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More U.S. Folly in Afghanistan

Posted: 07/07/2012 3:47 pm

Two New York Times stories this week capture the persistence of U.S. folly in Afghanistan. The first highlights the persistence of corruption in Afghanistan and our country's key role in funding it. The second showcases the enormous expense of providing U.S. air power as a "force multiplier" to prevent the Taliban and other anti-coalition forces from prevailing. The subtext of both articles is that without massive funding and aid from the United States, and without profligate expenditure of money and munitions by American air assets, the Afghan government of Hamid Karzai would almost certainly collapse.

Haven't we seen this before? Think Vietnam in the late 1960s and early 1970s. The United States spent enormous sums of money, and used air power in even more profligate ways, to prop up the corrupt and ultimately illegitimate government of South Vietnam. Prodigious expenditures of money fed the corruption of Vietnamese officials while profligate expenditure of munitions kept the North Vietnamese enemy from prevailing (as in our ability to thwart the North Vietnamese Army's Spring Offensive of 1972), even as a suspect South Vietnamese army (ARVN) became dependent on that same U.S. air power.

When the United States finally tired of the corruption and waste of Vietnam, we pulled out our props, only to witness the unviability of our client state without massive U.S. aid.

What happens when we finally tire of Afghanistan? Though we won't witness a massive conventional military assault that ended in the chaos of Saigon in 1975, it is likely that the corrupt government of Karzai and the suspect Afghan National Army will also collapse, sooner rather than later.

Just as in Vietnam, in Afghanistan we are not winning the war, because these were and are not our wars to win. We were and are only preventing one side from losing, a side that is seemingly sympathetic to America precisely because it feeds off our largesse.

So in spite of today's pledge of special ally status for the Karzai government, the United States will almost certainly withdraw most of our props to that government. The result? Afghanistan could destabilize and devolve into civil war.

Doubtless we'll continue to ignore lessons from Vietnam, so we'll double-down on our folly by yet again playing the blame game. We'll ask,"Who lost Afghanistan," forgetting that from the beginning it was never ours to win. We'll hear about how we should have showed more fortitude, how our homefront should have been tougher, how a weak-kneed leader (and weaker NATO allies) conspired to snatch political defeat from the jaws of military victory.

And if this grim prediction proves correct, the wrong lessons we draw will only lead to new U.S. folly in the future.

Astore writes regularly for TomDispatch.com and can be reached at wjastore@gmail.com.

 
 
 
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Two New York Times stories this week capture the persistence of U.S. folly in Afghanistan. The first highlights the persistence of corruption in Afghanistan and our country's key role in funding it. ...
Two New York Times stories this week capture the persistence of U.S. folly in Afghanistan. The first highlights the persistence of corruption in Afghanistan and our country's key role in funding it. ...
 
 
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Steelsil
Warren/Grayson 2016! Yes We Can!
04:18 PM on 07/09/2012
Remember the photo of the last US helicopter to leave Vietnam, with people fighting to get on it?
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deepintheheartoftejas
Middle o/t Road = Yellow stripes & dead armadillos
11:34 PM on 07/10/2012
That won't happen this time. Just like with Iraq, US immigration has almost completely barred all but the most privileged, high-placed persons from obtaining any kind of visa to the US, out of fear that they'll turn out terrorists. They'll have no place to turn when we finally abandon them.

It's pretty unfair. Vietnamese immigrants have contributed enormously to the US in the past 40 years. More ended up in Texas than in any other state, and you'll find they're some of the most patriotic Americans around. Plus, there's no major city in Texas where you can't find a good bowl of pho.
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verflixed
It will come to pass
02:10 PM on 07/09/2012
We will be in Afghanistan for a long time for several reasons. One of course is the pipeline that is being build and secondly the U.S. has an interest in keeping the region unstable so they can build their influence and domination of the area. Sure combat troops will eventually depart but the U.S. will be there to stay. Asia and the Middle East are geopolitically important for the ailing U.S.. The U.S. is being left behind and can only prolong the inevitable thru Military Might.
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marignymitch
E pluribus unum percent
01:01 PM on 07/09/2012
The plan this time is to keep the props in place permanently, Mr Astore. MIC demands it.
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TheMediaRanger
Pull over, buddy, let's see your poetic license
01:29 PM on 07/19/2012
Indeed. And you don't even need traditional soldiers or ordnance to meet that demand.
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cyberfringe
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.
11:32 AM on 07/09/2012
How about we let the Chinese have a turn wasting trillions of dollars in Afghanistan? They won't have any better luck "modernizing" it than the Russians or the "Coalition". They might even lock it down better because they won't feel as much angst about the use of force. When we have a 45 minute thunderstorm knocking out the power in the capital of the US I cannot believe we are going to spend another dime on infrastructure in Afghanistan. Where are the priorities? Get real!
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Lucho13
10:31 AM on 07/09/2012
The day the armed forces refuse to march out to any new war , and with our national support ,we will stop these Corporation good for their business wars . That action would stop their partner in crime , the Pentagon Military Defense Complex Inc. !

