blog has as its theme, a polite dancing around the issues of economic disparity in the country. It continues to be recruits whose options are more limited ( is that a nice way to say on the poor side of town?) who are shoved out there wiuth insufficent training and support to accomplish amazingly challenging tasks - and without the pay grades the civilan contractors start with. College students, in large part view themselves as hav \ing more options, and yet the school systems from primary through college become less and less known for rigorous grading, especially in the non-scientific fields ( is that nice way to say gafe inflation? like ugandan currency?)

But if I read you right Sir, you are reminding us that the disparity of the conscription years of the 60's and 70' still exists, and may be even worse and that for the sake of our national goals, we need to toughen up on the colleges and schools and give some more training and education to the troops...
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William Astore
09:34 AM on 08/04/2010
Yes, you read me right. If we as a country were really serious about "winning" in Iraq and Afghanistan, if these truly were our highest priorities for national security, shouldn't we be sending (via a draft) our very best men and women overseas? And I don't mean "best" purely in terms of an IQ test or SAT scores. If we're trying to win hearts and minds overseas, we need a military of Green Berets: smart, tough, educated and trained in multiple languages (Arabic, Pashto, Dari, etc.), culturally astute.

Nobody has suggested we lack firepower overseas. What we lack is brainpower, savvy, cultural awareness. The military is trying to improvise by hiring contractors and even civilian professors in "human terrain teams," but it's a stopgap measure, and possibly a case of too little, too late.

Especially with respect to action in the field, higher education and our military remain almost completely separate worlds, to include the level of expectations we assign to our respective new "recruits."
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11:47 AM on 08/04/2010
Reinstate a draft, and our participation in the Iraqi and Af-Pak conflicts will be over in about 5 minutes.
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RyanCSmith
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02:10 PM on 08/04/2010
So to you winning the war in Afghanistan and Iraq is more important than ensuring the future of our country through funding our schools and universities to established the next generation of professionals to run the country?
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09:47 PM on 08/03/2010
People shouldn't participate in many of the wars this country gets involved in. I see many of them as not legitimate - like the one going on in Afghanistan as we speak.
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07:55 PM on 08/03/2010
I take your point Mr. Astore, but since we're fighting wars of choice the question we should be asking is why are we putting these terribly young people in the position of having to make those life or death decisions? Yes, we coddle our kids way too much, but better to have them immature and alive than responsible and dead. Your anger should be directed at Washington and the industrial/military complex that has decided a permanent war machine is worth several thousand "expendable" soldiers.
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02:39 AM on 08/04/2010
With respect, you are not addressing the basic problem.
We do not teach our young children to learn foreign languages nor basic customs.
War happens.
Americans are the biggest purveyors of war.
I am one of them. I serve. I am a Reservist, but constantly subject to call, and I am fluent in other languages and cultures.
It doesn't have to about 'dead', because the more of us who are multi-faceted, the more of us to deal with at the right moment, at the right time.
This isn't about throwing your kids into danger.
It's about preventing danger by knowing in advance the people!
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01:09 PM on 08/04/2010
I think I have. The "basic problem" is we use military might instead of diplomacy and invent reasons to use force to obtain natural resources. What danger are we preventing? The occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan has done nothing to curb terrorists (the smoke and mirrors excuse for being there) and in fact has given them more reasons to go after us. We are not winning the hearts and minds of people in those lands; in fact, the Afghanis have recently declared they prefer the Taliban to us! http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=99695§ionid=351020403