(Lucho13 :army veteran 1972-74).
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TheMediaRanger
Pull over, buddy, let's see your poetic license
01:31 PM on 07/19/2012
In other words, Don't follow the money. What a concept!
10:23 AM on 07/09/2012
Our policy in Afghanistan follows the all too familiar cold war model of the '60s. We prop up a failing government and even fight wars to further our ends only to see it unravel after we have spent our national treasure and killed or maimed many of our citizens--and theirs. Will we never learn?
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realitytrumpsbull
Two 'alves of coconut!
10:11 AM on 07/09/2012
Maybe it's time to stop the nation-building game, and the attendant taxpayer abuse, and contitionally assist other countries, in structured fashion, on a temporary basis, AFTER they request it. Expeditionary unilateralism against the wishes of the Occupied, and the voters in this country, gives government a bad name and reputation, and further decreases the level of trust the public has not only in the military but in the larger institution of government when it becomes apparent that there's some sort of disconnect between the doctrinal philosophies espoused at various levels of government and the will of the People, who are basically given an opinion when it's deemed suitable for them to have one, or such opinion fabricated out of thin air or the contents of the latest edition of the propaganda manual. This war-stuff sure is a boon for defense contractors, investors, and political hangers-on in Washington, but this last decade has seen us easily double our national debt to foreign countries, flush a good chunk of national credibility straight down the toilet, and other indicators that even at this late date, 37 years past the official end of Vietnam, that politicians et. al. still don't 'get it'. War is a racket.
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10:05 AM on 07/09/2012
If only someone running for president had warned us years ago...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrHm4phj5RQ
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maildarter
10:05 AM on 07/09/2012
Afghanistan is not Vietnam. The Taliban and other terrorists, the very people who started this war will resume the killing back on US soil. No matter the number of years, we must keep killing Taliban.
12:08 PM on 07/09/2012
Al Qaeda was not the Taliban and the Taliban was not Al Qaeda. The Taliban can be kept in line without occupying a Country. And terrorists can be hunted down without Occupying a Country.
Occupying a foreign country does not improve the safety or freedom of the American people.
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deepintheheartoftejas
Middle o/t Road = Yellow stripes & dead armadillos
11:37 PM on 07/10/2012
You seem to be confusing the Taliban with our best friends, the Saudis. None of the 9/11 hijackers were Afghani.
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Peter Van Buren
Author, We Meant Well and the People on the Bus: A
09:58 AM on 07/09/2012
And yet, as Hillary strong-armed money in Tokyo, there were more signs in Afghanistan of just how cynical her actions are.

The Washington Post reports a series of attacks across Afghanistan. Six American service members lost their lives when a roadside bomb hit their vehicle in Maidan Wardak province, which lies just west of Kabul. On the same day, 23 Afghan civilians were killed by multiple blasts in Arghistan district of southern Kandahar. In another attack, five Afghan police were killed by remote-control bomb in Bamian province, regarded as “the most secure part of Afghanistan.”

Hillary, take note of Astore’s point: we destabilize Afghanistan with enormous sums of money and militarized “solutions” to everything.

Peter Van Buren
wemeantwell.com
09:50 AM on 07/09/2012
Let us not forget the REAL reason why we ever got involved in the first place. Be sure to read page 30.
http://commdocs.house.gov/committees/intlrel/hfa48119.000/hfa48119_0f.htm
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checkmoot
We have met the enemy and he is us.
09:38 AM on 07/09/2012
The Vietnamese seem to be doing very well since we stopped dropping bombs on them, of course they had a stable and popular government already in place when we left. That is not the case in Afghanistan, nor was it in Iraq.
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rae112754
03:30 PM on 07/09/2012
In case you forgot. That popular and stable government that South Vietnam had, when we pulled out, got over run, right after we left.
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Steelsil
Warren/Grayson 2016! Yes We Can!
04:20 PM on 07/09/2012
People who live there tell me it's extremely corrupt.
05:13 PM on 07/09/2012
You mean America, right?
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checkmoot
We have met the enemy and he is us.
05:51 PM on 07/09/2012
You mean their politicians take bribes from lobbyists ? I'm shocked !!!!
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mrclark
I search for the America I believed in as a boy.
09:38 AM on 07/09/2012
America needs to quit trying to re-build Afghanistan. Those who attacked the World Trade Center are gone, and our original goal was accomplished. Our desire to fix Afghanistan is based on an American arrogance that our military can do anything combined with a military industrial complex who profit from these adventures. In the America of today we need to spend this money in the United States to re-build our country, but due to the power wielded by special interests average Americans have very little say in how our country spends its money. Karzai's government will fail as soon as we quit propping it up because it does not represent average Afghanistan’s but instead represents an American idea of how Afghanistan should evolve as a country. The question we as American's should ask is how long will it take for average Americans to realize that our government is de-legitimatizing itself as well by these type of actions that are basically unaccountable to the American people.
09:34 AM on 07/09/2012
Our policy in Afghanistan follows the all too familiar cold war model of the '60s. We prop up a failing government and even fight wars to further our ends only to see it unravel after we have spent our national treasure and killed or maimed many of our citizens--and theirs. Will we never learn?
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fredrdr
Let us dare to read, think, speak and write.
10:32 AM on 07/09/2012
No because Mr Romney is talking about conflict with Iran, NK and China.
09:10 AM on 07/09/2012
Hey USA, you do know what your real allies in Britain, Australia etc feel like when you lump Afghanistan in with us? You might as well include Pakistan in that category then. Naivety is cute in a child, but plain annoying in an adult. Grow up America, stop being so childish and naive in your dealings with other peoples.